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"Serbia in EU with Kosovo - or not at all" - president

Serbia is firmly on the path towards full membership in the EU, but wants to enter Europe as an integral whole - either that or nothing, says Tomislav Nikolic.

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Servia

pre 8 godina

Does Serbia really want Kosovo? The country/region is 95% ethnic Albanian, jihadist groups and their sympathizers have infiltrated mosques, there is massive corruption, poverty and unemployment are extreme, and most of all, the majority of the people in Kosovo don't want to be part of Serbia (that number would change if Serbia joined the EU). We can argue about the causes of these problems, but they are just the plain facts. I don't know how or why Serbia would want to absorb the massive problems in Kosovo. There's no way that Serbs will be allowed to commit genocide, expel people, or even repress Albanians. It just isn't feasible. If Serbia has the ambition to join the EU, bringing Kosovo back into th fold would set them back 20 years.

j

pre 8 godina

And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.


-- I agree with this.

At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.
(Peggy, 11 May 2016 01:32)

-- I don't agree with this. A country is not a company or a union. Also intelligence and character matter. This guy leaves a lot to be desired on both of these qualities.

observer

pre 8 godina

@peggy and sasa p.

To my best knowledge, correct me if I am wrong, Serbia is the only country in the world which has a president who used to be a grave digger supervisor. I guess that is something to be very proud of, and I think it says a lot.

observer

pre 8 godina

P's Stop Lying again
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 11 May 2016 00:38)

so you want to call him 'grave digger superviser'. hahaha ... fact is that he is seen and called 'the grave digger' around the world. just google for 'Nicolc grave digger' and you will see that the BBC, New York Times, Spiegel, Observer, almost any newspaper in the world refers to your president as 'the grave digger'.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

No one has been able to explain it in simple English.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)


Perhaps it's because you don't understand simple English.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38
====================================
And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.
At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38)

To Observer,
He ,Nikolic was a cemetery supervisor, not grave digger !.So stop lying and exaggerating the profession.It's a honest day's work being a Grave digger or cemetery supervisor.It's better than your Shqiptars braking ,destroying, looting and stealing hraves from Serb cemeteries.
P's Stop Lying again ,as usual. I saw Djuric last week in Kosovska Mitrovica with no ID card!.

observer

pre 8 godina

'To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 10 May 2016 11:51)

If you can read, go to wikipedia, and lot's of other sources provide you with the same info. Google gives you lots of references to the former profession of your president:

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomislav_Nikolić

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 15:12)
There is no difference between Serbs from Vojvodina or elsewhere. I have a relative who married a girl from Vojvodina and I met her parents and other relatives who live in Subotica and I saw no difference, but you may have a different version.
Who mentioned gays?
I spent 6 months in Europe last year from March to end of September and I travelled extensively throughout Serbia and crime is in most places. Yes things were very different before the break up of Yugoslavia and places were safe, no one lived on the streets, but that is the price of western democracy aka rampant drugs, homelessness and crime. The only thing you get looking back is a sore neck.
Slovenia, Croatia, BiH and Macedonia are all the same mate. You should go there sometime.
What do you think that joining the EU things will improve? Yeah, keep on dreaming.

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)

First of all, the key difference between Vojvodina Serbs and Serbians is your tendency to label people you disagree with as Albanians or gays or any other group you deem unacceptable.
Secondly, since recently, Vojvodina is among the least safe parts of Serbia and Novi Sad is the crime capital of Serbia. Back when we had full autonomy, Novi Sad was one of the safest cities in the entire Yugoslavia.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 10:10)
Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
Sandzak is in a better situation than anything I’ve seen in Kosovo or Albania so there is no need to worry too much, and who cares about NATO or the EU.
I’m fascinated to read about joining the EU, but after nearly 7 years on this site I have not once read about the benefits, aside of the EU propaganda on trade, development and eternal happiness.
No one has been able to explain it in simple English.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45) # Comment link

To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!

No Name

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia but Kosovo is no longer an integral part of Serbia.
Nikolic sets a firm stance in order to score with the populous and to secure his own political agenda, knowing very well that a return to the old days is extremely unlikely.
Making these either-or demands does nothing to further the cause of a better future for Serbia nor does it make Serbia any safer. All he has achieved is deepening the rift between 'us' and 'them'.

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Kosovo was lost decades ago and we're not joining EU and NATO until we accept it. Instead of trying to turn back time, mr. President, why don't you try to do something for the people in the territories you actually do have, like Sandzak and Vojvodina?

Pedro

pre 8 godina

The Serbs waited 400 years to get freedom from the Turks. They will wait just as long to get Kosovo Back... dont make the mistake thinking that Kosovo is Serbian, and that once more it will be part of Serbia.

Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know the nation very well.
Kosovo Albanians are a made up country...artificially created by NATO in order to allow them to establish a base inside Serbia. Kosovo is a joke, and bond steel will burn sooner or later. God be at the mercy of the Albanians when the Serbs return with vengeance. They will wish they never existed.

sj

pre 8 godina

(LK, 9 May 2016 19:37)
You still find it hard to come to terms that no matter what the “White Muslims” want in Kosovo they are not going to get it. You will never be allowed to join with Albania no matter how much you wish for it.

The EU want Kosovo to join with Serbia because Kosovo is economically unsustainable, but the only people that are deluding themselves are the Albanian diaspora who think that sending back a few Euros every month is going to make a difference.
NATO is now a military joke since time and time again it has been shown that it excels only in providing excellent working lunches and dinners with superb wines and nothing more. The Rand Corporation ran a computer model on the scenario that Russia invades the Baltics and the result was horrifying for NATO. Even with that 30,000 ready reaction force it would be resoundingly defeated.
If you find that hard to believe then read the attachment on the readiness of US forces, which are the backbone of NATO. Remember the American Enterprise Institute is a far right wing think tank that believes even Ronny Reagan had pinko tendencies.

http://www.aei.org/publication/readiness-tracker-volume-2-unsustainable-path/
So much for a NATO base in Kosovo LOL!!!!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45)
===========================
Or worse, grave destroyer.
Albanians are mocking grave digging but proud of grave destroying. What sort of people are they?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The President doesn't live in the real world....Is he really Serbia's best? Come on....
(EA, 9 May 2016 21:39)
======================
I didn't know you cared.
For as long as he stands firm on this, yes he is the best.

Blue Angel

pre 8 godina

I did not think of mr Nikolic as man with Balls. EU is a Totalitarian Regime setup by the political Elites Serbia doesn't have to be a member of EU in order to trade with them. pay small fee and you can trade with them. 28 European countries is not the whole world.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.

LK

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is gone and will never be part of Serbia again. Not a difficult concept to understand. 90-95% of Kosovo wants independence or to be part of Albania. NATO has military bases there. Russia will not help in Kosovo. Serbia has no real military. So please tell me how you think Kosovo will return? It's gone, so deal with reality please. Nikolic is a fool and a panderer to nationalists.

the truth

pre 8 godina

Well said Mr. President, God Bless You, God Bless Srbija and most of all God Bleass our Dear Mother Russia!!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 9 May 2016 16:24) # Comment link

You are a fool if you believe this rubbish!?

rote

pre 8 godina

enter Europe as an integral whole - either that or nothing, says Tomislav Nikolic.

Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKhnm2GvY0&list=PLC2UsglnuiUTUe3rpN5o-nEwYTes3u-g9

David Cameron

pre 8 godina

The mood in Europe is changing.

European countries are becoming more allergic to the potential for Islamic terrorism, and casting a suspicious glance at Albanians and the white muslims in Bosnia.

Anti-establishment political parties are breathing down the necks of the old consensus / status quo groupings in Europe.

This shift bodes well for those who have been on the outer over the last 20 years.

The EU is changing.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"Serbia in EU with Kosovo - or not at all" - president

Does it means Serbia, once it is ready to become an EU member, will wait the twenty or so more years until Kosovo is ready to become an EU member as well?

the truth

pre 8 godina

Well said Mr. President, God Bless You, God Bless Srbija and most of all God Bleass our Dear Mother Russia!!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 9 May 2016 16:24) # Comment link

You are a fool if you believe this rubbish!?

LK

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is gone and will never be part of Serbia again. Not a difficult concept to understand. 90-95% of Kosovo wants independence or to be part of Albania. NATO has military bases there. Russia will not help in Kosovo. Serbia has no real military. So please tell me how you think Kosovo will return? It's gone, so deal with reality please. Nikolic is a fool and a panderer to nationalists.

David Cameron

pre 8 godina

The mood in Europe is changing.

European countries are becoming more allergic to the potential for Islamic terrorism, and casting a suspicious glance at Albanians and the white muslims in Bosnia.

Anti-establishment political parties are breathing down the necks of the old consensus / status quo groupings in Europe.

This shift bodes well for those who have been on the outer over the last 20 years.

The EU is changing.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"Serbia in EU with Kosovo - or not at all" - president

Does it means Serbia, once it is ready to become an EU member, will wait the twenty or so more years until Kosovo is ready to become an EU member as well?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.

observer

pre 8 godina

'To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 10 May 2016 11:51)

If you can read, go to wikipedia, and lot's of other sources provide you with the same info. Google gives you lots of references to the former profession of your president:

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomislav_Nikolić

rote

pre 8 godina

enter Europe as an integral whole - either that or nothing, says Tomislav Nikolic.

Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKhnm2GvY0&list=PLC2UsglnuiUTUe3rpN5o-nEwYTes3u-g9

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Kosovo was lost decades ago and we're not joining EU and NATO until we accept it. Instead of trying to turn back time, mr. President, why don't you try to do something for the people in the territories you actually do have, like Sandzak and Vojvodina?

Pedro

pre 8 godina

The Serbs waited 400 years to get freedom from the Turks. They will wait just as long to get Kosovo Back... dont make the mistake thinking that Kosovo is Serbian, and that once more it will be part of Serbia.

Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know the nation very well.
Kosovo Albanians are a made up country...artificially created by NATO in order to allow them to establish a base inside Serbia. Kosovo is a joke, and bond steel will burn sooner or later. God be at the mercy of the Albanians when the Serbs return with vengeance. They will wish they never existed.

observer

pre 8 godina

P's Stop Lying again
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 11 May 2016 00:38)

so you want to call him 'grave digger superviser'. hahaha ... fact is that he is seen and called 'the grave digger' around the world. just google for 'Nicolc grave digger' and you will see that the BBC, New York Times, Spiegel, Observer, almost any newspaper in the world refers to your president as 'the grave digger'.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45)
===========================
Or worse, grave destroyer.
Albanians are mocking grave digging but proud of grave destroying. What sort of people are they?

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)

First of all, the key difference between Vojvodina Serbs and Serbians is your tendency to label people you disagree with as Albanians or gays or any other group you deem unacceptable.
Secondly, since recently, Vojvodina is among the least safe parts of Serbia and Novi Sad is the crime capital of Serbia. Back when we had full autonomy, Novi Sad was one of the safest cities in the entire Yugoslavia.

observer

pre 8 godina

@peggy and sasa p.

To my best knowledge, correct me if I am wrong, Serbia is the only country in the world which has a president who used to be a grave digger supervisor. I guess that is something to be very proud of, and I think it says a lot.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The President doesn't live in the real world....Is he really Serbia's best? Come on....
(EA, 9 May 2016 21:39)
======================
I didn't know you cared.
For as long as he stands firm on this, yes he is the best.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 10:10)
Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
Sandzak is in a better situation than anything I’ve seen in Kosovo or Albania so there is no need to worry too much, and who cares about NATO or the EU.
I’m fascinated to read about joining the EU, but after nearly 7 years on this site I have not once read about the benefits, aside of the EU propaganda on trade, development and eternal happiness.
No one has been able to explain it in simple English.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

No one has been able to explain it in simple English.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)


Perhaps it's because you don't understand simple English.

sj

pre 8 godina

(LK, 9 May 2016 19:37)
You still find it hard to come to terms that no matter what the “White Muslims” want in Kosovo they are not going to get it. You will never be allowed to join with Albania no matter how much you wish for it.

The EU want Kosovo to join with Serbia because Kosovo is economically unsustainable, but the only people that are deluding themselves are the Albanian diaspora who think that sending back a few Euros every month is going to make a difference.
NATO is now a military joke since time and time again it has been shown that it excels only in providing excellent working lunches and dinners with superb wines and nothing more. The Rand Corporation ran a computer model on the scenario that Russia invades the Baltics and the result was horrifying for NATO. Even with that 30,000 ready reaction force it would be resoundingly defeated.
If you find that hard to believe then read the attachment on the readiness of US forces, which are the backbone of NATO. Remember the American Enterprise Institute is a far right wing think tank that believes even Ronny Reagan had pinko tendencies.

http://www.aei.org/publication/readiness-tracker-volume-2-unsustainable-path/
So much for a NATO base in Kosovo LOL!!!!

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45) # Comment link

To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!

Blue Angel

pre 8 godina

I did not think of mr Nikolic as man with Balls. EU is a Totalitarian Regime setup by the political Elites Serbia doesn't have to be a member of EU in order to trade with them. pay small fee and you can trade with them. 28 European countries is not the whole world.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 15:12)
There is no difference between Serbs from Vojvodina or elsewhere. I have a relative who married a girl from Vojvodina and I met her parents and other relatives who live in Subotica and I saw no difference, but you may have a different version.
Who mentioned gays?
I spent 6 months in Europe last year from March to end of September and I travelled extensively throughout Serbia and crime is in most places. Yes things were very different before the break up of Yugoslavia and places were safe, no one lived on the streets, but that is the price of western democracy aka rampant drugs, homelessness and crime. The only thing you get looking back is a sore neck.
Slovenia, Croatia, BiH and Macedonia are all the same mate. You should go there sometime.
What do you think that joining the EU things will improve? Yeah, keep on dreaming.

No Name

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia but Kosovo is no longer an integral part of Serbia.
Nikolic sets a firm stance in order to score with the populous and to secure his own political agenda, knowing very well that a return to the old days is extremely unlikely.
Making these either-or demands does nothing to further the cause of a better future for Serbia nor does it make Serbia any safer. All he has achieved is deepening the rift between 'us' and 'them'.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38)

To Observer,
He ,Nikolic was a cemetery supervisor, not grave digger !.So stop lying and exaggerating the profession.It's a honest day's work being a Grave digger or cemetery supervisor.It's better than your Shqiptars braking ,destroying, looting and stealing hraves from Serb cemeteries.
P's Stop Lying again ,as usual. I saw Djuric last week in Kosovska Mitrovica with no ID card!.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38
====================================
And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.
At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.

j

pre 8 godina

And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.


-- I agree with this.

At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.
(Peggy, 11 May 2016 01:32)

-- I don't agree with this. A country is not a company or a union. Also intelligence and character matter. This guy leaves a lot to be desired on both of these qualities.

Servia

pre 8 godina

Does Serbia really want Kosovo? The country/region is 95% ethnic Albanian, jihadist groups and their sympathizers have infiltrated mosques, there is massive corruption, poverty and unemployment are extreme, and most of all, the majority of the people in Kosovo don't want to be part of Serbia (that number would change if Serbia joined the EU). We can argue about the causes of these problems, but they are just the plain facts. I don't know how or why Serbia would want to absorb the massive problems in Kosovo. There's no way that Serbs will be allowed to commit genocide, expel people, or even repress Albanians. It just isn't feasible. If Serbia has the ambition to join the EU, bringing Kosovo back into th fold would set them back 20 years.

LK

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is gone and will never be part of Serbia again. Not a difficult concept to understand. 90-95% of Kosovo wants independence or to be part of Albania. NATO has military bases there. Russia will not help in Kosovo. Serbia has no real military. So please tell me how you think Kosovo will return? It's gone, so deal with reality please. Nikolic is a fool and a panderer to nationalists.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"Serbia in EU with Kosovo - or not at all" - president

Does it means Serbia, once it is ready to become an EU member, will wait the twenty or so more years until Kosovo is ready to become an EU member as well?

the truth

pre 8 godina

Well said Mr. President, God Bless You, God Bless Srbija and most of all God Bleass our Dear Mother Russia!!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 9 May 2016 16:24) # Comment link

You are a fool if you believe this rubbish!?

David Cameron

pre 8 godina

The mood in Europe is changing.

European countries are becoming more allergic to the potential for Islamic terrorism, and casting a suspicious glance at Albanians and the white muslims in Bosnia.

Anti-establishment political parties are breathing down the necks of the old consensus / status quo groupings in Europe.

This shift bodes well for those who have been on the outer over the last 20 years.

The EU is changing.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.

rote

pre 8 godina

enter Europe as an integral whole - either that or nothing, says Tomislav Nikolic.

Proud Words On A Dusty Shelf ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKhnm2GvY0&list=PLC2UsglnuiUTUe3rpN5o-nEwYTes3u-g9

Pedro

pre 8 godina

The Serbs waited 400 years to get freedom from the Turks. They will wait just as long to get Kosovo Back... dont make the mistake thinking that Kosovo is Serbian, and that once more it will be part of Serbia.

Anyone who thinks otherwise does not know the nation very well.
Kosovo Albanians are a made up country...artificially created by NATO in order to allow them to establish a base inside Serbia. Kosovo is a joke, and bond steel will burn sooner or later. God be at the mercy of the Albanians when the Serbs return with vengeance. They will wish they never existed.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 10:10)
Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
Sandzak is in a better situation than anything I’ve seen in Kosovo or Albania so there is no need to worry too much, and who cares about NATO or the EU.
I’m fascinated to read about joining the EU, but after nearly 7 years on this site I have not once read about the benefits, aside of the EU propaganda on trade, development and eternal happiness.
No one has been able to explain it in simple English.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The President doesn't live in the real world....Is he really Serbia's best? Come on....
(EA, 9 May 2016 21:39)
======================
I didn't know you cared.
For as long as he stands firm on this, yes he is the best.

sj

pre 8 godina

(LK, 9 May 2016 19:37)
You still find it hard to come to terms that no matter what the “White Muslims” want in Kosovo they are not going to get it. You will never be allowed to join with Albania no matter how much you wish for it.

The EU want Kosovo to join with Serbia because Kosovo is economically unsustainable, but the only people that are deluding themselves are the Albanian diaspora who think that sending back a few Euros every month is going to make a difference.
NATO is now a military joke since time and time again it has been shown that it excels only in providing excellent working lunches and dinners with superb wines and nothing more. The Rand Corporation ran a computer model on the scenario that Russia invades the Baltics and the result was horrifying for NATO. Even with that 30,000 ready reaction force it would be resoundingly defeated.
If you find that hard to believe then read the attachment on the readiness of US forces, which are the backbone of NATO. Remember the American Enterprise Institute is a far right wing think tank that believes even Ronny Reagan had pinko tendencies.

http://www.aei.org/publication/readiness-tracker-volume-2-unsustainable-path/
So much for a NATO base in Kosovo LOL!!!!

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Kosovo was lost decades ago and we're not joining EU and NATO until we accept it. Instead of trying to turn back time, mr. President, why don't you try to do something for the people in the territories you actually do have, like Sandzak and Vojvodina?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38)

To Observer,
He ,Nikolic was a cemetery supervisor, not grave digger !.So stop lying and exaggerating the profession.It's a honest day's work being a Grave digger or cemetery supervisor.It's better than your Shqiptars braking ,destroying, looting and stealing hraves from Serb cemeteries.
P's Stop Lying again ,as usual. I saw Djuric last week in Kosovska Mitrovica with no ID card!.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45)
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Or worse, grave destroyer.
Albanians are mocking grave digging but proud of grave destroying. What sort of people are they?

sj

pre 8 godina

(Vojvodina, 10 May 2016 15:12)
There is no difference between Serbs from Vojvodina or elsewhere. I have a relative who married a girl from Vojvodina and I met her parents and other relatives who live in Subotica and I saw no difference, but you may have a different version.
Who mentioned gays?
I spent 6 months in Europe last year from March to end of September and I travelled extensively throughout Serbia and crime is in most places. Yes things were very different before the break up of Yugoslavia and places were safe, no one lived on the streets, but that is the price of western democracy aka rampant drugs, homelessness and crime. The only thing you get looking back is a sore neck.
Slovenia, Croatia, BiH and Macedonia are all the same mate. You should go there sometime.
What do you think that joining the EU things will improve? Yeah, keep on dreaming.

Blue Angel

pre 8 godina

I did not think of mr Nikolic as man with Balls. EU is a Totalitarian Regime setup by the political Elites Serbia doesn't have to be a member of EU in order to trade with them. pay small fee and you can trade with them. 28 European countries is not the whole world.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

[link]ć
(observer, 10 May 2016 16:38
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And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.
At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

some good advice. Get rid of your grave digger president. He is digging the grave for Serbia.
(observer, 9 May 2016 16:55)

Prove to me,what year did he work as a grave digger.!
Your Shqiptars mob ,destroy graves and rob them.
P's There is nothing wrong working as a grave digger!, better than being on social benefits.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 9 May 2016 22:45) # Comment link

To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Since it was lost decades ago why are all these Albanians, including you, on a Serb-based website tell everyone that its all gone???????? Surely you don’t need to do that or is it a matter of convincing yourselves first.
If you even travelled in Vojvodina you would see that it’s very well looked after. However, since you do not live there nor anywhere in Serbia and your only source of information is Wikipedia then its little wonder you post such a funny statement.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)

First of all, the key difference between Vojvodina Serbs and Serbians is your tendency to label people you disagree with as Albanians or gays or any other group you deem unacceptable.
Secondly, since recently, Vojvodina is among the least safe parts of Serbia and Novi Sad is the crime capital of Serbia. Back when we had full autonomy, Novi Sad was one of the safest cities in the entire Yugoslavia.

No Name

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia but Kosovo is no longer an integral part of Serbia.
Nikolic sets a firm stance in order to score with the populous and to secure his own political agenda, knowing very well that a return to the old days is extremely unlikely.
Making these either-or demands does nothing to further the cause of a better future for Serbia nor does it make Serbia any safer. All he has achieved is deepening the rift between 'us' and 'them'.

observer

pre 8 godina

'To Observed,
I am still waiting for you to give me the dates ,Mr Nikolic worked as a honest job ,of grave digger!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 10 May 2016 11:51)

If you can read, go to wikipedia, and lot's of other sources provide you with the same info. Google gives you lots of references to the former profession of your president:

'Tomislav Nikolić was born in Kragujevac. His father, Radomir, was a labourer, and his mother, Živadinka (née Đoković), was a housewife. In his youth, he trained in athletics. He completed secondary technical school in Kragujevac. His first employment was as a cemetery supervisor.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomislav_Nikolić

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

No one has been able to explain it in simple English.
(sj, 10 May 2016 11:02)


Perhaps it's because you don't understand simple English.

observer

pre 8 godina

@peggy and sasa p.

To my best knowledge, correct me if I am wrong, Serbia is the only country in the world which has a president who used to be a grave digger supervisor. I guess that is something to be very proud of, and I think it says a lot.

observer

pre 8 godina

P's Stop Lying again
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 11 May 2016 00:38)

so you want to call him 'grave digger superviser'. hahaha ... fact is that he is seen and called 'the grave digger' around the world. just google for 'Nicolc grave digger' and you will see that the BBC, New York Times, Spiegel, Observer, almost any newspaper in the world refers to your president as 'the grave digger'.

j

pre 8 godina

And your point being? He was a cemetery supervisor not a digger but even if he was a digger so what? Everyone has to start somewhere and as long as it's honest work it's all fine.


-- I agree with this.

At least he's not a career politician with a degree in law or from a union and has no real life experience. Any government could do with a few more of Nikolics who have real experience at running companies than people whose only life experience was in a lecture or as part of a union.
(Peggy, 11 May 2016 01:32)

-- I don't agree with this. A country is not a company or a union. Also intelligence and character matter. This guy leaves a lot to be desired on both of these qualities.

Servia

pre 8 godina

Does Serbia really want Kosovo? The country/region is 95% ethnic Albanian, jihadist groups and their sympathizers have infiltrated mosques, there is massive corruption, poverty and unemployment are extreme, and most of all, the majority of the people in Kosovo don't want to be part of Serbia (that number would change if Serbia joined the EU). We can argue about the causes of these problems, but they are just the plain facts. I don't know how or why Serbia would want to absorb the massive problems in Kosovo. There's no way that Serbs will be allowed to commit genocide, expel people, or even repress Albanians. It just isn't feasible. If Serbia has the ambition to join the EU, bringing Kosovo back into th fold would set them back 20 years.