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Saturday, 14.01.2012.

14:13

K. Albanian group, police clash near crossing

Kosovo police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse Self-Determination Movement members near Podujevo around 14:30 CET.

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icj1

pre 12 godina

I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.
(sj, 15 January 2012 22:35)

I did not say whether it is negative or positive, dear. I just supported your factual statement that the status quo continues and Kosovo's UDI continues to be in accordance with resolution 1244 and that will be for a very long time. Whether that is positive or negative for Serbs, Albanians or the Eskimos, that is another story that we can discuss.

Reader

pre 12 godina

"If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products"

No, this is not about hurting Serbia. That is not the goal. The word circulating around is that Serbia agreed to accept the stamps, yes, but it is using other documents (certificate of origin etc etc) as a pretext to not let Kosovo products pass customs. On the other side, the Parliament of Kosovo voted to have full reciprocity with Serbia, but the will of the parliament is not being respected by Thaci and his government, because the Serbian products are still passing while the Kosovo products are not. This is what the protest is about, have the government of Kosovo respect the will of the parliament and full reciprocity, not to hurt Serbia. At least, according to people of the Self-Determination movement.

sj

pre 12 godina

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.
(Amer, 15 January 2012 01:44)

I thought hardline Croats were this delusional but the Albanians have overtaken them.
So with milk the Albos are going to bring Serbia to its knees? What planet are you living on?

Why doesn’t Kurti put on a “nationwide” boycott? Would it be that the Albos would hurt a lot more than Serbia?

In the end Kosovo cannot stand by itself and will be integrated into Serbia whether you like it or not. Its pure money talking here and nothing else. The EU cannot keep bankrolling your lot for ever

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.
(icj1, 15 January 2012 04:31)


I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Dear, not sure what Constitution you are speaking about. Kosovo’s UDI is in accordance with UNSC Resolution 1244 – end of the story; the result is what counts. If you are interested about the why, you can read the reasons that Kosovo and its supporters presented to the ICJ and ICJ agreed with.
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That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Sure, about 20 UN member states have said that they reject the UDI.
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If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

OK, great, because that’s already happening.
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If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

They will get there – Serbia is investing a lot of money in Kosovo, fortunately.
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What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Not sure what “gjakmarrja” is, but I trust your judgement that you are correct.

Ben Gjoka

pre 12 godina

The point of the matter here is simple. Kosova needs to stop paying so much attention to this russian gypsie state they call serbia and get on with its business. The only reason kosovo was part of serbia in the first place is bc russia got a say so in the european state lines after ww1 and serbs wrongfully got the land which never should have fallen into ur hands in the first plaxe. Serbs say kosova is the heart of serbia bc u changed old albanian catholic cgurches into ortgodox monestaries and u serbs pride urself on a battle in kosov against the turks that YOU LOST. And guess wat do ur hw and ull realize that albanians were in the balkans n,not,only kosova way before the 7th century, at the time when u russian gypsies came down from russia. Russia is serbias cradle, not kosova. So idk where or who brainwashed ur history but get it right. And tick tock tick yock kosova will never be serbia again....NEVER.

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.
(Eagle, 15 January 2012 07:22)

That's because Kosovo is Serbia & has a more sacred meaning to Serbs than Albanians
Icj1,

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.

That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.

If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together. If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.

What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo."

Avni

You think any serb cares if albanians fight eachother? These incidents contributes to instability in Kosovo and that is exactley what I would like to see. Instability in Kosovo is proof that the Kosovo project is failing and it draws attention to the plight of serbs and the failure of the west to create a banana republic on serbian soil.
At least this serb slept like a baby last night.

Eagle

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Status Quo continues.
(sj, 14 January 2012 21:05)

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.

icj1

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).
(george, 14 January 2012 21:27)

Why ? the water coming from water cannons is different if coming from the Kosovo Police (LOL) ? Or you are concerned that it is not status-neutral water (LOL) ?

Amer

pre 12 godina

"It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL)."


Ok, so next time he'll send in ROSU, if you really prefer. Just remember, the KP used water cannon the first day; KFor waited for weeks while they tried sweet reason.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.
(Balkan Serb, 14 January 2012 19:52) "

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ Dardany,

You're so ignorant to say that the bullets are being saved for Serbian criminals' heads. You forget that there are Serbian police officers working in the KPS and chances are you may very well have hit one of them with a snowball. This is unacceptable haha.

Freddy

pre 12 godina

Albanians ? Really now, what the hell is an Albanian or a Kosovar? The Afganistan of Europe fed daily by the rest of Europe because they don't want them in their own country. Its an enigma, a dark hole, that nothing good will ever come from it, history tells us so.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo.
(Avni, 14 January 2012 17:27)

I bet that makes you cowards so proud. You can attack small groups of Serbs surrounded in the south. Real tough. Bring your noise up north and see how fast you'll be running back to your masters crying wolf.

sj

pre 12 godina

It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.
(Dardany, 14 January 2012 17:27)

You Albanians have only one thing in your hands and that is not Serbia. You live from hand to mouth; your entire system of government would collapse without EU money and you have Serbia in your hands. I suppose when they made the movie Dumb and Dumber they must have been thinking of Albanians.
Yes that is very true that things are now very different from 12 years ago as the EU is on the verge of collapse and the Us is not too far behind it.
The police suing tear gas and water canon are Thacis. They will use even harsher methods soon as the economic catastrophe bites even harder.
Nothimg will change for you Albanians – nothing at all. In fact Thaci will force you all to back down and trucks will move normally.
Status Quo continues.

george

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).Where is GRUPPENFUHRER DREW,oh yes I forgot he is ready to attack Serbs for violence,it is so nice to see their NEUTRALITY and FAIR HANDEDNESS in Kosovo(LOL)

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..
(Karl, 14 January 2012 19:29)


Mate, our heros are saving the bulets for serbian criminals head so dont you worry about that. This protest has changed everything today, see what's gona happen in north soon. BTW its not 1 day protest, they will be there everyday from today. I'll bet you, all serb criminals in North of Mitrovica are packing their bags to vanish before it turns ugly for them and anyone staying on barricades.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones."
(bganon, 14 January 2012 17:22)

Probably he found out that playing the 'national card' is always helpful in the Balkans. And one more Balkan-inherent mentality seems to be the guiding principle: 'Something bad for my opponent is much better than something good for myself'

Balkan Serb

pre 12 godina

Whats the problem of trucks coming from central Serbia? Isn't that good economically for Kosovo! Just as if Kosovo had goods to send to Serbia it would be beneficial. Self determination doesn't understand the agreement between Pristina and Belgrade! This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.

Karl

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Even uber serbophobe Doris (I have medals and honorary degrees from Croatia, Bosnia & Albania) Pack of the European Parliament just told Kosovo Radio Dukadjin that Kurti's action is "madness".* This is great if the albanians biggest supporters are so against this. Looks like Thaci has shot himself in the foot with this.


*Why haven't we heard from the other uber serbophobe Ulrike Lunek?

bganon

pre 12 godina

Its sad that anything good in the self determination movement - opposition to Kos Albanian ruling cliques and anti corruption has vanished.

It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones.

Kozjak

pre 12 godina

Imagine what the EULEX and Feith/De Marnhac/Drew internationals have to say of the crime in the south od serbia's province folowing this ?

Probably very little and will try to brush it all under the carpet while pointing at Serbia. For example read this insight into EU overseer failure to act in US corruption deal on wasted un"patriotic" highway ;

"Feith didn’t intervene. In a July interview with Kosovo’s leading newspaper, he said he had not been aware of the problems surrounding the highway contract, although my note on the contract bears his handwritten comments. Asked “Why not?” he answered, “Ask the U.S.,” without explaining who – be it Washington, the embassy, Bechtel, or others – either kept him in the dark or persuaded him not to intervene while the Kosovo government was about to spend a colossal amount of money on an unnecessary highway tendered to Bechtel in a controversial manner.

Shortly after the contract was signed I outlined my doubts to EULEX, because corruption would seem a plausible explanation for several of its oddities. But there is no sign that the issue has been investigated."

- guess EULEX wouldn't want to investigate especially as they know the answer already - no doubt it just would not help to illuminate the west' own complicitness in corruption. Imagine the riots when the moneys spent and nothing but debt to show once the west pulls out ?

BT

pre 12 godina

They threw stones and scrap at the police, not snowballs and they did not shoot at the police officers as Serbian criminal groups did. B92 don´t twist the words

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Its nowhere on Kosovo Albanian media that protesters throw snowballs, if anything to laugh then laugh at serbian reporters who made this up. They've been throwing stones and metal objects. While serbian vehicles enter Kosovo and dont have to change number plates, why KAlbanians have to change them on entering Serbia? It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians need a selfdetermination movement if Kosovo is independent? Also if this Albin wants to prevent serbian goods from entering Kosovo why not attack the source; namely albanian shopowners.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians need a selfdetermination movement if Kosovo is independent? Also if this Albin wants to prevent serbian goods from entering Kosovo why not attack the source; namely albanian shopowners.

george

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).Where is GRUPPENFUHRER DREW,oh yes I forgot he is ready to attack Serbs for violence,it is so nice to see their NEUTRALITY and FAIR HANDEDNESS in Kosovo(LOL)

Balkan Serb

pre 12 godina

Whats the problem of trucks coming from central Serbia? Isn't that good economically for Kosovo! Just as if Kosovo had goods to send to Serbia it would be beneficial. Self determination doesn't understand the agreement between Pristina and Belgrade! This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.

BT

pre 12 godina

They threw stones and scrap at the police, not snowballs and they did not shoot at the police officers as Serbian criminal groups did. B92 don´t twist the words

sj

pre 12 godina

It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.
(Dardany, 14 January 2012 17:27)

You Albanians have only one thing in your hands and that is not Serbia. You live from hand to mouth; your entire system of government would collapse without EU money and you have Serbia in your hands. I suppose when they made the movie Dumb and Dumber they must have been thinking of Albanians.
Yes that is very true that things are now very different from 12 years ago as the EU is on the verge of collapse and the Us is not too far behind it.
The police suing tear gas and water canon are Thacis. They will use even harsher methods soon as the economic catastrophe bites even harder.
Nothimg will change for you Albanians – nothing at all. In fact Thaci will force you all to back down and trucks will move normally.
Status Quo continues.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Its sad that anything good in the self determination movement - opposition to Kos Albanian ruling cliques and anti corruption has vanished.

It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones.

Kozjak

pre 12 godina

Imagine what the EULEX and Feith/De Marnhac/Drew internationals have to say of the crime in the south od serbia's province folowing this ?

Probably very little and will try to brush it all under the carpet while pointing at Serbia. For example read this insight into EU overseer failure to act in US corruption deal on wasted un"patriotic" highway ;

"Feith didn’t intervene. In a July interview with Kosovo’s leading newspaper, he said he had not been aware of the problems surrounding the highway contract, although my note on the contract bears his handwritten comments. Asked “Why not?” he answered, “Ask the U.S.,” without explaining who – be it Washington, the embassy, Bechtel, or others – either kept him in the dark or persuaded him not to intervene while the Kosovo government was about to spend a colossal amount of money on an unnecessary highway tendered to Bechtel in a controversial manner.

Shortly after the contract was signed I outlined my doubts to EULEX, because corruption would seem a plausible explanation for several of its oddities. But there is no sign that the issue has been investigated."

- guess EULEX wouldn't want to investigate especially as they know the answer already - no doubt it just would not help to illuminate the west' own complicitness in corruption. Imagine the riots when the moneys spent and nothing but debt to show once the west pulls out ?

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones."
(bganon, 14 January 2012 17:22)

Probably he found out that playing the 'national card' is always helpful in the Balkans. And one more Balkan-inherent mentality seems to be the guiding principle: 'Something bad for my opponent is much better than something good for myself'

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..
(Karl, 14 January 2012 19:29)


Mate, our heros are saving the bulets for serbian criminals head so dont you worry about that. This protest has changed everything today, see what's gona happen in north soon. BTW its not 1 day protest, they will be there everyday from today. I'll bet you, all serb criminals in North of Mitrovica are packing their bags to vanish before it turns ugly for them and anyone staying on barricades.

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Even uber serbophobe Doris (I have medals and honorary degrees from Croatia, Bosnia & Albania) Pack of the European Parliament just told Kosovo Radio Dukadjin that Kurti's action is "madness".* This is great if the albanians biggest supporters are so against this. Looks like Thaci has shot himself in the foot with this.


*Why haven't we heard from the other uber serbophobe Ulrike Lunek?

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Its nowhere on Kosovo Albanian media that protesters throw snowballs, if anything to laugh then laugh at serbian reporters who made this up. They've been throwing stones and metal objects. While serbian vehicles enter Kosovo and dont have to change number plates, why KAlbanians have to change them on entering Serbia? It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.

Karl

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.
(Eagle, 15 January 2012 07:22)

That's because Kosovo is Serbia & has a more sacred meaning to Serbs than Albanians
Icj1,

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.

That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.

If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together. If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.

What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?

Eagle

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.
(Balkan Serb, 14 January 2012 19:52) "

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL)."


Ok, so next time he'll send in ROSU, if you really prefer. Just remember, the KP used water cannon the first day; KFor waited for weeks while they tried sweet reason.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo."

Avni

You think any serb cares if albanians fight eachother? These incidents contributes to instability in Kosovo and that is exactley what I would like to see. Instability in Kosovo is proof that the Kosovo project is failing and it draws attention to the plight of serbs and the failure of the west to create a banana republic on serbian soil.
At least this serb slept like a baby last night.

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ Dardany,

You're so ignorant to say that the bullets are being saved for Serbian criminals' heads. You forget that there are Serbian police officers working in the KPS and chances are you may very well have hit one of them with a snowball. This is unacceptable haha.

Freddy

pre 12 godina

Albanians ? Really now, what the hell is an Albanian or a Kosovar? The Afganistan of Europe fed daily by the rest of Europe because they don't want them in their own country. Its an enigma, a dark hole, that nothing good will ever come from it, history tells us so.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo.
(Avni, 14 January 2012 17:27)

I bet that makes you cowards so proud. You can attack small groups of Serbs surrounded in the south. Real tough. Bring your noise up north and see how fast you'll be running back to your masters crying wolf.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Status Quo continues.
(sj, 14 January 2012 21:05)

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.

sj

pre 12 godina

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.
(Amer, 15 January 2012 01:44)

I thought hardline Croats were this delusional but the Albanians have overtaken them.
So with milk the Albos are going to bring Serbia to its knees? What planet are you living on?

Why doesn’t Kurti put on a “nationwide” boycott? Would it be that the Albos would hurt a lot more than Serbia?

In the end Kosovo cannot stand by itself and will be integrated into Serbia whether you like it or not. Its pure money talking here and nothing else. The EU cannot keep bankrolling your lot for ever

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.
(icj1, 15 January 2012 04:31)


I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.
(sj, 15 January 2012 22:35)

I did not say whether it is negative or positive, dear. I just supported your factual statement that the status quo continues and Kosovo's UDI continues to be in accordance with resolution 1244 and that will be for a very long time. Whether that is positive or negative for Serbs, Albanians or the Eskimos, that is another story that we can discuss.

icj1

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).
(george, 14 January 2012 21:27)

Why ? the water coming from water cannons is different if coming from the Kosovo Police (LOL) ? Or you are concerned that it is not status-neutral water (LOL) ?

Ben Gjoka

pre 12 godina

The point of the matter here is simple. Kosova needs to stop paying so much attention to this russian gypsie state they call serbia and get on with its business. The only reason kosovo was part of serbia in the first place is bc russia got a say so in the european state lines after ww1 and serbs wrongfully got the land which never should have fallen into ur hands in the first plaxe. Serbs say kosova is the heart of serbia bc u changed old albanian catholic cgurches into ortgodox monestaries and u serbs pride urself on a battle in kosov against the turks that YOU LOST. And guess wat do ur hw and ull realize that albanians were in the balkans n,not,only kosova way before the 7th century, at the time when u russian gypsies came down from russia. Russia is serbias cradle, not kosova. So idk where or who brainwashed ur history but get it right. And tick tock tick yock kosova will never be serbia again....NEVER.

Reader

pre 12 godina

"If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products"

No, this is not about hurting Serbia. That is not the goal. The word circulating around is that Serbia agreed to accept the stamps, yes, but it is using other documents (certificate of origin etc etc) as a pretext to not let Kosovo products pass customs. On the other side, the Parliament of Kosovo voted to have full reciprocity with Serbia, but the will of the parliament is not being respected by Thaci and his government, because the Serbian products are still passing while the Kosovo products are not. This is what the protest is about, have the government of Kosovo respect the will of the parliament and full reciprocity, not to hurt Serbia. At least, according to people of the Self-Determination movement.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Dear, not sure what Constitution you are speaking about. Kosovo’s UDI is in accordance with UNSC Resolution 1244 – end of the story; the result is what counts. If you are interested about the why, you can read the reasons that Kosovo and its supporters presented to the ICJ and ICJ agreed with.
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That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Sure, about 20 UN member states have said that they reject the UDI.
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If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

OK, great, because that’s already happening.
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If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

They will get there – Serbia is investing a lot of money in Kosovo, fortunately.
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What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Not sure what “gjakmarrja” is, but I trust your judgement that you are correct.

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Its nowhere on Kosovo Albanian media that protesters throw snowballs, if anything to laugh then laugh at serbian reporters who made this up. They've been throwing stones and metal objects. While serbian vehicles enter Kosovo and dont have to change number plates, why KAlbanians have to change them on entering Serbia? It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.

Dardany

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..
(Karl, 14 January 2012 19:29)


Mate, our heros are saving the bulets for serbian criminals head so dont you worry about that. This protest has changed everything today, see what's gona happen in north soon. BTW its not 1 day protest, they will be there everyday from today. I'll bet you, all serb criminals in North of Mitrovica are packing their bags to vanish before it turns ugly for them and anyone staying on barricades.

BT

pre 12 godina

They threw stones and scrap at the police, not snowballs and they did not shoot at the police officers as Serbian criminal groups did. B92 don´t twist the words

MikeC

pre 12 godina

Why do albanians need a selfdetermination movement if Kosovo is independent? Also if this Albin wants to prevent serbian goods from entering Kosovo why not attack the source; namely albanian shopowners.

Balkan Serb

pre 12 godina

Whats the problem of trucks coming from central Serbia? Isn't that good economically for Kosovo! Just as if Kosovo had goods to send to Serbia it would be beneficial. Self determination doesn't understand the agreement between Pristina and Belgrade! This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.

Karl

pre 12 godina

Come on if your going to have a protest do it the North Kosovo way..Arson, Snipers and explosives. Snowballs I mean really who were you trying to hurt. Now a sniper bullet to a KP Officers head that would show them you mean business..

george

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).Where is GRUPPENFUHRER DREW,oh yes I forgot he is ready to attack Serbs for violence,it is so nice to see their NEUTRALITY and FAIR HANDEDNESS in Kosovo(LOL)

sj

pre 12 godina

It will change and I am telling you as we have Serbia in our hand now rather than 12 years ago where things were different. I would love to see freedom of movements from both sides but Serbian government is so ignorant and they're paying back.
(Dardany, 14 January 2012 17:27)

You Albanians have only one thing in your hands and that is not Serbia. You live from hand to mouth; your entire system of government would collapse without EU money and you have Serbia in your hands. I suppose when they made the movie Dumb and Dumber they must have been thinking of Albanians.
Yes that is very true that things are now very different from 12 years ago as the EU is on the verge of collapse and the Us is not too far behind it.
The police suing tear gas and water canon are Thacis. They will use even harsher methods soon as the economic catastrophe bites even harder.
Nothimg will change for you Albanians – nothing at all. In fact Thaci will force you all to back down and trucks will move normally.
Status Quo continues.

EU Dude

pre 12 godina

Even uber serbophobe Doris (I have medals and honorary degrees from Croatia, Bosnia & Albania) Pack of the European Parliament just told Kosovo Radio Dukadjin that Kurti's action is "madness".* This is great if the albanians biggest supporters are so against this. Looks like Thaci has shot himself in the foot with this.


*Why haven't we heard from the other uber serbophobe Ulrike Lunek?

Kozjak

pre 12 godina

Imagine what the EULEX and Feith/De Marnhac/Drew internationals have to say of the crime in the south od serbia's province folowing this ?

Probably very little and will try to brush it all under the carpet while pointing at Serbia. For example read this insight into EU overseer failure to act in US corruption deal on wasted un"patriotic" highway ;

"Feith didn’t intervene. In a July interview with Kosovo’s leading newspaper, he said he had not been aware of the problems surrounding the highway contract, although my note on the contract bears his handwritten comments. Asked “Why not?” he answered, “Ask the U.S.,” without explaining who – be it Washington, the embassy, Bechtel, or others – either kept him in the dark or persuaded him not to intervene while the Kosovo government was about to spend a colossal amount of money on an unnecessary highway tendered to Bechtel in a controversial manner.

Shortly after the contract was signed I outlined my doubts to EULEX, because corruption would seem a plausible explanation for several of its oddities. But there is no sign that the issue has been investigated."

- guess EULEX wouldn't want to investigate especially as they know the answer already - no doubt it just would not help to illuminate the west' own complicitness in corruption. Imagine the riots when the moneys spent and nothing but debt to show once the west pulls out ?

bganon

pre 12 godina

Its sad that anything good in the self determination movement - opposition to Kos Albanian ruling cliques and anti corruption has vanished.

It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo.
(Avni, 14 January 2012 17:27)

I bet that makes you cowards so proud. You can attack small groups of Serbs surrounded in the south. Real tough. Bring your noise up north and see how fast you'll be running back to your masters crying wolf.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"This is just trade or better yet one way because i don't know what Kosovo has to export! that would go to C. Serbia.
(Balkan Serb, 14 January 2012 19:52) "

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.

Eagle

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.

Ben Gjoka

pre 12 godina

The point of the matter here is simple. Kosova needs to stop paying so much attention to this russian gypsie state they call serbia and get on with its business. The only reason kosovo was part of serbia in the first place is bc russia got a say so in the european state lines after ww1 and serbs wrongfully got the land which never should have fallen into ur hands in the first plaxe. Serbs say kosova is the heart of serbia bc u changed old albanian catholic cgurches into ortgodox monestaries and u serbs pride urself on a battle in kosov against the turks that YOU LOST. And guess wat do ur hw and ull realize that albanians were in the balkans n,not,only kosova way before the 7th century, at the time when u russian gypsies came down from russia. Russia is serbias cradle, not kosova. So idk where or who brainwashed ur history but get it right. And tick tock tick yock kosova will never be serbia again....NEVER.

MikeC

pre 12 godina

"I bet Kosovo Serbs won't sleep well tonight. You never know how Albanian population will respond in other parts of Kosovo."

Avni

You think any serb cares if albanians fight eachother? These incidents contributes to instability in Kosovo and that is exactley what I would like to see. Instability in Kosovo is proof that the Kosovo project is failing and it draws attention to the plight of serbs and the failure of the west to create a banana republic on serbian soil.
At least this serb slept like a baby last night.

Analyst

pre 12 godina

"It would appear that the only thing Kurti concerns himself with is supposed 'national' issues and not social ones."
(bganon, 14 January 2012 17:22)

Probably he found out that playing the 'national card' is always helpful in the Balkans. And one more Balkan-inherent mentality seems to be the guiding principle: 'Something bad for my opponent is much better than something good for myself'

Freddy

pre 12 godina

Albanians ? Really now, what the hell is an Albanian or a Kosovar? The Afganistan of Europe fed daily by the rest of Europe because they don't want them in their own country. Its an enigma, a dark hole, that nothing good will ever come from it, history tells us so.

Amer

pre 12 godina

"It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL)."


Ok, so next time he'll send in ROSU, if you really prefer. Just remember, the KP used water cannon the first day; KFor waited for weeks while they tried sweet reason.

trizo

pre 12 godina

It's funny in Kosovo, where serbs protest and block the roads with no problems, but when albanians do so Kosovo police beat the hell out of them. This is called Thaqikistan with elements of Ghadafi regime.
(Eagle, 15 January 2012 07:22)

That's because Kosovo is Serbia & has a more sacred meaning to Serbs than Albanians
Icj1,

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.

That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.

If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together. If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.

What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?

icj1

pre 12 godina

It's funny how Serbs are threated with Nato/Eulex force,but the Albanians throw rocks and metal objects at police and Nato/Eulex is nowhere to be seen(LOL).
(george, 14 January 2012 21:27)

Why ? the water coming from water cannons is different if coming from the Kosovo Police (LOL) ? Or you are concerned that it is not status-neutral water (LOL) ?

icj1

pre 12 godina

Status Quo continues.
(sj, 14 January 2012 21:05)

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.

icj1

pre 12 godina

The UDI was not deemed illegal because it was technically a loophole in the constitution. There was no precedent for this case and the UDI was not made in an official capacity, but rather a personal capacity of some 'members' of state.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Dear, not sure what Constitution you are speaking about. Kosovo’s UDI is in accordance with UNSC Resolution 1244 – end of the story; the result is what counts. If you are interested about the why, you can read the reasons that Kosovo and its supporters presented to the ICJ and ICJ agreed with.
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That's why there is a greater % of UN members who reject the UDI.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Sure, about 20 UN member states have said that they reject the UDI.
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If Albanians stopped attacking Serbs in the enclaves for no reason then perhaps we could get along and learn to live together.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

OK, great, because that’s already happening.
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If Albanians in Kosovo were more educated along with lower levels of unemployment then perhaps we would get along better.
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

They will get there – Serbia is investing a lot of money in Kosovo, fortunately.
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What do you have to say about the gjakmarrja? Do you think this 'tradition' has a place in Europe? Do you think that this stops a lot of kids going to school? Parents unable to go to work?
(trizo, 15 January 2012 15:55)

Not sure what “gjakmarrja” is, but I trust your judgement that you are correct.

trizo

pre 12 godina

@ Dardany,

You're so ignorant to say that the bullets are being saved for Serbian criminals' heads. You forget that there are Serbian police officers working in the KPS and chances are you may very well have hit one of them with a snowball. This is unacceptable haha.

sj

pre 12 godina

Milk, for example? Serbia has had trouble finding enough of that for its own market for years, while USAID has been supplying dairy farmers (Serb as well as Albanian) with modern equipment to increase output. I'm sure something could be worked out.

Anyway, if Kosovo really has nothing to export, as people here keep saying, why not open up the borders to them?

If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products - Kosovo is a lot more important to Serbian producers as a market than Serbia is to Kosovo's producers. It would be good for Kosovo's budget and producers would expand operations and hire new workers (as they did during the temporary period of "reciprocity" last summer. Kurti is wasting everybody's time with this business of standing in the road, fighting the police.
(Amer, 15 January 2012 01:44)

I thought hardline Croats were this delusional but the Albanians have overtaken them.
So with milk the Albos are going to bring Serbia to its knees? What planet are you living on?

Why doesn’t Kurti put on a “nationwide” boycott? Would it be that the Albos would hurt a lot more than Serbia?

In the end Kosovo cannot stand by itself and will be integrated into Serbia whether you like it or not. Its pure money talking here and nothing else. The EU cannot keep bankrolling your lot for ever

Thanks sj for reminding people abou that. The status quo of Kosovo's UDI being in accordance with 1244 will continue for a very long time.
(icj1, 15 January 2012 04:31)


I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.

Reader

pre 12 godina

"If Kurti really wanted to have an impact on Serbia, and not just get a lot of publicity photos for the next election, what he'd do would be to start a nationwide boycott of Serbian products"

No, this is not about hurting Serbia. That is not the goal. The word circulating around is that Serbia agreed to accept the stamps, yes, but it is using other documents (certificate of origin etc etc) as a pretext to not let Kosovo products pass customs. On the other side, the Parliament of Kosovo voted to have full reciprocity with Serbia, but the will of the parliament is not being respected by Thaci and his government, because the Serbian products are still passing while the Kosovo products are not. This is what the protest is about, have the government of Kosovo respect the will of the parliament and full reciprocity, not to hurt Serbia. At least, according to people of the Self-Determination movement.

icj1

pre 12 godina

I do like the way you try and turn my statements into positive for the Albanians. Actually status quo is not to the benefit of Pristina. The economic situation will hit that region very very soon and watch out as this summer will certainly be a summer of discontent and Thaci will use full force to try and keep happy Albanians under control.
(sj, 15 January 2012 22:35)

I did not say whether it is negative or positive, dear. I just supported your factual statement that the status quo continues and Kosovo's UDI continues to be in accordance with resolution 1244 and that will be for a very long time. Whether that is positive or negative for Serbs, Albanians or the Eskimos, that is another story that we can discuss.