Serbia blocks entry of Croatian goods as countermeasure
Starting from midnight the Serbian police are preventing Croatian goods and cargo vehicles from entering Serbia, Interior Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic announced.
ON Balkans there’s no nation with a shorter list of neighbors whom they have bad memories. Correct me if I am wrong. The only exclusion is the Albanians whom all 100% peoples on Balkans mistrust and hate. Correct me if I am wrong ! Besides Serbs were always on the Russian side while all the rest here sucked Germany. To say nothing that Serbia is the only state in the region that still have signs of independence while all the rest are raped 3 times a day. Correct me if I am wrong ! Also you all fear to meet them in a face to face war (without NATO and Russia) because the end is quite predictable. Correct me if I am wrong !
To all the idiot"s supporting Zoran and Croatia ,will get a shock when Croatia is instructed to open it's border's to Serbia ,by Croatian's Companies and by EU. A Croatian or Albania former peasant now living in the West is still a idiot/ stupid peasant.
Here you go Reader, this is from the Hungarian Foreign Minister: "I understand that the election campaign is already under way in Croatia, so I have only one request for the Croatian prime minister, and that is to leave us alone. Both Serbs and Hungarians, on this issue," said the Hungarian minister."
And these guys are supposed to be your friends. Way to go Croatia, keep isolating yourself. The rest of the world is beginning to see the true nature of the Croatian people.
Pay attention!
Top list of the nations which Serbs hate:
1. Albanians - ( 1 - oh yeah )
2. Croats
3. Bosnians
4. Hungarians
5. Montenegrins
6. Fyroms- s
Generally serbs are "lovely" people - hate "just" all their neighbors around and all the rest of the world who tell something "bad" against them - in fact.
More closed minded people i never seen i n EU!
Correct me if i'm wrong!
* And yes this is a Serbian website, and as much as you sully it first with your dirty comments - don't show to nobody else what to do...
Reader, it's time for you to get a clue. Officials from Hungary have stated that Serbia had no plan nor was there an agreement between Serbia and Hungary to direct refugees toward Croatia. The EU has criticized Croatia for their reaction to the refugee crises as have officials within Croatia.
Common sense tells you that Milanovic is not very popular with the masses in Croatia because he is not a far right-wing nationlist nut that most Croats prefer. But now that his popularity is at an all-time low, we see he has changed his tune and is employing a strong, albeit foolish policy of anti-Serbia. He realizes that the only way for him to get reelected is to move his rhetoric to the far right and adopt a strong anti-Serb position. This is clearly a self-destructive policy for Croatia as we have seen the country come to a standstill in 24 hours.
Isn't it also intersting that the EU is now talking about punishing Croatia for their actions and praising Serbia who isn't even in the EU. Your historical friends, or should I say your historical masters, the Hungarians, have said that their relations with Croatia have worsened over this issue while their relationship with Serbia has grown stronger. Too funny.
Bullwinkle did you deliberately chose that nickname when replying to Rocky's comment all because the name Rocky reminds you of that animated flying squirrel character who's got a similar name on the Rocky & Bullwinkle animated series.
This is a good article for chetnik Serbs to comment and spread hate.
I really admire Croatia, because it is the only country in the region, which can handle properly the chetnik government in Belgrade.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 24 September 2015 21:45)
The only people here spreading hate are the ustashe Croats and one pro-Ustasha Albanian. And what's to admire about Croatia? Barely one week into taking in refugees and the entire country is on the brink of collapse. Do you even know what you're talking about? I don't think so.
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
(njegos, 24 September 2015 17:40)
It is just common sense njegos, you should try it sometime. Just think about it. Hungarian police sees a lot of people entering from Serbia, what is it going to do? Tell Serbian police: "hey what are you doing? stop it". Same with Croatian police. So what is Serbia going to do? Caught between Hungary and Croatia, it is going to stick it to Croatia, because of that love for Croatia that Serbs have :). And then these are the consequences.
By the way, here is a proof that this is very close to what I said:
"He added that Croatia's blockade of the border, that stopped all cargo traffic coming from Serbia, was introduced "because Serbia has been sending refugees (from third countries) only to Croatia, in an organized manner, in agreement with Hungary."
from here:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=09&dd=24&nav_id=95546
LOL, it's a proxy war between Croatia and Hungary, Serbia is just the tool. Now if Serbia changes attitude and starts sending them to Hungary, Hungary will take measures against Serbia. Again in the middle, again the "Serbia is a bridge" metaphor comes to mind :). Good luck.
Tryagainloser : Croatia has 7 million tourists every year.
We all know that a couple of terrorists can close this branch of your economics for long 双赢的 Perhaps they won’t even ask for money so it will be as easy to do as to replace the last letter in word “has”… Especially now that we have two still unrevenged wars already … I guess you know that VENDETTA sounds ПОГРОМ both in Russian and Serbian.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys,
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Now I have heard it all, the migrant problem started with the Kosovo Albanians seeking asylum by first crossing through Serbia into Hungary. Of course, Italy has been dealing with illegal Albanian migration for three decades now.
Do all of Europe a favor and lobby the Albanian minister to seal the borders.
I believe Serbia is getting a lot of respect around the world, and investors are looking at it seriously. So the Croats, out of envy, try to throw a spanner in the works, but didn't think through the consequences.
They blame Serbia for colluding with Hungary to send migrants to Croatia. Hungary built a wall!! Hello!! The migrants themselves decided to go west instead to Croatia. Now Serbia is to be blamed for hungarys wall, which they are also building against Croatia.
you couldn't make this nonsense up. Of course elections play their part, and there you go, years of effort of trying to find some understanding, gone.
I hope the grown ups get involved, soon.
rocky serbia has already tried to redirect these poor refugees towards kosovo and albania, and even war-battered syrian refugees don't want to go there. they'd prefer to stay in serbia than go to kosovo. they'd rather go to eu than stay in kosovo, just like the hundreds of thousands of kosovars that have tried to escape disney-balkans.
and lenny, lenny, lenny.
why would a business owner pay his staff more than he has to. if these croat business owners were smart like you and hadn't moved those businesses to serbia where they pay far less in labour costs they'd be living in their mom's basements too. money over blood 49/50 times. over and over again.
From Reader: "I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border."
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia!
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Don't flatter yourself Rocks. The refugees are trying to escape misery and poverty, not run towards it. Keep your borders, official and fake, open. No one's even bothering moving towards them. Rather, Albanians are probably hiding among the refugees trying to get away too.
Hey Lenny, your refugee relatives must be sad that the Croat gov't. isn't allowing new refugees into the country. Afterall, you know the saying: 'misery loves company.' Have your relatives gotten out of that cardboard box they were living in on a Zagreb street? By straining relations with Serbs, it will be a long, long time before your family will be able to even visit their former home in Republika Srpska. Hope they're getting used to their refugee status because they ain't going home...ever! Chew on that Lenny boy.
Serbia had to weigh in which route is more important for them the north towards Hungary, Austria, Germany or Croatia, Slovenia, Austria. Only one of them could be kept open. So they decided the northern route is more important. Not to mention Vojvodina - which plays a major role in the Serbian export economy – needs a rest from the turmoil. Just remember before Hungary blocked the Serbian-Hungarian border, the immigrants were all over the place. They were walking on and blocking the Hungarian M5, M1 autobahn (what is the most important for Serbia), Austria was checking each vehicles at its border. Look now, traffic is flowing freely uninterrupted from Serbia towards the west via Hungary.You have to give and take.
To alot of people that don't even live in the Balkans, know that Croatia sell majority of there milk to Serbia. They have a chain of supermarkets called IDEA ,which belongs to Croatia company that sell in every city in Serbia.That sell alot of deep salt water seafood to Serbia .Sell petrol to Serbia truck's and car's in transit ,with highway toal's.Croatia sell chocolates and biscuits to Serbia ,the list goes on etc etc.
So to the idiot's in the West that think Croatia will not shot it self in the foot,think twice.
Companies in Croatia in Milk,Food(Idea Supermarkets), Seafood's, Chocolates, and Biscuits .That is just the beginning of who suffer's.Their are still alot more thing's sold like Croatian olives,cooking oil's,even alcohol.
If you live in Serbia ,you see the item's sold,but sit in the West and write crap and shit,you won't.
There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
I don't see how this has any connection to the article or to the issue of border closings, but if you feel better getting that off your chest because you've got nothing else to add, then ok....
I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border.
To Rocky,
Have you heard 5% of your population have left for Germany and Sweden. You lost 100,000 people from just Kosovo,and not counting how many left Albania. Why are they leaving NATO Paradise, and why aren't the refugees not heading to NATO Paradise (Kosovo,Albania)?You are the same religion!Sweden,Germany ,northern Europe are Protestant's. The refugees would feel save in a country with Muslim's and Catholic's ,not in a Protestant's countries.
Vucic sent them to region's of Kosovo and ,Albania
To your Paradise Rocky
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step.
Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway.
And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
(Ari Gold, 24 September 2015)
How many is most? 51%? 90%
How many Croatian owned businesses are there in Serbia?
Do you have a source for your claims or did you pull this estimate from your arse?
Croatia depends more on Serbian markets than Serbia depends on Croatian. You can't find any Serbian products in Croatian stores, but Serbian stores are full of Croatian products. No wonder Croatia is upset since their economy depends on Serbia. They should have thought about this before they closed the border. Too bad. Now Croats can't sell cheap Podravka junk.
Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
(Lenard, 24 September 2015 10:55
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Really Lenny? Is that why this has happened?
Also yesterday, the Croatian Chamber of Economy asked the country's government to open the border "in order to prevent a catastrophic outcome for the Croatian economy, which is already on its knees."
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Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
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Where has your mind wondered off to?
its very easy to take a knee jerk reaction to the emerging humanitarian crisis that involves hundreds of thousands of people who have faced and are facing extreme and dire personal trauma and hardship. These people need your help not your hatred. If you can sit there looking at endless repeated new clips of children being tear gassed and shot with water cannon, sleeping in a muddy field between barbed wire border fences and not be moved then you truly are a very sick person. Its very easy to sit there troll wanking over your computer when someone mentions Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Albania and the wars and horrors that selfish politicians and greedy power hungry people created and that you and every other good person of the Balkans are victims of.
The blame game serves no practical or rational purpose to the unfolding human tragedy that is once again unfolding in the Region.
Refill your empty balls and go ask your politicians from what every country you come from to get a grip of this situation by talking rationally and constructively with their counterparts from their neighbor countries.
It's about time. Really, this should have happened after Croatia celebrated its genocide a month ago and by now the damage would have been obvious. Croatia's companies absolutely depend on Serbia as their largest export market. The longer this standoff continues, the more that Croatian commerce suffers. And it should, because fascism must always be confronted.
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step. Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway. And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
Looks like the new route for refugees will now be through BiH. Republika Srpska will obviously not close border crossings with Serbia and the refugees can then go all the way to the Croatian border within the federation (i.e, where Croats form a majority). I wonder if Croatia will then ban Croats from BiH to enter Croatia?
The mess NATO/US/EU created is splitting Europe and the EU continues to fall apart. Putin must have a huge smile on his face right now.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia! Serbia has always used dirty tactics to try and cause turmoil & instability in neighboring county's! while Serbia doesn't share a border with Albania, the borders of Albania should be fortufied with Macedonia & Greece! And if Serbia does try this tactic with Kosova & Albania, then both country's should also ban any & all Serbian goods from entering their country's as well! it is time for Serbia to realize that she is not the one that dictates policy's in the Balkans!
(Zoran, 24 September 2015 10:09) Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
Operation stack has started. This is good news, Croatia's economy will grind to a halt. The EU's fascist little child is having a tantrum.
Serbia needs to start thinking of alternative economies, such as that of Russia. Taking its lead, it is now aligning itself more and more with Asia and disconnecting itself from Europe. The EU is a mess and if this continues, we'll all see the UK exit when the referendum comes. Anything to delay the start of opening chapters is also good news for Serbia.
I feel sorry that countries are now arguing because of the migrant problem. The problem has been made worse by Germany inviting them all to go there. Why does Serbia allow all the migrants to travel from Greece through their country without proper controls? E U policy on migration has failed miserably.
The Croats are purposely escalating this issue - they cry they can't handle their Frau Merkel's self created pull for millions of asylum seekers from western created mess in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan and attack Serbia for allowing these people through while EU country Greece are pushing through from south!
Who will back down first ? That is going to be interesting and frankly the longer this goes on it will make SNS re-evaluate the the DS continued strategy of "EU is the only solution".
High time Serbia gets on with real reforms in Serbia's best interest and really actions & implements substantive anti-corruption, anti-bureaucratic and pro-growth pro-Serbian reform that includes strong anti-competive stance of the food retail industry! The EU is likely to not open any chapters given their pussy footing over Croatia's violation regards border crossing this last week. You can bet your bottom dollar the Croat's will do their utmost to block opening of chapters. Perhaps this was their intention all along?
O no Dodo of "Srpska" in occupied Bosnia hasn't been fed in 5 days the hunger pains must be overwhelmingly excruciating. Maybe Serbia can fly in on military transports some food for Dodo and the cute Serbs. In the 12 military Air transports Serbia stole from the Ex Yugo republics. O I forgot none of them are working Serbia ran every one of them in to the ground pity. Their goes one of the last friends of Serbs darn no one to play with Serbs.
The Croats are purposely escalating this issue - they cry they can't handle their Frau Merkel's self created pull for millions of asylum seekers from western created mess in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan and attack Serbia for allowing these people through while EU country Greece are pushing through from south!
Who will back down first ? That is going to be interesting and frankly the longer this goes on it will make SNS re-evaluate the the DS continued strategy of "EU is the only solution".
High time Serbia gets on with real reforms in Serbia's best interest and really actions & implements substantive anti-corruption, anti-bureaucratic and pro-growth pro-Serbian reform that includes strong anti-competive stance of the food retail industry! The EU is likely to not open any chapters given their pussy footing over Croatia's violation regards border crossing this last week. You can bet your bottom dollar the Croat's will do their utmost to block opening of chapters. Perhaps this was their intention all along?
Operation stack has started. This is good news, Croatia's economy will grind to a halt. The EU's fascist little child is having a tantrum.
Serbia needs to start thinking of alternative economies, such as that of Russia. Taking its lead, it is now aligning itself more and more with Asia and disconnecting itself from Europe. The EU is a mess and if this continues, we'll all see the UK exit when the referendum comes. Anything to delay the start of opening chapters is also good news for Serbia.
It's about time. Really, this should have happened after Croatia celebrated its genocide a month ago and by now the damage would have been obvious. Croatia's companies absolutely depend on Serbia as their largest export market. The longer this standoff continues, the more that Croatian commerce suffers. And it should, because fascism must always be confronted.
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step. Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway. And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
Croatia depends more on Serbian markets than Serbia depends on Croatian. You can't find any Serbian products in Croatian stores, but Serbian stores are full of Croatian products. No wonder Croatia is upset since their economy depends on Serbia. They should have thought about this before they closed the border. Too bad. Now Croats can't sell cheap Podravka junk.
Looks like the new route for refugees will now be through BiH. Republika Srpska will obviously not close border crossings with Serbia and the refugees can then go all the way to the Croatian border within the federation (i.e, where Croats form a majority). I wonder if Croatia will then ban Croats from BiH to enter Croatia?
The mess NATO/US/EU created is splitting Europe and the EU continues to fall apart. Putin must have a huge smile on his face right now.
To Rocky,
Have you heard 5% of your population have left for Germany and Sweden. You lost 100,000 people from just Kosovo,and not counting how many left Albania. Why are they leaving NATO Paradise, and why aren't the refugees not heading to NATO Paradise (Kosovo,Albania)?You are the same religion!Sweden,Germany ,northern Europe are Protestant's. The refugees would feel save in a country with Muslim's and Catholic's ,not in a Protestant's countries.
Vucic sent them to region's of Kosovo and ,Albania
To your Paradise Rocky
There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
I don't see how this has any connection to the article or to the issue of border closings, but if you feel better getting that off your chest because you've got nothing else to add, then ok....
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys,
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Now I have heard it all, the migrant problem started with the Kosovo Albanians seeking asylum by first crossing through Serbia into Hungary. Of course, Italy has been dealing with illegal Albanian migration for three decades now.
Do all of Europe a favor and lobby the Albanian minister to seal the borders.
To alot of people that don't even live in the Balkans, know that Croatia sell majority of there milk to Serbia. They have a chain of supermarkets called IDEA ,which belongs to Croatia company that sell in every city in Serbia.That sell alot of deep salt water seafood to Serbia .Sell petrol to Serbia truck's and car's in transit ,with highway toal's.Croatia sell chocolates and biscuits to Serbia ,the list goes on etc etc.
So to the idiot's in the West that think Croatia will not shot it self in the foot,think twice.
Companies in Croatia in Milk,Food(Idea Supermarkets), Seafood's, Chocolates, and Biscuits .That is just the beginning of who suffer's.Their are still alot more thing's sold like Croatian olives,cooking oil's,even alcohol.
If you live in Serbia ,you see the item's sold,but sit in the West and write crap and shit,you won't.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia! Serbia has always used dirty tactics to try and cause turmoil & instability in neighboring county's! while Serbia doesn't share a border with Albania, the borders of Albania should be fortufied with Macedonia & Greece! And if Serbia does try this tactic with Kosova & Albania, then both country's should also ban any & all Serbian goods from entering their country's as well! it is time for Serbia to realize that she is not the one that dictates policy's in the Balkans!
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia!
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Don't flatter yourself Rocks. The refugees are trying to escape misery and poverty, not run towards it. Keep your borders, official and fake, open. No one's even bothering moving towards them. Rather, Albanians are probably hiding among the refugees trying to get away too.
I believe Serbia is getting a lot of respect around the world, and investors are looking at it seriously. So the Croats, out of envy, try to throw a spanner in the works, but didn't think through the consequences.
They blame Serbia for colluding with Hungary to send migrants to Croatia. Hungary built a wall!! Hello!! The migrants themselves decided to go west instead to Croatia. Now Serbia is to be blamed for hungarys wall, which they are also building against Croatia.
you couldn't make this nonsense up. Of course elections play their part, and there you go, years of effort of trying to find some understanding, gone.
I hope the grown ups get involved, soon.
This is a good article for chetnik Serbs to comment and spread hate.
I really admire Croatia, because it is the only country in the region, which can handle properly the chetnik government in Belgrade.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 24 September 2015 21:45)
The only people here spreading hate are the ustashe Croats and one pro-Ustasha Albanian. And what's to admire about Croatia? Barely one week into taking in refugees and the entire country is on the brink of collapse. Do you even know what you're talking about? I don't think so.
Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
(Lenard, 24 September 2015 10:55
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Really Lenny? Is that why this has happened?
Also yesterday, the Croatian Chamber of Economy asked the country's government to open the border "in order to prevent a catastrophic outcome for the Croatian economy, which is already on its knees."
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Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
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Where has your mind wondered off to?
O no Dodo of "Srpska" in occupied Bosnia hasn't been fed in 5 days the hunger pains must be overwhelmingly excruciating. Maybe Serbia can fly in on military transports some food for Dodo and the cute Serbs. In the 12 military Air transports Serbia stole from the Ex Yugo republics. O I forgot none of them are working Serbia ran every one of them in to the ground pity. Their goes one of the last friends of Serbs darn no one to play with Serbs.
(Zoran, 24 September 2015 10:09) Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
rocky serbia has already tried to redirect these poor refugees towards kosovo and albania, and even war-battered syrian refugees don't want to go there. they'd prefer to stay in serbia than go to kosovo. they'd rather go to eu than stay in kosovo, just like the hundreds of thousands of kosovars that have tried to escape disney-balkans.
and lenny, lenny, lenny.
why would a business owner pay his staff more than he has to. if these croat business owners were smart like you and hadn't moved those businesses to serbia where they pay far less in labour costs they'd be living in their mom's basements too. money over blood 49/50 times. over and over again.
I feel sorry that countries are now arguing because of the migrant problem. The problem has been made worse by Germany inviting them all to go there. Why does Serbia allow all the migrants to travel from Greece through their country without proper controls? E U policy on migration has failed miserably.
From Reader: "I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border."
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step.
Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway.
And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
(Ari Gold, 24 September 2015)
How many is most? 51%? 90%
How many Croatian owned businesses are there in Serbia?
Do you have a source for your claims or did you pull this estimate from your arse?
Hey Lenny, your refugee relatives must be sad that the Croat gov't. isn't allowing new refugees into the country. Afterall, you know the saying: 'misery loves company.' Have your relatives gotten out of that cardboard box they were living in on a Zagreb street? By straining relations with Serbs, it will be a long, long time before your family will be able to even visit their former home in Republika Srpska. Hope they're getting used to their refugee status because they ain't going home...ever! Chew on that Lenny boy.
its very easy to take a knee jerk reaction to the emerging humanitarian crisis that involves hundreds of thousands of people who have faced and are facing extreme and dire personal trauma and hardship. These people need your help not your hatred. If you can sit there looking at endless repeated new clips of children being tear gassed and shot with water cannon, sleeping in a muddy field between barbed wire border fences and not be moved then you truly are a very sick person. Its very easy to sit there troll wanking over your computer when someone mentions Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Albania and the wars and horrors that selfish politicians and greedy power hungry people created and that you and every other good person of the Balkans are victims of.
The blame game serves no practical or rational purpose to the unfolding human tragedy that is once again unfolding in the Region.
Refill your empty balls and go ask your politicians from what every country you come from to get a grip of this situation by talking rationally and constructively with their counterparts from their neighbor countries.
Pay attention!
Top list of the nations which Serbs hate:
1. Albanians - ( 1 - oh yeah )
2. Croats
3. Bosnians
4. Hungarians
5. Montenegrins
6. Fyroms- s
Generally serbs are "lovely" people - hate "just" all their neighbors around and all the rest of the world who tell something "bad" against them - in fact.
More closed minded people i never seen i n EU!
Correct me if i'm wrong!
* And yes this is a Serbian website, and as much as you sully it first with your dirty comments - don't show to nobody else what to do...
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
(njegos, 24 September 2015 17:40)
It is just common sense njegos, you should try it sometime. Just think about it. Hungarian police sees a lot of people entering from Serbia, what is it going to do? Tell Serbian police: "hey what are you doing? stop it". Same with Croatian police. So what is Serbia going to do? Caught between Hungary and Croatia, it is going to stick it to Croatia, because of that love for Croatia that Serbs have :). And then these are the consequences.
By the way, here is a proof that this is very close to what I said:
"He added that Croatia's blockade of the border, that stopped all cargo traffic coming from Serbia, was introduced "because Serbia has been sending refugees (from third countries) only to Croatia, in an organized manner, in agreement with Hungary."
from here:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=09&dd=24&nav_id=95546
LOL, it's a proxy war between Croatia and Hungary, Serbia is just the tool. Now if Serbia changes attitude and starts sending them to Hungary, Hungary will take measures against Serbia. Again in the middle, again the "Serbia is a bridge" metaphor comes to mind :). Good luck.
Tryagainloser : Croatia has 7 million tourists every year.
We all know that a couple of terrorists can close this branch of your economics for long 双赢的 Perhaps they won’t even ask for money so it will be as easy to do as to replace the last letter in word “has”… Especially now that we have two still unrevenged wars already … I guess you know that VENDETTA sounds ПОГРОМ both in Russian and Serbian.
Here you go Reader, this is from the Hungarian Foreign Minister: "I understand that the election campaign is already under way in Croatia, so I have only one request for the Croatian prime minister, and that is to leave us alone. Both Serbs and Hungarians, on this issue," said the Hungarian minister."
And these guys are supposed to be your friends. Way to go Croatia, keep isolating yourself. The rest of the world is beginning to see the true nature of the Croatian people.
I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border.
Reader, it's time for you to get a clue. Officials from Hungary have stated that Serbia had no plan nor was there an agreement between Serbia and Hungary to direct refugees toward Croatia. The EU has criticized Croatia for their reaction to the refugee crises as have officials within Croatia.
Common sense tells you that Milanovic is not very popular with the masses in Croatia because he is not a far right-wing nationlist nut that most Croats prefer. But now that his popularity is at an all-time low, we see he has changed his tune and is employing a strong, albeit foolish policy of anti-Serbia. He realizes that the only way for him to get reelected is to move his rhetoric to the far right and adopt a strong anti-Serb position. This is clearly a self-destructive policy for Croatia as we have seen the country come to a standstill in 24 hours.
Isn't it also intersting that the EU is now talking about punishing Croatia for their actions and praising Serbia who isn't even in the EU. Your historical friends, or should I say your historical masters, the Hungarians, have said that their relations with Croatia have worsened over this issue while their relationship with Serbia has grown stronger. Too funny.
To all the idiot"s supporting Zoran and Croatia ,will get a shock when Croatia is instructed to open it's border's to Serbia ,by Croatian's Companies and by EU. A Croatian or Albania former peasant now living in the West is still a idiot/ stupid peasant.
ON Balkans there’s no nation with a shorter list of neighbors whom they have bad memories. Correct me if I am wrong. The only exclusion is the Albanians whom all 100% peoples on Balkans mistrust and hate. Correct me if I am wrong ! Besides Serbs were always on the Russian side while all the rest here sucked Germany. To say nothing that Serbia is the only state in the region that still have signs of independence while all the rest are raped 3 times a day. Correct me if I am wrong ! Also you all fear to meet them in a face to face war (without NATO and Russia) because the end is quite predictable. Correct me if I am wrong !
Serbia had to weigh in which route is more important for them the north towards Hungary, Austria, Germany or Croatia, Slovenia, Austria. Only one of them could be kept open. So they decided the northern route is more important. Not to mention Vojvodina - which plays a major role in the Serbian export economy – needs a rest from the turmoil. Just remember before Hungary blocked the Serbian-Hungarian border, the immigrants were all over the place. They were walking on and blocking the Hungarian M5, M1 autobahn (what is the most important for Serbia), Austria was checking each vehicles at its border. Look now, traffic is flowing freely uninterrupted from Serbia towards the west via Hungary.You have to give and take.
Bullwinkle did you deliberately chose that nickname when replying to Rocky's comment all because the name Rocky reminds you of that animated flying squirrel character who's got a similar name on the Rocky & Bullwinkle animated series.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia! Serbia has always used dirty tactics to try and cause turmoil & instability in neighboring county's! while Serbia doesn't share a border with Albania, the borders of Albania should be fortufied with Macedonia & Greece! And if Serbia does try this tactic with Kosova & Albania, then both country's should also ban any & all Serbian goods from entering their country's as well! it is time for Serbia to realize that she is not the one that dictates policy's in the Balkans!
O no Dodo of "Srpska" in occupied Bosnia hasn't been fed in 5 days the hunger pains must be overwhelmingly excruciating. Maybe Serbia can fly in on military transports some food for Dodo and the cute Serbs. In the 12 military Air transports Serbia stole from the Ex Yugo republics. O I forgot none of them are working Serbia ran every one of them in to the ground pity. Their goes one of the last friends of Serbs darn no one to play with Serbs.
Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(Zoran, 24 September 2015 10:09) Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border.
The Croats are purposely escalating this issue - they cry they can't handle their Frau Merkel's self created pull for millions of asylum seekers from western created mess in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan and attack Serbia for allowing these people through while EU country Greece are pushing through from south!
Who will back down first ? That is going to be interesting and frankly the longer this goes on it will make SNS re-evaluate the the DS continued strategy of "EU is the only solution".
High time Serbia gets on with real reforms in Serbia's best interest and really actions & implements substantive anti-corruption, anti-bureaucratic and pro-growth pro-Serbian reform that includes strong anti-competive stance of the food retail industry! The EU is likely to not open any chapters given their pussy footing over Croatia's violation regards border crossing this last week. You can bet your bottom dollar the Croat's will do their utmost to block opening of chapters. Perhaps this was their intention all along?
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step.
Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway.
And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
(Ari Gold, 24 September 2015)
How many is most? 51%? 90%
How many Croatian owned businesses are there in Serbia?
Do you have a source for your claims or did you pull this estimate from your arse?
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
(njegos, 24 September 2015 17:40)
It is just common sense njegos, you should try it sometime. Just think about it. Hungarian police sees a lot of people entering from Serbia, what is it going to do? Tell Serbian police: "hey what are you doing? stop it". Same with Croatian police. So what is Serbia going to do? Caught between Hungary and Croatia, it is going to stick it to Croatia, because of that love for Croatia that Serbs have :). And then these are the consequences.
By the way, here is a proof that this is very close to what I said:
"He added that Croatia's blockade of the border, that stopped all cargo traffic coming from Serbia, was introduced "because Serbia has been sending refugees (from third countries) only to Croatia, in an organized manner, in agreement with Hungary."
from here:
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=09&dd=24&nav_id=95546
LOL, it's a proxy war between Croatia and Hungary, Serbia is just the tool. Now if Serbia changes attitude and starts sending them to Hungary, Hungary will take measures against Serbia. Again in the middle, again the "Serbia is a bridge" metaphor comes to mind :). Good luck.
It's about time. Really, this should have happened after Croatia celebrated its genocide a month ago and by now the damage would have been obvious. Croatia's companies absolutely depend on Serbia as their largest export market. The longer this standoff continues, the more that Croatian commerce suffers. And it should, because fascism must always be confronted.
Boycotting Croatian owned businesses in Serbia should be the next step. Most of these companies were purchased through illicit means anyway. And they will be sold if their owners start to feel the pressure.
Tryagainloser : Croatia has 7 million tourists every year.
We all know that a couple of terrorists can close this branch of your economics for long 双赢的 Perhaps they won’t even ask for money so it will be as easy to do as to replace the last letter in word “has”… Especially now that we have two still unrevenged wars already … I guess you know that VENDETTA sounds ПОГРОМ both in Russian and Serbian.
ON Balkans there’s no nation with a shorter list of neighbors whom they have bad memories. Correct me if I am wrong. The only exclusion is the Albanians whom all 100% peoples on Balkans mistrust and hate. Correct me if I am wrong ! Besides Serbs were always on the Russian side while all the rest here sucked Germany. To say nothing that Serbia is the only state in the region that still have signs of independence while all the rest are raped 3 times a day. Correct me if I am wrong ! Also you all fear to meet them in a face to face war (without NATO and Russia) because the end is quite predictable. Correct me if I am wrong !
Zik you are cute you must be on of those cute brilliant Serbs. 100's of thousands of Serbs in Serbia depend on Croatian Co for jobs. Maybe they should pullout and bring back the jobs back to Croatia where they belong. I know labor is so cheap for them in Serbia. As the workers makes equivalent of one euro a hour in Serbia.
(Lenard, 24 September 2015 10:55
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Really Lenny? Is that why this has happened?
Also yesterday, the Croatian Chamber of Economy asked the country's government to open the border "in order to prevent a catastrophic outcome for the Croatian economy, which is already on its knees."
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Stupid serbs! This hurts you idiots more. Your corrupt greater serbian chetnik government is involved with the smuggling, this is why instead of blocking smuggling route from Macedonia, they webt back to their old Velika Srbijan lunacy. There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
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Where has your mind wondered off to?
I feel sorry that countries are now arguing because of the migrant problem. The problem has been made worse by Germany inviting them all to go there. Why does Serbia allow all the migrants to travel from Greece through their country without proper controls? E U policy on migration has failed miserably.
its very easy to take a knee jerk reaction to the emerging humanitarian crisis that involves hundreds of thousands of people who have faced and are facing extreme and dire personal trauma and hardship. These people need your help not your hatred. If you can sit there looking at endless repeated new clips of children being tear gassed and shot with water cannon, sleeping in a muddy field between barbed wire border fences and not be moved then you truly are a very sick person. Its very easy to sit there troll wanking over your computer when someone mentions Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Albania and the wars and horrors that selfish politicians and greedy power hungry people created and that you and every other good person of the Balkans are victims of.
The blame game serves no practical or rational purpose to the unfolding human tragedy that is once again unfolding in the Region.
Refill your empty balls and go ask your politicians from what every country you come from to get a grip of this situation by talking rationally and constructively with their counterparts from their neighbor countries.
Croatia depends more on Serbian markets than Serbia depends on Croatian. You can't find any Serbian products in Croatian stores, but Serbian stores are full of Croatian products. No wonder Croatia is upset since their economy depends on Serbia. They should have thought about this before they closed the border. Too bad. Now Croats can't sell cheap Podravka junk.
To Rocky,
Have you heard 5% of your population have left for Germany and Sweden. You lost 100,000 people from just Kosovo,and not counting how many left Albania. Why are they leaving NATO Paradise, and why aren't the refugees not heading to NATO Paradise (Kosovo,Albania)?You are the same religion!Sweden,Germany ,northern Europe are Protestant's. The refugees would feel save in a country with Muslim's and Catholic's ,not in a Protestant's countries.
Vucic sent them to region's of Kosovo and ,Albania
To your Paradise Rocky
From Reader: "I think Serbian officials did really do something bad to provoke such a reaction from Croatia. Probably they talked behind the scenes on how to deal with the refugees, both with Hungarian officials and Croatian officials. Hungary made a better offer, so they started pushing them towards Croatia. Maybe the deal with Croatia was only to send a certain number of people, but Serbia broke the deal (as it has many times in the past, don't trust a deal with Serb officials), and sent more. Something must have happened to cause Croatia to close the border."
Great analysis Reader. But as usual, your speculation is worth absolutely nothing. How about reining in your overactive imagination and provide some verifiable facts. If not, shut your hole! You are a dope!
Operation stack has started. This is good news, Croatia's economy will grind to a halt. The EU's fascist little child is having a tantrum.
Serbia needs to start thinking of alternative economies, such as that of Russia. Taking its lead, it is now aligning itself more and more with Asia and disconnecting itself from Europe. The EU is a mess and if this continues, we'll all see the UK exit when the referendum comes. Anything to delay the start of opening chapters is also good news for Serbia.
Looks like the new route for refugees will now be through BiH. Republika Srpska will obviously not close border crossings with Serbia and the refugees can then go all the way to the Croatian border within the federation (i.e, where Croats form a majority). I wonder if Croatia will then ban Croats from BiH to enter Croatia?
The mess NATO/US/EU created is splitting Europe and the EU continues to fall apart. Putin must have a huge smile on his face right now.
To alot of people that don't even live in the Balkans, know that Croatia sell majority of there milk to Serbia. They have a chain of supermarkets called IDEA ,which belongs to Croatia company that sell in every city in Serbia.That sell alot of deep salt water seafood to Serbia .Sell petrol to Serbia truck's and car's in transit ,with highway toal's.Croatia sell chocolates and biscuits to Serbia ,the list goes on etc etc.
So to the idiot's in the West that think Croatia will not shot it self in the foot,think twice.
Companies in Croatia in Milk,Food(Idea Supermarkets), Seafood's, Chocolates, and Biscuits .That is just the beginning of who suffer's.Their are still alot more thing's sold like Croatian olives,cooking oil's,even alcohol.
If you live in Serbia ,you see the item's sold,but sit in the West and write crap and shit,you won't.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys, as in the case of Croatia!
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Don't flatter yourself Rocks. The refugees are trying to escape misery and poverty, not run towards it. Keep your borders, official and fake, open. No one's even bothering moving towards them. Rather, Albanians are probably hiding among the refugees trying to get away too.
I believe Serbia is getting a lot of respect around the world, and investors are looking at it seriously. So the Croats, out of envy, try to throw a spanner in the works, but didn't think through the consequences.
They blame Serbia for colluding with Hungary to send migrants to Croatia. Hungary built a wall!! Hello!! The migrants themselves decided to go west instead to Croatia. Now Serbia is to be blamed for hungarys wall, which they are also building against Croatia.
you couldn't make this nonsense up. Of course elections play their part, and there you go, years of effort of trying to find some understanding, gone.
I hope the grown ups get involved, soon.
The Repubic of Albania & Kosova should fortify their borders, as Serbia may try to redirect & nfluence the migrants rowards both countrys,
(Rocky, 24 September 2015 11:05)
Now I have heard it all, the migrant problem started with the Kosovo Albanians seeking asylum by first crossing through Serbia into Hungary. Of course, Italy has been dealing with illegal Albanian migration for three decades now.
Do all of Europe a favor and lobby the Albanian minister to seal the borders.
This is a good article for chetnik Serbs to comment and spread hate.
I really admire Croatia, because it is the only country in the region, which can handle properly the chetnik government in Belgrade.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 24 September 2015 21:45)
The only people here spreading hate are the ustashe Croats and one pro-Ustasha Albanian. And what's to admire about Croatia? Barely one week into taking in refugees and the entire country is on the brink of collapse. Do you even know what you're talking about? I don't think so.
To all the idiot"s supporting Zoran and Croatia ,will get a shock when Croatia is instructed to open it's border's to Serbia ,by Croatian's Companies and by EU. A Croatian or Albania former peasant now living in the West is still a idiot/ stupid peasant.
Hey Lenny, your refugee relatives must be sad that the Croat gov't. isn't allowing new refugees into the country. Afterall, you know the saying: 'misery loves company.' Have your relatives gotten out of that cardboard box they were living in on a Zagreb street? By straining relations with Serbs, it will be a long, long time before your family will be able to even visit their former home in Republika Srpska. Hope they're getting used to their refugee status because they ain't going home...ever! Chew on that Lenny boy.
rocky serbia has already tried to redirect these poor refugees towards kosovo and albania, and even war-battered syrian refugees don't want to go there. they'd prefer to stay in serbia than go to kosovo. they'd rather go to eu than stay in kosovo, just like the hundreds of thousands of kosovars that have tried to escape disney-balkans.
and lenny, lenny, lenny.
why would a business owner pay his staff more than he has to. if these croat business owners were smart like you and hadn't moved those businesses to serbia where they pay far less in labour costs they'd be living in their mom's basements too. money over blood 49/50 times. over and over again.
Reader, it's time for you to get a clue. Officials from Hungary have stated that Serbia had no plan nor was there an agreement between Serbia and Hungary to direct refugees toward Croatia. The EU has criticized Croatia for their reaction to the refugee crises as have officials within Croatia.
Common sense tells you that Milanovic is not very popular with the masses in Croatia because he is not a far right-wing nationlist nut that most Croats prefer. But now that his popularity is at an all-time low, we see he has changed his tune and is employing a strong, albeit foolish policy of anti-Serbia. He realizes that the only way for him to get reelected is to move his rhetoric to the far right and adopt a strong anti-Serb position. This is clearly a self-destructive policy for Croatia as we have seen the country come to a standstill in 24 hours.
Isn't it also intersting that the EU is now talking about punishing Croatia for their actions and praising Serbia who isn't even in the EU. Your historical friends, or should I say your historical masters, the Hungarians, have said that their relations with Croatia have worsened over this issue while their relationship with Serbia has grown stronger. Too funny.
Here you go Reader, this is from the Hungarian Foreign Minister: "I understand that the election campaign is already under way in Croatia, so I have only one request for the Croatian prime minister, and that is to leave us alone. Both Serbs and Hungarians, on this issue," said the Hungarian minister."
And these guys are supposed to be your friends. Way to go Croatia, keep isolating yourself. The rest of the world is beginning to see the true nature of the Croatian people.
Pay attention!
Top list of the nations which Serbs hate:
1. Albanians - ( 1 - oh yeah )
2. Croats
3. Bosnians
4. Hungarians
5. Montenegrins
6. Fyroms- s
Generally serbs are "lovely" people - hate "just" all their neighbors around and all the rest of the world who tell something "bad" against them - in fact.
More closed minded people i never seen i n EU!
Correct me if i'm wrong!
* And yes this is a Serbian website, and as much as you sully it first with your dirty comments - don't show to nobody else what to do...
There will never be another Krajina republic, EVER!
(itdoughboye, 24 September 2015 13:01)
I don't see how this has any connection to the article or to the issue of border closings, but if you feel better getting that off your chest because you've got nothing else to add, then ok....
Bullwinkle did you deliberately chose that nickname when replying to Rocky's comment all because the name Rocky reminds you of that animated flying squirrel character who's got a similar name on the Rocky & Bullwinkle animated series.
Serbia had to weigh in which route is more important for them the north towards Hungary, Austria, Germany or Croatia, Slovenia, Austria. Only one of them could be kept open. So they decided the northern route is more important. Not to mention Vojvodina - which plays a major role in the Serbian export economy – needs a rest from the turmoil. Just remember before Hungary blocked the Serbian-Hungarian border, the immigrants were all over the place. They were walking on and blocking the Hungarian M5, M1 autobahn (what is the most important for Serbia), Austria was checking each vehicles at its border. Look now, traffic is flowing freely uninterrupted from Serbia towards the west via Hungary.You have to give and take.
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