Daily: Sucess in stopping new recognitions

I'm going to save this link for the next 4 weeks to prove just how bad at lying the serbian government is.

Its till summer vacation for many Government officials, why such a hurry? Dont know if B92 heard the latest news, but Thaci stated today no more Serbian officials visiting Kosovo, you have Dacic to thank for that.

"Daily Danas writes that Serbia’s diplomatic efforts to stop further recognitions of Kosovo’s independence have been successful thus far."

Oh jeeeeez, I thought that those "news" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ which has been issued 500 times a days were annoying. Looks like we have a replacement for that nonsense. Some people seriously believe that this summer is not going to end, right? If there is a necessity in Serbia to state this as a victory then it appears that the people over there are even more desperate than I thought. How can a delay of days/weeks because of holidays/summer pause be seen as a success? No answer expected...

Who is the one lying? What happened to '...we have confirmation of 100 recognitions...' when the separatists declared an illegal declaration. The numbers speak for themselves...only 69 countries were either bought off, threatened, or just plainly hate Serbia - see German and Holland.

Good Luck my fellow Albo's

Who came up with the summer vacation excuse? I haven't heard that from any government. Perhaps this is an explanation by the K-Albanian leadership? Apparently summer vacation didn't stop Russia, China, Spain, Slovakia, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, India, Morocco, and Brazil from saying they wouldn't recognize. We got most of those answers within a week of the ICJ decision.

How can a delay of days/weeks because of holidays/summer pause be seen as a success? No answer expected...
(JohnC., 18 August 2010 12:22)

But you fail to pass comment on the fact that the K Albs declared that immediately after the ICJ ruling there would be a flood of recognitions. So far I count the grand total of zero. Maybe this is indicative of the underlying feeling surrounding the whole Kosovo situation and as such probablt warrnts a comment rather than just making some empty attack on Serbia about her trying to look on the situation in a positive light?
An answer would be interesting....

JohnC.,
Yes it is summer and people are on vacation, at least in the Northern hemisphere. However, countries like Argentina and Brazil and all countries south of the equator work on a different clock. Take Argentina for instance; it's winter there, not summer. Also, for some countries, summer and winter are not that different except for rain. In tropical climates, do you think people cannot wait until summer comes? It only gets hotter and miserable there.
Now, let's look at what Thaci's behavior moments after the ICJ ruling. He, as you recall, was in Washington with Biden, along with some of Thaci's minions. One minion was reported in the Washington Times I believe checking his email awaiting the flood of recognitions to come in. Apparently he didn't get the message that it was still summer.
Let's face it, and I know you are a smart guy, Tadic and Jeremic have done a good job keeping other countries thinking about the benefits of recognizing Kosovo's UDI. They may be playing up the possibility of other separatist movements taking advantage of the ruling, or some other possibility, but whatever it may be it seems to be having a positive effect for now.

Where are the 35 recognitions? The "summer vacation" excuse is laughable - most of the countries that have not recognized lie in the southern hemisphere or in the equatorial region. Ask yourself why they don't recognize? Is Serbia so powerful that it can intimidate them? No. They don't recognize because they see that kosovo is a pseudo-state that is propped up by military occupation and the main sponsor of that occupation (usa) has soldiers stationed in foreign countries ALL OVER THE WORLD. Next month, the world will condemn the usa for refusing to negotiate with the Serbs.

RE;

He later said that there would be ten countries recognizing Kosovo’s independence in September and that one of them would be Pakistan.


Its rather shocking up until now that Pakistan has not recognized Kosovo given the close relationship with the US. Part of this is probably related to India's stance towards Kosovo as well as the Kashmir region.

Tadic and Jeremic have to be commended for immediately submitting a UN resolution which froze any potential recognitions while at the same time allowing the ICJ advisory position to be examined more carefully.

Reading the comments from the "Yes" countries to the independance declaration they preface the support with statement(s) such as "based on the evidence provided" etc.

Further, the ICJ was unduly influenced and as such, compromised its function as being a "neutral" legal body, but more of a political body.

Why are you Serbs so worried about Kosovo's recognition? You have been saying that even if we get all the other countries to recognize without Serbia's recognition the independence is void.Make up your minds.Does the recognition of Kosovo from other countries matters or not?

"Kosovo Foreign Minister Skender Hyseni had said that there would be 35 new recognitions during the summer."

They better hurry up with the recognitions. Summer is almost over. Or perhaps Hyseni was refering to summer down under which starts in september.
Albanian politicians are worse then the tabloid press in Hollywood. They make a lot of claims that are always false.

It is true results speak for it self Vuk and Tadic have stopped the recognitions so far.

And if there is no recognitions any longer say 1 or 2 years and their Resuluton passes then ok. However there is storm brewing that Minister of Defense will be new President of Serbia.

I blame Hyseni, he is useless. He has been two places in his life, Pristina and New York. Serbian diplomats go all over the world and there is a reason for that, because it is very effective. I think Hyseni should travel to countries and lobby in person for a change instead of running down the corridors of the UN HQ bugging country's representatives to the UN. He needs replacing. He is an embarrassment to the diplomatic world.

"...the lack of unity within the EU on the Kosovo question is not serving Serbia’s EU integration efforts, because Belgrade playing this card in its fight for Kosovo could lead to new blockades in its integration process, especially with its candidacy application expected to be discussed by the end of the year.

Serbia must forget Kosovo and EU alltogether if continues the same policy. We all know that Kosovo is lost for ever. There is no way that Serbia stand the slightest chance to re-establish its sovereignity and territorial integritiy over Kosovo. Well that is what Serbia is fighting for. That fight for lost Kosovo will result in another lost that of EU.

There is no question about it! It´s to admire Serbian diplomacy!

To my Kosovo Albanian compatriots... Keep building Mosques and further promote the dark cause of those who betray you! If you had abandoned Islam, you wouldn´t even have the need for their stinking recognitions. Only Latin America would have given you enough to pass the 100 mark.

I am slowly coming to believe that Kosovo Albanians and real Albanians from Albania are not the same thing!

adrian kola

2 more links for you to save and remember the lies fed to you...
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N29252445.htm
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=62013

Keep pushing as hard as you can my ethnic Albanian citizens. Try to get as many recognitions as you possibly can and prove to yourselves that independence is irreversibly blocked. The only positive step after that is negotiations.

"the world will condemn the usa for refusing to negotiate with the Serbs."
JohnBoy

The USA as a third party has nothing to negociate with serbia.

The USA as a third party has nothing to negociate with serbia.
(Joe, 18 August 2010 18:25)
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Not so. The US owns you. Serbia negotiates with the master not the slave.
What makes you think that you are independent?

I blame Hyseni, he is useless. He has been two places in his life, Pristina and New York. Serbian diplomats go all over the world and there is a reason for that, because it is very effective. I think Hyseni should travel to countries and lobby in person for a change instead of running down the corridors of the UN HQ bugging country's representatives to the UN. He needs replacing. He is an embarrassment to the diplomatic world.
(Ian, UK, 18 August 2010 17:18)
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So now you acknowledge that Jeremic is right to travel so much.
All I've read by Albanian posters here is how Jeremic is clocking up frequent flyer points and that's all. He is useless and he is the reason so many countries have recognised Kosovo.
Now I am reading from you that Hysterical should do the same.
Guys, do make up your mind which do you actually believe.

Why are you Serbs so worried about Kosovo's recognition? You have been saying that even if we get all the other countries to recognize without Serbia's recognition the independence is void.Make up your minds.Does the recognition of Kosovo from other countries matters or not?
(Mark, 18 August 2010 20:42)

It’s a simple answer. It’s because we can; that’s why! It’s also to p… off the US most of all.

Mark if you think everybody is happy in Kosovo you walk around with your eyes closed.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.

if i was to choose if i would be a American dog or e Serbian Citizen , i would choose the first , because i will know that... i would have DIGNITY.
if you only knew what i've been through.
(Astrit, 19 August 2010 12:31)
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I know exactly who has been through what. No need from a lecture from you.

Not so. The US owns you. Serbia negotiates with the master not the slave.
What makes you think that you are independent?
(Peggy, 19 August 2010 01:15)
Peggy , no one own's no one , Milosevic thought he did , but look what happend to him and his Country.American's are our Ally , they are our true Friend's. if i was to choose if i would be a American dog or e Serbian Citizen , i would choose the first , because i will know that... i would have DIGNITY.
if you only knew what i've been through.

@ Albert

Its should be obvious to all the Balkans by now that Albanians hitoricaly and generally have never been a peoples of faith since we had to strugle for the survial of our culture from our blakan neighbours.

Thats is why a motto came up
by Albanians religion is Albanianism, P.V.

Religion divides peoples, just like the the jugoslavs, catholic,orthodox,muslims peoples are divided.

Which is why we keep religion at the personal level and generally refuse to mix it with politics, unlike some who do then become fundamentalists extrimists.

When we talk about Albanian vs Serb its a clash of each respective Nationalities not religion, but some Serbs cant help mixing religion with it.

Serbs wanted to reverse the process of recognitions when sending this issue to the issue. Now, they celebrate that after 3 weeks their own step didn' t give it the final defeat. And we even did not have th UNGA yet.

Succes?This succes can only slow down the recognitions, not stop them.It's a question of time before dozens of countries recognize Kosovo as an independent an sovereign nation.Serbia will do the same given time.

So Islam was a glue that saved K-Albanians to save the way but also hurt us in 1913 where we got given up as sack of pattatos ( even tolstoy wrote about brutality we have endured)

SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.
(abi, 18 August 2010 21:53)

Dear Sir,

My comment was rather directed at excellent diplomacy that Serbian government has pursued in regards to freezing recognitions! They have actually succeeded in turning a temporary defeat into a huge victory when it comes to recognitions and one with all fairness can do nothing less, but admire it. As far as the Mosques, Churches are concerned! I doubt Islam has saved Kosovo people. In fact, it has left them as the most under developed territory and nation of Europe. Actually, Albanians should learn from Serbs who for more than 1000 years have never stopped, but fiercely fought and are fighting to preserve their Christian beginning be it in Kosovo or wherever Serbs may be. You Kosovo Albanians didn’t, you bowed quickly to Islam for fear and favours of the time, and now, you are screwed in the end for your betrayal of ideals of Scanderbeg (Skenderbeu).

Keep pushing as hard as you can my ethnic Albanian citizens. Try to get as many recognitions as you possibly can and prove to yourselves that independence is irreversibly blocked. The only positive step after that is negotiations.
(Zoran, 18 August 2010 23:58)

Well, it appears Albanians in Kosovo would choose "independence irreversibly blocked" vs. "negotiations about Kosovo in Serbia". If also Serbs are OK with the "independence irreversibly blocked", then it means everybody is OK to continue like this forever and we have actually solved the status issue with everybody being happy.

We had recognitions from very different countries and doesn't make any difference if another of these countries would (or not) recognize Kosovo.
The most important thing is that Serbia is out of the game, they cannot rule Kosovo, end of story!

Btw, Kosovo has an embassy in Saudi Arabia and Serbia doesn't ... big deal right?

There is no question about it! It´s to admire Serbian diplomacy!

To my Kosovo Albanian compatriots... Keep building Mosques and further promote the dark cause of those who betray you! If you had abandoned Islam, you wouldn´t even have the need for their stinking recognitions. Only Latin America would have given you enough to pass the 100 mark.

I am slowly coming to believe that Kosovo Albanians and real Albanians from Albania are not the same thing!
(Albert, 18 August 2010 19:44)

Albert in many ways we are different and normal we been separated for almost 100years.

As for building Mosques its nothing and recognitions it nothing to do with each other and maybe you are right if we were catholic maybe more countries would accept due to pressur from Vatican ( ie Croatia got when they broke up) But this is also what has saved us under Serbian Rule, only religion was they key that saved us from turning in to Serbs for long time we even had Serb names for the Father and Albanian for the son. As much as we dont like to admit here we do have a lot in common with Serbs and in some cases more than say Albaninan from South of Albania who was so far that we never got to meet in life time.

So Islam was a glue that saved K-Albanians to save the way but also hurt us in 1913 where we got given up as sack of pattatos ( even tolstoy wrote about brutality we have endured)

SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.

Dear Sir,

My comment was rather directed at excellent diplomacy that Serbian government has pursued in regards to freezing recognitions! They have actually succeeded in turning a temporary defeat into a huge victory when it comes to recognitions and one with all fairness can do nothing less, but admire it. As far as the Mosques, Churches are concerned! I doubt Islam has saved Kosovo people. In fact, it has left them as the most under developed territory and nation of Europe. Actually, Albanians should learn from Serbs who for more than 1000 years have never stopped, but fiercely fought and are fighting to preserve their Christian beginning be it in Kosovo or wherever Serbs may be. You Kosovo Albanians didn’t, you bowed quickly to Islam for fear and favours of the time, and now, you are screwed in the end for your betrayal of ideals of Scanderbeg (Skenderbeu).
(Albert, 19 August 2010 00:39)

As a christian (catholic) i have no issue with Muslim religion and have never been pushed back by it. We gave up so quickly that is History to judge since nither me or you were there so we do not know the circumstances.

You doubt assimilation but look what has happend to Cameri they have been indoctrinated and that part is gone forever.

It eassy to speak From home in Albania to the oppressin we have faced from Serbia it did not matter if you were Catholic or not we all got abused.

So now you acknowledge that Jeremic is right to travel so much.
All I've read by Albanian posters here is how Jeremic is clocking up frequent flyer points and that's all. He is useless and he is the reason so many countries have recognised Kosovo.
Now I am reading from you that Hysterical should do the same.
Guys, do make up your mind which do you actually believe.
(Peggy, 19 August 2010 01:19)

Peggy, I have never said that Jeremic is useless, he is a great Foreign Minister; he has been a constant thorn in Kosovo's side and that's why I envy him. Jeremic knows what he is doing and is very organised unlike Hyseni who should go back to do his old job and teach children English instead of wasting Kosovo's time; not only that he has wasted the best possible opportunity given to Kosovo to lobby for recognition and he has stayed in New York meeting with representatives who have no power and little influence, thus wasting this perfect opportunity.

Serbia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs had a plan ready for after the ICJ verdict, which was to send 55 diplomats to various countries arguing Serbia's case. Kosovo's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the other hand just sat there next to the phone/ fax machine with their figures crossed expected recognitions to roll in, even though they hadn't actively done anything to acquire any recognitions. Like I have said, there is a reason why Jeremic goes all over the world trying to gather support, Hyseni should do the same before he looses his job. If was up to me, I'd have sacked him long ago.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.
(bganon, 19 August 2010 11:32)

Ahh we finally found the happiness meter guy. Not only that be he gives so much authority to himself.
First of all we don't give a damn about how Serbia feels about the status. They want to feel unhappy that's their problem. Second what scientific method have you used when you determined that everybody... O wait, it the Serb ministry method.

Thats is why a motto came up
by Albanians religion is Albanianism, P.V.

(Skifteri, 19 August 2010 21:37)

That slogan actually is used more by Kosovars than Albanians. Anytime someone points out Islam in Kosovo, this slogan appears. However, you have thousands of Kosovar Internet warriors who not only depict Kosovo as a Muslim country, but Albania as well which is utterly false and it will be proven with next year’s census.

It’s a big hypocrisy pretending to love US, and at the same time follow a religious belief of US´es enemies.

That’s why Muslims or Christians could care less whether Kosovo is recognised and Serbian diplomacy appears to be putting a nail in the coffin.

'
SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.
(abi, 18 August 2010 21:53) '

And the one in Prishtina's going to be a cathedral! Hash is a true politician - the more infra-structure, the more impressive, the better. He'd probably go for a Mormon tabernacle if they promised it would be big enough.

Mark if you think everybody is happy in Kosovo you walk around with your eyes closed.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.
(bganon, 19 August 2010 11:32)

I was speaking about status only (on the rest I agree with you).

So about status it appears Serbs are OK with "independence irreversibly blocked". Kosovo appears to prefer that anyway instead of Kosovo in Serbia, so as far as status is concerned it appears everybody is happy for things to continue as they are.

"Daily Danas writes that Serbia’s diplomatic efforts to stop further recognitions of Kosovo’s independence have been successful thus far."

Oh jeeeeez, I thought that those "news" that Serbia is going to win the ICJ which has been issued 500 times a days were annoying. Looks like we have a replacement for that nonsense. Some people seriously believe that this summer is not going to end, right? If there is a necessity in Serbia to state this as a victory then it appears that the people over there are even more desperate than I thought. How can a delay of days/weeks because of holidays/summer pause be seen as a success? No answer expected...

Its till summer vacation for many Government officials, why such a hurry? Dont know if B92 heard the latest news, but Thaci stated today no more Serbian officials visiting Kosovo, you have Dacic to thank for that.

I'm going to save this link for the next 4 weeks to prove just how bad at lying the serbian government is.

How can a delay of days/weeks because of holidays/summer pause be seen as a success? No answer expected...
(JohnC., 18 August 2010 12:22)

But you fail to pass comment on the fact that the K Albs declared that immediately after the ICJ ruling there would be a flood of recognitions. So far I count the grand total of zero. Maybe this is indicative of the underlying feeling surrounding the whole Kosovo situation and as such probablt warrnts a comment rather than just making some empty attack on Serbia about her trying to look on the situation in a positive light?
An answer would be interesting....

JohnC.,
Yes it is summer and people are on vacation, at least in the Northern hemisphere. However, countries like Argentina and Brazil and all countries south of the equator work on a different clock. Take Argentina for instance; it's winter there, not summer. Also, for some countries, summer and winter are not that different except for rain. In tropical climates, do you think people cannot wait until summer comes? It only gets hotter and miserable there.
Now, let's look at what Thaci's behavior moments after the ICJ ruling. He, as you recall, was in Washington with Biden, along with some of Thaci's minions. One minion was reported in the Washington Times I believe checking his email awaiting the flood of recognitions to come in. Apparently he didn't get the message that it was still summer.
Let's face it, and I know you are a smart guy, Tadic and Jeremic have done a good job keeping other countries thinking about the benefits of recognizing Kosovo's UDI. They may be playing up the possibility of other separatist movements taking advantage of the ruling, or some other possibility, but whatever it may be it seems to be having a positive effect for now.

Who is the one lying? What happened to '...we have confirmation of 100 recognitions...' when the separatists declared an illegal declaration. The numbers speak for themselves...only 69 countries were either bought off, threatened, or just plainly hate Serbia - see German and Holland.

Good Luck my fellow Albo's

Where are the 35 recognitions? The "summer vacation" excuse is laughable - most of the countries that have not recognized lie in the southern hemisphere or in the equatorial region. Ask yourself why they don't recognize? Is Serbia so powerful that it can intimidate them? No. They don't recognize because they see that kosovo is a pseudo-state that is propped up by military occupation and the main sponsor of that occupation (usa) has soldiers stationed in foreign countries ALL OVER THE WORLD. Next month, the world will condemn the usa for refusing to negotiate with the Serbs.

"...the lack of unity within the EU on the Kosovo question is not serving Serbia’s EU integration efforts, because Belgrade playing this card in its fight for Kosovo could lead to new blockades in its integration process, especially with its candidacy application expected to be discussed by the end of the year.

Serbia must forget Kosovo and EU alltogether if continues the same policy. We all know that Kosovo is lost for ever. There is no way that Serbia stand the slightest chance to re-establish its sovereignity and territorial integritiy over Kosovo. Well that is what Serbia is fighting for. That fight for lost Kosovo will result in another lost that of EU.

Why are you Serbs so worried about Kosovo's recognition? You have been saying that even if we get all the other countries to recognize without Serbia's recognition the independence is void.Make up your minds.Does the recognition of Kosovo from other countries matters or not?

Who came up with the summer vacation excuse? I haven't heard that from any government. Perhaps this is an explanation by the K-Albanian leadership? Apparently summer vacation didn't stop Russia, China, Spain, Slovakia, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, India, Morocco, and Brazil from saying they wouldn't recognize. We got most of those answers within a week of the ICJ decision.

"the world will condemn the usa for refusing to negotiate with the Serbs."
JohnBoy

The USA as a third party has nothing to negociate with serbia.

There is no question about it! It´s to admire Serbian diplomacy!

To my Kosovo Albanian compatriots... Keep building Mosques and further promote the dark cause of those who betray you! If you had abandoned Islam, you wouldn´t even have the need for their stinking recognitions. Only Latin America would have given you enough to pass the 100 mark.

I am slowly coming to believe that Kosovo Albanians and real Albanians from Albania are not the same thing!

RE;

He later said that there would be ten countries recognizing Kosovo’s independence in September and that one of them would be Pakistan.


Its rather shocking up until now that Pakistan has not recognized Kosovo given the close relationship with the US. Part of this is probably related to India's stance towards Kosovo as well as the Kashmir region.

Tadic and Jeremic have to be commended for immediately submitting a UN resolution which froze any potential recognitions while at the same time allowing the ICJ advisory position to be examined more carefully.

Reading the comments from the "Yes" countries to the independance declaration they preface the support with statement(s) such as "based on the evidence provided" etc.

Further, the ICJ was unduly influenced and as such, compromised its function as being a "neutral" legal body, but more of a political body.

Serbs wanted to reverse the process of recognitions when sending this issue to the issue. Now, they celebrate that after 3 weeks their own step didn' t give it the final defeat. And we even did not have th UNGA yet.

Not so. The US owns you. Serbia negotiates with the master not the slave.
What makes you think that you are independent?
(Peggy, 19 August 2010 01:15)
Peggy , no one own's no one , Milosevic thought he did , but look what happend to him and his Country.American's are our Ally , they are our true Friend's. if i was to choose if i would be a American dog or e Serbian Citizen , i would choose the first , because i will know that... i would have DIGNITY.
if you only knew what i've been through.

I blame Hyseni, he is useless. He has been two places in his life, Pristina and New York. Serbian diplomats go all over the world and there is a reason for that, because it is very effective. I think Hyseni should travel to countries and lobby in person for a change instead of running down the corridors of the UN HQ bugging country's representatives to the UN. He needs replacing. He is an embarrassment to the diplomatic world.

adrian kola

2 more links for you to save and remember the lies fed to you...
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N29252445.htm
http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=62013

There is no question about it! It´s to admire Serbian diplomacy!

To my Kosovo Albanian compatriots... Keep building Mosques and further promote the dark cause of those who betray you! If you had abandoned Islam, you wouldn´t even have the need for their stinking recognitions. Only Latin America would have given you enough to pass the 100 mark.

I am slowly coming to believe that Kosovo Albanians and real Albanians from Albania are not the same thing!
(Albert, 18 August 2010 19:44)

Albert in many ways we are different and normal we been separated for almost 100years.

As for building Mosques its nothing and recognitions it nothing to do with each other and maybe you are right if we were catholic maybe more countries would accept due to pressur from Vatican ( ie Croatia got when they broke up) But this is also what has saved us under Serbian Rule, only religion was they key that saved us from turning in to Serbs for long time we even had Serb names for the Father and Albanian for the son. As much as we dont like to admit here we do have a lot in common with Serbs and in some cases more than say Albaninan from South of Albania who was so far that we never got to meet in life time.

So Islam was a glue that saved K-Albanians to save the way but also hurt us in 1913 where we got given up as sack of pattatos ( even tolstoy wrote about brutality we have endured)

SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.

Succes?This succes can only slow down the recognitions, not stop them.It's a question of time before dozens of countries recognize Kosovo as an independent an sovereign nation.Serbia will do the same given time.

"Kosovo Foreign Minister Skender Hyseni had said that there would be 35 new recognitions during the summer."

They better hurry up with the recognitions. Summer is almost over. Or perhaps Hyseni was refering to summer down under which starts in september.
Albanian politicians are worse then the tabloid press in Hollywood. They make a lot of claims that are always false.

Dear Sir,

My comment was rather directed at excellent diplomacy that Serbian government has pursued in regards to freezing recognitions! They have actually succeeded in turning a temporary defeat into a huge victory when it comes to recognitions and one with all fairness can do nothing less, but admire it. As far as the Mosques, Churches are concerned! I doubt Islam has saved Kosovo people. In fact, it has left them as the most under developed territory and nation of Europe. Actually, Albanians should learn from Serbs who for more than 1000 years have never stopped, but fiercely fought and are fighting to preserve their Christian beginning be it in Kosovo or wherever Serbs may be. You Kosovo Albanians didn’t, you bowed quickly to Islam for fear and favours of the time, and now, you are screwed in the end for your betrayal of ideals of Scanderbeg (Skenderbeu).
(Albert, 19 August 2010 00:39)

As a christian (catholic) i have no issue with Muslim religion and have never been pushed back by it. We gave up so quickly that is History to judge since nither me or you were there so we do not know the circumstances.

You doubt assimilation but look what has happend to Cameri they have been indoctrinated and that part is gone forever.

It eassy to speak From home in Albania to the oppressin we have faced from Serbia it did not matter if you were Catholic or not we all got abused.

if i was to choose if i would be a American dog or e Serbian Citizen , i would choose the first , because i will know that... i would have DIGNITY.
if you only knew what i've been through.
(Astrit, 19 August 2010 12:31)
====================

I know exactly who has been through what. No need from a lecture from you.

I blame Hyseni, he is useless. He has been two places in his life, Pristina and New York. Serbian diplomats go all over the world and there is a reason for that, because it is very effective. I think Hyseni should travel to countries and lobby in person for a change instead of running down the corridors of the UN HQ bugging country's representatives to the UN. He needs replacing. He is an embarrassment to the diplomatic world.
(Ian, UK, 18 August 2010 17:18)
======================

So now you acknowledge that Jeremic is right to travel so much.
All I've read by Albanian posters here is how Jeremic is clocking up frequent flyer points and that's all. He is useless and he is the reason so many countries have recognised Kosovo.
Now I am reading from you that Hysterical should do the same.
Guys, do make up your mind which do you actually believe.

Keep pushing as hard as you can my ethnic Albanian citizens. Try to get as many recognitions as you possibly can and prove to yourselves that independence is irreversibly blocked. The only positive step after that is negotiations.
(Zoran, 18 August 2010 23:58)

Well, it appears Albanians in Kosovo would choose "independence irreversibly blocked" vs. "negotiations about Kosovo in Serbia". If also Serbs are OK with the "independence irreversibly blocked", then it means everybody is OK to continue like this forever and we have actually solved the status issue with everybody being happy.

It is true results speak for it self Vuk and Tadic have stopped the recognitions so far.

And if there is no recognitions any longer say 1 or 2 years and their Resuluton passes then ok. However there is storm brewing that Minister of Defense will be new President of Serbia.

The USA as a third party has nothing to negociate with serbia.
(Joe, 18 August 2010 18:25)
====================

Not so. The US owns you. Serbia negotiates with the master not the slave.
What makes you think that you are independent?

So Islam was a glue that saved K-Albanians to save the way but also hurt us in 1913 where we got given up as sack of pattatos ( even tolstoy wrote about brutality we have endured)

SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.
(abi, 18 August 2010 21:53)

Dear Sir,

My comment was rather directed at excellent diplomacy that Serbian government has pursued in regards to freezing recognitions! They have actually succeeded in turning a temporary defeat into a huge victory when it comes to recognitions and one with all fairness can do nothing less, but admire it. As far as the Mosques, Churches are concerned! I doubt Islam has saved Kosovo people. In fact, it has left them as the most under developed territory and nation of Europe. Actually, Albanians should learn from Serbs who for more than 1000 years have never stopped, but fiercely fought and are fighting to preserve their Christian beginning be it in Kosovo or wherever Serbs may be. You Kosovo Albanians didn’t, you bowed quickly to Islam for fear and favours of the time, and now, you are screwed in the end for your betrayal of ideals of Scanderbeg (Skenderbeu).

Keep pushing as hard as you can my ethnic Albanian citizens. Try to get as many recognitions as you possibly can and prove to yourselves that independence is irreversibly blocked. The only positive step after that is negotiations.

So now you acknowledge that Jeremic is right to travel so much.
All I've read by Albanian posters here is how Jeremic is clocking up frequent flyer points and that's all. He is useless and he is the reason so many countries have recognised Kosovo.
Now I am reading from you that Hysterical should do the same.
Guys, do make up your mind which do you actually believe.
(Peggy, 19 August 2010 01:19)

Peggy, I have never said that Jeremic is useless, he is a great Foreign Minister; he has been a constant thorn in Kosovo's side and that's why I envy him. Jeremic knows what he is doing and is very organised unlike Hyseni who should go back to do his old job and teach children English instead of wasting Kosovo's time; not only that he has wasted the best possible opportunity given to Kosovo to lobby for recognition and he has stayed in New York meeting with representatives who have no power and little influence, thus wasting this perfect opportunity.

Serbia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs had a plan ready for after the ICJ verdict, which was to send 55 diplomats to various countries arguing Serbia's case. Kosovo's Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the other hand just sat there next to the phone/ fax machine with their figures crossed expected recognitions to roll in, even though they hadn't actively done anything to acquire any recognitions. Like I have said, there is a reason why Jeremic goes all over the world trying to gather support, Hyseni should do the same before he looses his job. If was up to me, I'd have sacked him long ago.

Thats is why a motto came up
by Albanians religion is Albanianism, P.V.

(Skifteri, 19 August 2010 21:37)

That slogan actually is used more by Kosovars than Albanians. Anytime someone points out Islam in Kosovo, this slogan appears. However, you have thousands of Kosovar Internet warriors who not only depict Kosovo as a Muslim country, but Albania as well which is utterly false and it will be proven with next year’s census.

It’s a big hypocrisy pretending to love US, and at the same time follow a religious belief of US´es enemies.

That’s why Muslims or Christians could care less whether Kosovo is recognised and Serbian diplomacy appears to be putting a nail in the coffin.

Why are you Serbs so worried about Kosovo's recognition? You have been saying that even if we get all the other countries to recognize without Serbia's recognition the independence is void.Make up your minds.Does the recognition of Kosovo from other countries matters or not?
(Mark, 18 August 2010 20:42)

It’s a simple answer. It’s because we can; that’s why! It’s also to p… off the US most of all.

Mark if you think everybody is happy in Kosovo you walk around with your eyes closed.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.
(bganon, 19 August 2010 11:32)

Ahh we finally found the happiness meter guy. Not only that be he gives so much authority to himself.
First of all we don't give a damn about how Serbia feels about the status. They want to feel unhappy that's their problem. Second what scientific method have you used when you determined that everybody... O wait, it the Serb ministry method.

We had recognitions from very different countries and doesn't make any difference if another of these countries would (or not) recognize Kosovo.
The most important thing is that Serbia is out of the game, they cannot rule Kosovo, end of story!

Btw, Kosovo has an embassy in Saudi Arabia and Serbia doesn't ... big deal right?

@ Albert

Its should be obvious to all the Balkans by now that Albanians hitoricaly and generally have never been a peoples of faith since we had to strugle for the survial of our culture from our blakan neighbours.

Thats is why a motto came up
by Albanians religion is Albanianism, P.V.

Religion divides peoples, just like the the jugoslavs, catholic,orthodox,muslims peoples are divided.

Which is why we keep religion at the personal level and generally refuse to mix it with politics, unlike some who do then become fundamentalists extrimists.

When we talk about Albanian vs Serb its a clash of each respective Nationalities not religion, but some Serbs cant help mixing religion with it.

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SO wish you the best but we do build churches as well as we have 1 new in Djakovica, New one in Center of Prishtina , new one being build in Prizren but this are catholic not Orthodox.
(abi, 18 August 2010 21:53) '

And the one in Prishtina's going to be a cathedral! Hash is a true politician - the more infra-structure, the more impressive, the better. He'd probably go for a Mormon tabernacle if they promised it would be big enough.

Mark if you think everybody is happy in Kosovo you walk around with your eyes closed.

Nobody is happy either in Kosovo or Serbia proper concerning status, living standards and development.
(bganon, 19 August 2010 11:32)

I was speaking about status only (on the rest I agree with you).

So about status it appears Serbs are OK with "independence irreversibly blocked". Kosovo appears to prefer that anyway instead of Kosovo in Serbia, so as far as status is concerned it appears everybody is happy for things to continue as they are.