Dacic tours Serbian church in NYC destroyed in Easter fire

We're going to waste more of our scarce resources on a church?!

And here I was, thinking we're a secular state.

I guess we should buy a new sports car for each of the priests as well...

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?
(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?

VOJVODINA : I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist.
SOUNDS AS IF ALBANIAN IS A RELIGION.
(rote, 16 May 2016 23:33)

The term “The religion of Albanians is Albanism” – was part of a beautiful poem written by an Albanian patriot, Pashko Vasa around 1800.
I’m not as good in English but it is ~ like this:

“Wake up Albanians, from the sleep , wake up
And all like brothers the “besa” tight
And don’t see the Churches and Mosques
The religion of Albanians is Albania”

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

@ William UK

vojvodina is a troll.not worth your time.

You Serbs are so ridiculous, it's beyond comical. Are there only Albanians and Serbs in this planet, or you just can't swallow the fact that not everyone buys into your primitive propaganda and hate speech?

I remember when this church was burned, some comentators here were saying that Albanians must've done it. El Nino could be tomorrow in the news and you'd probably say that El Nino is Albanian. You people are either obsessed or terrified of Albanians so much, that you can't help it but bring Albanians in every discussion. It's the "Backson" nightmare you're all been having: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidzytvfSyQ

And then you complain why Albanians come here and respond to your slander. Serbs don't even register in Albanian websites, yet there isn't a single day that goes by, that "the Albanian" isn't featured prominiently in the Serbian websites. NATO has a meeting in Tirana - out of a thousands of meetings it has every year everywhere - Serbian sites will rush to report it. Kosova plans to turn KSF into KAF, Serbs almost have a collective heart attack.

I'll tell you why this Church burned down. Because "holy fire" was handled by unholy people. Your entire Church organization is unholy and dirty from the blood of the innocents it instigated to be spelt. When your Church repents and accepts its guilt in promoting and spreading hate, murder and genocide, only then will your churches stop from being burned down by God.

(Ps: B92, I moderate it a "little", please post it now – Thank you!)
@ Free
Hahahah... Vielen Dank! I like you!
You know sometime I’am impressed by myself. Did I wrote that? :P
Honestly I had a really good time and one good conversation with a “rote” friends. He knew to much about Albania, it was like having a good conversation with “rote” but he was a really good and positive person who gave to me to much positive energia.
I’m not even often in this site, so I forgot that this is B92, and here you have to deal with to many “trapa”. Honestly, I don’t care to much what Serbs think – because I think they are persons who hate their own skin., imagine the rest.
But, I have nothing against Russians, as much as they never came in my country like invaders, and never killed Albanians.
I don’t agree with their politics – but the people are great, and believe me no matter what “rote” tell here Russians did not supported Serbs in Jugoslavian wars and mostly of them agree that they were guilty for Bosnian genocide and Kosovo war crimes.

Vojvodina (the Albanian), if you are involved in the Serbian diaspora, as I am (my wife is Serbian), you would realise that Serbs congregate around the churches throughout the world. It is not a waste of money to rebuild this church. It is a place where Serbians pray and unite in New York.

Besides, I doubt the Serbian government will provide funds of any significance. This is just a bit of marketing for Dacic and Vucic.

The comments are far more interesting than the article.

(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

Why are you here? You are not a Serb, furthermore this is an English site, no?
Firstly, Albania and Kosovo are secular countries. The religion is a personal issue to us.
Now, regarding to the religion not than I have nothing against the Muslim religion in Albania, as much as I date one Muslim Albanian I have nothing against. But, I don’t like the manipulated facts and I support the church which claim that those facts are not real, and I support her, as much as nobody as me and my family to declare the religion. Fact!
Regarding to the last census https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania ( Acctually, according to the 2011 census were 56.7% Muslims not 58.79 %, but anyway)
So, today regarding to this census in Albania are 56.7 % of the population Muslims – while regarding to the same census 65% of those 56.7 % are non-denominational Muslims.
I personally as too many other Albanians ask why those “non- denominational” are counted like Muslims – and according to who?
Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

Even your goats and sheep don't trust your besa anymore.
(pizza lover, 17 May 2016 19:18)

I should admit that you Serbs have a big fantasia eee.. You think all the time about goats and sheep. That’s why Serbian military and paramilitary don't let even those poor animals alone. Do you have a goat at home? Poor animal..

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?
(Vojvodina, 16 May 2016 14:22)

This church is about 130 years old so I think that it deserves to be rebuilt to its former glory regardless of who owns it.
If you are not Albanian than what are you?

NYC will do what it wants to do, not what some Serbian FM wants it to do. Mr. Dacic needs to remember he's not in Kosovo or RS and he can not claim anything Serb related in America like it's another part of Serbia. You want it rebuilt, you can pay for it.

Insurance Fraud is not "Holy"....

LK: I am really surprised the history altering Serbs didn't remove the original non-Serb plaque establishment on the church and immediately proclaim Manhattan Serb Territory ,given the very old structure....

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.

Insurance job wil come back to haunt you " wholy" people...

"Our community will insist that the full truth is established. Beside the insurance money, we will ask New York City through diplomatic channels to help rebuild, or build a new church."


The investigation has concluded while a go, and the outcome is out there. But, this church was in trouble financially, and due to neglect of priest/s and your holy fire, the insurance may not pay anything.

LK: I am really surprised the history altering Serbs didn't remove the original non-Serb plaque establishment on the church and immediately proclaim Manhattan Serb Territory ,given the very old structure....

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.

Insurance job wil come back to haunt you " wholy" people...

Burning churches and destroying or vandalizing other people's places of worship is a nasty habit for many here in the US, not just Kosovo. Notice how rarely mosques are targeted despite all the hand wringing about "Islamophobia".

@ Joni

Stop wasting your time explaining to some people that to Albanians Ethnicity is much more important that Religion. It`s like playing Beethoven to a deaf.

Do you think they hate Albanians because of their ethnicity?
They hate Croats and Muslim Bosnians even they share the same ethnicity.
Or because of their religion?
They hate Bulgarians even they share the same religion and even ethnically they are "cousins" too.

Some people just hate themselves and the only way thay can survive is to reflect this hatred on the others, the foreigners, the neighbours even their brothers or parents.

Most of Serbs are not like this, but the problem is that this kind of people in Serbia had been and still are being used by warmonger and populist politicians for their agenda. And being very noisy they falsely seem to be "the majority".

Just don`t take them seriously. It`s ridiculous to speak seriously to ridiculous people.

When you speak to a normal Serbian than you can speak seriously and you won`t be disappointed.

In the care and the good old loving hands of the brave and honorable USA, just like our Serbian Eastern Orthodox monastaries and churches in Kosovo, Bosna and Srpska Krajina!!!

How did Dacic get a visa to visit America I would like to know...

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?
(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?
(Vojvodina, 16 May 2016 14:22)

Hey Vojvodina, you can accuse me of being Serb 24/7, it will always be a welcomed compliment. May God bless you.

@ Drimadhes

I don’t even understand who is the real illiterate here actually. And how could you permit yourself to hurt my feelings, and call me semi- illiterate are you crazyyy..I’m totally illiterate. Ha.ha.ha. I wonder how could be possible that an illiterate and chatty soul judge someone else for illiteracy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFPkhx5lx_E
Well, we are talking to “besa”. What have that to do with Serbs? ‘Besa” was given to “friends” and Serbs never were our friends. So, Albanians never encroach her toward Serbs because she never was given to them. But, don’t worry I understand many Serbs here it has pass to many time or centuries since the time they used to do something honorable, all Ballkan remember are the wars.
Regarding to the priest, “u prefte ne paqe” but don’t show to us thinks without evidences – i mean that Albanians were not found guilty on that horrible crime.
And don’t act here like a saint Orthodox warrior because then.., you should see and judge even Serbs. Better check and see how many Catholic Priests were killed just because they were Albanian or refused to convert in Orthodox, or even better you should judge your priests who bless war in name of god. Ok??

I try to warn you something was going to happen to St. Sava Cathedral but no one did take my warnings seriously.

Then i told you that it was a KLA terrorist act orchestrated by United Satan Alliance, Illuminati, The Vatican and The Elders of Zion (you can`t have a proper conspiracy without the Jews, you know) as part of The Universal War against Holy Slavic Eastern Orthodox Church in America, Europe, Australia, Asia, Africa and Mars. But no one seems to be aware of it. Except for one, of course.

Why? I remember when it was still burning many did already knew who did it.

Don`t tell me you really bought that "it was the candles" crap.

But... hey isn`t it a bit hypocritical to ask Americans to pay for it? I mean you asking Satan to build The House of Holy Slavic Eastern Orthodox God?
Isn`t that a sacrilege or a desecration or whatever?

Rote : All Albanians are religiously Shqiptare!

Although Vojvodina is not.

He is a defender of the truth.

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.
(Azir, 16 May 2016 22:34)

No, that's what Albanians do. One family moves in, multiples with 18 kids, and claims it's ancient Albanian territory. You mixed the two people up, you ignorant racist.

Prizreni wrote:
Your entire Church organization is unholy and dirty from the blood of the innocents it instigated to be spelt. When your Church repents and accepts its guilt in promoting and spreading hate, murder and genocide, only then will your churches stop from being burned down by God.

##

Bullsh*t

Do you really believe the stuff you say?

The term “The religion of Albanians is Albanism” – was part of a beautiful poem written by an Albanian patriot, Pashko Vasa around 1800.
I’m not as good in English but it is ~ like this:

“Wake up Albanians, from the sleep , wake up
And all like brothers the “besa” tight
And don’t see the Churches and Mosques
The religion of Albanians is Albania”

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!
(Joni, 17 May 2016 16:20)

Do you think that Pashko Vasa is the reason why so many present day Albanians are human organ harvesters, heroin pushers, human traffickers, and terrorists that join ISIS more than any other ethnic group in Europe?

Serbs like to emphasize the role of Catholic clergy during NHD days. They celeebrated when Pope suspended the Canonization of Stepanac.

I don`t know the role of Stepanac during WWII, but YES many of Catholic clergy saw Fascism as a Savior of World from Communism and from Democracy (whose Secularism was very dangerous for Catholics according to them).


Serbs like to emphasize the role of Islamic clergy in IS terrorist recruitment. Yes, there are Islamic clergy who support terrorism and recruit them among poor people.

Is SPC to blame as warmonger during `90s. Yes! SPC totally supported Serbian Military and Paramilitary troops and blessed them for "their Holy mission to defend Serbia and SPC".

At least Catholic Church has apologized for their crimes in the past.

Many and many Islamic clerics have condemned IS terroism.

I`ve not seen any Serbian clergy apologize for their support of Serbian terrorism during "90s. They are twice as culprit, they supported terrorism and they still haven`t apologize for that.

VOJVODINA : I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist.

SOUNDS AS IF ALBANIAN IS A RELIGION. OUR ZHIRINOVSKY USED TO SAY THAT HIS MOTHER WAS A RUSSIAN WHILE HIS FATHER WAS A JURIST ... BURRIED IN ISRAEL.

This church is about 130 years old so I think that it deserves to be rebuilt to its former glory regardless of who owns it.
If you are not Albanian than what are you?
(sj, 16 May 2016 16:16) # Comment link

If you do the math , that building was bought at about 1946 by serbian church, and has never been a a serbian church for 130 years. It was just a building, and declared a landmark i NYC for its architecture. sj, you are so dumb that you cant even google your way to find the truth.

Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?
(Joni, 17 May 2016 08:45)

If your numbers are correct, and you have 56.7% Albanian muslims from which 65% are non
denominational, you still have 56.7% Albanian muslims, providing that none of them went to
join ISIS since the last census and non got killed in family blood feuds.

God and Saint Teresa blocked serbs from HEAVEN.
(Azir, 17 May 2016 16:28)
I note that you talk to both and they passed this information to you, but I am curious how did God and Saint Teresa mange to fit into a bottle of whiskey?

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

Even your goats and sheep don't trust your besa anymore.

God and Saint Teresa blocked serbs from HEAVEN.

Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?
(Joni, 17 May 2016 08:45)

If your numbers are correct, and you have 56.7% Albanian muslims from which 65% are non
denominational, you still have 56.7% Albanian muslims, providing that none of them went to
join ISIS since the last census and non got killed in family blood feuds.
(Elite Albanian, 17 May 2016 15:51)


You seem as much capable of handling math as this Serbian church in NYC was capable of handling "holy fire".

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

WE TOO HAVE SUCH A WORD AND IT SOUNDS AS "ИЗГНАТЬ БЕСА".

Drymades.

I don`t judge. I said a fact: SPC supported even encouraged Serbian terrorism and haven`t apologized yet.

And i don`t even want them to apologize. I`m just saying all this stupid hatred must end because it`s harmful for everyone, Croats, Muslim Bosnians, Serbs, Albanians. It`s just stupid.

And this has nothing to do with "Besa" or Religion.

Yes i know they were "DEFENDING Serbdom".

Hitler did the same for German people in WWII.

Free

«Als Sigmund von Herberschtein sich bücken wollte um dem Kaiser die auf diesen Knie ruhende Hand zu kussen, ergriff ihn gewaltiger Lendenschmerz: Hilf mir um Gottes willen, rief an auf Windisch dem Rustem-Pascha an, der ihn verstand, aber nicht half. Suleiman, der ihn ebenfalls verstand, hob die Hand hoch uber das Knie um dem Manne das Kussen derselben zu erleichtern»

*** “When Sigmund von Herberschtein bowed to kiss Sultan’s hand he felt pain in his back bone : “For God’s sake” he asked the guard and Rustam-Pasha ( this ethnic Slav was the Great Viesir ). Everybody understood him. Suleiman who also understood him raised his hand high to ease the pain in the backbone of the ambassador.”


«A deo diffusa est Slavica lingua, ut ejus etiam usus inter Turcas sit et in aula Turcici Imperatoris, inter Aulicos summos familiaris, ac in eo pretio, in quo est Italica apud nostrates aulae proceres»

*** “God gave the Slavic language , it is also used in the court of the Turkish Emperor and among the Turks and among the servicemen of the Court and it is in value in the court of justice too”

"Do you think that Pashko Vasa is the reason why so many present day Albanians are human organ harvesters..."

How many? Please, proof not fiction.

When you speak to a normal Serbian than you can speak seriously and you won`t be disappointed.
(Free, 17 May 2016 17:21)


Free,
Thank you for acknowledging that there aree normal Serbs. Unfortunately, it is a minority of vocal Luddites that cast the rest of us in a bad light.
Faleminderit,

Please B92, I moderate it a little again, and this is not more offensive than this kind of gentleman wrote to me. Ok, do whatever you feel right, but that is an abuse of the power against women by your side.. hahahaa.. ;P
@ Drimadhes
How could I deserve this kind of attention from a gentleman like you? Your words warm my heart, and I’m sorry you are too far away of make me chill, and you are not even able to. You was not able to chafe neither my stomach.
You should be more decided, I’m from Prizren, from Burrel or any of them… I had a really good time last night, I drink a little and I had even the possibility to get some chills after, so I had no time to clean my bathrooms. And as much as you are a gentleman and have a lot of experience : Besoj, se ti je ne gjendje ti pastrosh fare mire banjot me gjuhen tende te gjate!
I wonder, but could someone get dirt if he is “nje plehre”? I’m so able to send “plerat” in recycling – but still “ plehra” will do what he know do better - to pollute!

Besa people, Free and that chatty semi-illiterate from Prizreni, please do not lose your chance to remain silent a single day, please. Here is how your besa works: http://www.kosovo.net/hariton.html

Read it in silence, the only Balkans’ people known for not having ever had any kind of besa, not to God, not to their fellow Albos, not to their neighbors. Who the heck are you to judge the Holy Serbian Orthodox Church? U be gje deti kos qe te jepni mend vend e pa vend? Come on now, go tell your fairytales of priests kissing crosses and kallashnikovs to the monkeys who climb on the monasteries. I’m pretty sure they will got the chills in the same exact place where Srpski spies within UCK got them, in the lower part of the body, right? Go tell your ‘besa’ to them, so many of them it looks like, and I’m pretty sure they are still lecturing on foreign websites on how ‘besa’ works.

Free, if our goal is to see the future Serbs, Albos etc.get along with each other, we should not incite any hatred speech, and we should all stick to the facts. Who established that the SPC supported Serbian terrorism? Who? Do you know how many Albanians were provided shelter in those monasteries? Serbian priests have never ever stopped saying their prayers in Albanian as well, Free. In a sense, Kosovo’s Serbs are in the Albos' besa, since their community is mainly made up of elderly and children who are living there because there’s nowhere they can go. Serbs are in their fellow Albos’ besa, Free, since Kosovo institutions cannot provide any protection for them. Let us say they can’t, they don’t have the means to do it. And ‘besa’ as it works for us means that never ever I should take revenge on the weak. While there are so many Serbs who are ready to admit what the Serbian paramilitaries did in Kosovo, there aren’t any Albanians ready to admit that they replied to shameful ethnic cleansing with another shameful ethnic cleansing campaign. Shameful because Albanians did not win any war with the Yugoslavian army, Nato’s bombs saved our asses. Other than that, I frankly don’t think Serbs and Albos can live together, I don’t see how. Zajednica can help to this regard, reciprocal trust must be restored, maybe, beautiful words, but as of today Serbs are terrorized on a daily basis in Kosovo. Of course, nobody here is particularly enthusiastic about living together, let’s be fair.

Joni, Rote just texted me and he wants this handsome man here to give you some additional positive energy on his behalf. Give her the chills man, he told me, literally, Joni deserves them all! And this is why Joni, I’m replying to your most recent unusual rants. Now, in order for me to avoid censorship, I would try to be the kindest man you have ever met Joni, a real gentleman, the Brit sort of. So, let’s give it a shot woman: I pastrove banjot sot pacavure Burreli? Shiko banjot dhe mos e kruaj lekuren me Orthodhokset, se na ben pis, degjove? Did you get the chills Joni?

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!
(Joni, 17 May 2016 16:20)

Honor!!! When were Albanians honorable in the entire history of this so called Turkish nation?

Was it when Adem Jasheri sacrifice his entire family refusing to release children and women to act as shield against the JNA security forces?

Or was it when the Prisina Airport was named after Adem Jasheri who allowed women and children to be shot.

Albanian Coward is a much better word. BURREC!

Honor is the brave men in the Alamo in Texas letting all women and family leave and dying to the last man against the Mexico including Davey Crockett. .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo

Honor is when the Ottomans swarmed the trench from all sides and headed for him, Sinđelić squeezed the trigger. The Serbs who remained in the trench with Sinđelić, as well as the attacking Ottomans, were all caught in the enormous explosion and perished https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevan_Sin%C4%91eli%C4%87

Free you are an amusing character. Not since reading Edward Lear have I read such total nonsense. If there was a Nobel Prize for fantasy you'd win it. Sadly there isn't so you will remain the anonymous nobody you are. Since your intellect is rarely to be found in your banal ramblings I thought I'd just take the time to point out that you answered your own question. Catholic clergy did encourage genocide, correct. Islamic imams have encouraged IS's murderous rampage,correct. Serbian Orthodox clergy have supported the DEFENCE of Serbdom,correct. So you appear to have identified who the aggressors are and who acts in the DEFENCE of honesty and truth. Now it's time to crawl back under your stone and keep silent,eh??

We're going to waste more of our scarce resources on a church?!

And here I was, thinking we're a secular state.

I guess we should buy a new sports car for each of the priests as well...

VOJVODINA : I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist.

SOUNDS AS IF ALBANIAN IS A RELIGION. OUR ZHIRINOVSKY USED TO SAY THAT HIS MOTHER WAS A RUSSIAN WHILE HIS FATHER WAS A JURIST ... BURRIED IN ISRAEL.

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?
(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?

@ William UK

vojvodina is a troll.not worth your time.

The term “The religion of Albanians is Albanism” – was part of a beautiful poem written by an Albanian patriot, Pashko Vasa around 1800.
I’m not as good in English but it is ~ like this:

“Wake up Albanians, from the sleep , wake up
And all like brothers the “besa” tight
And don’t see the Churches and Mosques
The religion of Albanians is Albania”

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!
(Joni, 17 May 2016 16:20)

Do you think that Pashko Vasa is the reason why so many present day Albanians are human organ harvesters, heroin pushers, human traffickers, and terrorists that join ISIS more than any other ethnic group in Europe?

Vojvodina (the Albanian), if you are involved in the Serbian diaspora, as I am (my wife is Serbian), you would realise that Serbs congregate around the churches throughout the world. It is not a waste of money to rebuild this church. It is a place where Serbians pray and unite in New York.

Besides, I doubt the Serbian government will provide funds of any significance. This is just a bit of marketing for Dacic and Vucic.

NYC will do what it wants to do, not what some Serbian FM wants it to do. Mr. Dacic needs to remember he's not in Kosovo or RS and he can not claim anything Serb related in America like it's another part of Serbia. You want it rebuilt, you can pay for it.

You Serbs are so ridiculous, it's beyond comical. Are there only Albanians and Serbs in this planet, or you just can't swallow the fact that not everyone buys into your primitive propaganda and hate speech?

I remember when this church was burned, some comentators here were saying that Albanians must've done it. El Nino could be tomorrow in the news and you'd probably say that El Nino is Albanian. You people are either obsessed or terrified of Albanians so much, that you can't help it but bring Albanians in every discussion. It's the "Backson" nightmare you're all been having: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidzytvfSyQ

And then you complain why Albanians come here and respond to your slander. Serbs don't even register in Albanian websites, yet there isn't a single day that goes by, that "the Albanian" isn't featured prominiently in the Serbian websites. NATO has a meeting in Tirana - out of a thousands of meetings it has every year everywhere - Serbian sites will rush to report it. Kosova plans to turn KSF into KAF, Serbs almost have a collective heart attack.

I'll tell you why this Church burned down. Because "holy fire" was handled by unholy people. Your entire Church organization is unholy and dirty from the blood of the innocents it instigated to be spelt. When your Church repents and accepts its guilt in promoting and spreading hate, murder and genocide, only then will your churches stop from being burned down by God.

In the care and the good old loving hands of the brave and honorable USA, just like our Serbian Eastern Orthodox monastaries and churches in Kosovo, Bosna and Srpska Krajina!!!

Vojvodina, now that's a funny name for an Albanian. You guys are mostly Muslim, I don't understand why you think it is secular? Since you have all achieved your "independence", why do so many of you keep flooding Serbian sites? Don't you have informative Albanian news?
(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?
(Vojvodina, 16 May 2016 14:22)

Hey Vojvodina, you can accuse me of being Serb 24/7, it will always be a welcomed compliment. May God bless you.

Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?
(Joni, 17 May 2016 08:45)

If your numbers are correct, and you have 56.7% Albanian muslims from which 65% are non
denominational, you still have 56.7% Albanian muslims, providing that none of them went to
join ISIS since the last census and non got killed in family blood feuds.

Besa people, Free and that chatty semi-illiterate from Prizreni, please do not lose your chance to remain silent a single day, please. Here is how your besa works: http://www.kosovo.net/hariton.html

Read it in silence, the only Balkans’ people known for not having ever had any kind of besa, not to God, not to their fellow Albos, not to their neighbors. Who the heck are you to judge the Holy Serbian Orthodox Church? U be gje deti kos qe te jepni mend vend e pa vend? Come on now, go tell your fairytales of priests kissing crosses and kallashnikovs to the monkeys who climb on the monasteries. I’m pretty sure they will got the chills in the same exact place where Srpski spies within UCK got them, in the lower part of the body, right? Go tell your ‘besa’ to them, so many of them it looks like, and I’m pretty sure they are still lecturing on foreign websites on how ‘besa’ works.

"Our community will insist that the full truth is established. Beside the insurance money, we will ask New York City through diplomatic channels to help rebuild, or build a new church."


The investigation has concluded while a go, and the outcome is out there. But, this church was in trouble financially, and due to neglect of priest/s and your holy fire, the insurance may not pay anything.

I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist. What if I accused you, "William", of being Serbian simply because I disagree with your views?
(Vojvodina, 16 May 2016 14:22)

This church is about 130 years old so I think that it deserves to be rebuilt to its former glory regardless of who owns it.
If you are not Albanian than what are you?

LK: I am really surprised the history altering Serbs didn't remove the original non-Serb plaque establishment on the church and immediately proclaim Manhattan Serb Territory ,given the very old structure....

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.

Insurance job wil come back to haunt you " wholy" people...

Free

«Als Sigmund von Herberschtein sich bücken wollte um dem Kaiser die auf diesen Knie ruhende Hand zu kussen, ergriff ihn gewaltiger Lendenschmerz: Hilf mir um Gottes willen, rief an auf Windisch dem Rustem-Pascha an, der ihn verstand, aber nicht half. Suleiman, der ihn ebenfalls verstand, hob die Hand hoch uber das Knie um dem Manne das Kussen derselben zu erleichtern»

*** “When Sigmund von Herberschtein bowed to kiss Sultan’s hand he felt pain in his back bone : “For God’s sake” he asked the guard and Rustam-Pasha ( this ethnic Slav was the Great Viesir ). Everybody understood him. Suleiman who also understood him raised his hand high to ease the pain in the backbone of the ambassador.”


«A deo diffusa est Slavica lingua, ut ejus etiam usus inter Turcas sit et in aula Turcici Imperatoris, inter Aulicos summos familiaris, ac in eo pretio, in quo est Italica apud nostrates aulae proceres»

*** “God gave the Slavic language , it is also used in the court of the Turkish Emperor and among the Turks and among the servicemen of the Court and it is in value in the court of justice too”

Joni, Rote just texted me and he wants this handsome man here to give you some additional positive energy on his behalf. Give her the chills man, he told me, literally, Joni deserves them all! And this is why Joni, I’m replying to your most recent unusual rants. Now, in order for me to avoid censorship, I would try to be the kindest man you have ever met Joni, a real gentleman, the Brit sort of. So, let’s give it a shot woman: I pastrove banjot sot pacavure Burreli? Shiko banjot dhe mos e kruaj lekuren me Orthodhokset, se na ben pis, degjove? Did you get the chills Joni?

Insurance Fraud is not "Holy"....

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

Even your goats and sheep don't trust your besa anymore.

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.
(Azir, 16 May 2016 22:34)

No, that's what Albanians do. One family moves in, multiples with 18 kids, and claims it's ancient Albanian territory. You mixed the two people up, you ignorant racist.

Prizreni wrote:
Your entire Church organization is unholy and dirty from the blood of the innocents it instigated to be spelt. When your Church repents and accepts its guilt in promoting and spreading hate, murder and genocide, only then will your churches stop from being burned down by God.

##

Bullsh*t

Do you really believe the stuff you say?

"Do you think that Pashko Vasa is the reason why so many present day Albanians are human organ harvesters..."

How many? Please, proof not fiction.

How did Dacic get a visa to visit America I would like to know...

LK: I am really surprised the history altering Serbs didn't remove the original non-Serb plaque establishment on the church and immediately proclaim Manhattan Serb Territory ,given the very old structure....

I'm sure the half dozen Serb immigrants is enough to demand Municipalities of Community of serb settlers/squatters.

Insurance job wil come back to haunt you " wholy" people...

Serbs like to emphasize the role of Catholic clergy during NHD days. They celeebrated when Pope suspended the Canonization of Stepanac.

I don`t know the role of Stepanac during WWII, but YES many of Catholic clergy saw Fascism as a Savior of World from Communism and from Democracy (whose Secularism was very dangerous for Catholics according to them).


Serbs like to emphasize the role of Islamic clergy in IS terrorist recruitment. Yes, there are Islamic clergy who support terrorism and recruit them among poor people.

Is SPC to blame as warmonger during `90s. Yes! SPC totally supported Serbian Military and Paramilitary troops and blessed them for "their Holy mission to defend Serbia and SPC".

At least Catholic Church has apologized for their crimes in the past.

Many and many Islamic clerics have condemned IS terroism.

I`ve not seen any Serbian clergy apologize for their support of Serbian terrorism during "90s. They are twice as culprit, they supported terrorism and they still haven`t apologize for that.

Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?
(Joni, 17 May 2016 08:45)

If your numbers are correct, and you have 56.7% Albanian muslims from which 65% are non
denominational, you still have 56.7% Albanian muslims, providing that none of them went to
join ISIS since the last census and non got killed in family blood feuds.
(Elite Albanian, 17 May 2016 15:51)


You seem as much capable of handling math as this Serbian church in NYC was capable of handling "holy fire".

Free, if our goal is to see the future Serbs, Albos etc.get along with each other, we should not incite any hatred speech, and we should all stick to the facts. Who established that the SPC supported Serbian terrorism? Who? Do you know how many Albanians were provided shelter in those monasteries? Serbian priests have never ever stopped saying their prayers in Albanian as well, Free. In a sense, Kosovo’s Serbs are in the Albos' besa, since their community is mainly made up of elderly and children who are living there because there’s nowhere they can go. Serbs are in their fellow Albos’ besa, Free, since Kosovo institutions cannot provide any protection for them. Let us say they can’t, they don’t have the means to do it. And ‘besa’ as it works for us means that never ever I should take revenge on the weak. While there are so many Serbs who are ready to admit what the Serbian paramilitaries did in Kosovo, there aren’t any Albanians ready to admit that they replied to shameful ethnic cleansing with another shameful ethnic cleansing campaign. Shameful because Albanians did not win any war with the Yugoslavian army, Nato’s bombs saved our asses. Other than that, I frankly don’t think Serbs and Albos can live together, I don’t see how. Zajednica can help to this regard, reciprocal trust must be restored, maybe, beautiful words, but as of today Serbs are terrorized on a daily basis in Kosovo. Of course, nobody here is particularly enthusiastic about living together, let’s be fair.

Burning churches and destroying or vandalizing other people's places of worship is a nasty habit for many here in the US, not just Kosovo. Notice how rarely mosques are targeted despite all the hand wringing about "Islamophobia".

God and Saint Teresa blocked serbs from HEAVEN.

@ Joni

Stop wasting your time explaining to some people that to Albanians Ethnicity is much more important that Religion. It`s like playing Beethoven to a deaf.

Do you think they hate Albanians because of their ethnicity?
They hate Croats and Muslim Bosnians even they share the same ethnicity.
Or because of their religion?
They hate Bulgarians even they share the same religion and even ethnically they are "cousins" too.

Some people just hate themselves and the only way thay can survive is to reflect this hatred on the others, the foreigners, the neighbours even their brothers or parents.

Most of Serbs are not like this, but the problem is that this kind of people in Serbia had been and still are being used by warmonger and populist politicians for their agenda. And being very noisy they falsely seem to be "the majority".

Just don`t take them seriously. It`s ridiculous to speak seriously to ridiculous people.

When you speak to a normal Serbian than you can speak seriously and you won`t be disappointed.

I try to warn you something was going to happen to St. Sava Cathedral but no one did take my warnings seriously.

Then i told you that it was a KLA terrorist act orchestrated by United Satan Alliance, Illuminati, The Vatican and The Elders of Zion (you can`t have a proper conspiracy without the Jews, you know) as part of The Universal War against Holy Slavic Eastern Orthodox Church in America, Europe, Australia, Asia, Africa and Mars. But no one seems to be aware of it. Except for one, of course.

Why? I remember when it was still burning many did already knew who did it.

Don`t tell me you really bought that "it was the candles" crap.

But... hey isn`t it a bit hypocritical to ask Americans to pay for it? I mean you asking Satan to build The House of Holy Slavic Eastern Orthodox God?
Isn`t that a sacrilege or a desecration or whatever?

This church is about 130 years old so I think that it deserves to be rebuilt to its former glory regardless of who owns it.
If you are not Albanian than what are you?
(sj, 16 May 2016 16:16) # Comment link

If you do the math , that building was bought at about 1946 by serbian church, and has never been a a serbian church for 130 years. It was just a building, and declared a landmark i NYC for its architecture. sj, you are so dumb that you cant even google your way to find the truth.

Rote : All Albanians are religiously Shqiptare!

Although Vojvodina is not.

He is a defender of the truth.

VOJVODINA : I am not Albanian and I'm an Atheist.
SOUNDS AS IF ALBANIAN IS A RELIGION.
(rote, 16 May 2016 23:33)

The term “The religion of Albanians is Albanism” – was part of a beautiful poem written by an Albanian patriot, Pashko Vasa around 1800.
I’m not as good in English but it is ~ like this:

“Wake up Albanians, from the sleep , wake up
And all like brothers the “besa” tight
And don’t see the Churches and Mosques
The religion of Albanians is Albania”

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!
(Joni, 17 May 2016 16:20)

Honor!!! When were Albanians honorable in the entire history of this so called Turkish nation?

Was it when Adem Jasheri sacrifice his entire family refusing to release children and women to act as shield against the JNA security forces?

Or was it when the Prisina Airport was named after Adem Jasheri who allowed women and children to be shot.

Albanian Coward is a much better word. BURREC!

Honor is the brave men in the Alamo in Texas letting all women and family leave and dying to the last man against the Mexico including Davey Crockett. .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo

Honor is when the Ottomans swarmed the trench from all sides and headed for him, Sinđelić squeezed the trigger. The Serbs who remained in the trench with Sinđelić, as well as the attacking Ottomans, were all caught in the enormous explosion and perished https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevan_Sin%C4%91eli%C4%87

(William UK, 16 May 2016 12:40)

Why are you here? You are not a Serb, furthermore this is an English site, no?
Firstly, Albania and Kosovo are secular countries. The religion is a personal issue to us.
Now, regarding to the religion not than I have nothing against the Muslim religion in Albania, as much as I date one Muslim Albanian I have nothing against. But, I don’t like the manipulated facts and I support the church which claim that those facts are not real, and I support her, as much as nobody as me and my family to declare the religion. Fact!
Regarding to the last census https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania ( Acctually, according to the 2011 census were 56.7% Muslims not 58.79 %, but anyway)
So, today regarding to this census in Albania are 56.7 % of the population Muslims – while regarding to the same census 65% of those 56.7 % are non-denominational Muslims.
I personally as too many other Albanians ask why those “non- denominational” are counted like Muslims – and according to who?
Now could you resolve for me one equation please:
If we have 56.7% Albanian Muslim – and from those 65% are non-denominational.
How % Muslims are in Albania?

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

WE TOO HAVE SUCH A WORD AND IT SOUNDS AS "ИЗГНАТЬ БЕСА".

The comments are far more interesting than the article.

God and Saint Teresa blocked serbs from HEAVEN.
(Azir, 17 May 2016 16:28)
I note that you talk to both and they passed this information to you, but I am curious how did God and Saint Teresa mange to fit into a bottle of whiskey?

Free you are an amusing character. Not since reading Edward Lear have I read such total nonsense. If there was a Nobel Prize for fantasy you'd win it. Sadly there isn't so you will remain the anonymous nobody you are. Since your intellect is rarely to be found in your banal ramblings I thought I'd just take the time to point out that you answered your own question. Catholic clergy did encourage genocide, correct. Islamic imams have encouraged IS's murderous rampage,correct. Serbian Orthodox clergy have supported the DEFENCE of Serbdom,correct. So you appear to have identified who the aggressors are and who acts in the DEFENCE of honesty and truth. Now it's time to crawl back under your stone and keep silent,eh??

“besa” – is more than a “word of honor” to Albanians
Since that time this is our hymn! Cheers!

Even your goats and sheep don't trust your besa anymore.
(pizza lover, 17 May 2016 19:18)

I should admit that you Serbs have a big fantasia eee.. You think all the time about goats and sheep. That’s why Serbian military and paramilitary don't let even those poor animals alone. Do you have a goat at home? Poor animal..

(Ps: B92, I moderate it a "little", please post it now – Thank you!)
@ Free
Hahahah... Vielen Dank! I like you!
You know sometime I’am impressed by myself. Did I wrote that? :P
Honestly I had a really good time and one good conversation with a “rote” friends. He knew to much about Albania, it was like having a good conversation with “rote” but he was a really good and positive person who gave to me to much positive energia.
I’m not even often in this site, so I forgot that this is B92, and here you have to deal with to many “trapa”. Honestly, I don’t care to much what Serbs think – because I think they are persons who hate their own skin., imagine the rest.
But, I have nothing against Russians, as much as they never came in my country like invaders, and never killed Albanians.
I don’t agree with their politics – but the people are great, and believe me no matter what “rote” tell here Russians did not supported Serbs in Jugoslavian wars and mostly of them agree that they were guilty for Bosnian genocide and Kosovo war crimes.

@ Drimadhes

I don’t even understand who is the real illiterate here actually. And how could you permit yourself to hurt my feelings, and call me semi- illiterate are you crazyyy..I’m totally illiterate. Ha.ha.ha. I wonder how could be possible that an illiterate and chatty soul judge someone else for illiteracy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFPkhx5lx_E
Well, we are talking to “besa”. What have that to do with Serbs? ‘Besa” was given to “friends” and Serbs never were our friends. So, Albanians never encroach her toward Serbs because she never was given to them. But, don’t worry I understand many Serbs here it has pass to many time or centuries since the time they used to do something honorable, all Ballkan remember are the wars.
Regarding to the priest, “u prefte ne paqe” but don’t show to us thinks without evidences – i mean that Albanians were not found guilty on that horrible crime.
And don’t act here like a saint Orthodox warrior because then.., you should see and judge even Serbs. Better check and see how many Catholic Priests were killed just because they were Albanian or refused to convert in Orthodox, or even better you should judge your priests who bless war in name of god. Ok??

Yes i know they were "DEFENDING Serbdom".

Hitler did the same for German people in WWII.

When you speak to a normal Serbian than you can speak seriously and you won`t be disappointed.
(Free, 17 May 2016 17:21)


Free,
Thank you for acknowledging that there aree normal Serbs. Unfortunately, it is a minority of vocal Luddites that cast the rest of us in a bad light.
Faleminderit,

Drymades.

I don`t judge. I said a fact: SPC supported even encouraged Serbian terrorism and haven`t apologized yet.

And i don`t even want them to apologize. I`m just saying all this stupid hatred must end because it`s harmful for everyone, Croats, Muslim Bosnians, Serbs, Albanians. It`s just stupid.

And this has nothing to do with "Besa" or Religion.

Please B92, I moderate it a little again, and this is not more offensive than this kind of gentleman wrote to me. Ok, do whatever you feel right, but that is an abuse of the power against women by your side.. hahahaa.. ;P
@ Drimadhes
How could I deserve this kind of attention from a gentleman like you? Your words warm my heart, and I’m sorry you are too far away of make me chill, and you are not even able to. You was not able to chafe neither my stomach.
You should be more decided, I’m from Prizren, from Burrel or any of them… I had a really good time last night, I drink a little and I had even the possibility to get some chills after, so I had no time to clean my bathrooms. And as much as you are a gentleman and have a lot of experience : Besoj, se ti je ne gjendje ti pastrosh fare mire banjot me gjuhen tende te gjate!
I wonder, but could someone get dirt if he is “nje plehre”? I’m so able to send “plerat” in recycling – but still “ plehra” will do what he know do better - to pollute!