Symeon
pre 8 godina
Greece and Serbia have been allies for a very long time and they will continue to be allies. They are forever Orthodox brothers!!!
Thursday, 25.06.2015.
17:03
Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic on Thursday invited his Greek counterpart Alexis Tsipras to visit Serbia.
Izvor: Tanjug
pre 8 godina
Greece and Serbia have been allies for a very long time and they will continue to be allies. They are forever Orthodox brothers!!!
pre 9 godina
In medieval period during reign of Serb tzar "Dusan the Mighty", Albanians were on the serbian side and in part of his army. Thanks to that they had settled themselves in region of norteast Greece that they claim as their own nowdays. After fall of Serbs that fought Turks 150 years (although even before serb duke Lazar it was serb kings such as Milutin that fought Turks together with Byzantinians in minor Asia)Even Skenderbeg that Albanians claim as their the greatest hero in the very beginning fought in service of turkish sultans against Serbs and Greeks. In Ottoman empire albanian muslims were privileged class. Thanks to Turks they had settled themselves in Kosovo and Metohija, Skadar valley, even all the way to central Serbia near city of Nis that as they see should be part of the so-callled "Natural Albania". They fought in Kumanovo battle (1912)together with "sick man of Europe"-Ottomans against Serbs and they lost the battle. In ww1 Serbs remeber "March of Death" through Albania 1915 and vicious attacks of albanian bands. In ww2, 1941, Albanians were given "greater Albania" thanks to fascist Italy because they were allies. In communist Yugoslavia they had state within the state. In 1990s they were proxies of the New World Order and USA hegemony. Albanians were always on the side of powerful empires against Serbs. What is the next empire they will serve?
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
(RighteousBilly, 30 June 2015 07:23)
In fact Albanians are a "stupid" proud people that never ask help from nobody, to face the "lovely" neighbors that made ally with each other and Russia against her since the WWI.
If Albania at time will make ally with US, today the Balkan will be a quiet and lovely place be sure.
All start with Kosovo in the WWI and will end with Kosovo.
And about the "Count of Kosovo", all the people here are free to express their different opinion, if you don't like it, you are free to not read it. Simple!
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015 16:37)
Now..., you are comparing Greece and Albania.
Do you know at least how many funds Greece have benefit from EU, to develop her economy, infrastructure, tourism etc..?
Do you know that Albania was a communist country, and had sanctions for a lot of time?
Do you know that Albania collapsed after the communism?
Albania start all from zero...
And do you know where Albania is right now? I must tell to you my dear Gotsefromohrid: in the same ( sh..t )level like Macedonia and Serbia.
Economic growth and sustainability show that this country is moving forward, on its own.
Imagine if Albania have 1/2 of the funds that EU give to Greece and then we would talk...
Now, if you have seen just women, child and older people...
Is normal Gotsefromohrid.
Do you know that the man work during the day in Albania?
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!!
(GREEK NAZI PRIDE, 28 June 2015 13:51)
Exactly and they also exposed medieval Ottoman buildings as “ancient” Parthenon ect. But before that they destroyed the Muslim Mosque inside that in it’s turn had been a St.Mary Church. They also destroyed a Great minaret and multiple private houses painted on all old pictures by the Parthenon’s side. What is important people like the mob Genrieih Schliemann took part in all that. This man made the golden artifacts and buried them near Istanbul and later found them to become famous. They needed some foundation for the fake Roman history. So they used the Greeks and the Etruscans (who in fact were Russians). All other nations’ role in history was dumped. Also important is to say that before the 18 century no Ottomans or Turks or Osmans were even mentioned in any document or a map while Greek was the official language of the Empire. It became Muslim only in the 17 century while we have to decode history now to become closer to the truth. I love the Greeks but they role in the history was much smaller.
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people..
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015
Gotse,
Sounds like you were in Nis, as it fits your description exactly. However, I have news for you, Nis is no longer part of Albania, but will be again some day soon. Sounds like you're unemployed, have no fear though, come to Albania, we can find you a job. Ohrid is just a stone's throw away. You can walk to the nearest border crossing at Saint Naum.
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
(MikeC, 27 June 2015 00:33)
Thanks for bring the typo to my attention, Sherlock.
Why, then, did Serbia cave in after only 78 days of humanitarian bombing, pussies!
pre 9 godina
We'll talk again in one year.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Of course, and also in the year after that and so on. Your fantasies have been stated for many years and never happen because, well... they are just fantasies!
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They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Not sure even you have any idea what "geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans" even means lol
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The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Just because Serbs are naive and believe that countries like Russia & China support them because they love them, it does not mean that others are as naive as Serbs.
They supported Kosovo for purely pragmatic reasons. They did the math: what's more feasible, less costly and less of a mess: (A) forcing 2m Albanians live under Serbia or (B) forcing 0.2m Serbs live under Kosovo. You don't have to be a genious to figure out the answer!
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You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Serbia is obviously irrelevant, except for those who have dreams of grandeur. Greece is heading towards getting out of the Eurozone and potentially the EU which means that it may become irrelevant.
pre 9 godina
Bankrupt is a relative term.
Even if the greek economy shrank 20% it would still be a $200B economy (the largest market in the Balkans) and with no debt.
pre 9 godina
Greece will help Serbia to enter EU ?! HAhaha...Greece is about to get kicked out of EU pretty soon.
pre 9 godina
Tsipras won't be long in office and Greece will be bankrupt next week.
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!! it was an idea of a German king! Albanians named Arvanitis fought for independence for Greece !!!
pre 9 godina
Stinking European crusades will be crushed. The Byzantin Orthodox-Islamic Abraham republic will rise once again. We greeks are proud orthodox Turks. we are oglou sons of Turks. the Turkogreek race will conquer Europe and we will usher in the only true god of allah, jesus abrahama hashem YHWH(יהוה pbuh Viking norse mythology will not be permitted. we will destroy all traces of viking norse heritage. Pelasgian mythology will be destroyed and replaced with modern Turkish-Greek mythology. Europe will fall and the Turkishgreek race will rule the world.
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people.Now if albania had jobs why don't they give them to kosovars after all kosovo has more than 50per cent unemployment.I've also been to greece couple of times and i can tell you that albania will need couple of centuries toreach greek standards.
pre 9 godina
"and agreed to form a joint technical group that will deal with economic issues."
I was not sure if this is a case of the blind leading the blind, blind leading the stupid, stupid leading the blind or stupid leading the stupid. Then I realised it's Star Wars!
The greatest liars and economic incompetents in human history Greece/Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, are training their Padawan apprentice Serbia/Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, in the ways of Economic falsehood and stupidity.
Beware of the Dark Side... :)
pre 9 godina
(MikeC, 26 June 2015 21:40)
At first, Greece is not your ally, she make ally with whom that are convenient to her. Albania have the issue of Chameria unresolved with Greece, so be sure that when this issue will be soon resolved with Greece and then you will see your "BIG" ally..
And, YES, many Greeks live in Albania.
Work here, have invested their money here and have a life here with their family.., and we have no problem with this...
And YES, many Albanians live in Greece, work there and have a life there without any problem.
Do you know how many Albanians are honored in Greece?
Or do you know that the best students in Greece are Albanians, and she honored them?
Do it seems like hate this??
Oh, YES, you will find nationalist haters all around, who spare hate.
But in Albania you will not find to much Albanians "happy" for the situation of Greece.
I feel personally very very bad for their difficult problems..
Hope they find a solution!
And about you, that think you are "loved" by all...
Just.., look around and tell me what you see, except hatred ?
You are so furious, that you think Albanians are your biggest enemies or haters ?
A council! Just look around!
pre 9 godina
Mike C if Albanian regions are "dumps" then why are Slavs so desperate ,up to ,even committing Genocide for "dumps" such as Trepca and all surrounding areas?
Your lies are well worn out.
NATO ,I thought, pounded some sense into your thick skulls.
Aparently serbs need more...
pre 9 godina
OK, Countman.
We'll talk again in one year.
The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
As that process nears its end, and once resistant players are somewhat more compliant, you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.
They tire of you.
If you have access to the Western press you can see this for yourself.
You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
(factman, 26 June 2015 18:17)
Keep dreaming! btw, Russia was never Serbia's ally. Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. Then, Russia screwed Serbia over the Nis oil refinery, paying only cents on the dollar for it . They also abandoned Serbia over the South Stream pipeline. Shall I continue, Mr. factless!
pre 9 godina
The count of kosovaaaaa
You albanians are simply incredible. What does New Yorks economy have to do with Serbias? Is it your economy? Why don't you compare Serbias, Macedonias and Montenegros economy to that is Albania? I think my hometown of Donje Brijanje has a bigger economy then Albania. And please! Greeks come to Albania to work. I'we heard a lot of stupid thing in my live but this is beyond comrehension. There are 1.000.000 albanians working in Greece but now all if the sudden Balkans own powerhouse economy Albania is employing all of south east Europe. Please, don't make a bigger jackass of yourselves then you already have. Dude, Albania is a dump, Kosovo is a dump. Every place were there are albanians is a dump.
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
(factman, 26 June 2015 02:07)
Factman,
If you can do elementary arithmetic, you will discover that it is impossible for Greece to repay the $360 billion it owes the EU.
There are many Greeks coming to Albania seeking work and we have found jobs for them.
With USA and Germany as allies why should we care if our immediate neighbors are not.
The state of New York, alone, has a much greater economy than Serbia, Macedonia and Greece put together.
I am laughing so hard that I'm crying! Have a nice day.
pre 9 godina
"Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan."
Don't be jealous! Perhaps one day you albs will have a friend too. Most likely not, but who knows. Perhaps hell will freeze over.
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
pre 9 godina
Greek partners in crime with Serbia continue schemes on how to bluff their way into the EU with false inflated national financial documents and once it everyone goes on EU welfare cases.
How pathetic is that?
If the EU is fooled twice then they deserve to be taken for a ride.....
pre 9 godina
EU SONGS :
FOR SERBIA : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/led-zeppelin/mp3/lestnica-v-nebo/
There’s a lady who’s sure
All that glitters is gold
And she’s buying a stairways to heaven
FOR GREECE : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/the-eagles/mp3/hotel-california/
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax" said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave!"
pre 9 godina
Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan.
pre 9 godina
"Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan."
Don't be jealous! Perhaps one day you albs will have a friend too. Most likely not, but who knows. Perhaps hell will freeze over.
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
(factman, 26 June 2015 02:07)
Factman,
If you can do elementary arithmetic, you will discover that it is impossible for Greece to repay the $360 billion it owes the EU.
There are many Greeks coming to Albania seeking work and we have found jobs for them.
With USA and Germany as allies why should we care if our immediate neighbors are not.
The state of New York, alone, has a much greater economy than Serbia, Macedonia and Greece put together.
I am laughing so hard that I'm crying! Have a nice day.
pre 9 godina
The count of kosovaaaaa
You albanians are simply incredible. What does New Yorks economy have to do with Serbias? Is it your economy? Why don't you compare Serbias, Macedonias and Montenegros economy to that is Albania? I think my hometown of Donje Brijanje has a bigger economy then Albania. And please! Greeks come to Albania to work. I'we heard a lot of stupid thing in my live but this is beyond comrehension. There are 1.000.000 albanians working in Greece but now all if the sudden Balkans own powerhouse economy Albania is employing all of south east Europe. Please, don't make a bigger jackass of yourselves then you already have. Dude, Albania is a dump, Kosovo is a dump. Every place were there are albanians is a dump.
pre 9 godina
Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan.
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
(factman, 26 June 2015 18:17)
Keep dreaming! btw, Russia was never Serbia's ally. Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. Then, Russia screwed Serbia over the Nis oil refinery, paying only cents on the dollar for it . They also abandoned Serbia over the South Stream pipeline. Shall I continue, Mr. factless!
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
pre 9 godina
(MikeC, 26 June 2015 21:40)
At first, Greece is not your ally, she make ally with whom that are convenient to her. Albania have the issue of Chameria unresolved with Greece, so be sure that when this issue will be soon resolved with Greece and then you will see your "BIG" ally..
And, YES, many Greeks live in Albania.
Work here, have invested their money here and have a life here with their family.., and we have no problem with this...
And YES, many Albanians live in Greece, work there and have a life there without any problem.
Do you know how many Albanians are honored in Greece?
Or do you know that the best students in Greece are Albanians, and she honored them?
Do it seems like hate this??
Oh, YES, you will find nationalist haters all around, who spare hate.
But in Albania you will not find to much Albanians "happy" for the situation of Greece.
I feel personally very very bad for their difficult problems..
Hope they find a solution!
And about you, that think you are "loved" by all...
Just.., look around and tell me what you see, except hatred ?
You are so furious, that you think Albanians are your biggest enemies or haters ?
A council! Just look around!
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people.Now if albania had jobs why don't they give them to kosovars after all kosovo has more than 50per cent unemployment.I've also been to greece couple of times and i can tell you that albania will need couple of centuries toreach greek standards.
pre 9 godina
Greek partners in crime with Serbia continue schemes on how to bluff their way into the EU with false inflated national financial documents and once it everyone goes on EU welfare cases.
How pathetic is that?
If the EU is fooled twice then they deserve to be taken for a ride.....
pre 9 godina
OK, Countman.
We'll talk again in one year.
The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
As that process nears its end, and once resistant players are somewhat more compliant, you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.
They tire of you.
If you have access to the Western press you can see this for yourself.
You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
pre 9 godina
EU SONGS :
FOR SERBIA : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/led-zeppelin/mp3/lestnica-v-nebo/
There’s a lady who’s sure
All that glitters is gold
And she’s buying a stairways to heaven
FOR GREECE : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/the-eagles/mp3/hotel-california/
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax" said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave!"
pre 9 godina
Tsipras won't be long in office and Greece will be bankrupt next week.
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people..
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015
Gotse,
Sounds like you were in Nis, as it fits your description exactly. However, I have news for you, Nis is no longer part of Albania, but will be again some day soon. Sounds like you're unemployed, have no fear though, come to Albania, we can find you a job. Ohrid is just a stone's throw away. You can walk to the nearest border crossing at Saint Naum.
pre 9 godina
We'll talk again in one year.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Of course, and also in the year after that and so on. Your fantasies have been stated for many years and never happen because, well... they are just fantasies!
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They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Not sure even you have any idea what "geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans" even means lol
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The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Just because Serbs are naive and believe that countries like Russia & China support them because they love them, it does not mean that others are as naive as Serbs.
They supported Kosovo for purely pragmatic reasons. They did the math: what's more feasible, less costly and less of a mess: (A) forcing 2m Albanians live under Serbia or (B) forcing 0.2m Serbs live under Kosovo. You don't have to be a genious to figure out the answer!
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You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Serbia is obviously irrelevant, except for those who have dreams of grandeur. Greece is heading towards getting out of the Eurozone and potentially the EU which means that it may become irrelevant.
pre 9 godina
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015 16:37)
Now..., you are comparing Greece and Albania.
Do you know at least how many funds Greece have benefit from EU, to develop her economy, infrastructure, tourism etc..?
Do you know that Albania was a communist country, and had sanctions for a lot of time?
Do you know that Albania collapsed after the communism?
Albania start all from zero...
And do you know where Albania is right now? I must tell to you my dear Gotsefromohrid: in the same ( sh..t )level like Macedonia and Serbia.
Economic growth and sustainability show that this country is moving forward, on its own.
Imagine if Albania have 1/2 of the funds that EU give to Greece and then we would talk...
Now, if you have seen just women, child and older people...
Is normal Gotsefromohrid.
Do you know that the man work during the day in Albania?
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!! it was an idea of a German king! Albanians named Arvanitis fought for independence for Greece !!!
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
(MikeC, 27 June 2015 00:33)
Thanks for bring the typo to my attention, Sherlock.
Why, then, did Serbia cave in after only 78 days of humanitarian bombing, pussies!
pre 9 godina
Mike C if Albanian regions are "dumps" then why are Slavs so desperate ,up to ,even committing Genocide for "dumps" such as Trepca and all surrounding areas?
Your lies are well worn out.
NATO ,I thought, pounded some sense into your thick skulls.
Aparently serbs need more...
pre 9 godina
Stinking European crusades will be crushed. The Byzantin Orthodox-Islamic Abraham republic will rise once again. We greeks are proud orthodox Turks. we are oglou sons of Turks. the Turkogreek race will conquer Europe and we will usher in the only true god of allah, jesus abrahama hashem YHWH(יהוה pbuh Viking norse mythology will not be permitted. we will destroy all traces of viking norse heritage. Pelasgian mythology will be destroyed and replaced with modern Turkish-Greek mythology. Europe will fall and the Turkishgreek race will rule the world.
pre 9 godina
Greece will help Serbia to enter EU ?! HAhaha...Greece is about to get kicked out of EU pretty soon.
pre 9 godina
Bankrupt is a relative term.
Even if the greek economy shrank 20% it would still be a $200B economy (the largest market in the Balkans) and with no debt.
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!!
(GREEK NAZI PRIDE, 28 June 2015 13:51)
Exactly and they also exposed medieval Ottoman buildings as “ancient” Parthenon ect. But before that they destroyed the Muslim Mosque inside that in it’s turn had been a St.Mary Church. They also destroyed a Great minaret and multiple private houses painted on all old pictures by the Parthenon’s side. What is important people like the mob Genrieih Schliemann took part in all that. This man made the golden artifacts and buried them near Istanbul and later found them to become famous. They needed some foundation for the fake Roman history. So they used the Greeks and the Etruscans (who in fact were Russians). All other nations’ role in history was dumped. Also important is to say that before the 18 century no Ottomans or Turks or Osmans were even mentioned in any document or a map while Greek was the official language of the Empire. It became Muslim only in the 17 century while we have to decode history now to become closer to the truth. I love the Greeks but they role in the history was much smaller.
pre 9 godina
"and agreed to form a joint technical group that will deal with economic issues."
I was not sure if this is a case of the blind leading the blind, blind leading the stupid, stupid leading the blind or stupid leading the stupid. Then I realised it's Star Wars!
The greatest liars and economic incompetents in human history Greece/Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, are training their Padawan apprentice Serbia/Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, in the ways of Economic falsehood and stupidity.
Beware of the Dark Side... :)
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
(RighteousBilly, 30 June 2015 07:23)
In fact Albanians are a "stupid" proud people that never ask help from nobody, to face the "lovely" neighbors that made ally with each other and Russia against her since the WWI.
If Albania at time will make ally with US, today the Balkan will be a quiet and lovely place be sure.
All start with Kosovo in the WWI and will end with Kosovo.
And about the "Count of Kosovo", all the people here are free to express their different opinion, if you don't like it, you are free to not read it. Simple!
pre 9 godina
In medieval period during reign of Serb tzar "Dusan the Mighty", Albanians were on the serbian side and in part of his army. Thanks to that they had settled themselves in region of norteast Greece that they claim as their own nowdays. After fall of Serbs that fought Turks 150 years (although even before serb duke Lazar it was serb kings such as Milutin that fought Turks together with Byzantinians in minor Asia)Even Skenderbeg that Albanians claim as their the greatest hero in the very beginning fought in service of turkish sultans against Serbs and Greeks. In Ottoman empire albanian muslims were privileged class. Thanks to Turks they had settled themselves in Kosovo and Metohija, Skadar valley, even all the way to central Serbia near city of Nis that as they see should be part of the so-callled "Natural Albania". They fought in Kumanovo battle (1912)together with "sick man of Europe"-Ottomans against Serbs and they lost the battle. In ww1 Serbs remeber "March of Death" through Albania 1915 and vicious attacks of albanian bands. In ww2, 1941, Albanians were given "greater Albania" thanks to fascist Italy because they were allies. In communist Yugoslavia they had state within the state. In 1990s they were proxies of the New World Order and USA hegemony. Albanians were always on the side of powerful empires against Serbs. What is the next empire they will serve?
pre 8 godina
Greece and Serbia have been allies for a very long time and they will continue to be allies. They are forever Orthodox brothers!!!
pre 9 godina
Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan.
pre 9 godina
Stinking European crusades will be crushed. The Byzantin Orthodox-Islamic Abraham republic will rise once again. We greeks are proud orthodox Turks. we are oglou sons of Turks. the Turkogreek race will conquer Europe and we will usher in the only true god of allah, jesus abrahama hashem YHWH(יהוה pbuh Viking norse mythology will not be permitted. we will destroy all traces of viking norse heritage. Pelasgian mythology will be destroyed and replaced with modern Turkish-Greek mythology. Europe will fall and the Turkishgreek race will rule the world.
pre 9 godina
Greek partners in crime with Serbia continue schemes on how to bluff their way into the EU with false inflated national financial documents and once it everyone goes on EU welfare cases.
How pathetic is that?
If the EU is fooled twice then they deserve to be taken for a ride.....
pre 9 godina
"Ha,Ha,Ha!!! Is Serbia planning to bail out the Greeks or are they going to hit up Greece for a loan."
Don't be jealous! Perhaps one day you albs will have a friend too. Most likely not, but who knows. Perhaps hell will freeze over.
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
(factman, 26 June 2015 18:17)
Keep dreaming! btw, Russia was never Serbia's ally. Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. Then, Russia screwed Serbia over the Nis oil refinery, paying only cents on the dollar for it . They also abandoned Serbia over the South Stream pipeline. Shall I continue, Mr. factless!
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
(factman, 26 June 2015 02:07)
Factman,
If you can do elementary arithmetic, you will discover that it is impossible for Greece to repay the $360 billion it owes the EU.
There are many Greeks coming to Albania seeking work and we have found jobs for them.
With USA and Germany as allies why should we care if our immediate neighbors are not.
The state of New York, alone, has a much greater economy than Serbia, Macedonia and Greece put together.
I am laughing so hard that I'm crying! Have a nice day.
pre 9 godina
The US and Germany are slowly but surely abandoning you as an ally.
Open your eyes.
pre 9 godina
The count of kosovaaaaa
You albanians are simply incredible. What does New Yorks economy have to do with Serbias? Is it your economy? Why don't you compare Serbias, Macedonias and Montenegros economy to that is Albania? I think my hometown of Donje Brijanje has a bigger economy then Albania. And please! Greeks come to Albania to work. I'we heard a lot of stupid thing in my live but this is beyond comrehension. There are 1.000.000 albanians working in Greece but now all if the sudden Balkans own powerhouse economy Albania is employing all of south east Europe. Please, don't make a bigger jackass of yourselves then you already have. Dude, Albania is a dump, Kosovo is a dump. Every place were there are albanians is a dump.
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
pre 9 godina
Mike C if Albanian regions are "dumps" then why are Slavs so desperate ,up to ,even committing Genocide for "dumps" such as Trepca and all surrounding areas?
Your lies are well worn out.
NATO ,I thought, pounded some sense into your thick skulls.
Aparently serbs need more...
pre 9 godina
OK, Countman.
We'll talk again in one year.
The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
As that process nears its end, and once resistant players are somewhat more compliant, you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.
They tire of you.
If you have access to the Western press you can see this for yourself.
You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
pre 9 godina
(MikeC, 26 June 2015 21:40)
At first, Greece is not your ally, she make ally with whom that are convenient to her. Albania have the issue of Chameria unresolved with Greece, so be sure that when this issue will be soon resolved with Greece and then you will see your "BIG" ally..
And, YES, many Greeks live in Albania.
Work here, have invested their money here and have a life here with their family.., and we have no problem with this...
And YES, many Albanians live in Greece, work there and have a life there without any problem.
Do you know how many Albanians are honored in Greece?
Or do you know that the best students in Greece are Albanians, and she honored them?
Do it seems like hate this??
Oh, YES, you will find nationalist haters all around, who spare hate.
But in Albania you will not find to much Albanians "happy" for the situation of Greece.
I feel personally very very bad for their difficult problems..
Hope they find a solution!
And about you, that think you are "loved" by all...
Just.., look around and tell me what you see, except hatred ?
You are so furious, that you think Albanians are your biggest enemies or haters ?
A council! Just look around!
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people.Now if albania had jobs why don't they give them to kosovars after all kosovo has more than 50per cent unemployment.I've also been to greece couple of times and i can tell you that albania will need couple of centuries toreach greek standards.
pre 9 godina
Count,
Greece owes money for sure, but this is temporary.
It is mor important to note its economy is $250B.
Thats 30x yours, yet they are only 3x your population.
You should crying, not laughing.
you guys have antagonized the entire south of europe for 1000 miles in all directions.
on fact, I dont know that you can say you have a single ally in theentire south of europe.
you should think real hard about that.
pre 9 godina
"and agreed to form a joint technical group that will deal with economic issues."
I was not sure if this is a case of the blind leading the blind, blind leading the stupid, stupid leading the blind or stupid leading the stupid. Then I realised it's Star Wars!
The greatest liars and economic incompetents in human history Greece/Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, are training their Padawan apprentice Serbia/Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, in the ways of Economic falsehood and stupidity.
Beware of the Dark Side... :)
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
EU SONGS :
FOR SERBIA : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/led-zeppelin/mp3/lestnica-v-nebo/
There’s a lady who’s sure
All that glitters is gold
And she’s buying a stairways to heaven
FOR GREECE : http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/the-eagles/mp3/hotel-california/
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax" said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave!"
pre 9 godina
We'll talk again in one year.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Of course, and also in the year after that and so on. Your fantasies have been stated for many years and never happen because, well... they are just fantasies!
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They supported you to achieve a political and geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans. I think you will agree with that.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Not sure even you have any idea what "geo-strategic re-alignement in the Balkans" even means lol
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The problem with your viewpoint is that you think you are supported because they like you. Or because you have some potential for explosive economic growth or value to them.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Just because Serbs are naive and believe that countries like Russia & China support them because they love them, it does not mean that others are as naive as Serbs.
They supported Kosovo for purely pragmatic reasons. They did the math: what's more feasible, less costly and less of a mess: (A) forcing 2m Albanians live under Serbia or (B) forcing 0.2m Serbs live under Kosovo. You don't have to be a genious to figure out the answer!
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You need Greece and Serbia more than you know.
We'll talk in 2016 as this becomes more evident.
(factman, 27 June 2015 02:52)
Serbia is obviously irrelevant, except for those who have dreams of grandeur. Greece is heading towards getting out of the Eurozone and potentially the EU which means that it may become irrelevant.
pre 9 godina
Count
Have you been to albania recently?Well i have and what i've noticed is wherever one goes he sees only women,children and old people..
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015
Gotse,
Sounds like you were in Nis, as it fits your description exactly. However, I have news for you, Nis is no longer part of Albania, but will be again some day soon. Sounds like you're unemployed, have no fear though, come to Albania, we can find you a job. Ohrid is just a stone's throw away. You can walk to the nearest border crossing at Saint Naum.
pre 9 godina
Where was Russia when NATO bombed Serbia for 178 merciless days and nights. s!
The Count of Kosova
What's with you albanians and numbers? 178 days of bombing Serbia! 1,200,000 million albanians killed by serbs during the war and albanians having lived in the balkans 1,5000,000,000 years before anyone else.
Serbia was bombed for 78 days you third grader.
(MikeC, 27 June 2015 00:33)
Thanks for bring the typo to my attention, Sherlock.
Why, then, did Serbia cave in after only 78 days of humanitarian bombing, pussies!
pre 9 godina
Bankrupt is a relative term.
Even if the greek economy shrank 20% it would still be a $200B economy (the largest market in the Balkans) and with no debt.
pre 9 godina
It appears you have read the news, but not understood it and arrived at the proper conclusions.
There is no more EU for the Balkans. This is end of the road.
The Balkans must now live with the Balkans.
In that equation, Greece and Serbia come out on top.
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!! it was an idea of a German king! Albanians named Arvanitis fought for independence for Greece !!!
pre 9 godina
Tsipras won't be long in office and Greece will be bankrupt next week.
pre 9 godina
Greece will help Serbia to enter EU ?! HAhaha...Greece is about to get kicked out of EU pretty soon.
pre 9 godina
There never was a Greece before 1821 !!!
(GREEK NAZI PRIDE, 28 June 2015 13:51)
Exactly and they also exposed medieval Ottoman buildings as “ancient” Parthenon ect. But before that they destroyed the Muslim Mosque inside that in it’s turn had been a St.Mary Church. They also destroyed a Great minaret and multiple private houses painted on all old pictures by the Parthenon’s side. What is important people like the mob Genrieih Schliemann took part in all that. This man made the golden artifacts and buried them near Istanbul and later found them to become famous. They needed some foundation for the fake Roman history. So they used the Greeks and the Etruscans (who in fact were Russians). All other nations’ role in history was dumped. Also important is to say that before the 18 century no Ottomans or Turks or Osmans were even mentioned in any document or a map while Greek was the official language of the Empire. It became Muslim only in the 17 century while we have to decode history now to become closer to the truth. I love the Greeks but they role in the history was much smaller.
pre 9 godina
(Gotsefromohrid, 27 June 2015 16:37)
Now..., you are comparing Greece and Albania.
Do you know at least how many funds Greece have benefit from EU, to develop her economy, infrastructure, tourism etc..?
Do you know that Albania was a communist country, and had sanctions for a lot of time?
Do you know that Albania collapsed after the communism?
Albania start all from zero...
And do you know where Albania is right now? I must tell to you my dear Gotsefromohrid: in the same ( sh..t )level like Macedonia and Serbia.
Economic growth and sustainability show that this country is moving forward, on its own.
Imagine if Albania have 1/2 of the funds that EU give to Greece and then we would talk...
Now, if you have seen just women, child and older people...
Is normal Gotsefromohrid.
Do you know that the man work during the day in Albania?
pre 9 godina
In medieval period during reign of Serb tzar "Dusan the Mighty", Albanians were on the serbian side and in part of his army. Thanks to that they had settled themselves in region of norteast Greece that they claim as their own nowdays. After fall of Serbs that fought Turks 150 years (although even before serb duke Lazar it was serb kings such as Milutin that fought Turks together with Byzantinians in minor Asia)Even Skenderbeg that Albanians claim as their the greatest hero in the very beginning fought in service of turkish sultans against Serbs and Greeks. In Ottoman empire albanian muslims were privileged class. Thanks to Turks they had settled themselves in Kosovo and Metohija, Skadar valley, even all the way to central Serbia near city of Nis that as they see should be part of the so-callled "Natural Albania". They fought in Kumanovo battle (1912)together with "sick man of Europe"-Ottomans against Serbs and they lost the battle. In ww1 Serbs remeber "March of Death" through Albania 1915 and vicious attacks of albanian bands. In ww2, 1941, Albanians were given "greater Albania" thanks to fascist Italy because they were allies. In communist Yugoslavia they had state within the state. In 1990s they were proxies of the New World Order and USA hegemony. Albanians were always on the side of powerful empires against Serbs. What is the next empire they will serve?
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
pre 9 godina
Serbs have tradition of resistance to empires. So it was in 1999 when the greatest and most evil empire in history mankind-NATO. Albanians, in other hand were always on the side of powerful empires.
Btw, b92 moderators should ban comments of alabanian chauvinist count of Kosovaaaahhhh.
(RighteousBilly, 30 June 2015 07:23)
In fact Albanians are a "stupid" proud people that never ask help from nobody, to face the "lovely" neighbors that made ally with each other and Russia against her since the WWI.
If Albania at time will make ally with US, today the Balkan will be a quiet and lovely place be sure.
All start with Kosovo in the WWI and will end with Kosovo.
And about the "Count of Kosovo", all the people here are free to express their different opinion, if you don't like it, you are free to not read it. Simple!
pre 8 godina
Greece and Serbia have been allies for a very long time and they will continue to be allies. They are forever Orthodox brothers!!!
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