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Tuesday, 06.07.2010.

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K. Albanians "won’t give up on integration of north"

Kosovo Albanian Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi says the government in Priština was "determined to continue the implementation of their plan for the north".

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Mike

pre 14 godina

"Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer." (pss)

-- It's only ironic if both sides continue to remain intractable and criticize the other side while failing to realize they base their rationales on similarly (il)logical precepts. Still, the international community was able to conjure up some answer to your question (so I'm told) but can't come up with an answer for mine. Both questions sound pretty similar. One would think the solution would be that more apparent. But one would also think Hillary's "end the occupation of Georgia" speech today would have led her to at least come up with a caveat for Kosovo.

And speaking of (il)logical precepts:

“We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.” (miri)

-- C’mon miri, you’re better than this. I’m afraid it’s going to take more than Albanian “vitality” and a defiant yet confusing polemic on a Serbian news site in achieving a set of goals you’ve yet to explain the rationale behind.

“You just wait and see.”

-- I’ve been waiting for over two years and the only thing I’ve seen are half-hearted attempts by political actors in Pristina and empty statements like yours from the Albanian blogosphere. Since you obsess over northern Kosovo the way a Serbian nationalist obsesses over most of the rest of Kosovo, perhaps you can explain to me why it deserves to be under Pristina’s control? Why should a region populated by 95% Serbs submit to Pristina if you believe a region populated by 90% Albanians should not submit to Belgrade? Given the plethora of problems that Pristina needs to address in its immediate vicinity, do you really think an Albanian in Kosovo really cares about the north? In all your posts you’ve never actually explained the reasoning of yours. You seem to want it because you think it should be yours. It’s really funny: you all claim time and again you can’t stand Serbs, you want nothing to do with Serbs, Serbs are the most uncooperative people in the Balkans and you’re so glad you don’t have to live under Serbia again, yet you’ll collectively blow off your left foot just to control 3 municipalities dominated by Serbs who are more than happy to oblige your desire for socio-political separation. Like I said, Pristina scoffs at Belgrade pipe dreams yet concocts equally untenable pipe dreams of their own. You laugh at Jeremić, yet you tell me to “just wait and see”. You ridicule Serb calls for defending Mitrovica while making noise about Presevo. You’re no better than the Serbian nationalists you deride for grasping at something they either lost a long time ago or have no legitimacy in (re)claiming. And though I rarely if ever base my arguments on this, at the end of the day at least Serbs can play the “Holy Land” card over Kosovo. What symbolic value does the north, Gracanica, or Strpce hold for an Albanian?

”Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.”

-- Considering this seems to come from someone with no rhyme or reason to their views other than emotionally-driven nationalism and an unhealthy fixation on a piece of Serb-inhabited territory they most likely have never been to, would never go to, and wouldn’t know what to do with, it is not surprising the criteria in establishing what is “useless” by you is different from mine. I’m more than happy in logically discussing things with you, but you need to start bringing some logical ideas of your own to the table. Considering the number of possible scenarios I’ve repeatedly offered here, I really don’t know what your beef is. Do you realize how much of an angry but impotent Serbian nationalist you sounded like in your last post?

pss

pre 14 godina

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:50)
Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?"

Mike

A whole lot! Corruption, unemployment, insecurity, poverty, oppression, human trafficing and organ harvesting.

PRN

pre 14 godina

"K. Albanians "won’t give up on integration of north""

Naturally NOT. The strategy is just at the very beginning and is ought to be completed by the end of the year.

K. Albanians won’t give up neither on integration of Presevo velley and Nis. The latter strategy is about to start to be designed.

miri

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:33)

We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.

You just wait and see.
Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica." (Janez-Beograd)

-- Exactly. Is Belgrade trying to open an office or even set up a trafika in southern Mitrovica? In Pristina? In Djakovica? No. Belgrade is only focusing on the areas of Kosovo that it has authority in and that its people accept. Pristina is continuing its dangerous and foolish game of expansionism while hoping the international forces in the region will back them up.

Again, I keep asking and no one seems to be able to answer:

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?

Mike

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.

highduke

pre 14 godina

If we learned anything from the last 11 years, its that pogroms, bottle-throwing, beatings and games over hydro, electricity, telephone are part of Albanians' failed attemtpts to assert control they have no right to excercise.

kate

pre 14 godina

Hang on, wasn't Peter Feith told that the UN did not support the ICO's cunning 'plan'? Therefore, there is no legitimacy to it whatsoever and hopefully the UN will endorse this fact today.

As for the spoutings about the murder of the poor doctor and the shooting of the Serbian MP having been carried out by Serbia, that is absolutely ridiculous. If you're going to try and pass blame, at least make it credible.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

"PRIŠTINA -- Kosovo Albanian Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi says the government in Priština was "determined to continue the implementation of their plan for the north".

He stated that this was the case despite the rise of tensions in the predominantly Serb-areas.

The so-called plan for integration, presented early this year by the Kosovo Albanian government and the International Civilian Office (ICO), aims to bring the Serb areas of the province under Priština's control, and has been rejected by Serbs living there and official Belgrade."

Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica.

One thing for sure is that Hash and his crooks wont be winning the Nobel Peace Prize any time soon.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

"PRIŠTINA -- Kosovo Albanian Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi says the government in Priština was "determined to continue the implementation of their plan for the north".

He stated that this was the case despite the rise of tensions in the predominantly Serb-areas.

The so-called plan for integration, presented early this year by the Kosovo Albanian government and the International Civilian Office (ICO), aims to bring the Serb areas of the province under Priština's control, and has been rejected by Serbs living there and official Belgrade."

Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica.

One thing for sure is that Hash and his crooks wont be winning the Nobel Peace Prize any time soon.

kate

pre 14 godina

Hang on, wasn't Peter Feith told that the UN did not support the ICO's cunning 'plan'? Therefore, there is no legitimacy to it whatsoever and hopefully the UN will endorse this fact today.

As for the spoutings about the murder of the poor doctor and the shooting of the Serbian MP having been carried out by Serbia, that is absolutely ridiculous. If you're going to try and pass blame, at least make it credible.

highduke

pre 14 godina

If we learned anything from the last 11 years, its that pogroms, bottle-throwing, beatings and games over hydro, electricity, telephone are part of Albanians' failed attemtpts to assert control they have no right to excercise.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica." (Janez-Beograd)

-- Exactly. Is Belgrade trying to open an office or even set up a trafika in southern Mitrovica? In Pristina? In Djakovica? No. Belgrade is only focusing on the areas of Kosovo that it has authority in and that its people accept. Pristina is continuing its dangerous and foolish game of expansionism while hoping the international forces in the region will back them up.

Again, I keep asking and no one seems to be able to answer:

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?"

Mike

A whole lot! Corruption, unemployment, insecurity, poverty, oppression, human trafficing and organ harvesting.

Mike

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.

miri

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:33)

We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.

You just wait and see.
Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.

PRN

pre 14 godina

"K. Albanians "won’t give up on integration of north""

Naturally NOT. The strategy is just at the very beginning and is ought to be completed by the end of the year.

K. Albanians won’t give up neither on integration of Presevo velley and Nis. The latter strategy is about to start to be designed.

pss

pre 14 godina

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:50)
Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer." (pss)

-- It's only ironic if both sides continue to remain intractable and criticize the other side while failing to realize they base their rationales on similarly (il)logical precepts. Still, the international community was able to conjure up some answer to your question (so I'm told) but can't come up with an answer for mine. Both questions sound pretty similar. One would think the solution would be that more apparent. But one would also think Hillary's "end the occupation of Georgia" speech today would have led her to at least come up with a caveat for Kosovo.

And speaking of (il)logical precepts:

“We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.” (miri)

-- C’mon miri, you’re better than this. I’m afraid it’s going to take more than Albanian “vitality” and a defiant yet confusing polemic on a Serbian news site in achieving a set of goals you’ve yet to explain the rationale behind.

“You just wait and see.”

-- I’ve been waiting for over two years and the only thing I’ve seen are half-hearted attempts by political actors in Pristina and empty statements like yours from the Albanian blogosphere. Since you obsess over northern Kosovo the way a Serbian nationalist obsesses over most of the rest of Kosovo, perhaps you can explain to me why it deserves to be under Pristina’s control? Why should a region populated by 95% Serbs submit to Pristina if you believe a region populated by 90% Albanians should not submit to Belgrade? Given the plethora of problems that Pristina needs to address in its immediate vicinity, do you really think an Albanian in Kosovo really cares about the north? In all your posts you’ve never actually explained the reasoning of yours. You seem to want it because you think it should be yours. It’s really funny: you all claim time and again you can’t stand Serbs, you want nothing to do with Serbs, Serbs are the most uncooperative people in the Balkans and you’re so glad you don’t have to live under Serbia again, yet you’ll collectively blow off your left foot just to control 3 municipalities dominated by Serbs who are more than happy to oblige your desire for socio-political separation. Like I said, Pristina scoffs at Belgrade pipe dreams yet concocts equally untenable pipe dreams of their own. You laugh at Jeremić, yet you tell me to “just wait and see”. You ridicule Serb calls for defending Mitrovica while making noise about Presevo. You’re no better than the Serbian nationalists you deride for grasping at something they either lost a long time ago or have no legitimacy in (re)claiming. And though I rarely if ever base my arguments on this, at the end of the day at least Serbs can play the “Holy Land” card over Kosovo. What symbolic value does the north, Gracanica, or Strpce hold for an Albanian?

”Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.”

-- Considering this seems to come from someone with no rhyme or reason to their views other than emotionally-driven nationalism and an unhealthy fixation on a piece of Serb-inhabited territory they most likely have never been to, would never go to, and wouldn’t know what to do with, it is not surprising the criteria in establishing what is “useless” by you is different from mine. I’m more than happy in logically discussing things with you, but you need to start bringing some logical ideas of your own to the table. Considering the number of possible scenarios I’ve repeatedly offered here, I really don’t know what your beef is. Do you realize how much of an angry but impotent Serbian nationalist you sounded like in your last post?

kate

pre 14 godina

Hang on, wasn't Peter Feith told that the UN did not support the ICO's cunning 'plan'? Therefore, there is no legitimacy to it whatsoever and hopefully the UN will endorse this fact today.

As for the spoutings about the murder of the poor doctor and the shooting of the Serbian MP having been carried out by Serbia, that is absolutely ridiculous. If you're going to try and pass blame, at least make it credible.

PRN

pre 14 godina

"K. Albanians "won’t give up on integration of north""

Naturally NOT. The strategy is just at the very beginning and is ought to be completed by the end of the year.

K. Albanians won’t give up neither on integration of Presevo velley and Nis. The latter strategy is about to start to be designed.

miri

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:33)

We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.

You just wait and see.
Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.

highduke

pre 14 godina

If we learned anything from the last 11 years, its that pogroms, bottle-throwing, beatings and games over hydro, electricity, telephone are part of Albanians' failed attemtpts to assert control they have no right to excercise.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

"PRIŠTINA -- Kosovo Albanian Interior Minister Bajram Rexhepi says the government in Priština was "determined to continue the implementation of their plan for the north".

He stated that this was the case despite the rise of tensions in the predominantly Serb-areas.

The so-called plan for integration, presented early this year by the Kosovo Albanian government and the International Civilian Office (ICO), aims to bring the Serb areas of the province under Priština's control, and has been rejected by Serbs living there and official Belgrade."

Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica.

One thing for sure is that Hash and his crooks wont be winning the Nobel Peace Prize any time soon.

Mike

pre 14 godina

So neither Belgrade nor Pristina are going to "give up" laying claim to areas where the respective population doesn't want them.

And some Albanians here think it's only Serbs having ridiculous pipe dreams.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Looks like Pristina is determined to provoke confrontation with the Serbs. Who is the trouble maker here? Its not Belgrade. Why dont these idiots get the message.. they are simply not wanted in Mitrovica." (Janez-Beograd)

-- Exactly. Is Belgrade trying to open an office or even set up a trafika in southern Mitrovica? In Pristina? In Djakovica? No. Belgrade is only focusing on the areas of Kosovo that it has authority in and that its people accept. Pristina is continuing its dangerous and foolish game of expansionism while hoping the international forces in the region will back them up.

Again, I keep asking and no one seems to be able to answer:

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

"What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?"

Mike

A whole lot! Corruption, unemployment, insecurity, poverty, oppression, human trafficing and organ harvesting.

pss

pre 14 godina

* What can Pristina offer the K-Serbs that they aren't getting from Begrade already?
(Mike, 6 July 2010 16:50)
Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"Ironic how the situation has progressed, 8 months ago the question was "What can Serbia offer Kosovo that they do not already have"?
And no one could give an answer." (pss)

-- It's only ironic if both sides continue to remain intractable and criticize the other side while failing to realize they base their rationales on similarly (il)logical precepts. Still, the international community was able to conjure up some answer to your question (so I'm told) but can't come up with an answer for mine. Both questions sound pretty similar. One would think the solution would be that more apparent. But one would also think Hillary's "end the occupation of Georgia" speech today would have led her to at least come up with a caveat for Kosovo.

And speaking of (il)logical precepts:

“We have come a long way. Your corrupt mentality of looking down to everything Albanian is no match for our vitality.” (miri)

-- C’mon miri, you’re better than this. I’m afraid it’s going to take more than Albanian “vitality” and a defiant yet confusing polemic on a Serbian news site in achieving a set of goals you’ve yet to explain the rationale behind.

“You just wait and see.”

-- I’ve been waiting for over two years and the only thing I’ve seen are half-hearted attempts by political actors in Pristina and empty statements like yours from the Albanian blogosphere. Since you obsess over northern Kosovo the way a Serbian nationalist obsesses over most of the rest of Kosovo, perhaps you can explain to me why it deserves to be under Pristina’s control? Why should a region populated by 95% Serbs submit to Pristina if you believe a region populated by 90% Albanians should not submit to Belgrade? Given the plethora of problems that Pristina needs to address in its immediate vicinity, do you really think an Albanian in Kosovo really cares about the north? In all your posts you’ve never actually explained the reasoning of yours. You seem to want it because you think it should be yours. It’s really funny: you all claim time and again you can’t stand Serbs, you want nothing to do with Serbs, Serbs are the most uncooperative people in the Balkans and you’re so glad you don’t have to live under Serbia again, yet you’ll collectively blow off your left foot just to control 3 municipalities dominated by Serbs who are more than happy to oblige your desire for socio-political separation. Like I said, Pristina scoffs at Belgrade pipe dreams yet concocts equally untenable pipe dreams of their own. You laugh at Jeremić, yet you tell me to “just wait and see”. You ridicule Serb calls for defending Mitrovica while making noise about Presevo. You’re no better than the Serbian nationalists you deride for grasping at something they either lost a long time ago or have no legitimacy in (re)claiming. And though I rarely if ever base my arguments on this, at the end of the day at least Serbs can play the “Holy Land” card over Kosovo. What symbolic value does the north, Gracanica, or Strpce hold for an Albanian?

”Unfortunately discussing logically with the likes of you has been proven completely useless.”

-- Considering this seems to come from someone with no rhyme or reason to their views other than emotionally-driven nationalism and an unhealthy fixation on a piece of Serb-inhabited territory they most likely have never been to, would never go to, and wouldn’t know what to do with, it is not surprising the criteria in establishing what is “useless” by you is different from mine. I’m more than happy in logically discussing things with you, but you need to start bringing some logical ideas of your own to the table. Considering the number of possible scenarios I’ve repeatedly offered here, I really don’t know what your beef is. Do you realize how much of an angry but impotent Serbian nationalist you sounded like in your last post?