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pre 9 godina
The EU will collapse within a decade
(factman, 16 September 2015 04:44)
Of course... That's what we've heard for more than a decade, decade after decade lol
Tuesday, 15.09.2015.
15:52
Ivica Dacic says Serbia finds it "unacceptable" that Hungary would send migrants back while more and more are arriving from Macedonia and Greece.
Izvor: Beta
pre 9 godina
The EU will collapse within a decade
(factman, 16 September 2015 04:44)
Of course... That's what we've heard for more than a decade, decade after decade lol
pre 9 godina
These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets.
(Leonidas, 15 September 2015 16:56)
Yeah, it is indeed very weird how neoliberal media outlets can't see the "causal" explanation since it was the US that ordered Assad or Gaddafi to slaughter their own people... How can the neoliberal media outlets not see that?!!! Brillian people like Ari Gold and Leonidas should absolutely educate the world about these "causal explanations" they have discovered!
pre 9 godina
Serbia has a housing shortage of its own.
(danked, 16 September 2015 14:13
What are you talking about! There are towns around Nis that are almost empty. There is plenty of room for refugees. It's just that Serbia is mean spirited and has a pathological hatred toward Muslims. Isn't it time for Serbia to rise above it's Medieval mentality. We already have earned a very negative image, by doing good for others will help with our public relations. Our boastful politicians, rather than talking bs publicly about how great they and Serbia are, should make an effort to help others in their hour of need.
pre 9 godina
"Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
(Marina, 16 September 2015 14:00) "
They comes from Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia because all of those countries are corrupt as hell and have very little jobs. Have you ever been to Vienna or Munich? They're like a mini Yugoslavia.
pre 9 godina
Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
pre 9 godina
Serbia once again carrying biggest burden and helping people who only abuse it. Serbia has a housing shortage of its own. Why is Vucic once again putting others first. Close all borders and let them stay in Macedonia, Hungary and Albania.
pre 9 godina
The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. [...] Now Croatia [link] is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.(Lenard, 15 September 2015 20:09)
Right. Unless Croatia should grant open transit, I'd prefer the route through the Republica Srpska, the Federation & Croatia if I was a refugee. The border between the Republica Srpska and Serbia's usually not mined. Neither's the border between Croatia and former Herceg-Bosna. It's a long way though.
pre 9 godina
Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
(Marko, 15 September 2015 19:40)
The only problem is that no other Balkan country would want to be in a union that included Serbia. Sorry, but we have learned an important lesson and that is to have nothing to do with Serbia.
pre 9 godina
The government is using this "crisis" to distract the public from their incompetence. However, they're too late, Serbs know their government is incompentent.
pre 9 godina
send them to tirana to be with their kind.
pre 9 godina
- Schengen is dead
- European Monetary Union is dead
- European unity is dead (as was exposed in this migrant crisis and Ukraine crisis)
- dovereign European debt has not been lowered and just continues until it will implode
The EU will collapse within a decade
pre 9 godina
The previous policy was to discourage illegal economic migrants. Hungary is actually using that same policy. The idea is that by backing up the people in Serbia the message will get back down the line and slow the numbers. Serbia can help that process restricting movement in the south and passing the message that the door isn't open.
There are potentially MILLIONS who may still want to try the same route. Somewhere a stop needs to be called.
NONE of those coming through Serbia are refugees - they were that when they left their own country, but since then they have moved on from their original place of safety. ALL are looking for a better economic future - and in my view it is wrong that they can just walk into Europe without due processing and acceptance by the receiving countries.
Merkle was wrong to change policy unilaterally and try to impose the solution on the rest of Europe.
In my view much more resource should be pumped into the camps in Jordan, and much more military effort should be used to stablise the criminal stupidity of this war in Syria. Putin has been keeping this war alive because he wants to keep Russian 'friends' in Syria, but IS needs to be smashed - so the West needs to accept Putin's policy about Assad (however that distasteful that may be because pragmatically that will not change) - truces and concentrations of force are needed to reestablish some kind of normalality to the area.
pre 9 godina
A 26-year old migrant enroute to Germany expressed his frustration in a recent article with Hungary's decision to close their borders after he risked the lives of his 3 wives and 4 children getting to Greece. The 800,000 migrants Germany has committed to accept will quickly grow into the millions. European - are you awake?
pre 9 godina
Its ridiculous for Hungary to return these migrants to Serbia...their point of entry was an EU country = Greece. Officially, this makes them EU migrants. Serbia is merely a facilitator. I'm with Poland, help these people in their time of need but dont grant permanent residency (asylum) automatically - Reasonable restrictions should be in place until such time EU has a cohesive plan to deal with the staggering number of migrants.
pre 9 godina
This is yet another face of a global problem: Illegal immigration away from countries pathologically overpopulated into countries with more sober population growth. Syria was a place of contest between the reproductive rates of the native Alawites and the Sunni populations. The same kind of population explosion from the Shiite has led to the Shiite takeover of Iraq.
The UN and our political leaders in the world will not face this existential threat to humanity.
It's going to get worse and blaming the US, with its own illegal immigrant infection is pointless.
Yes, the US is culpable in the current upheaval in the Middle East, but not to blame. Islam is to blame and its admirers and sympathizers. In the Americas the problem is not Islam, it is the Catholic Church and its rotten medieval authority and social policies.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
(Reader, 15 September 2015 18:48)
--
LOL! Serbians are looking after these refugees very well. They are feeding them and offering them rooms in their apartments. However, they are just passing through on their way to Western Europe.
This problem was not caused by Serbs and it is not our problem to resolve. It is the problem of those rich countries, firstly because they caused the instability and war, they created and supported the terrorists and they are now responsible for accepting the refugees who are knocking on their door, not ours.
Serbs as a whole are being very generous to these needy refugees. Much much much more generous than our neighbours, who are generally mistreating them, which I assume are orders coming from Germany.
pre 9 godina
Hungary can return them to Serbia because they came to Hungary from Serbia. If they entered Hungary from another country then that would be a different story. Serbs never say no to Arab money, that's why they have to take care of Arab refugees.
pre 9 godina
Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
(G_Jim, 15 September 2015 19:01) Well not so fast sparky. The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. Thanks to the nincompoops Serbs/Serbia. That planted the mines and conveniently "forgot" to write down where they are. Now Croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkSue24XTA is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.
pre 9 godina
The refugees are coming from European Union "Greece" to the non EU countries! It's EU's responsibility, despite the fact that we are very welcoming and EU is far from welcoming!!! Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
pre 9 godina
Basically one can expect the refugees to take the road through Croatia and Slovenia (or Bosnia->Croatia->Slovenia) now. Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
pre 9 godina
1. Why you permit them to enter in Serbia from Macedonia?
2. The hungarians procedure is corect. In Dublin regulation it is wrote that a country must send back the asylum seekers to that country where they enter, namely Serbia.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
pre 9 godina
The EU is using legal rubbish to try and avoid its responsibilities and accept these needy refugees. They are heading to Germany and not Serbia. So the cracks with EU unity continue to widen. It looks like no more Schengen as members restore border controls.
What was it someone once said here? If you can't control your border then you don't have a country any more? Good thing the UK has a decent opposition leader now. Lets hope he wins the next election. The whole western hegemonic system is falling apart. That's what happens when greed leads your path. The world will be free of this tyranny soon.
pre 9 godina
You wouldn't have had to study at an institution of higher learning to spot this one coming. A child could see that a bottleneck was being created. And now the bottle has a cork in it: Serbia. The EU and EU-MS dump their problems on you Serbia and your leaders have been sleeping.
pre 9 godina
They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets. And of course the crisis is bound to continue if the policy of regime change and subsequent military intervention continues.The west's penchant for military intervention has back-fired and left it with an insuperable problem of dealing with tens of thousands of deracinated souls, the Wretched of the Earth as Frantz Fanon once called them.
Finally please also note that after its mischief making the US can sit back on the other side of the pond and let the Europeans deal with the mess. Our foreign policy, your problem
pre 9 godina
It is a failed US Middle East policy which is chiefly at fault. They should plane the refugees to Washington as well as to the capitals Ari listed.
pre 9 godina
Serbia, Greece & Hungary should take a united stance that these people shouldn't be in eastern Europe for more than a couple of days. They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from, it certainly wasn't Serbia that destabilized that region.
While every country surrounding Serbia knows full well that they did not cause the crisis to begin with, only Serbia's government is volunteering to share the burden. To bail out countries that were the focal point of NATO's aggression towards Serbia.
Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.
pre 9 godina
Serbia, Greece & Hungary should take a united stance that these people shouldn't be in eastern Europe for more than a couple of days. They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from, it certainly wasn't Serbia that destabilized that region.
While every country surrounding Serbia knows full well that they did not cause the crisis to begin with, only Serbia's government is volunteering to share the burden. To bail out countries that were the focal point of NATO's aggression towards Serbia.
Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.
pre 9 godina
It is a failed US Middle East policy which is chiefly at fault. They should plane the refugees to Washington as well as to the capitals Ari listed.
pre 9 godina
They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets. And of course the crisis is bound to continue if the policy of regime change and subsequent military intervention continues.The west's penchant for military intervention has back-fired and left it with an insuperable problem of dealing with tens of thousands of deracinated souls, the Wretched of the Earth as Frantz Fanon once called them.
Finally please also note that after its mischief making the US can sit back on the other side of the pond and let the Europeans deal with the mess. Our foreign policy, your problem
pre 9 godina
You wouldn't have had to study at an institution of higher learning to spot this one coming. A child could see that a bottleneck was being created. And now the bottle has a cork in it: Serbia. The EU and EU-MS dump their problems on you Serbia and your leaders have been sleeping.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
(Reader, 15 September 2015 18:48)
--
LOL! Serbians are looking after these refugees very well. They are feeding them and offering them rooms in their apartments. However, they are just passing through on their way to Western Europe.
This problem was not caused by Serbs and it is not our problem to resolve. It is the problem of those rich countries, firstly because they caused the instability and war, they created and supported the terrorists and they are now responsible for accepting the refugees who are knocking on their door, not ours.
Serbs as a whole are being very generous to these needy refugees. Much much much more generous than our neighbours, who are generally mistreating them, which I assume are orders coming from Germany.
pre 9 godina
Its ridiculous for Hungary to return these migrants to Serbia...their point of entry was an EU country = Greece. Officially, this makes them EU migrants. Serbia is merely a facilitator. I'm with Poland, help these people in their time of need but dont grant permanent residency (asylum) automatically - Reasonable restrictions should be in place until such time EU has a cohesive plan to deal with the staggering number of migrants.
pre 9 godina
The refugees are coming from European Union "Greece" to the non EU countries! It's EU's responsibility, despite the fact that we are very welcoming and EU is far from welcoming!!! Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
pre 9 godina
The EU is using legal rubbish to try and avoid its responsibilities and accept these needy refugees. They are heading to Germany and not Serbia. So the cracks with EU unity continue to widen. It looks like no more Schengen as members restore border controls.
What was it someone once said here? If you can't control your border then you don't have a country any more? Good thing the UK has a decent opposition leader now. Lets hope he wins the next election. The whole western hegemonic system is falling apart. That's what happens when greed leads your path. The world will be free of this tyranny soon.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
pre 9 godina
1. Why you permit them to enter in Serbia from Macedonia?
2. The hungarians procedure is corect. In Dublin regulation it is wrote that a country must send back the asylum seekers to that country where they enter, namely Serbia.
pre 9 godina
Hungary can return them to Serbia because they came to Hungary from Serbia. If they entered Hungary from another country then that would be a different story. Serbs never say no to Arab money, that's why they have to take care of Arab refugees.
pre 9 godina
Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
(Marko, 15 September 2015 19:40)
The only problem is that no other Balkan country would want to be in a union that included Serbia. Sorry, but we have learned an important lesson and that is to have nothing to do with Serbia.
pre 9 godina
Basically one can expect the refugees to take the road through Croatia and Slovenia (or Bosnia->Croatia->Slovenia) now. Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
pre 9 godina
Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
(G_Jim, 15 September 2015 19:01) Well not so fast sparky. The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. Thanks to the nincompoops Serbs/Serbia. That planted the mines and conveniently "forgot" to write down where they are. Now Croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkSue24XTA is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.
pre 9 godina
This is yet another face of a global problem: Illegal immigration away from countries pathologically overpopulated into countries with more sober population growth. Syria was a place of contest between the reproductive rates of the native Alawites and the Sunni populations. The same kind of population explosion from the Shiite has led to the Shiite takeover of Iraq.
The UN and our political leaders in the world will not face this existential threat to humanity.
It's going to get worse and blaming the US, with its own illegal immigrant infection is pointless.
Yes, the US is culpable in the current upheaval in the Middle East, but not to blame. Islam is to blame and its admirers and sympathizers. In the Americas the problem is not Islam, it is the Catholic Church and its rotten medieval authority and social policies.
pre 9 godina
- Schengen is dead
- European Monetary Union is dead
- European unity is dead (as was exposed in this migrant crisis and Ukraine crisis)
- dovereign European debt has not been lowered and just continues until it will implode
The EU will collapse within a decade
pre 9 godina
send them to tirana to be with their kind.
pre 9 godina
A 26-year old migrant enroute to Germany expressed his frustration in a recent article with Hungary's decision to close their borders after he risked the lives of his 3 wives and 4 children getting to Greece. The 800,000 migrants Germany has committed to accept will quickly grow into the millions. European - are you awake?
pre 9 godina
The previous policy was to discourage illegal economic migrants. Hungary is actually using that same policy. The idea is that by backing up the people in Serbia the message will get back down the line and slow the numbers. Serbia can help that process restricting movement in the south and passing the message that the door isn't open.
There are potentially MILLIONS who may still want to try the same route. Somewhere a stop needs to be called.
NONE of those coming through Serbia are refugees - they were that when they left their own country, but since then they have moved on from their original place of safety. ALL are looking for a better economic future - and in my view it is wrong that they can just walk into Europe without due processing and acceptance by the receiving countries.
Merkle was wrong to change policy unilaterally and try to impose the solution on the rest of Europe.
In my view much more resource should be pumped into the camps in Jordan, and much more military effort should be used to stablise the criminal stupidity of this war in Syria. Putin has been keeping this war alive because he wants to keep Russian 'friends' in Syria, but IS needs to be smashed - so the West needs to accept Putin's policy about Assad (however that distasteful that may be because pragmatically that will not change) - truces and concentrations of force are needed to reestablish some kind of normalality to the area.
pre 9 godina
Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
pre 9 godina
Serbia once again carrying biggest burden and helping people who only abuse it. Serbia has a housing shortage of its own. Why is Vucic once again putting others first. Close all borders and let them stay in Macedonia, Hungary and Albania.
pre 9 godina
The government is using this "crisis" to distract the public from their incompetence. However, they're too late, Serbs know their government is incompentent.
pre 9 godina
"Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
(Marina, 16 September 2015 14:00) "
They comes from Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia because all of those countries are corrupt as hell and have very little jobs. Have you ever been to Vienna or Munich? They're like a mini Yugoslavia.
pre 9 godina
Serbia has a housing shortage of its own.
(danked, 16 September 2015 14:13
What are you talking about! There are towns around Nis that are almost empty. There is plenty of room for refugees. It's just that Serbia is mean spirited and has a pathological hatred toward Muslims. Isn't it time for Serbia to rise above it's Medieval mentality. We already have earned a very negative image, by doing good for others will help with our public relations. Our boastful politicians, rather than talking bs publicly about how great they and Serbia are, should make an effort to help others in their hour of need.
pre 9 godina
The EU will collapse within a decade
(factman, 16 September 2015 04:44)
Of course... That's what we've heard for more than a decade, decade after decade lol
pre 9 godina
These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets.
(Leonidas, 15 September 2015 16:56)
Yeah, it is indeed very weird how neoliberal media outlets can't see the "causal" explanation since it was the US that ordered Assad or Gaddafi to slaughter their own people... How can the neoliberal media outlets not see that?!!! Brillian people like Ari Gold and Leonidas should absolutely educate the world about these "causal explanations" they have discovered!
pre 9 godina
The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. [...] Now Croatia [link] is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.(Lenard, 15 September 2015 20:09)
Right. Unless Croatia should grant open transit, I'd prefer the route through the Republica Srpska, the Federation & Croatia if I was a refugee. The border between the Republica Srpska and Serbia's usually not mined. Neither's the border between Croatia and former Herceg-Bosna. It's a long way though.
pre 9 godina
Hungary can return them to Serbia because they came to Hungary from Serbia. If they entered Hungary from another country then that would be a different story. Serbs never say no to Arab money, that's why they have to take care of Arab refugees.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
pre 9 godina
Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
(G_Jim, 15 September 2015 19:01) Well not so fast sparky. The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. Thanks to the nincompoops Serbs/Serbia. That planted the mines and conveniently "forgot" to write down where they are. Now Croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkSue24XTA is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.
pre 9 godina
Serbia, Greece & Hungary should take a united stance that these people shouldn't be in eastern Europe for more than a couple of days. They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from, it certainly wasn't Serbia that destabilized that region.
While every country surrounding Serbia knows full well that they did not cause the crisis to begin with, only Serbia's government is volunteering to share the burden. To bail out countries that were the focal point of NATO's aggression towards Serbia.
Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors.
pre 9 godina
send them to tirana to be with their kind.
pre 9 godina
Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
(Marko, 15 September 2015 19:40)
The only problem is that no other Balkan country would want to be in a union that included Serbia. Sorry, but we have learned an important lesson and that is to have nothing to do with Serbia.
pre 9 godina
They should be put on airplanes and flown to Paris, Berlin, Brussels and London. These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets. And of course the crisis is bound to continue if the policy of regime change and subsequent military intervention continues.The west's penchant for military intervention has back-fired and left it with an insuperable problem of dealing with tens of thousands of deracinated souls, the Wretched of the Earth as Frantz Fanon once called them.
Finally please also note that after its mischief making the US can sit back on the other side of the pond and let the Europeans deal with the mess. Our foreign policy, your problem
pre 9 godina
This is yet another face of a global problem: Illegal immigration away from countries pathologically overpopulated into countries with more sober population growth. Syria was a place of contest between the reproductive rates of the native Alawites and the Sunni populations. The same kind of population explosion from the Shiite has led to the Shiite takeover of Iraq.
The UN and our political leaders in the world will not face this existential threat to humanity.
It's going to get worse and blaming the US, with its own illegal immigrant infection is pointless.
Yes, the US is culpable in the current upheaval in the Middle East, but not to blame. Islam is to blame and its admirers and sympathizers. In the Americas the problem is not Islam, it is the Catholic Church and its rotten medieval authority and social policies.
pre 9 godina
Serbia once again carrying biggest burden and helping people who only abuse it. Serbia has a housing shortage of its own. Why is Vucic once again putting others first. Close all borders and let them stay in Macedonia, Hungary and Albania.
pre 9 godina
It is a failed US Middle East policy which is chiefly at fault. They should plane the refugees to Washington as well as to the capitals Ari listed.
pre 9 godina
So the fairy tale of Serbia being a paradise for refugees and how nice it was behaving with respect to the other EU countries lasted only a week.
(Reader, 15 September 2015 18:48)
--
LOL! Serbians are looking after these refugees very well. They are feeding them and offering them rooms in their apartments. However, they are just passing through on their way to Western Europe.
This problem was not caused by Serbs and it is not our problem to resolve. It is the problem of those rich countries, firstly because they caused the instability and war, they created and supported the terrorists and they are now responsible for accepting the refugees who are knocking on their door, not ours.
Serbs as a whole are being very generous to these needy refugees. Much much much more generous than our neighbours, who are generally mistreating them, which I assume are orders coming from Germany.
pre 9 godina
The EU is using legal rubbish to try and avoid its responsibilities and accept these needy refugees. They are heading to Germany and not Serbia. So the cracks with EU unity continue to widen. It looks like no more Schengen as members restore border controls.
What was it someone once said here? If you can't control your border then you don't have a country any more? Good thing the UK has a decent opposition leader now. Lets hope he wins the next election. The whole western hegemonic system is falling apart. That's what happens when greed leads your path. The world will be free of this tyranny soon.
pre 9 godina
Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
pre 9 godina
You wouldn't have had to study at an institution of higher learning to spot this one coming. A child could see that a bottleneck was being created. And now the bottle has a cork in it: Serbia. The EU and EU-MS dump their problems on you Serbia and your leaders have been sleeping.
pre 9 godina
1. Why you permit them to enter in Serbia from Macedonia?
2. The hungarians procedure is corect. In Dublin regulation it is wrote that a country must send back the asylum seekers to that country where they enter, namely Serbia.
pre 9 godina
Serbia has a housing shortage of its own.
(danked, 16 September 2015 14:13
What are you talking about! There are towns around Nis that are almost empty. There is plenty of room for refugees. It's just that Serbia is mean spirited and has a pathological hatred toward Muslims. Isn't it time for Serbia to rise above it's Medieval mentality. We already have earned a very negative image, by doing good for others will help with our public relations. Our boastful politicians, rather than talking bs publicly about how great they and Serbia are, should make an effort to help others in their hour of need.
pre 9 godina
Basically one can expect the refugees to take the road through Croatia and Slovenia (or Bosnia->Croatia->Slovenia) now. Neither the border between Serbia and the Republica Srpska nor the border between the Federation and Croatia are particularly well guarded. Crossing the southern part of the border between Serbia and Croatia's not all that difficult either.
pre 9 godina
The refugees are coming from European Union "Greece" to the non EU countries! It's EU's responsibility, despite the fact that we are very welcoming and EU is far from welcoming!!! Balkan countries want to join EU, what a tragedy! Balkan should create their own UNION, PERIOD!
pre 9 godina
Its ridiculous for Hungary to return these migrants to Serbia...their point of entry was an EU country = Greece. Officially, this makes them EU migrants. Serbia is merely a facilitator. I'm with Poland, help these people in their time of need but dont grant permanent residency (asylum) automatically - Reasonable restrictions should be in place until such time EU has a cohesive plan to deal with the staggering number of migrants.
pre 9 godina
- Schengen is dead
- European Monetary Union is dead
- European unity is dead (as was exposed in this migrant crisis and Ukraine crisis)
- dovereign European debt has not been lowered and just continues until it will implode
The EU will collapse within a decade
pre 9 godina
The border between Croatians the incorrigible Serbs is mined. [...] Now Croatia [link] is also deploying thousands of troops on the borders with the incorrigible Serbs.(Lenard, 15 September 2015 20:09)
Right. Unless Croatia should grant open transit, I'd prefer the route through the Republica Srpska, the Federation & Croatia if I was a refugee. The border between the Republica Srpska and Serbia's usually not mined. Neither's the border between Croatia and former Herceg-Bosna. It's a long way though.
pre 9 godina
The previous policy was to discourage illegal economic migrants. Hungary is actually using that same policy. The idea is that by backing up the people in Serbia the message will get back down the line and slow the numbers. Serbia can help that process restricting movement in the south and passing the message that the door isn't open.
There are potentially MILLIONS who may still want to try the same route. Somewhere a stop needs to be called.
NONE of those coming through Serbia are refugees - they were that when they left their own country, but since then they have moved on from their original place of safety. ALL are looking for a better economic future - and in my view it is wrong that they can just walk into Europe without due processing and acceptance by the receiving countries.
Merkle was wrong to change policy unilaterally and try to impose the solution on the rest of Europe.
In my view much more resource should be pumped into the camps in Jordan, and much more military effort should be used to stablise the criminal stupidity of this war in Syria. Putin has been keeping this war alive because he wants to keep Russian 'friends' in Syria, but IS needs to be smashed - so the West needs to accept Putin's policy about Assad (however that distasteful that may be because pragmatically that will not change) - truces and concentrations of force are needed to reestablish some kind of normalality to the area.
pre 9 godina
The government is using this "crisis" to distract the public from their incompetence. However, they're too late, Serbs know their government is incompentent.
pre 9 godina
"Is it true what l heard the other day, that 40% of migrants into Germany last year were from the 'Western Balkans'- l imagine they were referring to Kosovo/Albania rather than Montenegro and Corfu Island?
(Marina, 16 September 2015 14:00) "
They comes from Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and Serbia because all of those countries are corrupt as hell and have very little jobs. Have you ever been to Vienna or Munich? They're like a mini Yugoslavia.
pre 9 godina
These are the capitals where the overthrow of Gaddafi and Assad was spearheaded from
(Ari Gold, 15 September 2015 16:20)
While I agree with your posting I would also include the US -the main culprit in those wars.But you see causal explanations are taboo in neoliberal media outlets.
(Leonidas, 15 September 2015 16:56)
Yeah, it is indeed very weird how neoliberal media outlets can't see the "causal" explanation since it was the US that ordered Assad or Gaddafi to slaughter their own people... How can the neoliberal media outlets not see that?!!! Brillian people like Ari Gold and Leonidas should absolutely educate the world about these "causal explanations" they have discovered!
pre 9 godina
A 26-year old migrant enroute to Germany expressed his frustration in a recent article with Hungary's decision to close their borders after he risked the lives of his 3 wives and 4 children getting to Greece. The 800,000 migrants Germany has committed to accept will quickly grow into the millions. European - are you awake?
pre 9 godina
The EU will collapse within a decade
(factman, 16 September 2015 04:44)
Of course... That's what we've heard for more than a decade, decade after decade lol
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