Serbs "among Europe's most religious nations"

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Orthodox Christiam.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

95%? utter nonsense.

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone.

The more religious, the more extremist.

See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started.

This is surely not something to be proud of.

Tung

getting drunk and eating 2 kilos of dead pig on your slava doesn't make you religious.

@Arn.Sweden,

Well said. When people usually ask questions such as why does God allow evil, or why did He create faulty human beings (he did not), it is usually because they have not delved into the basic Christian theological explanations. The fact that we are allowed free will, to choose both good and evil, and to reap the rewards of both, is the most brilliant thing that God could do to teach us very important life lessons, and to develop character in us...character which will last for all eternity. No pain = no gain.

Going to Mt. Athos is a few weeks, can't wait, should be an once in a lifetime experience!

@SPCUK

I'm not making an argument, I'm sharing an observation, passing along my personal experiences.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about something in my post. I meant to say "when I'm visiting Belgrade". I haven't noticed this phenomenon anywhere else.

This article brings a smile to my face. Here in America, the most sensible people are generally atheists. This is because the religious right in this country completely distort the teachings of Christ because all the branches of Christianity here are so watered down and revisionist. These pseudo Christian sects are a bigger threat to our religion than Islam and Judaism combined.

Serbs stay true to your faith. The next few years the world will be changing, protests in the West leave our Albanians in our south worried that their biggest guarantor of theft will have bigger issues to deal with. Stay close with God and his son Jesus and nothing will stop us from making Kosovo.. all of Kosovo our cultural and spiritual capital once again.


With faith in God, Sa Verom u Boga

3. As some people left Serbia for the West (perhaps they didn't like it there), Kosovo Albanians could have left Serbia just as easily (in my example, for Albania).

Hey, if the Serbs didn't like the Ottoman Empire, why didn't they just move to Russia ;). Dump examples beget dumber examples

Moving away from the topic however

As for the merits of Islam & Christianity, they're both dogmatic religions. Ultimately they both say, love each other, that sort of thing, however, there are a lot of buts and ifs attached to those loves. Give me Hinduism or Bhudism over either Christianity or Islam anytime of the day. At least those ones don't condemn you to hell if you ask questions

pyrros

Whatever you have to say of the French and Germans, they are keeping your country from bankruptcy.

Truth be told, BG taxi drivers, especially in the airport, autobuska/zeleznicka stanica are unacceptably rude, pushy, and indecent. The same are in Sofia or any other balkan/south europe big city (in Athens-Greece/Napoli-South Italy they are far worse).
But that is totally irrelevant of Religion and cannot not excuse/justify Danilo's cheap attempt to use every mean possible to attack the Serbian nation.

All I can say is Serbia still has an awful lot of abortions for a country where 95% of the population believe in the sanctity of life, even unborn, and that premarital sex is wrong.
Not to mention intolerance and hatred towards those who are different, which goes directly against the teachings of Christ, although, unfortunately, seems to be a part of most organised religions.

95%? utter nonsense.

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone.
(Danilo, 6 October 2011 10:54)

A typical distortion of truth so typical to christian hater pseoudoliberal jews like you.

Danilo please lets not have another liberal atheist rant. Here you are making the argument that Orthodox Christian Serb taxi drivers are cheats and thievs because they are religious. Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values. My advice to you Danilo is that if you dont like it go and live in some bizarre place in the west which lacks values. As for your comment on 95% being nonesense, well what you say is nonesense, it is easily possible, afterall this is not singling out Orthodox Christians, but it puts together all other religions. Please Danilo have a think before you spew BS all over the commentry box.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about something in my post. I meant to say "when I'm visiting Belgrade". I haven't noticed this phenomenon anywhere else.
(Danilo, 6 October 2011 11:51)

Since you dislike Serbia so much, please do yourself and all of us a favour and don't visit. It's a big world and there are many other more suitable destinations for you, such as albania.

Cheers!!

There is too much chauvanism, ridicule, and intolerance in the comments sections here...sad.

I converted to Christianity rather late in life after much soul searching. Despite a career in academia, and a focus on the sciences and humanities, in the eyes of my peers, I took the seemingly "illogical" step to believe in the Jewish carpenter from Nazareth. The gospel (as it is refered to in Christian circles), when it is analyzed with regards to the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, is a powerful antedote to nihilism, skepticism, agnosticm, and atheism. While science deals with the observable, faith in Christ requires living in the Spirit: a reality no less real than other intangibles such as love or hate which are beyond the realm of science. Science does not provide the answers for life; relationship with the eternal God does.

I have seen true Chritianity practiced at times and in certain places, and I know how to distinguish between the evils committed in Christ's name (ie the Crusades), and true Christianity as displayed when a Christian doctor leaves his lucrative practive in the west to minister to the poor in the third world. It is unfortunate that there are some here who generalize and condemn all of Christendom for the sins of the few.

With open eyes, even in today's evil world, the presence of Christ can be witnessed and experienced. You need an open and unbiased heart to do so however.

"Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values."
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 11:31)

George W.Bush called himself religious, too, and believes he saw god and got a mission to accomplish. So much about values.

"Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values.
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 11:31)

I would doubt that. They are more tolerant and less extremistic. Religious people might have more values, but often wrong ones, like the Muslim extremists who call themselves 'religious'. And be assured:
- Moral values/human behavior (like compassion and helping others) existed without religion
- religion often perverts values (like priest/imams consecrating tanks or calling for 'holy wars')

You really have barely any knowledge on Orthodox Christianity.
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 17:57)

LOL no he doesn't since he took an existing list of Top 10 Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian, and just added the word "Orthodox". Orthodox spend more time being angry at Catholics and Muslims than polytheists :)

(The Truth Chicago, 6 October 2011 17:11)

I can se from your comments about Christianity that you err terrible.
You understands and read the Bible as The Evil one does.

As a Practitoner of the Full Gospel Christianity,
I could contradict every 10 comments you came up with,
but I rather leave that to God Himself.

There are everything in Christianity from naive infants to full grown Matured Ones,
and from your comments you are among the infants in Understanding.

Arn.Sweden.

Muslims at this forum certainly don't have the right to point fingers.
What good comes from Kosovo, Albania and the rest of the muslim world?
How many lives have albanian drugsmugglers ended/ruined by being the main supplier of drugs to Europe? Not to mention human trafficing, organ harvesting etc. And you want to teach Serbs about being religious. The muslim world is a mess. Its poor, intollerant and backward. Especially Kosovo and Albania. That is proof enough that islam is inferior to Christianity. Millions of muslims have left their "paradise" nation to come to a Christian country.
Praise Jesus!

The more religious, the more extremist. See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started. This is surely not something to be proud of. Tung (FREEDOM, 6 October 2011 12:32)

Here you go ladies and gentlemen, the nonsense of the year!

Ari Gold...why do you live in America or THE WEST if you believe they are guarantors of theft? Why do you not move to say Russia or China (countries which, according to Serb contributers here, will soon be ruling the world). Why do you choose to live the West if you hate it?
(adriatik, 6 October 2011 13:30)

Everytime I see an Albanian make this argument I think the same thought. And now I will respond.

WHY DID ALBANIANS KEEP LIVING IN KOSOVO IF THEY HATED IT SO MUCH?!? If it was so awful to live in Serbia, why did they stay there? Why didn't they go back to Albania if it was so bad in Serbia?

Top Ten signs that break the Ten Commandments

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Orthodox Christian.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

You shall have no other Gods before me. You shall not make yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me.

What generation are you from?

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

Your body will be buried in a casket and eaten and rot in dirt, if you are burned, some of your ashes will end up in the earth.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

You shall have no other Gods before me.


7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other Gods before me.

The Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses ordered that all Hebrew born shall be killed; Moses lamented you have mocked God, through your own mouth you will see the first born of every Egyptian die.

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

You shall have no other Gods before me.

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.


5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.


4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

You shall not steal;

Only a great creator can create a universe so perfect, from the gravitational forces that govern the Earth, the Direct and Alternative currents to the precise rotation of the earth, moon and sun. God spoke let there be light, so there was light.


2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

Some will even pray for you.


1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
(The Truth Chicago, 6 October 2011 17:11)

Read the 10 Commandments as a starting point.

The more religious, the more extremist.

See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started.

This is surely not something to be proud of.

Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 October 2011 12:32)

Taliban is no different :)

"Your so called personal experiences are not a qualification for you to make such a ridiculous statement"

My personal experience are not a qualification for my to state my personal experiences?

wat?

George W.Bush called himself religious, too, and believes he saw god and got a mission to accomplish. So much about values.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 October 2011 13:19)

Thats a total load of crap and I would love to see you pull up the quote that Bush had a vision from God to go to war. How do you go from this story about Serbian religion to your lie attributed to Bush. I know your really Obama and your still blaming Bush even here on B92.

Steve B

there's a very simple answer to that, Kosovo was their country. They born there. I'm assuming Ari Gold CHOSE to go to a western country. that was his choice. Kosovar Albanians did not choose to be born in Kosovo...did they?

@FREEDOM

funny that you mention Serbian Orthodox religion in the context of the 90s, since we all know that the wars were started by extremist islamists taking orders from saudi arabia (an american protectorate) and extremist fanatical nostalgic of nazi germany catholics who were taking orders directly from the Vatican/Germany (american also controlled territories).

Bringing up Orthodoxy in this context is the most hilarious an funny attempt to demonize (once again) the Serbs.

But we knew that didn't we? Who else would commit such crimes such as the ones in Srebrenica, if they hadn't been brainwashed by their religious leaders.

Thank God I'm an atheist!

SCP the way I understood it is that Danilo made the claim that taxi drivers that have a cross dangling under their rear view mirror are more likely to cheat a customer.

You spoke of religious taxi drivers. I'd say that just because somebody has a cross in their taxi does not make them religious and that just because somebody doesn't have one, does not make them atheist.


I have taken numerous taxi journeys in Serbia and my experience is that those with crosses are no more or less trustworthy than the others.

As for the story its not accurate. Even those that really are religious won't know 95% of people that are also religious. For every 10 people, that is over 9 of them are religious.

The statistics are wrong.

I also think its interesting that these statistics appear just before the census is completed. A number of people have said that when government workers come to their homes, if one says he doesn't practice religion or wants to put atheist in the box, the box is left blank.
Others say that when they are uncertain what to put, they are advised by government workers, which is illegal.

What that blank box is counted as later on is disputible. However, whether it is counted as 'did not reply' or something else it will make Serbs look more religious than they really are.

Steve B

there's a very simple answer to that, Kosovo was their country. They born there. I'm assuming Ari Gold CHOSE to go to a western country. that was his choice. Kosovar Albanians did not choose to be born in Kosovo...did they?
(adriatik, 6 October 2011 16:47)

1. Kosovo is not a country, nor was it then. (let's avoid arguing the present status for once)

2. The country they were born in is Serbia.

3. As some people left Serbia for the West (perhaps they didn't like it there), Kosovo Albanians could have left Serbia just as easily (in my example, for Albania).

AriGold,
How can i be albanian when i am 24x7 anti-albanian?

PS
Stop baptising as albanian anything you cannot understand.

Does anyone wonder why the massonic-atheist international powers are targeting Serbia on multiple sides?

I'm an American of Serbian descent and when i see Serbian Orthodox, I see one, not seperate!

I have doubts about such an assertion. I think that Serbs are no better no worse than other human beings. In all nations, some believe in God, others don't.

@Lazar,
that is so bad, i know what you are saying. Serbs IMHO (i am greek) are the best people i have met everywhere, and i have been to many places, balkans, north europe etc... They are by far the most socially-aware nation. In the Serbian heart there is a treasure of gold, and this i have observed in many many occasions. The same i have observed in many other Slavic nations. BUT, and this a big but, Serbs-Slavs have a terrible drawback, that holds them back. They are overly sensitive, proud which sometimes leads to arrogance and jealousy. If they were better organized they would not have to be afraid of anything (which leads to) being jealous. But, loose structures and discipline have that final effect. OTOH, i would not want Serbs to be like Germans, French -> cold blooded, rude, and socially stupid.

Serbs could convert to Islam. Can get nice tax reduction.

Serbs hate one another. Sad as it is, but it is so. There is too much jealousy and slander. People are far far far away from being real christians. Instead they are seljaks who speak behind peoples backs and even lie to their priests. Shame... but as we say, to su ta srpska posla. :( It's a shame that we can not be more smarter as an entire people. Look at the jews... so close and powerful, despite their small size. Meanwhile we want to kill one another. :(

The comming of a Great Christian awakening in Srbia.
Yugoslavia - read Srbia.

http://www.ourchurch.com/member/e/e/index.php?p=1_10_Yugoslavia

Srbia Ja volim te !!!.

Arn.Sweden.

BHNYC-should be more like BSNYC. Don't peddle the Srebrenica hoax here. Anyone who has read the reports of those on the ground know what happened, as I expect do you.

(pyrros, 6 October 2011 16:24)

You said you are Greek. Stop it. You are not Greek, you are Albanian. Just like "Montenegrin" is not really "Montenegrin" but rather...Albanian. We aren't stupid..

On my next post Ill comment under "Volkswagen boy" so I can pretend to be German..you think people will believe me?

Just stop it.

Sa Verom U Boga!

@Danilo
Your so called personal experiences are not a qualification for you to make such a ridiculous statement. My advice to you would be not to take a taxi in Belgrade if the crosses hanging from the rear-view mirror annoy you so much.

The definition of whether a person is "religious" or not is purely subjective, and is different from person to person. In my opinion, that's the essence and core of religion and faith - it's about the personal bond between the person and the deity they choose to believe in, whether it be the Judeo-Christian God, Buddha, a Hindu God etc. From what I can see (living in a secular country, with an underlying Christian majority), the modern day church's primary activities aren't really in ensuring that all members of the parish are praying at certain times, in a certain manner, are fasting to the exact word of the Bible, aren't having sex etc. but are more in assisting local communities with certain problems, whether they be social, ethical, financial - whatever. I mean, not that they never did that previously, but it just seems that the modern-day church is far more of a social institution used to power the community, rather than a separate body which regulated the way in which a large proportion of the population lived.

As such, people's own opinions on faith are much more diverse than they used to be. Certain individuals are pretty liberal in their interpretation of religious texts, even though they continue to possess a faith and trust in a deity (like myself, for example), and you still have those who choose to follow the Bible, word-by-word, for moral guidance and support. Similarly, an individual's opinion on whether they're religious or not is also diverse. I'm a baptised Orthodox Christian - I abstain from all food on Good Friday, Christmas Eve, the 27th of September and the 18th of January, I wear a crucifix around my neck, and even have one of those ornate, wooden Orthodox crosses hanging around the rear-view mirror of my car (I don't rip my friends off when I'm driving them, though... Danilo). But having said that, I also drink alcohol, swear, curse, have sex even though I'm not married etc. but I'd still term myself as religious since, by and large, I still treat people with respect and dignity, am honest and reasonable, and still have faith in God.

Contrast me with an older, more conservative woman who reads the bible every day, fasts according to traditional Orthodox dietary customs, goes to church every Sunday, and prays bi-daily. We're both "religious", but in completely disparate ways. Hence, I doubt that 95% of Serbians go to church every Sunday or believe in God in the same way as one another. But, 'tis refreshing to see that, after such a long period of communism, faith and trust in religion still remains to such a high level, in contrast to places like Latvia and the Czech Republic, where you now have more full-blown Atheists than even secular Christians.

Nema krsta bez tri prsta!

"The more religious, the more extremist."

Actually there's enough in history to support this assertion. The Crusades were not carried out by atheists. Nor was 9/11 done by moderates. There's more proof to back up this statement than there is to challenge it

@The Truth Chicago

After all the rubbish that you have just said I do not believe you will go to hell, rather you are totally misguided and need an awful lot of education on the matter. You really have barely any knowledge on Orthodox Christianity.

Frankly to be less religious is a blessing. I find most people who are of any faith and believe in it fervently, do so, not out of genuine belief in God, but because they afraid of Hell. Essentially they are trying to trick their way into Heaven!! There's faith and then there's hard core logic. Whilst without God there'd have been no civilizations to speak of (thats how they all started, a monument here, a tribute there), truth is, once we look at history, we find that most conflicts have come about due to beliefs in a Deity, especially in the last 2000 years or so. One does not need need to believe in God to have good morals. All you need is common sense.

Ari Gold...why do you live in America or THE WEST if you believe they are guarantors of theft? Why do you not move to say Russia or China (countries which, according to Serb contributers here, will soon be ruling the world). Why do you choose to live the West if you hate it?

Jonathan said:

"Whatever you have to say of the French and Germans, they are keeping your country from bankruptcy."

Pocket is far less important than the head. And the sad thing is we are mentally bankrupt, not monetarily.

"The more religious, the more extremist. "-Tung

the more intolerant of other people's opinion, the more extremist...

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off(Danilo, 6 October 2011 10:54)

LOL!!! I know for a fact that taxis have taxi meters that should be set either to tarif 1 or 2. If you get into a taxi and the meter is not switched on then who's the fool? My advice, next time you get a taxi, try not to mention how much you hate Serbians and the driver may not attempt to rip you off.

Top ten signs you are an ignorant buffoon-see below

To the Belowe Charachter - i Quote

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Comment -
Right.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Comment -
Right.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Comment -
You cant blame God for Evil.
Evil comes from Me and You,
according to our Undertanding and Free Will of action.

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Comment -
HE is bouth able and willing but Longsuffering.

IT DOES NOT EXIST....

Comment -
Yes it Does.

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

Comment -
Mere Speculation - You have never experienced bouth.

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. We have a hand full here posting.

Comment -
God is bouth All-knowing and ALL powefull and His created Human beings was not Created Faulty.
They where created with a Free Will as such, as God Himself, to obey or disobey God,
They could chose whatever they wanted.
God as All-Powefull/Omni-Potent does not meand He is an Totalitarian Dictator wielding Power in an Totalitarian way,
He created You with a Free Will to be Used Freely, but in the End he will hold You Acountable for what you have done with it,
as He is able by His Omnipotense,
and as according to Your own understanding as He is All-Knowing/Omniscient and sees to and into the Heart of Humans.

Keep your believes to yourself, cause we really don't care to hear and see it....

Comment -
This will never happen.

Religion = Organized Confusion - and I don't care what religion we're talking about.

Comment -
True Religion has no Confusion since the true God is All-Knowing/Omnisciant.

Yes, I did, I said it.
(Pls say it ain't so!!, 7 October 2011 08:04)

It is written -
" A fool only cares to put forwrd what is in his heart " !.

Arn.Sweden.

"But we knew that didn't we? Who else would commit such crimes such as the ones in Srebrenica, if they hadn't been brainwashed by their religious leaders."

I don't see how your (incorrect) speculation about why Srebrenica happened adds anything of value to the discussion. I mean it's easy to have opinions about everything when you dream up theories to support them. I don't know what part of your post is more ignorant, dreaming something up to find a connection in order to blame religion, or the actuall "fact" that you made up...

Kind of interesting from a Biblical perspective Serbia a Christian nation is being demonized,destroyed and attacked by Islam from the East and secular anti-Christ EU from West. World leaders in my view have sold out to the fallen Cherub.Serbia will never deny Christ even if the price we pay is destruction. Lazar promised to fight for the kingdom of Christ in heaven and lose Kosovo-Metohija in this wicked world.Satan took Kosovo and it will be regained if it is Christ's will.

Regarding Christianity and Islam !.

Christianity is founded on the Rising of Jesus the Christ from the Dead.

Islam in the Koran Explicitly denie His Resurection.


Christianity and Islam has nothing in common!.

So - bouth can not be right as they contradict Each Other.

Draw your own conclusions !.

Arn.Sweden.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

IT DOES NOT EXIST....

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. We have a hand full here posting.

Keep your believes to yourself, cause we really don't care to hear and see it....

Religion = Organized Confusion - and I don't care what religion we're talking about.

Yes, I did, I said it.

"I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone."

Wich is still better from public hanging of priests,nuns etc. What atheists did...Wel they no longer call them selves communists but try to hide in the westner river of atheism but we know who they (you) are...

If people want to belive they do,SPC never held any marathones for popularity,forced belivers to turn to orthodoxy or similar so I can honestly say that orthodoxy is the most socialy advanced religion. AND we do not have the education problem with atheists...Need I remind you of veronauka and gradjansko? In America,recently,atheist vs chatolics almost raged war since both sides wanted eather all kids to pray or to forbid prayers... Considering that here it's the other way around and that religious people are victims of atheism,thanks to communism, you shoud be grateful for the freedom you have. The only way to explain people such as you,that want to forbid religion of all shapes...... I already did,communist. Freedom for belief!

95%? utter nonsense.

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone.
(Danilo, 6 October 2011 10:54)

A typical distortion of truth so typical to christian hater pseoudoliberal jews like you.

Steve B

there's a very simple answer to that, Kosovo was their country. They born there. I'm assuming Ari Gold CHOSE to go to a western country. that was his choice. Kosovar Albanians did not choose to be born in Kosovo...did they?
(adriatik, 6 October 2011 16:47)

1. Kosovo is not a country, nor was it then. (let's avoid arguing the present status for once)

2. The country they were born in is Serbia.

3. As some people left Serbia for the West (perhaps they didn't like it there), Kosovo Albanians could have left Serbia just as easily (in my example, for Albania).

This article brings a smile to my face. Here in America, the most sensible people are generally atheists. This is because the religious right in this country completely distort the teachings of Christ because all the branches of Christianity here are so watered down and revisionist. These pseudo Christian sects are a bigger threat to our religion than Islam and Judaism combined.

Serbs stay true to your faith. The next few years the world will be changing, protests in the West leave our Albanians in our south worried that their biggest guarantor of theft will have bigger issues to deal with. Stay close with God and his son Jesus and nothing will stop us from making Kosovo.. all of Kosovo our cultural and spiritual capital once again.


With faith in God, Sa Verom u Boga

@The Truth Chicago

After all the rubbish that you have just said I do not believe you will go to hell, rather you are totally misguided and need an awful lot of education on the matter. You really have barely any knowledge on Orthodox Christianity.

95%? utter nonsense.

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone.

Danilo please lets not have another liberal atheist rant. Here you are making the argument that Orthodox Christian Serb taxi drivers are cheats and thievs because they are religious. Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values. My advice to you Danilo is that if you dont like it go and live in some bizarre place in the west which lacks values. As for your comment on 95% being nonesense, well what you say is nonesense, it is easily possible, afterall this is not singling out Orthodox Christians, but it puts together all other religions. Please Danilo have a think before you spew BS all over the commentry box.

I'm an American of Serbian descent and when i see Serbian Orthodox, I see one, not seperate!

Does anyone wonder why the massonic-atheist international powers are targeting Serbia on multiple sides?

The more religious, the more extremist.

See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started.

This is surely not something to be proud of.

Tung

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Orthodox Christiam.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Top Ten signs that break the Ten Commandments

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Orthodox Christian.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

You shall have no other Gods before me. You shall not make yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me.

What generation are you from?

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

Your body will be buried in a casket and eaten and rot in dirt, if you are burned, some of your ashes will end up in the earth.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

You shall have no other Gods before me.


7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; you shall have no other Gods before me.

The Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses ordered that all Hebrew born shall be killed; Moses lamented you have mocked God, through your own mouth you will see the first born of every Egyptian die.

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

You shall have no other Gods before me.

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.


5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.


4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

You shall not steal;

Only a great creator can create a universe so perfect, from the gravitational forces that govern the Earth, the Direct and Alternative currents to the precise rotation of the earth, moon and sun. God spoke let there be light, so there was light.


2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

Some will even pray for you.


1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
(The Truth Chicago, 6 October 2011 17:11)

Read the 10 Commandments as a starting point.

"The more religious, the more extremist. "-Tung

the more intolerant of other people's opinion, the more extremist...

BHNYC-should be more like BSNYC. Don't peddle the Srebrenica hoax here. Anyone who has read the reports of those on the ground know what happened, as I expect do you.

I have doubts about such an assertion. I think that Serbs are no better no worse than other human beings. In all nations, some believe in God, others don't.

@Lazar,
that is so bad, i know what you are saying. Serbs IMHO (i am greek) are the best people i have met everywhere, and i have been to many places, balkans, north europe etc... They are by far the most socially-aware nation. In the Serbian heart there is a treasure of gold, and this i have observed in many many occasions. The same i have observed in many other Slavic nations. BUT, and this a big but, Serbs-Slavs have a terrible drawback, that holds them back. They are overly sensitive, proud which sometimes leads to arrogance and jealousy. If they were better organized they would not have to be afraid of anything (which leads to) being jealous. But, loose structures and discipline have that final effect. OTOH, i would not want Serbs to be like Germans, French -> cold blooded, rude, and socially stupid.

George W.Bush called himself religious, too, and believes he saw god and got a mission to accomplish. So much about values.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 October 2011 13:19)

Thats a total load of crap and I would love to see you pull up the quote that Bush had a vision from God to go to war. How do you go from this story about Serbian religion to your lie attributed to Bush. I know your really Obama and your still blaming Bush even here on B92.

@SPCUK

I'm not making an argument, I'm sharing an observation, passing along my personal experiences.

Top ten signs you are an ignorant buffoon-see below

Truth be told, BG taxi drivers, especially in the airport, autobuska/zeleznicka stanica are unacceptably rude, pushy, and indecent. The same are in Sofia or any other balkan/south europe big city (in Athens-Greece/Napoli-South Italy they are far worse).
But that is totally irrelevant of Religion and cannot not excuse/justify Danilo's cheap attempt to use every mean possible to attack the Serbian nation.

Ari Gold...why do you live in America or THE WEST if you believe they are guarantors of theft? Why do you not move to say Russia or China (countries which, according to Serb contributers here, will soon be ruling the world). Why do you choose to live the West if you hate it?
(adriatik, 6 October 2011 13:30)

Everytime I see an Albanian make this argument I think the same thought. And now I will respond.

WHY DID ALBANIANS KEEP LIVING IN KOSOVO IF THEY HATED IT SO MUCH?!? If it was so awful to live in Serbia, why did they stay there? Why didn't they go back to Albania if it was so bad in Serbia?

The comming of a Great Christian awakening in Srbia.
Yugoslavia - read Srbia.

http://www.ourchurch.com/member/e/e/index.php?p=1_10_Yugoslavia

Srbia Ja volim te !!!.

Arn.Sweden.

Muslims at this forum certainly don't have the right to point fingers.
What good comes from Kosovo, Albania and the rest of the muslim world?
How many lives have albanian drugsmugglers ended/ruined by being the main supplier of drugs to Europe? Not to mention human trafficing, organ harvesting etc. And you want to teach Serbs about being religious. The muslim world is a mess. Its poor, intollerant and backward. Especially Kosovo and Albania. That is proof enough that islam is inferior to Christianity. Millions of muslims have left their "paradise" nation to come to a Christian country.
Praise Jesus!

The more religious, the more extremist.

See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started.

This is surely not something to be proud of.

Tung
(FREEDOM, 6 October 2011 12:32)

Taliban is no different :)

Jonathan said:

"Whatever you have to say of the French and Germans, they are keeping your country from bankruptcy."

Pocket is far less important than the head. And the sad thing is we are mentally bankrupt, not monetarily.

3. As some people left Serbia for the West (perhaps they didn't like it there), Kosovo Albanians could have left Serbia just as easily (in my example, for Albania).

Hey, if the Serbs didn't like the Ottoman Empire, why didn't they just move to Russia ;). Dump examples beget dumber examples

Moving away from the topic however

As for the merits of Islam & Christianity, they're both dogmatic religions. Ultimately they both say, love each other, that sort of thing, however, there are a lot of buts and ifs attached to those loves. Give me Hinduism or Bhudism over either Christianity or Islam anytime of the day. At least those ones don't condemn you to hell if you ask questions

There is too much chauvanism, ridicule, and intolerance in the comments sections here...sad.

I converted to Christianity rather late in life after much soul searching. Despite a career in academia, and a focus on the sciences and humanities, in the eyes of my peers, I took the seemingly "illogical" step to believe in the Jewish carpenter from Nazareth. The gospel (as it is refered to in Christian circles), when it is analyzed with regards to the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, is a powerful antedote to nihilism, skepticism, agnosticm, and atheism. While science deals with the observable, faith in Christ requires living in the Spirit: a reality no less real than other intangibles such as love or hate which are beyond the realm of science. Science does not provide the answers for life; relationship with the eternal God does.

I have seen true Chritianity practiced at times and in certain places, and I know how to distinguish between the evils committed in Christ's name (ie the Crusades), and true Christianity as displayed when a Christian doctor leaves his lucrative practive in the west to minister to the poor in the third world. It is unfortunate that there are some here who generalize and condemn all of Christendom for the sins of the few.

With open eyes, even in today's evil world, the presence of Christ can be witnessed and experienced. You need an open and unbiased heart to do so however.

(The Truth Chicago, 6 October 2011 17:11)

I can se from your comments about Christianity that you err terrible.
You understands and read the Bible as The Evil one does.

As a Practitoner of the Full Gospel Christianity,
I could contradict every 10 comments you came up with,
but I rather leave that to God Himself.

There are everything in Christianity from naive infants to full grown Matured Ones,
and from your comments you are among the infants in Understanding.

Arn.Sweden.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about something in my post. I meant to say "when I'm visiting Belgrade". I haven't noticed this phenomenon anywhere else.

Sorry, I wasn't clear about something in my post. I meant to say "when I'm visiting Belgrade". I haven't noticed this phenomenon anywhere else.
(Danilo, 6 October 2011 11:51)

Since you dislike Serbia so much, please do yourself and all of us a favour and don't visit. It's a big world and there are many other more suitable destinations for you, such as albania.

Cheers!!

But we knew that didn't we? Who else would commit such crimes such as the ones in Srebrenica, if they hadn't been brainwashed by their religious leaders.

Thank God I'm an atheist!

The more religious, the more extremist. See dark ages and the wars in the 20th century which Serbs have started. This is surely not something to be proud of. Tung (FREEDOM, 6 October 2011 12:32)

Here you go ladies and gentlemen, the nonsense of the year!

@Danilo
Your so called personal experiences are not a qualification for you to make such a ridiculous statement. My advice to you would be not to take a taxi in Belgrade if the crosses hanging from the rear-view mirror annoy you so much.

"The more religious, the more extremist."

Actually there's enough in history to support this assertion. The Crusades were not carried out by atheists. Nor was 9/11 done by moderates. There's more proof to back up this statement than there is to challenge it

@FREEDOM

funny that you mention Serbian Orthodox religion in the context of the 90s, since we all know that the wars were started by extremist islamists taking orders from saudi arabia (an american protectorate) and extremist fanatical nostalgic of nazi germany catholics who were taking orders directly from the Vatican/Germany (american also controlled territories).

Bringing up Orthodoxy in this context is the most hilarious an funny attempt to demonize (once again) the Serbs.

Steve B

there's a very simple answer to that, Kosovo was their country. They born there. I'm assuming Ari Gold CHOSE to go to a western country. that was his choice. Kosovar Albanians did not choose to be born in Kosovo...did they?

Ari Gold...why do you live in America or THE WEST if you believe they are guarantors of theft? Why do you not move to say Russia or China (countries which, according to Serb contributers here, will soon be ruling the world). Why do you choose to live the West if you hate it?

All I can say is Serbia still has an awful lot of abortions for a country where 95% of the population believe in the sanctity of life, even unborn, and that premarital sex is wrong.
Not to mention intolerance and hatred towards those who are different, which goes directly against the teachings of Christ, although, unfortunately, seems to be a part of most organised religions.

AriGold,
How can i be albanian when i am 24x7 anti-albanian?

PS
Stop baptising as albanian anything you cannot understand.

I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off(Danilo, 6 October 2011 10:54)

LOL!!! I know for a fact that taxis have taxi meters that should be set either to tarif 1 or 2. If you get into a taxi and the meter is not switched on then who's the fool? My advice, next time you get a taxi, try not to mention how much you hate Serbians and the driver may not attempt to rip you off.

Frankly to be less religious is a blessing. I find most people who are of any faith and believe in it fervently, do so, not out of genuine belief in God, but because they afraid of Hell. Essentially they are trying to trick their way into Heaven!! There's faith and then there's hard core logic. Whilst without God there'd have been no civilizations to speak of (thats how they all started, a monument here, a tribute there), truth is, once we look at history, we find that most conflicts have come about due to beliefs in a Deity, especially in the last 2000 years or so. One does not need need to believe in God to have good morals. All you need is common sense.

pyrros

Whatever you have to say of the French and Germans, they are keeping your country from bankruptcy.

getting drunk and eating 2 kilos of dead pig on your slava doesn't make you religious.

"But we knew that didn't we? Who else would commit such crimes such as the ones in Srebrenica, if they hadn't been brainwashed by their religious leaders."

I don't see how your (incorrect) speculation about why Srebrenica happened adds anything of value to the discussion. I mean it's easy to have opinions about everything when you dream up theories to support them. I don't know what part of your post is more ignorant, dreaming something up to find a connection in order to blame religion, or the actuall "fact" that you made up...

Regarding Christianity and Islam !.

Christianity is founded on the Rising of Jesus the Christ from the Dead.

Islam in the Koran Explicitly denie His Resurection.


Christianity and Islam has nothing in common!.

So - bouth can not be right as they contradict Each Other.

Draw your own conclusions !.

Arn.Sweden.

"Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values.
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 11:31)

I would doubt that. They are more tolerant and less extremistic. Religious people might have more values, but often wrong ones, like the Muslim extremists who call themselves 'religious'. And be assured:
- Moral values/human behavior (like compassion and helping others) existed without religion
- religion often perverts values (like priest/imams consecrating tanks or calling for 'holy wars')

"Atheist societies are far less moral and are spineless in implementing any sorts of values."
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 11:31)

George W.Bush called himself religious, too, and believes he saw god and got a mission to accomplish. So much about values.

Serbs hate one another. Sad as it is, but it is so. There is too much jealousy and slander. People are far far far away from being real christians. Instead they are seljaks who speak behind peoples backs and even lie to their priests. Shame... but as we say, to su ta srpska posla. :( It's a shame that we can not be more smarter as an entire people. Look at the jews... so close and powerful, despite their small size. Meanwhile we want to kill one another. :(

"Your so called personal experiences are not a qualification for you to make such a ridiculous statement"

My personal experience are not a qualification for my to state my personal experiences?

wat?

Serbs could convert to Islam. Can get nice tax reduction.

To the Belowe Charachter - i Quote

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Comment -
Right.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Comment -
Right.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Comment -
You cant blame God for Evil.
Evil comes from Me and You,
according to our Undertanding and Free Will of action.

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Comment -
HE is bouth able and willing but Longsuffering.

IT DOES NOT EXIST....

Comment -
Yes it Does.

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

Comment -
Mere Speculation - You have never experienced bouth.

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. We have a hand full here posting.

Comment -
God is bouth All-knowing and ALL powefull and His created Human beings was not Created Faulty.
They where created with a Free Will as such, as God Himself, to obey or disobey God,
They could chose whatever they wanted.
God as All-Powefull/Omni-Potent does not meand He is an Totalitarian Dictator wielding Power in an Totalitarian way,
He created You with a Free Will to be Used Freely, but in the End he will hold You Acountable for what you have done with it,
as He is able by His Omnipotense,
and as according to Your own understanding as He is All-Knowing/Omniscient and sees to and into the Heart of Humans.

Keep your believes to yourself, cause we really don't care to hear and see it....

Comment -
This will never happen.

Religion = Organized Confusion - and I don't care what religion we're talking about.

Comment -
True Religion has no Confusion since the true God is All-Knowing/Omnisciant.

Yes, I did, I said it.
(Pls say it ain't so!!, 7 October 2011 08:04)

It is written -
" A fool only cares to put forwrd what is in his heart " !.

Arn.Sweden.

SCP the way I understood it is that Danilo made the claim that taxi drivers that have a cross dangling under their rear view mirror are more likely to cheat a customer.

You spoke of religious taxi drivers. I'd say that just because somebody has a cross in their taxi does not make them religious and that just because somebody doesn't have one, does not make them atheist.


I have taken numerous taxi journeys in Serbia and my experience is that those with crosses are no more or less trustworthy than the others.

As for the story its not accurate. Even those that really are religious won't know 95% of people that are also religious. For every 10 people, that is over 9 of them are religious.

The statistics are wrong.

I also think its interesting that these statistics appear just before the census is completed. A number of people have said that when government workers come to their homes, if one says he doesn't practice religion or wants to put atheist in the box, the box is left blank.
Others say that when they are uncertain what to put, they are advised by government workers, which is illegal.

What that blank box is counted as later on is disputible. However, whether it is counted as 'did not reply' or something else it will make Serbs look more religious than they really are.

The definition of whether a person is "religious" or not is purely subjective, and is different from person to person. In my opinion, that's the essence and core of religion and faith - it's about the personal bond between the person and the deity they choose to believe in, whether it be the Judeo-Christian God, Buddha, a Hindu God etc. From what I can see (living in a secular country, with an underlying Christian majority), the modern day church's primary activities aren't really in ensuring that all members of the parish are praying at certain times, in a certain manner, are fasting to the exact word of the Bible, aren't having sex etc. but are more in assisting local communities with certain problems, whether they be social, ethical, financial - whatever. I mean, not that they never did that previously, but it just seems that the modern-day church is far more of a social institution used to power the community, rather than a separate body which regulated the way in which a large proportion of the population lived.

As such, people's own opinions on faith are much more diverse than they used to be. Certain individuals are pretty liberal in their interpretation of religious texts, even though they continue to possess a faith and trust in a deity (like myself, for example), and you still have those who choose to follow the Bible, word-by-word, for moral guidance and support. Similarly, an individual's opinion on whether they're religious or not is also diverse. I'm a baptised Orthodox Christian - I abstain from all food on Good Friday, Christmas Eve, the 27th of September and the 18th of January, I wear a crucifix around my neck, and even have one of those ornate, wooden Orthodox crosses hanging around the rear-view mirror of my car (I don't rip my friends off when I'm driving them, though... Danilo). But having said that, I also drink alcohol, swear, curse, have sex even though I'm not married etc. but I'd still term myself as religious since, by and large, I still treat people with respect and dignity, am honest and reasonable, and still have faith in God.

Contrast me with an older, more conservative woman who reads the bible every day, fasts according to traditional Orthodox dietary customs, goes to church every Sunday, and prays bi-daily. We're both "religious", but in completely disparate ways. Hence, I doubt that 95% of Serbians go to church every Sunday or believe in God in the same way as one another. But, 'tis refreshing to see that, after such a long period of communism, faith and trust in religion still remains to such a high level, in contrast to places like Latvia and the Czech Republic, where you now have more full-blown Atheists than even secular Christians.

Nema krsta bez tri prsta!

(pyrros, 6 October 2011 16:24)

You said you are Greek. Stop it. You are not Greek, you are Albanian. Just like "Montenegrin" is not really "Montenegrin" but rather...Albanian. We aren't stupid..

On my next post Ill comment under "Volkswagen boy" so I can pretend to be German..you think people will believe me?

Just stop it.

Sa Verom U Boga!

@Arn.Sweden,

Well said. When people usually ask questions such as why does God allow evil, or why did He create faulty human beings (he did not), it is usually because they have not delved into the basic Christian theological explanations. The fact that we are allowed free will, to choose both good and evil, and to reap the rewards of both, is the most brilliant thing that God could do to teach us very important life lessons, and to develop character in us...character which will last for all eternity. No pain = no gain.

Going to Mt. Athos is a few weeks, can't wait, should be an once in a lifetime experience!

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

IT DOES NOT EXIST....

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. We have a hand full here posting.

Keep your believes to yourself, cause we really don't care to hear and see it....

Religion = Organized Confusion - and I don't care what religion we're talking about.

Yes, I did, I said it.

"I have noticed on thing, however. When taking a taxi, the larger the cross hanging from the rear-view mirror, the greater your chances are of either getting ripped off, or the driver stopping to fight with someone."

Wich is still better from public hanging of priests,nuns etc. What atheists did...Wel they no longer call them selves communists but try to hide in the westner river of atheism but we know who they (you) are...

If people want to belive they do,SPC never held any marathones for popularity,forced belivers to turn to orthodoxy or similar so I can honestly say that orthodoxy is the most socialy advanced religion. AND we do not have the education problem with atheists...Need I remind you of veronauka and gradjansko? In America,recently,atheist vs chatolics almost raged war since both sides wanted eather all kids to pray or to forbid prayers... Considering that here it's the other way around and that religious people are victims of atheism,thanks to communism, you shoud be grateful for the freedom you have. The only way to explain people such as you,that want to forbid religion of all shapes...... I already did,communist. Freedom for belief!

Kind of interesting from a Biblical perspective Serbia a Christian nation is being demonized,destroyed and attacked by Islam from the East and secular anti-Christ EU from West. World leaders in my view have sold out to the fallen Cherub.Serbia will never deny Christ even if the price we pay is destruction. Lazar promised to fight for the kingdom of Christ in heaven and lose Kosovo-Metohija in this wicked world.Satan took Kosovo and it will be regained if it is Christ's will.

You really have barely any knowledge on Orthodox Christianity.
(SCP UK, 6 October 2011 17:57)

LOL no he doesn't since he took an existing list of Top 10 Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian, and just added the word "Orthodox". Orthodox spend more time being angry at Catholics and Muslims than polytheists :)