no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 13:40)
Leave sj alone, he has a magic Crystal Ball to see into the future.
I remember once sj told me that Chinese Citizens don't need visas to go to Australia but British Citizens do. He told me that he knows this to be true because his Chinese friend's parents told him (that on its own is hilarious). I proved him wrong with links to the Australian Government Department of Immigration and Boarder Protection website. He talks a load of BS!
"if 20 Euros stroy is all you have keep telling me about so I dont foget LOL"
no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
(sj, 8 August 2014 11:14)
That's rich coming from you when you make up data and statistics to back up your outrageous claims.
not that bright? do you actually know what this means? it means one is bright, just not as much as one thinks. if you have any retort to any of my points, do put them forward, preferably though without you having to tell me that you're not allowed to share your sources due to confidentiality clauses. everything I wrote here can be easily verified.
"You talk through your arse and think its the truth."
whatever nonsense i may have shared with you, i have never written garbage like paid 20 EURO's in 1994.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 09:02)
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
is that a pitch for Yugoslavia that I am reading? sunshine, both Slovenia and Croatia now are richer than Serbia. its not me that says it, its economic data that backs it up. both were richer republics than Serbia when they were all joined together as Yugoslavia. again, its not me that claims this, its economic data that backs it up. now, if the data has been lying to us all these years (and I know you have solid information from Chinese agencies that you can't disclose because of confidentiality clauses) then i can't do anything about that. however, that Serbia can afford to look after all those former republics and still have enough change left over for holy Kosmet and probably half of Albania and a bit of Greece, well, i can do nothing but laugh at that. oh and by the way, Serbia IS Albania, it relies on foreign remittance for its survival, like Albania. its not my fault that this is true.
You can think all you like but Serbia is not Albania and I have been to both. Like the keeping of background information on potential clients you still don’t understand what the EU wants and that is for these former states to function as in the past so it takes the burden off Brussels.
What has Croatia/Slovenia have as their main source of income? Tourism and with the recent poor weather tourist numbers were catastrophically low. Now put on your thinking cap on for a moment and tell me how are they going 20 years after leaving Yugoslavia?
In Slovenia people are now demanding an explanation to the lies told by people like Milan Kucan that they will live better being “free”. In Croatia every year more and more are visiting Tito’ birth place on his birthday and its young people not the old communist.
The west destroyed Serbia’s economy so it will take time to rebuild, but of all the former republic Serbia has the most potential.
Kosovo fought for its independence from Yugoslavia just like Croatia. In fact Kosovo initially declared independence from Yugoslavia before Croatia.
I believe that Northern Kosovo should be a part of the Republic of Serbia not the Republic of Kosovo.
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(Ari Gold, 7 August 2014 17:30)
Again you have [probably deliberately] misread my comment. I never said Serbs were 'foreign' in Croatia. I said that the so-called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' was a "foreign sponsored puppet Government". Big difference!
There was an undisputed colonisation process in Kosovo in the 1920s and 1930s where hundreds of thousands of locals were deported and Serbs were brought into Kosovo to colonise and settle the newly conquered lands once WW1 was over. This is a fact.
"But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000."
But Kosovo really is Serbian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Nato campaign.
Kosovo has a population of just over 2 million.
See, what I don't understand is how on one hand you clearly feel Croatians had a right to defend that territory. While you 'wish' that civilians didn't have to flee and the Srpska Krajina Republic was crushed without that, in the same breath you champion the KLA and Kosovo Albanians doing that exact same thing in Serbia. So why is that? Krajina and Slavonia had their parts with a huge Serbian majority of the population like Kosovo had big areas that are majority Albanian. Even right now in the current situation, Northern Kosovo has a majority Serb population that does not want to be governed by Pristina and yet you are against any of their rights to break away...however, you championed Kosovo breaking away. You see, this is where you get your reputation of being a Serb hater or Serbophobe, or whatever the terms are being thrown around.
Any time it has hurt or harmed Serbs/Serbia you were always for it. Anything that would be in Serbs'/Serbia's favor you have always been adamantly against it. The couple examples above are just a small sample of the bigger picture in why you have the reputation you do.
"Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients."
I definitely don't think such a thing.
"This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing. "
nor do i think any of this.
p.s. however badly France's, Germany's or UK's economy may be performing now or will be in the future, they will ALWAYS be infinitely richer than tiny insignificant Serbia. Serbia, will NEVER be able to look after Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia. purely and simply, Serbia is in the same boat as Albania, it relies on outsiders for its survival. that you have delusions of grandeur is your issue
Here Ian goes again with his anti-Serb bigotry. Hey Ian, how can the Serbian gov't in Krajina (that survived well before Western meddling) be considered a "foreign" gov't if both Serbia and Croatia were at one time apart of the same exact country? Isn't it perhaps the fault of the communists for placing hundreds of thousands of Serbs in a Croatian republic? Sure, Serbs were gullible and I would say stupid for waiting until the 90s to fight against these unjust borders from an unjust totalitarian government, but to pretend as if Serbs were "foreigners" in these communities where they lived for centuries, is in fact bigotry.
You call Serbs "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija despite the fact that even in the unjust borders of Yugoslavia, Kosovo-Metohija was (and still is) a sovereign part of Serbia.
So Serbs are foreigners in land that was marked Croatian where hundreds of thousands of Serbs lived for centuries, and Serbs are also "colonialists" in a land where Serbs were systematically ethnically cleansed for decades before the 90s, and historically can take claim to the very oldest buildings standing on that territory.
So it doesn't matter what other nation is involved, or how hypocritical it is for you to support neo Nazism/Croatian nationalism in Krajina and also rabid Albanian radical separatism in Kosovo-metohija. The common denominator are in fact Serbs, and your very unhealthy hatred for them.
Ian, I would humbly suggest that if you are going to make derogatory comments about other people's lack of intelligence (e.g. using offensive labels like "spaz"), it's probably not a good idea to use "its" (genitive) and it's (it is) incorrectly, especially when English is supposed to be your native language.
As someone who used to live in Croatia and is there right now, and who has neither Serbian or Croatian ancestry, I find a lot of the comments below the line here extremely depressing and proof positive that hatred, bigotry and intolerance still live on in the Balkans. Those commenters like Mirel who are celebrating the human suffering caused by Operation Storm and can't see that it was as much a war crime and crime against humanity as the shelling of Vukovar and Sarajevo (irrespective of the verdict reached by 3/5 judges in the Appeal Court) really need to take a long hard look at themselves. The day when commenters are able to unequivocally condemn the crimes of their own nations instead of celebrating the crimes committed against "enemy" nations will be the day that the region has really moved on. Twenty years after Operation Storm, sadly I see little sign of that. Shameful.
(Nikolle, 6 August 2014 16:39)
Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients. This must be Albanian style banking with an abicus.
This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing.
France is teetering on being broke, UK its about 92% of GDP in debt and German banks are failing the stress test instituted by the EU.
Slovenia is rated as junk bond status. Croatia has been downgraded twice in the last 12 months by your rating agencies and neither can borrow a Euro cent on their own without Brussels providing guarantees. Even in its current situation Serbia can borrow money at a very reasonable rate on its own – rings any bells mate or do you need me to paint you a picture?????
I also find it amusing that someone from an Albanian background talks about piss poor countries.
But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000.
In the Croatian War of Independence between 300,000 to 350,000 Serbs left Croatia (130,000+ have since returned), 150,000–200,000 of which left during/ shortly after Operation Storm. How many of these Serbs left Slavonia rather than Krajina/ the Knin region? Also one has to bare in mind that Operation Storm didn't take place in Serb controlled far Eastern Slavonia.
Croats always were & are the vast majority population of Slavonia, that isn't "Serbophobic" as you'd probably say, that is a fact. So considering that Croats are the majority population of Slavonia (they always were) & that Slavonia is a part of the Republic of Croatia, it is fair to say that Slavonia really is Croatian despite Slavonia having a minority Serb population.
I think it is terrible that 150,000+ Serbs left Croatia during/ shortly after Operation Storm and I'm glad that many Serbs have since returned. I wish the Croats could have crushed the foreign sponsored puppet Government of the so called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' without the Serbs fleeing. However I also think it is terrible that 220,000+ non-Serbs were forcibly removed from Serb held territories in Croatia from 1991-2. Have you ever condemned that? Have you ****! If anyone is racist, it's you with your derogatory comments against entire ethnic groups.
BTW, my most recent comment was obviously aimed at Ian, UK the racist Serbophobe bigot with mental complexes who airs out his hatred of Serbs daily on B92.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
(Mirel from Albania, 6 August 2014 16:56)
But here's the thing, whether its the German and American mercenaries that helped carry out "Storm", or the NATO bombardment... one thing is for certain, no former EX-YU "brothers" could ever "punish" Serbia. Only outside forces can punish Serbia. So be it Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary, Nazi Germany or NATO... one thing that never changes is Serbia's weaker neighbours latch onto these foreign empires to do their bidding for them.
But of course what makes them foreign is that they do not belong there and eventually leave. Who is going to "punish" Serbia then? ROSU terror squads?! HA! They were pushed out of Mitrovica in 2011 by Serbian civilians and have not been back since without the presence of NATO-KFOR troops. Once again proving my point, you could never have your way with Serbia on your own.
When they leave, you will be singing a different (sad) song!
IDK, maybe it will, maybe it wont. I am just sharing what is being said by some Dalmatians on facebook (there is a pro Dalmantian sepratist fb page)... yes I would like to see Croatia break up so I myself would love to see it happen. I don't think you are in charge of deciding what will happen and what wont. But Scotland leaving the UK and then the UK leaving the EU is far more likely, I agree.
Oh ya the "egg is on my face" because I said Germany which led the Central Powers instead of saying all the Central Powers....
Yes of course you were celebrating ethnic cleansing when you said "Slavonia is REALLY Croatian" because before the ethnic cleansing of Oluja (which you don't condemn because you are a racist bigot), Slavonia had a large Serbian community. In that sense it only became "really Croatian" after war crimes were committed. You don't recognize that, you view it as a part of Croatia and therefore being "really" Croatian. But Kosovo-Metohija is apart of Serbia and yet you view Serbs as "colonialists". See the racism? The bigotry? The unhealthy mental complex that you make a point to come on here and express?
I haven't ran out of things to say, I usually end my comment with the conclusion that everyone else here already has- you have hatred toward Serbs. Most Westerners are not this way despite their corrupt govts actions supporting Muslim terrorism and Croatian neo Nazim. What makes it unhealthy is your thirst to share it with us here everyday. Seek help.
"carrying all these former republics on our backs."
Serbia? Serbia carrying other republics on its back? You must have Serbia confused with France or Germany or the UK. Serbia can't carry itself on its back, never mind others. there's nothing funnier then when people from piss poor countries (though why you, an Aussie, thinks himself a Serb I have no idea) think they are capable of looking after others. Your Malaysian friend is letting you down with the info he is supplying to you. Better establish new contacts
I am sorry to say that,but Operation Storm show the world that the only language that serbs understand is the Storm.
Until the Storm happaned 1/3 of Croatia was under the foreign occupation and serbs rejected every peace plan.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
If Storm didnt happaned they will create RS in Croatia and they will sabotage every effort for peace,make Croatia a disfuncional state as Bosnia.
Croatia has every right to Celebrate Operation Storm because the Hague verdict said so.
Kudos for Croatia and long live Ante Gotovina,the great croatian hero!
You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
(Ian, UK, 6 August 2014 10:45)
LOL! Look who's talking. The guy who brags about himself and uses personal insults.
Croatians are fascists much like their Ukrainan Catholic brothers – both were trained as Vatican attack dogs to expand Catholicism and both have a hatred of their orthodox neighbours. It should be the opposite but it’s not. Even Germany are steering well clear of Croatia and Angela Merkel will not go to Zagreb on an official visit and no the recent gathering in Dubrovnik is not classified as an official visit – Merkal knows if she goes then its Nazi Germany helps their brothers the Croats.
Note how the Josipovic and the Croat generals did not show their faces this year for operation storm and that’s because Belgrade started to shake Zagreb’s’ cage and this is only the beginning.
Today’s borders in the Balkans were imposed by the powers to be at the time of the breakup of Yugoslvaia because it suited them and with a change of world powers the borders can change as quickly, its as simple as that and no Croat, Bosniak or Serb can stop it. It will happen.
Delegation after delegation of Russian parliamentarians that come to Serbia repeat the same mantra – that it is a great shame on Russia for not being able to help Serbia in its hour of great need and that mistake has to be rectified soon and it will be.
I dont want Serbs to rule anyone and I dont want Serbs to be part of any mini EU as that means carrying all these former republics on our backs. Slovenia –broke; Croatia – broke, Monenegro, BiH or Macedonia all broke.
Dalmatia will never separate from Croatia PERIOD! You just want it to separate from Croatia because you hate Croatia and would like to see it break apart.
Slavonia is part of the Republic of Croatia, I don't understand how saying this can "legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs". It is fact that Slavonia is part of Croatia.
There was an undisputed process of Colonisation in Kosovo unlike in Slavonia.
"When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers".
No you didn't, you meant Germany because you wrote Germany. I know you're a spaz when it comes to history. The egg is already on your face and it is rotting already.
Brave little Serbia fought to the best of her capabilities in WW1 but allied forces had to assist in her liberation. This is historical fact, if you think that this fact somehow "belittles Serbia" then don't blame me because I wasn't there in WW1. I played no part in this.
I'm a racist? I've said nothing about race, people or ethnic groups. I have no hatred, I don't hate anyone.
You're just calling me a "racists" and a "Serbophobe" because you've run out of things to say, you don't know what else to do and can't come up with anything else. I'm used to this tactic. You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
SJ, not sure where you are trying to go with your comments. Operation Storm was, and always will be a huge ethnic cleansing tragedy. If Croatia is indeed toning down that celebration, that's a good start and hopefully they will completely eliminate that tragedy and see it for what it was. However, your points that Serbia is going to make some demands on Croatia and even have them go to 1918 borders is kind of absurd. Serbia does not have that kind of power, even if Russia and China became global super powers I don't see that scenario playing out. Even if Serbia was this great power, they shouldn't pursue it. It's time to go beyond those thoughts, just like Croats need to quit celebrating Operation Storm and destroying Cyrillic writings.
When Yugoslavia broke up in 1991, that is where the mistakes were made with the borders. The republics that formed Yugoslavia had borders redrawn and left ethnic groups in other territories. Those mistakes were not letting Krajina be part of Serbia, Republika Srpska go with Serbia, while Sandzak area goes with Bosna and any small patches of Serbia where it's all Croats go to Croatia. Peaceful, amicable, no blood. Why try to rule ethnic groups you don't want? It didn't happen that way sadly. So, after all the bloodshed and pain of war, why try and repeat that cycle? Rather, they should work on a mini EU style system amongst the former Yugo republics where everyone is independent, yet with a common cause of equality.
(Ian, UK, 5 August 2014 16:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celt back on the scene. Stick to cleaning bedpans and leave the real world to people that know more than you, which in your case would not be hard. Watch how the situation progresses in Ukraine, if the Russians win Croatia and Kosova are finished but if they lose its Serbia that loses all.
Its also very interesting how all the posts are from Albanians.
It's not necessarily the population, it's the fact that the central Zagreb authorities would be in charge of administrating revenue generated from this hypothetical oil that is found on the Dalmatian coast.
Saying Slavonia is "really" Croatian is only legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs in that region. Funny how you use such disrespectful, slanderous remarks regarding Serbs being "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija (this despite the fact that the oldest buildings standing on that land are Serbian Orthodox Churches), and yet Slavonia is "really Croatian"? Why are Croats not colonialists in regions where Serbs AND Croats lived side by side for centuries? But Serbs are colonialists in Kosovo-Metohija despite proof of existence on this land for centuries...
When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers. But you belittle the Serbian sacrifice of losing over a quarter of its population by somehow implying that Serbia was bailed out "saved".
You sir are a racist. You pick whichever conflict from whichever era, and find a way to flat out lie and spread hatred at the expense of Serbs and Serbia. Obviously despite your corrupt govt's actions in supporting terrorism during the 90s, I know that most Westerners do not think this way. So if you want to be a racist Serbophobe that's fine, but where you have a mental complex is your thirst to express it on a Serbian website. You make a sincere effort to express your hatred everyday on here.
In what way was I "siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe"? All I said was that Slavonia is very Croatian. Croatia has a population of 4.3 Million, ie a very small population. Do you really think it would be significantly different for Dalmatia to go it alone due to oil when Croatia already has a small population?
With WW1 you obviously misread my comment. I said "Serbia had to rely on allies" (lowercase "a") not that Serbia had to really on "The Allies" (uppercase "A"). Since you struggle to understand things, let me explain it for you; 'allies' is plural for the world 'ally' which means: "a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose".
"Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win."
This is more proof of your ignorance. Germany's role in the Serbian Campaign was rather limited, Germany was rather preoccupied with the Western & Eastern fronts; Germany's most notable presence in Serbia was the German Empire's 11th Army. Serbia predominantly fought with Austria-Hungary & Bulgaria in WW1. I'm surprised you didn't know this. Oh wait... no I'm not.
And what have I said that apparently makes me a "Serbophobe" this time? Am I a "Serbophobe" for telling sj that he was speaking BS by saying "Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1"? Am I a "Serbophobe" for saying that Slavonia is Croatian? Is this what defines a "Serbophobe" in the world of Ari Gold these days?
Thank you to the Croatian Army for returning occupied territory back to the Republic of Croatia and allowing my family and the thousands of others to return to their homes 4 years after being driven out. There is still a lot of work to do to repair our village, but today it is in better condition than what we found in 1995 and the most houses and the church has been rebuilt.
Ah Ian is venting out his mental complexes on B92 again, only this time siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe instead of his usual choice, Albanian terrorists. Actually Ian, there is somewhat of a sentiment of Dalmatian identity that could lead to independence in the coming decades. Croatia is an extremely indebted nation, oil was found off the coast of Dalmatia that will try to be extracted in a few years. The theory is that these revenues would stay in Dalmatia if they separated from Croatia. As long as the Croatian economy continues to decline and borrowing increases, this may become a reality.
As far as WWI, Serbia didn't "need" the Allies, Serbia was a founding member OF the Allies. Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win. Doesn't mean anyone bailed Serbia out, nor does it mean Serbia was defeated because it stood on the side of victory at the end of the war.
Of course why am I explaining sheer logic to a ragging Serbophobe who deals with his mental fixation on hating Serbians by taking time out of his day to make it a point to come on a Serbian website to air out his hatred.
Hopefully you find a female (or male, whatever you're into) soon. I predict then you will be less on B92 and more of a functional person of your soon EU less society! (The UK is leaving your beloved EU, incase you didn't know. But not before the UK itself *may* become smaller by Scotland leaving).
oh ian, minister of military might. yes, little serbia did need help. it was attacked by a country 10 times its size in population, landmass, resources and wealth. however uk, a comparably sized nation to germany needed help in both world wars to free itself. pretty high and mighty needing the help of real canadian soldiers to free you isles.
it took the might of france, england, canada, russia and more to defeat germany, and you want to slag serbia for not being able to handle it on its own.
perspective seems to have left your island once the sun set on the british crown.
regarding slavonia, have you been to the outlying regions, not osiek, vukovar or vinkovci? have you been there prior to the ethnic cleansing? it would be harder to find a more serbian place than the rural areas of slaviona before croatians espunged them en mass.
"As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existence very soon."
"Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Serbia did sweet FA for Croatia in WW1. Serbia was militarily defeated and exhausted in WW1, Serbia had to rely on allies for it's own liberation in the end after the Serbian army retreated through Albania to Corfu.
Have you ever been to Slavonia? Please go to Osijek and repeat that BS, you won't find a more Croatian place in the world than Osijek.
Now please do us a favour and stop sharing your wet dreams and fantasies with us, no-one cares!
You still here posting your sh!t? Of course you are. We read the same crap yesterday, so it's not like you've anything new to add to the farce that you're Croatian or have ever been to Croatia. Go play on the highway.
Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
You must be talking about Serbian Kingdom, which is Belgrade with its surroundings, the same size you described Zagreb.
The Croats will never forgive or forget what the 'local' Chetniks did to the civilian population. Even the E.U can't push the Croatian Government to accept a Chetnik return. If a Chetnik sign can't last a day on a Vukovar wall how long do you think a brainwashed un-educated Knindza would last on Croatian soil. Lets be frank.... the Croatian Serbs hate Serbia that much that they would rather return to Lijepa Nasa and listen to Thompson, tolerate the 'U' in everyday life and mop floors for a living then live under Vucic's flood stricken and bankrupt Serbia. The Serbs in the last 30 years have become a very weak nation with no immediate escape from the hell it currently lives in. This is what happens to the corporate fat cats in BG when ZG stops sending you money. You got used to first class living and now are reluctant to go back to economy class- get used to it. Thank you Germany so much for supporting the destruction of YU and everything that twisted country stood for.
Perhaps many have not noticed but this year there are very few faces of note celebrating the anniversary of operation storm and this will get smaller and smaller as Croatia tries to escape its fascist leanings. However, it’s all too late as the fate of Croatia is sealed and it’s not going to be pretty. As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existance very soon.
It’s what I have been saying all along that Ukraine itself is not that important but the eastern part is essential for Russia to dominate Europe and much to my absolute delight its proceeding extremely well. The desperation of the US is shown by the fact that they are providing arms, equipment and uniforms from their reserves and a wealthy country does not do that, or so I am told by people in the know.
Once that issue is resolved Belgrade will start to make demands on Croatia knowing very well that Zagreb cannot fulfil them and the pressure will increase by Serbia demanding 1918 borders and no one in Europe will be able to stop that from happening. Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
The Croats will never forgive or forget what the 'local' Chetniks did to the civilian population. Even the E.U can't push the Croatian Government to accept a Chetnik return. If a Chetnik sign can't last a day on a Vukovar wall how long do you think a brainwashed un-educated Knindza would last on Croatian soil. Lets be frank.... the Croatian Serbs hate Serbia that much that they would rather return to Lijepa Nasa and listen to Thompson, tolerate the 'U' in everyday life and mop floors for a living then live under Vucic's flood stricken and bankrupt Serbia. The Serbs in the last 30 years have become a very weak nation with no immediate escape from the hell it currently lives in. This is what happens to the corporate fat cats in BG when ZG stops sending you money. You got used to first class living and now are reluctant to go back to economy class- get used to it. Thank you Germany so much for supporting the destruction of YU and everything that twisted country stood for.
I am sorry to say that,but Operation Storm show the world that the only language that serbs understand is the Storm.
Until the Storm happaned 1/3 of Croatia was under the foreign occupation and serbs rejected every peace plan.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
If Storm didnt happaned they will create RS in Croatia and they will sabotage every effort for peace,make Croatia a disfuncional state as Bosnia.
Croatia has every right to Celebrate Operation Storm because the Hague verdict said so.
Kudos for Croatia and long live Ante Gotovina,the great croatian hero!
You still here posting your sh!t? Of course you are. We read the same crap yesterday, so it's not like you've anything new to add to the farce that you're Croatian or have ever been to Croatia. Go play on the highway.
"As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existence very soon."
"Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Serbia did sweet FA for Croatia in WW1. Serbia was militarily defeated and exhausted in WW1, Serbia had to rely on allies for it's own liberation in the end after the Serbian army retreated through Albania to Corfu.
Have you ever been to Slavonia? Please go to Osijek and repeat that BS, you won't find a more Croatian place in the world than Osijek.
Now please do us a favour and stop sharing your wet dreams and fantasies with us, no-one cares!
Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
You must be talking about Serbian Kingdom, which is Belgrade with its surroundings, the same size you described Zagreb.
Dalmatia will never separate from Croatia PERIOD! You just want it to separate from Croatia because you hate Croatia and would like to see it break apart.
Slavonia is part of the Republic of Croatia, I don't understand how saying this can "legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs". It is fact that Slavonia is part of Croatia.
There was an undisputed process of Colonisation in Kosovo unlike in Slavonia.
"When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers".
No you didn't, you meant Germany because you wrote Germany. I know you're a spaz when it comes to history. The egg is already on your face and it is rotting already.
Brave little Serbia fought to the best of her capabilities in WW1 but allied forces had to assist in her liberation. This is historical fact, if you think that this fact somehow "belittles Serbia" then don't blame me because I wasn't there in WW1. I played no part in this.
I'm a racist? I've said nothing about race, people or ethnic groups. I have no hatred, I don't hate anyone.
You're just calling me a "racists" and a "Serbophobe" because you've run out of things to say, you don't know what else to do and can't come up with anything else. I'm used to this tactic. You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
Perhaps many have not noticed but this year there are very few faces of note celebrating the anniversary of operation storm and this will get smaller and smaller as Croatia tries to escape its fascist leanings. However, it’s all too late as the fate of Croatia is sealed and it’s not going to be pretty. As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existance very soon.
It’s what I have been saying all along that Ukraine itself is not that important but the eastern part is essential for Russia to dominate Europe and much to my absolute delight its proceeding extremely well. The desperation of the US is shown by the fact that they are providing arms, equipment and uniforms from their reserves and a wealthy country does not do that, or so I am told by people in the know.
Once that issue is resolved Belgrade will start to make demands on Croatia knowing very well that Zagreb cannot fulfil them and the pressure will increase by Serbia demanding 1918 borders and no one in Europe will be able to stop that from happening. Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
Thank you to the Croatian Army for returning occupied territory back to the Republic of Croatia and allowing my family and the thousands of others to return to their homes 4 years after being driven out. There is still a lot of work to do to repair our village, but today it is in better condition than what we found in 1995 and the most houses and the church has been rebuilt.
In what way was I "siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe"? All I said was that Slavonia is very Croatian. Croatia has a population of 4.3 Million, ie a very small population. Do you really think it would be significantly different for Dalmatia to go it alone due to oil when Croatia already has a small population?
With WW1 you obviously misread my comment. I said "Serbia had to rely on allies" (lowercase "a") not that Serbia had to really on "The Allies" (uppercase "A"). Since you struggle to understand things, let me explain it for you; 'allies' is plural for the world 'ally' which means: "a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose".
"Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win."
This is more proof of your ignorance. Germany's role in the Serbian Campaign was rather limited, Germany was rather preoccupied with the Western & Eastern fronts; Germany's most notable presence in Serbia was the German Empire's 11th Army. Serbia predominantly fought with Austria-Hungary & Bulgaria in WW1. I'm surprised you didn't know this. Oh wait... no I'm not.
And what have I said that apparently makes me a "Serbophobe" this time? Am I a "Serbophobe" for telling sj that he was speaking BS by saying "Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1"? Am I a "Serbophobe" for saying that Slavonia is Croatian? Is this what defines a "Serbophobe" in the world of Ari Gold these days?
But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000.
In the Croatian War of Independence between 300,000 to 350,000 Serbs left Croatia (130,000+ have since returned), 150,000–200,000 of which left during/ shortly after Operation Storm. How many of these Serbs left Slavonia rather than Krajina/ the Knin region? Also one has to bare in mind that Operation Storm didn't take place in Serb controlled far Eastern Slavonia.
Croats always were & are the vast majority population of Slavonia, that isn't "Serbophobic" as you'd probably say, that is a fact. So considering that Croats are the majority population of Slavonia (they always were) & that Slavonia is a part of the Republic of Croatia, it is fair to say that Slavonia really is Croatian despite Slavonia having a minority Serb population.
I think it is terrible that 150,000+ Serbs left Croatia during/ shortly after Operation Storm and I'm glad that many Serbs have since returned. I wish the Croats could have crushed the foreign sponsored puppet Government of the so called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' without the Serbs fleeing. However I also think it is terrible that 220,000+ non-Serbs were forcibly removed from Serb held territories in Croatia from 1991-2. Have you ever condemned that? Have you ****! If anyone is racist, it's you with your derogatory comments against entire ethnic groups.
"Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients."
I definitely don't think such a thing.
"This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing. "
nor do i think any of this.
p.s. however badly France's, Germany's or UK's economy may be performing now or will be in the future, they will ALWAYS be infinitely richer than tiny insignificant Serbia. Serbia, will NEVER be able to look after Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia. purely and simply, Serbia is in the same boat as Albania, it relies on outsiders for its survival. that you have delusions of grandeur is your issue
"carrying all these former republics on our backs."
Serbia? Serbia carrying other republics on its back? You must have Serbia confused with France or Germany or the UK. Serbia can't carry itself on its back, never mind others. there's nothing funnier then when people from piss poor countries (though why you, an Aussie, thinks himself a Serb I have no idea) think they are capable of looking after others. Your Malaysian friend is letting you down with the info he is supplying to you. Better establish new contacts
no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 13:40)
Leave sj alone, he has a magic Crystal Ball to see into the future.
I remember once sj told me that Chinese Citizens don't need visas to go to Australia but British Citizens do. He told me that he knows this to be true because his Chinese friend's parents told him (that on its own is hilarious). I proved him wrong with links to the Australian Government Department of Immigration and Boarder Protection website. He talks a load of BS!
Ah Ian is venting out his mental complexes on B92 again, only this time siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe instead of his usual choice, Albanian terrorists. Actually Ian, there is somewhat of a sentiment of Dalmatian identity that could lead to independence in the coming decades. Croatia is an extremely indebted nation, oil was found off the coast of Dalmatia that will try to be extracted in a few years. The theory is that these revenues would stay in Dalmatia if they separated from Croatia. As long as the Croatian economy continues to decline and borrowing increases, this may become a reality.
As far as WWI, Serbia didn't "need" the Allies, Serbia was a founding member OF the Allies. Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win. Doesn't mean anyone bailed Serbia out, nor does it mean Serbia was defeated because it stood on the side of victory at the end of the war.
Of course why am I explaining sheer logic to a ragging Serbophobe who deals with his mental fixation on hating Serbians by taking time out of his day to make it a point to come on a Serbian website to air out his hatred.
Hopefully you find a female (or male, whatever you're into) soon. I predict then you will be less on B92 and more of a functional person of your soon EU less society! (The UK is leaving your beloved EU, incase you didn't know. But not before the UK itself *may* become smaller by Scotland leaving).
"if 20 Euros stroy is all you have keep telling me about so I dont foget LOL"
no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
is that a pitch for Yugoslavia that I am reading? sunshine, both Slovenia and Croatia now are richer than Serbia. its not me that says it, its economic data that backs it up. both were richer republics than Serbia when they were all joined together as Yugoslavia. again, its not me that claims this, its economic data that backs it up. now, if the data has been lying to us all these years (and I know you have solid information from Chinese agencies that you can't disclose because of confidentiality clauses) then i can't do anything about that. however, that Serbia can afford to look after all those former republics and still have enough change left over for holy Kosmet and probably half of Albania and a bit of Greece, well, i can do nothing but laugh at that. oh and by the way, Serbia IS Albania, it relies on foreign remittance for its survival, like Albania. its not my fault that this is true.
not that bright? do you actually know what this means? it means one is bright, just not as much as one thinks. if you have any retort to any of my points, do put them forward, preferably though without you having to tell me that you're not allowed to share your sources due to confidentiality clauses. everything I wrote here can be easily verified.
"You talk through your arse and think its the truth."
whatever nonsense i may have shared with you, i have never written garbage like paid 20 EURO's in 1994.
oh ian, minister of military might. yes, little serbia did need help. it was attacked by a country 10 times its size in population, landmass, resources and wealth. however uk, a comparably sized nation to germany needed help in both world wars to free itself. pretty high and mighty needing the help of real canadian soldiers to free you isles.
it took the might of france, england, canada, russia and more to defeat germany, and you want to slag serbia for not being able to handle it on its own.
perspective seems to have left your island once the sun set on the british crown.
regarding slavonia, have you been to the outlying regions, not osiek, vukovar or vinkovci? have you been there prior to the ethnic cleansing? it would be harder to find a more serbian place than the rural areas of slaviona before croatians espunged them en mass.
It's not necessarily the population, it's the fact that the central Zagreb authorities would be in charge of administrating revenue generated from this hypothetical oil that is found on the Dalmatian coast.
Saying Slavonia is "really" Croatian is only legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs in that region. Funny how you use such disrespectful, slanderous remarks regarding Serbs being "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija (this despite the fact that the oldest buildings standing on that land are Serbian Orthodox Churches), and yet Slavonia is "really Croatian"? Why are Croats not colonialists in regions where Serbs AND Croats lived side by side for centuries? But Serbs are colonialists in Kosovo-Metohija despite proof of existence on this land for centuries...
When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers. But you belittle the Serbian sacrifice of losing over a quarter of its population by somehow implying that Serbia was bailed out "saved".
You sir are a racist. You pick whichever conflict from whichever era, and find a way to flat out lie and spread hatred at the expense of Serbs and Serbia. Obviously despite your corrupt govt's actions in supporting terrorism during the 90s, I know that most Westerners do not think this way. So if you want to be a racist Serbophobe that's fine, but where you have a mental complex is your thirst to express it on a Serbian website. You make a sincere effort to express your hatred everyday on here.
You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
(Ian, UK, 6 August 2014 10:45)
LOL! Look who's talking. The guy who brags about himself and uses personal insults.
Ian, I would humbly suggest that if you are going to make derogatory comments about other people's lack of intelligence (e.g. using offensive labels like "spaz"), it's probably not a good idea to use "its" (genitive) and it's (it is) incorrectly, especially when English is supposed to be your native language.
As someone who used to live in Croatia and is there right now, and who has neither Serbian or Croatian ancestry, I find a lot of the comments below the line here extremely depressing and proof positive that hatred, bigotry and intolerance still live on in the Balkans. Those commenters like Mirel who are celebrating the human suffering caused by Operation Storm and can't see that it was as much a war crime and crime against humanity as the shelling of Vukovar and Sarajevo (irrespective of the verdict reached by 3/5 judges in the Appeal Court) really need to take a long hard look at themselves. The day when commenters are able to unequivocally condemn the crimes of their own nations instead of celebrating the crimes committed against "enemy" nations will be the day that the region has really moved on. Twenty years after Operation Storm, sadly I see little sign of that. Shameful.
Kosovo fought for its independence from Yugoslavia just like Croatia. In fact Kosovo initially declared independence from Yugoslavia before Croatia.
I believe that Northern Kosovo should be a part of the Republic of Serbia not the Republic of Kosovo.
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(Ari Gold, 7 August 2014 17:30)
Again you have [probably deliberately] misread my comment. I never said Serbs were 'foreign' in Croatia. I said that the so-called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' was a "foreign sponsored puppet Government". Big difference!
There was an undisputed colonisation process in Kosovo in the 1920s and 1930s where hundreds of thousands of locals were deported and Serbs were brought into Kosovo to colonise and settle the newly conquered lands once WW1 was over. This is a fact.
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
(sj, 8 August 2014 11:14)
That's rich coming from you when you make up data and statistics to back up your outrageous claims.
SJ, not sure where you are trying to go with your comments. Operation Storm was, and always will be a huge ethnic cleansing tragedy. If Croatia is indeed toning down that celebration, that's a good start and hopefully they will completely eliminate that tragedy and see it for what it was. However, your points that Serbia is going to make some demands on Croatia and even have them go to 1918 borders is kind of absurd. Serbia does not have that kind of power, even if Russia and China became global super powers I don't see that scenario playing out. Even if Serbia was this great power, they shouldn't pursue it. It's time to go beyond those thoughts, just like Croats need to quit celebrating Operation Storm and destroying Cyrillic writings.
When Yugoslavia broke up in 1991, that is where the mistakes were made with the borders. The republics that formed Yugoslavia had borders redrawn and left ethnic groups in other territories. Those mistakes were not letting Krajina be part of Serbia, Republika Srpska go with Serbia, while Sandzak area goes with Bosna and any small patches of Serbia where it's all Croats go to Croatia. Peaceful, amicable, no blood. Why try to rule ethnic groups you don't want? It didn't happen that way sadly. So, after all the bloodshed and pain of war, why try and repeat that cycle? Rather, they should work on a mini EU style system amongst the former Yugo republics where everyone is independent, yet with a common cause of equality.
Croatians are fascists much like their Ukrainan Catholic brothers – both were trained as Vatican attack dogs to expand Catholicism and both have a hatred of their orthodox neighbours. It should be the opposite but it’s not. Even Germany are steering well clear of Croatia and Angela Merkel will not go to Zagreb on an official visit and no the recent gathering in Dubrovnik is not classified as an official visit – Merkal knows if she goes then its Nazi Germany helps their brothers the Croats.
Note how the Josipovic and the Croat generals did not show their faces this year for operation storm and that’s because Belgrade started to shake Zagreb’s’ cage and this is only the beginning.
Today’s borders in the Balkans were imposed by the powers to be at the time of the breakup of Yugoslvaia because it suited them and with a change of world powers the borders can change as quickly, its as simple as that and no Croat, Bosniak or Serb can stop it. It will happen.
Delegation after delegation of Russian parliamentarians that come to Serbia repeat the same mantra – that it is a great shame on Russia for not being able to help Serbia in its hour of great need and that mistake has to be rectified soon and it will be.
I dont want Serbs to rule anyone and I dont want Serbs to be part of any mini EU as that means carrying all these former republics on our backs. Slovenia –broke; Croatia – broke, Monenegro, BiH or Macedonia all broke.
BTW, my most recent comment was obviously aimed at Ian, UK the racist Serbophobe bigot with mental complexes who airs out his hatred of Serbs daily on B92.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
(Mirel from Albania, 6 August 2014 16:56)
But here's the thing, whether its the German and American mercenaries that helped carry out "Storm", or the NATO bombardment... one thing is for certain, no former EX-YU "brothers" could ever "punish" Serbia. Only outside forces can punish Serbia. So be it Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary, Nazi Germany or NATO... one thing that never changes is Serbia's weaker neighbours latch onto these foreign empires to do their bidding for them.
But of course what makes them foreign is that they do not belong there and eventually leave. Who is going to "punish" Serbia then? ROSU terror squads?! HA! They were pushed out of Mitrovica in 2011 by Serbian civilians and have not been back since without the presence of NATO-KFOR troops. Once again proving my point, you could never have your way with Serbia on your own.
When they leave, you will be singing a different (sad) song!
Here Ian goes again with his anti-Serb bigotry. Hey Ian, how can the Serbian gov't in Krajina (that survived well before Western meddling) be considered a "foreign" gov't if both Serbia and Croatia were at one time apart of the same exact country? Isn't it perhaps the fault of the communists for placing hundreds of thousands of Serbs in a Croatian republic? Sure, Serbs were gullible and I would say stupid for waiting until the 90s to fight against these unjust borders from an unjust totalitarian government, but to pretend as if Serbs were "foreigners" in these communities where they lived for centuries, is in fact bigotry.
You call Serbs "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija despite the fact that even in the unjust borders of Yugoslavia, Kosovo-Metohija was (and still is) a sovereign part of Serbia.
So Serbs are foreigners in land that was marked Croatian where hundreds of thousands of Serbs lived for centuries, and Serbs are also "colonialists" in a land where Serbs were systematically ethnically cleansed for decades before the 90s, and historically can take claim to the very oldest buildings standing on that territory.
So it doesn't matter what other nation is involved, or how hypocritical it is for you to support neo Nazism/Croatian nationalism in Krajina and also rabid Albanian radical separatism in Kosovo-metohija. The common denominator are in fact Serbs, and your very unhealthy hatred for them.
"But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000."
But Kosovo really is Serbian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Nato campaign.
Kosovo has a population of just over 2 million.
See, what I don't understand is how on one hand you clearly feel Croatians had a right to defend that territory. While you 'wish' that civilians didn't have to flee and the Srpska Krajina Republic was crushed without that, in the same breath you champion the KLA and Kosovo Albanians doing that exact same thing in Serbia. So why is that? Krajina and Slavonia had their parts with a huge Serbian majority of the population like Kosovo had big areas that are majority Albanian. Even right now in the current situation, Northern Kosovo has a majority Serb population that does not want to be governed by Pristina and yet you are against any of their rights to break away...however, you championed Kosovo breaking away. You see, this is where you get your reputation of being a Serb hater or Serbophobe, or whatever the terms are being thrown around.
Any time it has hurt or harmed Serbs/Serbia you were always for it. Anything that would be in Serbs'/Serbia's favor you have always been adamantly against it. The couple examples above are just a small sample of the bigger picture in why you have the reputation you do.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 09:02)
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
(Ian, UK, 5 August 2014 16:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celt back on the scene. Stick to cleaning bedpans and leave the real world to people that know more than you, which in your case would not be hard. Watch how the situation progresses in Ukraine, if the Russians win Croatia and Kosova are finished but if they lose its Serbia that loses all.
Its also very interesting how all the posts are from Albanians.
You can think all you like but Serbia is not Albania and I have been to both. Like the keeping of background information on potential clients you still don’t understand what the EU wants and that is for these former states to function as in the past so it takes the burden off Brussels.
What has Croatia/Slovenia have as their main source of income? Tourism and with the recent poor weather tourist numbers were catastrophically low. Now put on your thinking cap on for a moment and tell me how are they going 20 years after leaving Yugoslavia?
In Slovenia people are now demanding an explanation to the lies told by people like Milan Kucan that they will live better being “free”. In Croatia every year more and more are visiting Tito’ birth place on his birthday and its young people not the old communist.
The west destroyed Serbia’s economy so it will take time to rebuild, but of all the former republic Serbia has the most potential.
IDK, maybe it will, maybe it wont. I am just sharing what is being said by some Dalmatians on facebook (there is a pro Dalmantian sepratist fb page)... yes I would like to see Croatia break up so I myself would love to see it happen. I don't think you are in charge of deciding what will happen and what wont. But Scotland leaving the UK and then the UK leaving the EU is far more likely, I agree.
Oh ya the "egg is on my face" because I said Germany which led the Central Powers instead of saying all the Central Powers....
Yes of course you were celebrating ethnic cleansing when you said "Slavonia is REALLY Croatian" because before the ethnic cleansing of Oluja (which you don't condemn because you are a racist bigot), Slavonia had a large Serbian community. In that sense it only became "really Croatian" after war crimes were committed. You don't recognize that, you view it as a part of Croatia and therefore being "really" Croatian. But Kosovo-Metohija is apart of Serbia and yet you view Serbs as "colonialists". See the racism? The bigotry? The unhealthy mental complex that you make a point to come on here and express?
I haven't ran out of things to say, I usually end my comment with the conclusion that everyone else here already has- you have hatred toward Serbs. Most Westerners are not this way despite their corrupt govts actions supporting Muslim terrorism and Croatian neo Nazim. What makes it unhealthy is your thirst to share it with us here everyday. Seek help.
(Nikolle, 6 August 2014 16:39)
Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients. This must be Albanian style banking with an abicus.
This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing.
France is teetering on being broke, UK its about 92% of GDP in debt and German banks are failing the stress test instituted by the EU.
Slovenia is rated as junk bond status. Croatia has been downgraded twice in the last 12 months by your rating agencies and neither can borrow a Euro cent on their own without Brussels providing guarantees. Even in its current situation Serbia can borrow money at a very reasonable rate on its own – rings any bells mate or do you need me to paint you a picture?????
I also find it amusing that someone from an Albanian background talks about piss poor countries.
Perhaps many have not noticed but this year there are very few faces of note celebrating the anniversary of operation storm and this will get smaller and smaller as Croatia tries to escape its fascist leanings. However, it’s all too late as the fate of Croatia is sealed and it’s not going to be pretty. As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existance very soon.
It’s what I have been saying all along that Ukraine itself is not that important but the eastern part is essential for Russia to dominate Europe and much to my absolute delight its proceeding extremely well. The desperation of the US is shown by the fact that they are providing arms, equipment and uniforms from their reserves and a wealthy country does not do that, or so I am told by people in the know.
Once that issue is resolved Belgrade will start to make demands on Croatia knowing very well that Zagreb cannot fulfil them and the pressure will increase by Serbia demanding 1918 borders and no one in Europe will be able to stop that from happening. Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
The Croats will never forgive or forget what the 'local' Chetniks did to the civilian population. Even the E.U can't push the Croatian Government to accept a Chetnik return. If a Chetnik sign can't last a day on a Vukovar wall how long do you think a brainwashed un-educated Knindza would last on Croatian soil. Lets be frank.... the Croatian Serbs hate Serbia that much that they would rather return to Lijepa Nasa and listen to Thompson, tolerate the 'U' in everyday life and mop floors for a living then live under Vucic's flood stricken and bankrupt Serbia. The Serbs in the last 30 years have become a very weak nation with no immediate escape from the hell it currently lives in. This is what happens to the corporate fat cats in BG when ZG stops sending you money. You got used to first class living and now are reluctant to go back to economy class- get used to it. Thank you Germany so much for supporting the destruction of YU and everything that twisted country stood for.
"As Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1 so it will remove it from existence very soon."
"Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Serbia did sweet FA for Croatia in WW1. Serbia was militarily defeated and exhausted in WW1, Serbia had to rely on allies for it's own liberation in the end after the Serbian army retreated through Albania to Corfu.
Have you ever been to Slavonia? Please go to Osijek and repeat that BS, you won't find a more Croatian place in the world than Osijek.
Now please do us a favour and stop sharing your wet dreams and fantasies with us, no-one cares!
IDK, maybe it will, maybe it wont. I am just sharing what is being said by some Dalmatians on facebook (there is a pro Dalmantian sepratist fb page)... yes I would like to see Croatia break up so I myself would love to see it happen. I don't think you are in charge of deciding what will happen and what wont. But Scotland leaving the UK and then the UK leaving the EU is far more likely, I agree.
Oh ya the "egg is on my face" because I said Germany which led the Central Powers instead of saying all the Central Powers....
Yes of course you were celebrating ethnic cleansing when you said "Slavonia is REALLY Croatian" because before the ethnic cleansing of Oluja (which you don't condemn because you are a racist bigot), Slavonia had a large Serbian community. In that sense it only became "really Croatian" after war crimes were committed. You don't recognize that, you view it as a part of Croatia and therefore being "really" Croatian. But Kosovo-Metohija is apart of Serbia and yet you view Serbs as "colonialists". See the racism? The bigotry? The unhealthy mental complex that you make a point to come on here and express?
I haven't ran out of things to say, I usually end my comment with the conclusion that everyone else here already has- you have hatred toward Serbs. Most Westerners are not this way despite their corrupt govts actions supporting Muslim terrorism and Croatian neo Nazim. What makes it unhealthy is your thirst to share it with us here everyday. Seek help.
Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius.
Now you might understand why our little Croats friends are very, very quiet.
(sj, 5 August 2014 11:46)
You must be talking about Serbian Kingdom, which is Belgrade with its surroundings, the same size you described Zagreb.
You still here posting your sh!t? Of course you are. We read the same crap yesterday, so it's not like you've anything new to add to the farce that you're Croatian or have ever been to Croatia. Go play on the highway.
Ah Ian is venting out his mental complexes on B92 again, only this time siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe instead of his usual choice, Albanian terrorists. Actually Ian, there is somewhat of a sentiment of Dalmatian identity that could lead to independence in the coming decades. Croatia is an extremely indebted nation, oil was found off the coast of Dalmatia that will try to be extracted in a few years. The theory is that these revenues would stay in Dalmatia if they separated from Croatia. As long as the Croatian economy continues to decline and borrowing increases, this may become a reality.
As far as WWI, Serbia didn't "need" the Allies, Serbia was a founding member OF the Allies. Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win. Doesn't mean anyone bailed Serbia out, nor does it mean Serbia was defeated because it stood on the side of victory at the end of the war.
Of course why am I explaining sheer logic to a ragging Serbophobe who deals with his mental fixation on hating Serbians by taking time out of his day to make it a point to come on a Serbian website to air out his hatred.
Hopefully you find a female (or male, whatever you're into) soon. I predict then you will be less on B92 and more of a functional person of your soon EU less society! (The UK is leaving your beloved EU, incase you didn't know. But not before the UK itself *may* become smaller by Scotland leaving).
Thank you to the Croatian Army for returning occupied territory back to the Republic of Croatia and allowing my family and the thousands of others to return to their homes 4 years after being driven out. There is still a lot of work to do to repair our village, but today it is in better condition than what we found in 1995 and the most houses and the church has been rebuilt.
Croatians are fascists much like their Ukrainan Catholic brothers – both were trained as Vatican attack dogs to expand Catholicism and both have a hatred of their orthodox neighbours. It should be the opposite but it’s not. Even Germany are steering well clear of Croatia and Angela Merkel will not go to Zagreb on an official visit and no the recent gathering in Dubrovnik is not classified as an official visit – Merkal knows if she goes then its Nazi Germany helps their brothers the Croats.
Note how the Josipovic and the Croat generals did not show their faces this year for operation storm and that’s because Belgrade started to shake Zagreb’s’ cage and this is only the beginning.
Today’s borders in the Balkans were imposed by the powers to be at the time of the breakup of Yugoslvaia because it suited them and with a change of world powers the borders can change as quickly, its as simple as that and no Croat, Bosniak or Serb can stop it. It will happen.
Delegation after delegation of Russian parliamentarians that come to Serbia repeat the same mantra – that it is a great shame on Russia for not being able to help Serbia in its hour of great need and that mistake has to be rectified soon and it will be.
I dont want Serbs to rule anyone and I dont want Serbs to be part of any mini EU as that means carrying all these former republics on our backs. Slovenia –broke; Croatia – broke, Monenegro, BiH or Macedonia all broke.
oh ian, minister of military might. yes, little serbia did need help. it was attacked by a country 10 times its size in population, landmass, resources and wealth. however uk, a comparably sized nation to germany needed help in both world wars to free itself. pretty high and mighty needing the help of real canadian soldiers to free you isles.
it took the might of france, england, canada, russia and more to defeat germany, and you want to slag serbia for not being able to handle it on its own.
perspective seems to have left your island once the sun set on the british crown.
regarding slavonia, have you been to the outlying regions, not osiek, vukovar or vinkovci? have you been there prior to the ethnic cleansing? it would be harder to find a more serbian place than the rural areas of slaviona before croatians espunged them en mass.
In what way was I "siding with Croatian neo nazi Ustashe"? All I said was that Slavonia is very Croatian. Croatia has a population of 4.3 Million, ie a very small population. Do you really think it would be significantly different for Dalmatia to go it alone due to oil when Croatia already has a small population?
With WW1 you obviously misread my comment. I said "Serbia had to rely on allies" (lowercase "a") not that Serbia had to really on "The Allies" (uppercase "A"). Since you struggle to understand things, let me explain it for you; 'allies' is plural for the world 'ally' which means: "a state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose".
"Of course Serbia by itself could not stand up against Germany and expect to win."
This is more proof of your ignorance. Germany's role in the Serbian Campaign was rather limited, Germany was rather preoccupied with the Western & Eastern fronts; Germany's most notable presence in Serbia was the German Empire's 11th Army. Serbia predominantly fought with Austria-Hungary & Bulgaria in WW1. I'm surprised you didn't know this. Oh wait... no I'm not.
And what have I said that apparently makes me a "Serbophobe" this time? Am I a "Serbophobe" for telling sj that he was speaking BS by saying "Serbia gave life to Croatia after WW1"? Am I a "Serbophobe" for saying that Slavonia is Croatian? Is this what defines a "Serbophobe" in the world of Ari Gold these days?
It's not necessarily the population, it's the fact that the central Zagreb authorities would be in charge of administrating revenue generated from this hypothetical oil that is found on the Dalmatian coast.
Saying Slavonia is "really" Croatian is only legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs in that region. Funny how you use such disrespectful, slanderous remarks regarding Serbs being "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija (this despite the fact that the oldest buildings standing on that land are Serbian Orthodox Churches), and yet Slavonia is "really Croatian"? Why are Croats not colonialists in regions where Serbs AND Croats lived side by side for centuries? But Serbs are colonialists in Kosovo-Metohija despite proof of existence on this land for centuries...
When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers. But you belittle the Serbian sacrifice of losing over a quarter of its population by somehow implying that Serbia was bailed out "saved".
You sir are a racist. You pick whichever conflict from whichever era, and find a way to flat out lie and spread hatred at the expense of Serbs and Serbia. Obviously despite your corrupt govt's actions in supporting terrorism during the 90s, I know that most Westerners do not think this way. So if you want to be a racist Serbophobe that's fine, but where you have a mental complex is your thirst to express it on a Serbian website. You make a sincere effort to express your hatred everyday on here.
You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
(Ian, UK, 6 August 2014 10:45)
LOL! Look who's talking. The guy who brags about himself and uses personal insults.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
(Mirel from Albania, 6 August 2014 16:56)
But here's the thing, whether its the German and American mercenaries that helped carry out "Storm", or the NATO bombardment... one thing is for certain, no former EX-YU "brothers" could ever "punish" Serbia. Only outside forces can punish Serbia. So be it Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary, Nazi Germany or NATO... one thing that never changes is Serbia's weaker neighbours latch onto these foreign empires to do their bidding for them.
But of course what makes them foreign is that they do not belong there and eventually leave. Who is going to "punish" Serbia then? ROSU terror squads?! HA! They were pushed out of Mitrovica in 2011 by Serbian civilians and have not been back since without the presence of NATO-KFOR troops. Once again proving my point, you could never have your way with Serbia on your own.
When they leave, you will be singing a different (sad) song!
Dalmatia will never separate from Croatia PERIOD! You just want it to separate from Croatia because you hate Croatia and would like to see it break apart.
Slavonia is part of the Republic of Croatia, I don't understand how saying this can "legitimizes the ethnic cleansing done against Serbs". It is fact that Slavonia is part of Croatia.
There was an undisputed process of Colonisation in Kosovo unlike in Slavonia.
"When I said "Germany", obviously I meant the Central Powers".
No you didn't, you meant Germany because you wrote Germany. I know you're a spaz when it comes to history. The egg is already on your face and it is rotting already.
Brave little Serbia fought to the best of her capabilities in WW1 but allied forces had to assist in her liberation. This is historical fact, if you think that this fact somehow "belittles Serbia" then don't blame me because I wasn't there in WW1. I played no part in this.
I'm a racist? I've said nothing about race, people or ethnic groups. I have no hatred, I don't hate anyone.
You're just calling me a "racists" and a "Serbophobe" because you've run out of things to say, you don't know what else to do and can't come up with anything else. I'm used to this tactic. You're not intellectually capable of having a civilised discussion. You're scraping the barrel when you result to pathetic name calling.
I am sorry to say that,but Operation Storm show the world that the only language that serbs understand is the Storm.
Until the Storm happaned 1/3 of Croatia was under the foreign occupation and serbs rejected every peace plan.
They still didnt learn from Storm and they had to be punished again in 1999.
If Storm didnt happaned they will create RS in Croatia and they will sabotage every effort for peace,make Croatia a disfuncional state as Bosnia.
Croatia has every right to Celebrate Operation Storm because the Hague verdict said so.
Kudos for Croatia and long live Ante Gotovina,the great croatian hero!
BTW, my most recent comment was obviously aimed at Ian, UK the racist Serbophobe bigot with mental complexes who airs out his hatred of Serbs daily on B92.
(Nikolle, 6 August 2014 16:39)
Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients. This must be Albanian style banking with an abicus.
This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing.
France is teetering on being broke, UK its about 92% of GDP in debt and German banks are failing the stress test instituted by the EU.
Slovenia is rated as junk bond status. Croatia has been downgraded twice in the last 12 months by your rating agencies and neither can borrow a Euro cent on their own without Brussels providing guarantees. Even in its current situation Serbia can borrow money at a very reasonable rate on its own – rings any bells mate or do you need me to paint you a picture?????
I also find it amusing that someone from an Albanian background talks about piss poor countries.
Ian, I would humbly suggest that if you are going to make derogatory comments about other people's lack of intelligence (e.g. using offensive labels like "spaz"), it's probably not a good idea to use "its" (genitive) and it's (it is) incorrectly, especially when English is supposed to be your native language.
As someone who used to live in Croatia and is there right now, and who has neither Serbian or Croatian ancestry, I find a lot of the comments below the line here extremely depressing and proof positive that hatred, bigotry and intolerance still live on in the Balkans. Those commenters like Mirel who are celebrating the human suffering caused by Operation Storm and can't see that it was as much a war crime and crime against humanity as the shelling of Vukovar and Sarajevo (irrespective of the verdict reached by 3/5 judges in the Appeal Court) really need to take a long hard look at themselves. The day when commenters are able to unequivocally condemn the crimes of their own nations instead of celebrating the crimes committed against "enemy" nations will be the day that the region has really moved on. Twenty years after Operation Storm, sadly I see little sign of that. Shameful.
Here Ian goes again with his anti-Serb bigotry. Hey Ian, how can the Serbian gov't in Krajina (that survived well before Western meddling) be considered a "foreign" gov't if both Serbia and Croatia were at one time apart of the same exact country? Isn't it perhaps the fault of the communists for placing hundreds of thousands of Serbs in a Croatian republic? Sure, Serbs were gullible and I would say stupid for waiting until the 90s to fight against these unjust borders from an unjust totalitarian government, but to pretend as if Serbs were "foreigners" in these communities where they lived for centuries, is in fact bigotry.
You call Serbs "colonialists" in Kosovo-Metohija despite the fact that even in the unjust borders of Yugoslavia, Kosovo-Metohija was (and still is) a sovereign part of Serbia.
So Serbs are foreigners in land that was marked Croatian where hundreds of thousands of Serbs lived for centuries, and Serbs are also "colonialists" in a land where Serbs were systematically ethnically cleansed for decades before the 90s, and historically can take claim to the very oldest buildings standing on that territory.
So it doesn't matter what other nation is involved, or how hypocritical it is for you to support neo Nazism/Croatian nationalism in Krajina and also rabid Albanian radical separatism in Kosovo-metohija. The common denominator are in fact Serbs, and your very unhealthy hatred for them.
You can think all you like but Serbia is not Albania and I have been to both. Like the keeping of background information on potential clients you still don’t understand what the EU wants and that is for these former states to function as in the past so it takes the burden off Brussels.
What has Croatia/Slovenia have as their main source of income? Tourism and with the recent poor weather tourist numbers were catastrophically low. Now put on your thinking cap on for a moment and tell me how are they going 20 years after leaving Yugoslavia?
In Slovenia people are now demanding an explanation to the lies told by people like Milan Kucan that they will live better being “free”. In Croatia every year more and more are visiting Tito’ birth place on his birthday and its young people not the old communist.
The west destroyed Serbia’s economy so it will take time to rebuild, but of all the former republic Serbia has the most potential.
(Ian, UK, 5 August 2014 16:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celt back on the scene. Stick to cleaning bedpans and leave the real world to people that know more than you, which in your case would not be hard. Watch how the situation progresses in Ukraine, if the Russians win Croatia and Kosova are finished but if they lose its Serbia that loses all.
Its also very interesting how all the posts are from Albanians.
"But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000."
But Kosovo really is Serbian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Nato campaign.
Kosovo has a population of just over 2 million.
See, what I don't understand is how on one hand you clearly feel Croatians had a right to defend that territory. While you 'wish' that civilians didn't have to flee and the Srpska Krajina Republic was crushed without that, in the same breath you champion the KLA and Kosovo Albanians doing that exact same thing in Serbia. So why is that? Krajina and Slavonia had their parts with a huge Serbian majority of the population like Kosovo had big areas that are majority Albanian. Even right now in the current situation, Northern Kosovo has a majority Serb population that does not want to be governed by Pristina and yet you are against any of their rights to break away...however, you championed Kosovo breaking away. You see, this is where you get your reputation of being a Serb hater or Serbophobe, or whatever the terms are being thrown around.
Any time it has hurt or harmed Serbs/Serbia you were always for it. Anything that would be in Serbs'/Serbia's favor you have always been adamantly against it. The couple examples above are just a small sample of the bigger picture in why you have the reputation you do.
SJ, not sure where you are trying to go with your comments. Operation Storm was, and always will be a huge ethnic cleansing tragedy. If Croatia is indeed toning down that celebration, that's a good start and hopefully they will completely eliminate that tragedy and see it for what it was. However, your points that Serbia is going to make some demands on Croatia and even have them go to 1918 borders is kind of absurd. Serbia does not have that kind of power, even if Russia and China became global super powers I don't see that scenario playing out. Even if Serbia was this great power, they shouldn't pursue it. It's time to go beyond those thoughts, just like Croats need to quit celebrating Operation Storm and destroying Cyrillic writings.
When Yugoslavia broke up in 1991, that is where the mistakes were made with the borders. The republics that formed Yugoslavia had borders redrawn and left ethnic groups in other territories. Those mistakes were not letting Krajina be part of Serbia, Republika Srpska go with Serbia, while Sandzak area goes with Bosna and any small patches of Serbia where it's all Croats go to Croatia. Peaceful, amicable, no blood. Why try to rule ethnic groups you don't want? It didn't happen that way sadly. So, after all the bloodshed and pain of war, why try and repeat that cycle? Rather, they should work on a mini EU style system amongst the former Yugo republics where everyone is independent, yet with a common cause of equality.
Kosovo fought for its independence from Yugoslavia just like Croatia. In fact Kosovo initially declared independence from Yugoslavia before Croatia.
I believe that Northern Kosovo should be a part of the Republic of Serbia not the Republic of Kosovo.
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(Ari Gold, 7 August 2014 17:30)
Again you have [probably deliberately] misread my comment. I never said Serbs were 'foreign' in Croatia. I said that the so-called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' was a "foreign sponsored puppet Government". Big difference!
There was an undisputed colonisation process in Kosovo in the 1920s and 1930s where hundreds of thousands of locals were deported and Serbs were brought into Kosovo to colonise and settle the newly conquered lands once WW1 was over. This is a fact.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 09:02)
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
But Slavonia really is Croatian, both now and before the break up of Yugoslavia & Operation Storm.
Slavonia has a population of just over 800,000.
In the Croatian War of Independence between 300,000 to 350,000 Serbs left Croatia (130,000+ have since returned), 150,000–200,000 of which left during/ shortly after Operation Storm. How many of these Serbs left Slavonia rather than Krajina/ the Knin region? Also one has to bare in mind that Operation Storm didn't take place in Serb controlled far Eastern Slavonia.
Croats always were & are the vast majority population of Slavonia, that isn't "Serbophobic" as you'd probably say, that is a fact. So considering that Croats are the majority population of Slavonia (they always were) & that Slavonia is a part of the Republic of Croatia, it is fair to say that Slavonia really is Croatian despite Slavonia having a minority Serb population.
I think it is terrible that 150,000+ Serbs left Croatia during/ shortly after Operation Storm and I'm glad that many Serbs have since returned. I wish the Croats could have crushed the foreign sponsored puppet Government of the so called 'Republic of Serbian Krajina' without the Serbs fleeing. However I also think it is terrible that 220,000+ non-Serbs were forcibly removed from Serb held territories in Croatia from 1991-2. Have you ever condemned that? Have you ****! If anyone is racist, it's you with your derogatory comments against entire ethnic groups.
"carrying all these former republics on our backs."
Serbia? Serbia carrying other republics on its back? You must have Serbia confused with France or Germany or the UK. Serbia can't carry itself on its back, never mind others. there's nothing funnier then when people from piss poor countries (though why you, an Aussie, thinks himself a Serb I have no idea) think they are capable of looking after others. Your Malaysian friend is letting you down with the info he is supplying to you. Better establish new contacts
is that a pitch for Yugoslavia that I am reading? sunshine, both Slovenia and Croatia now are richer than Serbia. its not me that says it, its economic data that backs it up. both were richer republics than Serbia when they were all joined together as Yugoslavia. again, its not me that claims this, its economic data that backs it up. now, if the data has been lying to us all these years (and I know you have solid information from Chinese agencies that you can't disclose because of confidentiality clauses) then i can't do anything about that. however, that Serbia can afford to look after all those former republics and still have enough change left over for holy Kosmet and probably half of Albania and a bit of Greece, well, i can do nothing but laugh at that. oh and by the way, Serbia IS Albania, it relies on foreign remittance for its survival, like Albania. its not my fault that this is true.
"if 20 Euros stroy is all you have keep telling me about so I dont foget LOL"
no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
no sj, there are examples of your nonsense on this thread alone. just scroll down and we're faced with this:
"Istria will go to our good Italian friends, Dalmatia will be give its independence if they want it, Krajina will be part of Serbia as will Slavonia and Croatia will be everything outside of Zagreb in a 10 kilometre radius."
You must genuinely think that Tsar Dushan is going to make a comeback
(Nikolle, 8 August 2014 13:40)
Leave sj alone, he has a magic Crystal Ball to see into the future.
I remember once sj told me that Chinese Citizens don't need visas to go to Australia but British Citizens do. He told me that he knows this to be true because his Chinese friend's parents told him (that on its own is hilarious). I proved him wrong with links to the Australian Government Department of Immigration and Boarder Protection website. He talks a load of BS!
I now understand your problem and there is no point in debating as your not that bright and keep going around in circles. You talk through your arse and think its the truth.
(sj, 8 August 2014 11:14)
That's rich coming from you when you make up data and statistics to back up your outrageous claims.
not that bright? do you actually know what this means? it means one is bright, just not as much as one thinks. if you have any retort to any of my points, do put them forward, preferably though without you having to tell me that you're not allowed to share your sources due to confidentiality clauses. everything I wrote here can be easily verified.
"You talk through your arse and think its the truth."
whatever nonsense i may have shared with you, i have never written garbage like paid 20 EURO's in 1994.
"Where do I start with a person who thinks that lending large sums of money is done by just looking in their eyes and not keeping records on prospective clients."
I definitely don't think such a thing.
"This is the same person who would apply for a loan for say $300 000 to a bank to purchase a home and provide all information about himself and even authorise the lending authority to obtain his credit history, but when it comes to countries seeking hundreds of millions in loans he finds it incredible that the bank(s) would have a detailed history on the client. Amazing!!! Just amazing. "
nor do i think any of this.
p.s. however badly France's, Germany's or UK's economy may be performing now or will be in the future, they will ALWAYS be infinitely richer than tiny insignificant Serbia. Serbia, will NEVER be able to look after Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia. purely and simply, Serbia is in the same boat as Albania, it relies on outsiders for its survival. that you have delusions of grandeur is your issue
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