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Tuesday, 06.07.2010.

09:28

Tadić hints at "reassessing relations"

Serbian President Boris Tadić today addressed the extraordinary session of the UN Security Council in New York, called after the latest incidents in Kosovo.

Izvor: Tanjug

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pss

pre 14 godina

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)
Maybe you should have gone to the UNSC website and viewed the webcast before writing.
Here is the link:
http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/

Not only does it have a recording of the interview of Hyseni after the session it also includes the session itself which has all the speakers including FM Hyseni.

Pan

pre 14 godina

Last incidents were created by serbs themselves... it don't take a rocket scientist to know that.
It's time that kosovo reacts more aggressive against these serb thugs.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?
(Ron, 7 July 2010 14:29)


You should file a law suite against Ban ki-Moon,

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)

Now this is very funny coment.
Must have been Hyseni's twin brother in the same round table at UNSC.
I watched the whole UNSC session live , and Colin is talking about Google.

Ron

pre 14 godina

So maybe Kosovo 'independence' wasn't such a great idea at all!

The world must be aware that 'Kosovo' opened Pandora's Box.

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - it is all very well preaching the need for Serb-Albanian peace and love, but what is truly insulting is that this has to flow one way and not the other. There was never any desire for KAs to work within the confines of the Serbian state, and so it is a bit rich now to ask Kosovo Serbs, especially those living in the north, to play nice with Pristina.

I am sorry if you felt offended by my comments, but I am really fed up with the number of times I hear KAs calling for the north to be integrated - by force, if needs be - and yet never seem to be able to consider that their arguments smack of the very worst kind of hypocrisy. It really is astounding. You may have dressed your comments up in more moderate terms, but the lack of self-awareness is just as acute in your case as in all the other examples that we have on these forums.

If moderate KAs - yourself included - had any decency at all they would be front and centre of the debate preaching the right of the northern Sebs to go their own way, just as Serbia should allow the KAs to have their 'freedom' from Belgrade. Self-determination is surely a right shared by all. If I heard more of this, then I would be willing to take a more charitable view of your comments.

So, will you say that openly?

ximi

pre 14 godina

“Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?”
(Jim, 6 July 2010 21:03)

Dear Jim,
First of all I just shared my opinion for which you are entitled to disagree but there is no need for the insulting language. For this reason I see no point of replying to the points you raised.


“ximi
Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...
(Mikael C, 6 July 2010 19:02)”

Michael C,
All I am saying is that Serbs in other parts of Kosovo have managed to integrate reasonably well. Don’t misunderstand me I am not saying that things are perfect for Serbs in Kosovo, there is lots of work to be done but surely if we keep working together better days will come for all.



“Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.
(Boban, 6 July 2010 18:47)”

Boban,
I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. Can I just ask what Balgrade did for you in the last 10 years?

UK

pre 14 godina

Big humiliation for Tadic, today at UNSC session.
(Kosova-USA, 6 July 2010 20:16)

And if a huge mob of mexicans decided to march into Washington and make a unilateral declaration of independance and call upon the UN and the rest of the world to recognise them as the new state of Mexicana Washingtonia, you would just expect the President of the US to sit back, accept that it is just democracy in action and not to defend your land? I suspect that the US would behave in a much less diplomatic and peaceful and eloquent fashion than the Serbs have to date. Its ok when it happens to someone else but when it happens to you, things feel so different, something you would do well to appreciate before you spurt your endless anti Serb rhetoric. I, for one, really believe that Tadic has been incredibly effective and principled with the speeches he has made at various gatherings and would wish him and Serbia all the very best luck and support in their continued peaceful quest for justice. Thats my opinion!

Colin

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.>
(Denis, 6 July 2010 18:54)

thanks, denis, i appreciate your contribution. as i have been saying, there is some room (and desperate need) to think outside the box.

i agree with you about the blgd regime -- same milosevic-style tactics. we're still not positive who is committing the violence, though for most of us it was pretty obvious. the troubles absolutely play into the blgd regime's game plan: "violence and anarchy, that's what an independent Kosova is all about. ancient animosities, bla bla." so while their immediate target was halting the (re)establishment of the kosovar courthouse, the surrounding fireworks is the "inspired" violence. take it to the UN, and prove that the courthouse opening itself is at fault -- hunh?

and i've read that at least w/the liberal politician, the suspect is a 16 year old serb young man (duh.) if you are any kind of liberal in that world you are at great! risk from your fellow serbs, just ask our frnd cedi how many assassination attempts he and his family have survived, and not by albanian "terrorists," thank you very much.

so i think tadic really embarrassed himself, on the world stage, yet again.

and to once again proclaim that they will NEVER recognize an independent kosova -- what's that, if not the most flagrant arrogance, esp.ly while awaiting the icj ruling, which they themselves demanded.

that isn't a "moderate" -- that's a hard-core nationalist, despite anyone's lecture to the contrary.

as for kosovar serbs and albanians learning to live together: i am very reticent to make these broad generalizations about all serbs or all albanians, even in mitrovica alone. i don't blame all serbs for what happened in 1999 (and before) -- many, but certainly not all. and i certainly don't blame ALL kosovar albanians for retribution attacks, attacks on orthodox churches, cemeteries, etc. there are extremists, moderates, good people (and bad) on all sides.

BUT, we cannot have progress as long as demagogic politicians (esp. from the north) continue to add pressure to an already raw situation, not to mention the pretty blatant importation of foreign agents, mup, whatever! that must be dealt with. EULEX, wake up.

for these reasons and more, i've made the suggestion about a kind of international governance of ALL of mitrovica, ala bosnia's brcko, with a person like raffi gregorian helping to ensure full minority rights, rights of return, rule of law, multi-ethnic education, etc, within the structures of kosova. special protection for members of all groups.

and finally establishing real borders, which is a necessity, however much we wish to deemphasize borders for the future.

i'd appreciate yr thoughts on the idea, denis, and anyone else, whatever yr ethnicity.

and Joe, if yr reading this: my personal advice, which i do not myself always follow, is to ignore the attacks, which always tell so much more about the perpetrator than the target. it isn't easy, and there are many who are just dying to pull us down into their hate fest. it just pushes us off message, and saps necessary, precious energy. learning the hard way :)

ciao!

roberto
frisco

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Albanians here seem very nervous, very mad, and they should be, from what was a very effective speech from Tadic. Serbia has most of the world behind her, and Tadic knows this, this is why he is lambasting Eulex, and rightly so. It is not 1999 any more, and there is no more Yeltsin. I would love to see the US try to do what they did now that Putin is in power and that they are bankrupt.
Serbia is in the driver's seat, and time is on our side my friends.

justthetruth

pre 14 godina

We know that tomorrow, some other country might find itself in a similar situation, and the world would rapidly discover that the rushing river let loose by Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence has become an uncontrolled cascade of secession across the globe. That is why we strongly urge all non-recognizing member states to stay the course," Tadić stated.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,really he seems like and sign like some kind Serbian Nostradamus ... People really think something like that someone will buy to my knowledge only coca cola generation

Artan S

pre 14 godina

Well well, I can assure most of you that you are all missing a crucial point here, if you read the full article the essence of his speech was very little to do with the incident. In actual fact tadic & co are so nervous the couldn't wait for this opportunity to try and threaten the rest of te world, typical. Well guess what mr Hyseni had him so worked out that couldn't bare and typical Serbian politician can't handle a smarter better prepared Albanian, and decided to leave in vain. And only to follow with jeremic taking his seat and not allowed to speak. How ironic, they called this meeting and guess what they heard the unspokable dirty politict tactics being told to the whole world.

Oh didn't that sesion make my day. :)

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.
(Peggy, 6 July 2010 23:16)
Very well said Peggy.These guys think that people will easily forget their dirty posts full of hatred and frustration.If someone dares to mention it they start behaving like a rat stuck in the corner.Primitiv counterattack mixed with hysteria.

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

really, have been saying for years that propaganda does nothing and has done nothing for serbs...

this latest bout of nonsense will backfire on serbs.

how little they have changed... the serb govt. that is. the glee in wich they create fiction that insults the intelligence of anyone listening... anyone other than rabid serb nationalists.

Do you guys really not see how sadly transparent it all is?

so sad, so sad.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 21:24)
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Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.

spunky

pre 14 godina

To Staff

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !
(Staff, 6 July 2010 21:13)

I think you watch to many movies my friend. I also would like to thank you and all the Serbs like you that keep on thinking of us Albanians as being nothing but"uneducated people that just made it out of the amazon yesterday afternoon".. With your ignorance and nonsense mythological accusations towards Albanians, you have truly helped speed up the process to solving our cause. While likes of you try to solve conspiracy-theories, the rest of us will get on with our lives and try to make a better life for our children.
cheers
spunky

EA

pre 14 godina

I can see a lot of DESPERATION in Tadic's speech especially in blaming the other for Serbia's destructive approach when it comes to Kosovo/a.

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?

Staff

pre 14 godina

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni told the 15-nation council that Pristina viewed the bomb attack in Mitrovica, in north-western Kosovo, as a "criminal act" that Pristina has decided to investigate."

I just read this on a site.
Wait a moment..Hyseni talking to the council? But the Serbs proclamed all the time that he will not be allowed in, much less speaking to the council. Times are changing fast as I see.

JohnC.

pre 14 godina

Shooting their own people and throwing grenades on crowds... Serbs clearly losing their nervs. But not really surprsising judging from the current development.

Joe

pre 14 godina

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.
(szemi, 6 July 2010 17:38)

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Lets work for mutual benefit.
(bganon, 6 July 2010 17:55)


bganon I know exactly what you mean but EU can't afford to do that.
Serbs in N of Mitrovica have to integrate into Kosova's institutions.

Remember that even if Albanians and Serbs say OK for Presheva Valley to join Kosova and the northern part to join Serbia there is EU and USA who won't let it happen.
They simply can't afford another Balkan War involving at least 6 Balkan nations. Once everyone in EU there won't be mentioning any border by anyone in the region.

pss

pre 14 godina

Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.
(Fruskija, 6 July 2010 18:16)
All that will take is to get the UNSC to order the withdrawal of EULEX. It took a consensus to let them in, and only a consensus can take them out.
China and Russia agreed to let EULEX in, now you only have to convince US, UK, and France to force them out. Good luck!

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

It was very unfortunate to se the Serbian President leave the UN session with his head down regretting that he called the emergency session. I guess the world did not buy his intention to destabilize Kosovo. On the other hand Kosovo FM was very professional and used facts to promote peace and stability.

Michael R

pre 14 godina

If all MUP officers are ordered out of Kosova as agreed to in Res.#1244, then the problem would be solved and Albanians, and Serbs without blood on their hands, would learn to live together once again. It is quite evident that the Serb Gov't had no intention from the beginning to abide by 1244, yet when it serves their purposes screams bloody murder about everyone else not respecting the Resolution. Belgrade does not want peace with the Albanians since it has resorted to all the amateurish tricks of Milosevic. BTW, doesn't Janez sound peculiarly similar to Jason in both tone and dogma.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

ximi

Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...

johny

pre 14 godina

After watching Tadic speak at the UNSC I have to say how grateful I am he is Serbia's president. He's more of a tool than Hyseni. Hoepfuly he'll get another term.

Fruskija

pre 14 godina

Well we're happy with our president's speech. He named names and told them they will be out the door. They expected us to ignore what they're doing in north and put it under the carpet instead our president is in UN naming names. I hope everyone understands what this means. Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.

Denis

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.
(winston, 6 July 2010 10:46)


This is not about the Gov in Pristina, nor is it about the int'l presence. This is about the reconciliation of two people with a bitter history. This is about the hate tradition that goes back decades and that was forged primarily under the Serbian rule of Kosovo.

Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.

Boban

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
(ximi, 6 July 2010, 17:54)

Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 14:52)

I never said that it was a one man conspiracy. I just said that serbian security service was involved. If i knew who was it would alert the KFOR or Kosovo Police to make sure they arrest him/them. I am saddend and I feel sorry for doctors family. It is unfortunate that serbian government would do such a crime just to escalate the situation.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"Tadić pointed out that the incident on Friday, when a group of protesting Serbs was attacked in northern Kosovska Mitrovica, when one person died, was an attempt to increase inter-ethnic tensions and sabotage the quest for comprehensive peace".

Exactly I agree with Tadic on this one - hence why I suspect that this was done by serbian extreme elements in the north.

That is not an emotional statement based on some belief that we albanians do not commit crimes ever - we do - buts its based on analyzing the consequences of the attack and the likely motives.

These attacks in N. of Mitrovica only benefit Belgrade that is trying soo hard to portray the current situation on Kosovo as unstable - had it not been for them incidents, Tadic would not have been able to give this 'glorious' speech. I am not sayin that this might have been done by direct orders from Belgrade but it is likely that is an organised and premeditated attacks by some groups with political motives.

Had this happened in other parts of Kosovo, I would have said that an attack by and angry albanian might have been more likely...but in N. of Mitrovica this makes no sense: 1.serbs are unlikely to leave, 2.it will lead to increased call for partition and 3. it will expose the albanians living there to increased danger and attacks by serbs 4. there were no preceding clashes to incite this attack.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Tadić hints at "reassessing relations"

Well, you better reassess (obey what they say or else you will be bombed)the relations before they reassess with you.

Serbia is no player, and this is why everyone takes Serbia for a ride.

ximi

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

bganon

pre 14 godina

PRN the only problem with some countries of the west ie UK and US wanting to 'reasses' Tadic is that he is the the most moderate player in town and has the support of the majority of Serbians for his Kosovo policy.

If the west was to 'reassess' Tadic they would only likely prolong (and cement) his rule in Serbia. The only way to handle Tadic is to negotiate with him.

The fact is that much of what Tadic says makes sense and it even makes sense from a non partisan western standpoint. Only ardent supporters of Kosovo independence will be upset by it.

The thing is nothing is changing in Kosovo and its helping nobody. Lets do something different, lets change policy. Lets work for mutual benefit.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.
(kosovaman, 6 July 2010 14:05)

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 12:18)

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.

kate

pre 14 godina

Kosovaman: "... from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker."

How do you know that? And why would a security officer be such a poor shot that he fired 4 times and only hit the leg of the victim?

And what about the murder of the doctor? Do you really believe that someone in the crowd exploded a grenade, and that it was also a security officer?

Your comment bears no logic whatsoever.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

I hope Tadic lets loose at the SC and gives the Albanians and their NATO imperialist masters an earful. The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.

Karlsdad

pre 14 godina

You may be correct, Olf, the policies that are being conducted in N. Mitrovica may be "Milosevic style", but they are being now practiced by Pristina. You must have heard of that saying, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Pristina Albanians should concentrate on improving the territroy that was given to them by the internationals to control - they should improve it, help people find jobs, establish multi-ethnic tolerance, stop corruption and crime as much as possible, and so on, and then use those successes as reason to establish their presence north of the Ibar. Don't you agree? If not, where do we differ in opinion?

PRO-SERBIA

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is really happening in Kosovo province and why this western sponsored so called independence project a TOTAL FAILURE.
Correct! The separatists in pristina is trying their best to "fool" everyone in order to gain recognition from non western puppet states.

Olf

pre 14 godina

Latest incident is Mitrovica are Milosevic style incidents.
BTW, what is Tadic soing in NY when Kosovo Foreing Minister is there too. I thought that Tadic is not going to attend any meeting where Kosovo officials are present.

winston

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.

winston

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

I hope Tadic lets loose at the SC and gives the Albanians and their NATO imperialist masters an earful. The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is really happening in Kosovo province and why this western sponsored so called independence project a TOTAL FAILURE.
Correct! The separatists in pristina is trying their best to "fool" everyone in order to gain recognition from non western puppet states.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.
(kosovaman, 6 July 2010 14:05)

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.

kate

pre 14 godina

Kosovaman: "... from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker."

How do you know that? And why would a security officer be such a poor shot that he fired 4 times and only hit the leg of the victim?

And what about the murder of the doctor? Do you really believe that someone in the crowd exploded a grenade, and that it was also a security officer?

Your comment bears no logic whatsoever.

Karlsdad

pre 14 godina

You may be correct, Olf, the policies that are being conducted in N. Mitrovica may be "Milosevic style", but they are being now practiced by Pristina. You must have heard of that saying, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Pristina Albanians should concentrate on improving the territroy that was given to them by the internationals to control - they should improve it, help people find jobs, establish multi-ethnic tolerance, stop corruption and crime as much as possible, and so on, and then use those successes as reason to establish their presence north of the Ibar. Don't you agree? If not, where do we differ in opinion?

Olf

pre 14 godina

Latest incident is Mitrovica are Milosevic style incidents.
BTW, what is Tadic soing in NY when Kosovo Foreing Minister is there too. I thought that Tadic is not going to attend any meeting where Kosovo officials are present.

Staff

pre 14 godina

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 12:18)

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.

Boban

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
(ximi, 6 July 2010, 17:54)

Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

ximi

Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni told the 15-nation council that Pristina viewed the bomb attack in Mitrovica, in north-western Kosovo, as a "criminal act" that Pristina has decided to investigate."

I just read this on a site.
Wait a moment..Hyseni talking to the council? But the Serbs proclamed all the time that he will not be allowed in, much less speaking to the council. Times are changing fast as I see.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 14:52)

I never said that it was a one man conspiracy. I just said that serbian security service was involved. If i knew who was it would alert the KFOR or Kosovo Police to make sure they arrest him/them. I am saddend and I feel sorry for doctors family. It is unfortunate that serbian government would do such a crime just to escalate the situation.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

It was very unfortunate to se the Serbian President leave the UN session with his head down regretting that he called the emergency session. I guess the world did not buy his intention to destabilize Kosovo. On the other hand Kosovo FM was very professional and used facts to promote peace and stability.

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

really, have been saying for years that propaganda does nothing and has done nothing for serbs...

this latest bout of nonsense will backfire on serbs.

how little they have changed... the serb govt. that is. the glee in wich they create fiction that insults the intelligence of anyone listening... anyone other than rabid serb nationalists.

Do you guys really not see how sadly transparent it all is?

so sad, so sad.

JohnC.

pre 14 godina

Shooting their own people and throwing grenades on crowds... Serbs clearly losing their nervs. But not really surprsising judging from the current development.

EA

pre 14 godina

I can see a lot of DESPERATION in Tadic's speech especially in blaming the other for Serbia's destructive approach when it comes to Kosovo/a.

bganon

pre 14 godina

PRN the only problem with some countries of the west ie UK and US wanting to 'reasses' Tadic is that he is the the most moderate player in town and has the support of the majority of Serbians for his Kosovo policy.

If the west was to 'reassess' Tadic they would only likely prolong (and cement) his rule in Serbia. The only way to handle Tadic is to negotiate with him.

The fact is that much of what Tadic says makes sense and it even makes sense from a non partisan western standpoint. Only ardent supporters of Kosovo independence will be upset by it.

The thing is nothing is changing in Kosovo and its helping nobody. Lets do something different, lets change policy. Lets work for mutual benefit.

Fruskija

pre 14 godina

Well we're happy with our president's speech. He named names and told them they will be out the door. They expected us to ignore what they're doing in north and put it under the carpet instead our president is in UN naming names. I hope everyone understands what this means. Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.

Joe

pre 14 godina

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.
(szemi, 6 July 2010 17:38)

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.

spunky

pre 14 godina

To Staff

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !
(Staff, 6 July 2010 21:13)

I think you watch to many movies my friend. I also would like to thank you and all the Serbs like you that keep on thinking of us Albanians as being nothing but"uneducated people that just made it out of the amazon yesterday afternoon".. With your ignorance and nonsense mythological accusations towards Albanians, you have truly helped speed up the process to solving our cause. While likes of you try to solve conspiracy-theories, the rest of us will get on with our lives and try to make a better life for our children.
cheers
spunky

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Albanians here seem very nervous, very mad, and they should be, from what was a very effective speech from Tadic. Serbia has most of the world behind her, and Tadic knows this, this is why he is lambasting Eulex, and rightly so. It is not 1999 any more, and there is no more Yeltsin. I would love to see the US try to do what they did now that Putin is in power and that they are bankrupt.
Serbia is in the driver's seat, and time is on our side my friends.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 21:24)
===================

Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Tadić hints at "reassessing relations"

Well, you better reassess (obey what they say or else you will be bombed)the relations before they reassess with you.

Serbia is no player, and this is why everyone takes Serbia for a ride.

ximi

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

Michael R

pre 14 godina

If all MUP officers are ordered out of Kosova as agreed to in Res.#1244, then the problem would be solved and Albanians, and Serbs without blood on their hands, would learn to live together once again. It is quite evident that the Serb Gov't had no intention from the beginning to abide by 1244, yet when it serves their purposes screams bloody murder about everyone else not respecting the Resolution. Belgrade does not want peace with the Albanians since it has resorted to all the amateurish tricks of Milosevic. BTW, doesn't Janez sound peculiarly similar to Jason in both tone and dogma.

roberto

pre 14 godina

>Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.>
(Denis, 6 July 2010 18:54)

thanks, denis, i appreciate your contribution. as i have been saying, there is some room (and desperate need) to think outside the box.

i agree with you about the blgd regime -- same milosevic-style tactics. we're still not positive who is committing the violence, though for most of us it was pretty obvious. the troubles absolutely play into the blgd regime's game plan: "violence and anarchy, that's what an independent Kosova is all about. ancient animosities, bla bla." so while their immediate target was halting the (re)establishment of the kosovar courthouse, the surrounding fireworks is the "inspired" violence. take it to the UN, and prove that the courthouse opening itself is at fault -- hunh?

and i've read that at least w/the liberal politician, the suspect is a 16 year old serb young man (duh.) if you are any kind of liberal in that world you are at great! risk from your fellow serbs, just ask our frnd cedi how many assassination attempts he and his family have survived, and not by albanian "terrorists," thank you very much.

so i think tadic really embarrassed himself, on the world stage, yet again.

and to once again proclaim that they will NEVER recognize an independent kosova -- what's that, if not the most flagrant arrogance, esp.ly while awaiting the icj ruling, which they themselves demanded.

that isn't a "moderate" -- that's a hard-core nationalist, despite anyone's lecture to the contrary.

as for kosovar serbs and albanians learning to live together: i am very reticent to make these broad generalizations about all serbs or all albanians, even in mitrovica alone. i don't blame all serbs for what happened in 1999 (and before) -- many, but certainly not all. and i certainly don't blame ALL kosovar albanians for retribution attacks, attacks on orthodox churches, cemeteries, etc. there are extremists, moderates, good people (and bad) on all sides.

BUT, we cannot have progress as long as demagogic politicians (esp. from the north) continue to add pressure to an already raw situation, not to mention the pretty blatant importation of foreign agents, mup, whatever! that must be dealt with. EULEX, wake up.

for these reasons and more, i've made the suggestion about a kind of international governance of ALL of mitrovica, ala bosnia's brcko, with a person like raffi gregorian helping to ensure full minority rights, rights of return, rule of law, multi-ethnic education, etc, within the structures of kosova. special protection for members of all groups.

and finally establishing real borders, which is a necessity, however much we wish to deemphasize borders for the future.

i'd appreciate yr thoughts on the idea, denis, and anyone else, whatever yr ethnicity.

and Joe, if yr reading this: my personal advice, which i do not myself always follow, is to ignore the attacks, which always tell so much more about the perpetrator than the target. it isn't easy, and there are many who are just dying to pull us down into their hate fest. it just pushes us off message, and saps necessary, precious energy. learning the hard way :)

ciao!

roberto
frisco

johny

pre 14 godina

After watching Tadic speak at the UNSC I have to say how grateful I am he is Serbia's president. He's more of a tool than Hyseni. Hoepfuly he'll get another term.

Colin

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"Tadić pointed out that the incident on Friday, when a group of protesting Serbs was attacked in northern Kosovska Mitrovica, when one person died, was an attempt to increase inter-ethnic tensions and sabotage the quest for comprehensive peace".

Exactly I agree with Tadic on this one - hence why I suspect that this was done by serbian extreme elements in the north.

That is not an emotional statement based on some belief that we albanians do not commit crimes ever - we do - buts its based on analyzing the consequences of the attack and the likely motives.

These attacks in N. of Mitrovica only benefit Belgrade that is trying soo hard to portray the current situation on Kosovo as unstable - had it not been for them incidents, Tadic would not have been able to give this 'glorious' speech. I am not sayin that this might have been done by direct orders from Belgrade but it is likely that is an organised and premeditated attacks by some groups with political motives.

Had this happened in other parts of Kosovo, I would have said that an attack by and angry albanian might have been more likely...but in N. of Mitrovica this makes no sense: 1.serbs are unlikely to leave, 2.it will lead to increased call for partition and 3. it will expose the albanians living there to increased danger and attacks by serbs 4. there were no preceding clashes to incite this attack.

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Lets work for mutual benefit.
(bganon, 6 July 2010 17:55)


bganon I know exactly what you mean but EU can't afford to do that.
Serbs in N of Mitrovica have to integrate into Kosova's institutions.

Remember that even if Albanians and Serbs say OK for Presheva Valley to join Kosova and the northern part to join Serbia there is EU and USA who won't let it happen.
They simply can't afford another Balkan War involving at least 6 Balkan nations. Once everyone in EU there won't be mentioning any border by anyone in the region.

UK

pre 14 godina

Big humiliation for Tadic, today at UNSC session.
(Kosova-USA, 6 July 2010 20:16)

And if a huge mob of mexicans decided to march into Washington and make a unilateral declaration of independance and call upon the UN and the rest of the world to recognise them as the new state of Mexicana Washingtonia, you would just expect the President of the US to sit back, accept that it is just democracy in action and not to defend your land? I suspect that the US would behave in a much less diplomatic and peaceful and eloquent fashion than the Serbs have to date. Its ok when it happens to someone else but when it happens to you, things feel so different, something you would do well to appreciate before you spurt your endless anti Serb rhetoric. I, for one, really believe that Tadic has been incredibly effective and principled with the speeches he has made at various gatherings and would wish him and Serbia all the very best luck and support in their continued peaceful quest for justice. Thats my opinion!

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - it is all very well preaching the need for Serb-Albanian peace and love, but what is truly insulting is that this has to flow one way and not the other. There was never any desire for KAs to work within the confines of the Serbian state, and so it is a bit rich now to ask Kosovo Serbs, especially those living in the north, to play nice with Pristina.

I am sorry if you felt offended by my comments, but I am really fed up with the number of times I hear KAs calling for the north to be integrated - by force, if needs be - and yet never seem to be able to consider that their arguments smack of the very worst kind of hypocrisy. It really is astounding. You may have dressed your comments up in more moderate terms, but the lack of self-awareness is just as acute in your case as in all the other examples that we have on these forums.

If moderate KAs - yourself included - had any decency at all they would be front and centre of the debate preaching the right of the northern Sebs to go their own way, just as Serbia should allow the KAs to have their 'freedom' from Belgrade. Self-determination is surely a right shared by all. If I heard more of this, then I would be willing to take a more charitable view of your comments.

So, will you say that openly?

Ron

pre 14 godina

So maybe Kosovo 'independence' wasn't such a great idea at all!

The world must be aware that 'Kosovo' opened Pandora's Box.

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?

Denis

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.
(winston, 6 July 2010 10:46)


This is not about the Gov in Pristina, nor is it about the int'l presence. This is about the reconciliation of two people with a bitter history. This is about the hate tradition that goes back decades and that was forged primarily under the Serbian rule of Kosovo.

Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.

pss

pre 14 godina

Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.
(Fruskija, 6 July 2010 18:16)
All that will take is to get the UNSC to order the withdrawal of EULEX. It took a consensus to let them in, and only a consensus can take them out.
China and Russia agreed to let EULEX in, now you only have to convince US, UK, and France to force them out. Good luck!

Artan S

pre 14 godina

Well well, I can assure most of you that you are all missing a crucial point here, if you read the full article the essence of his speech was very little to do with the incident. In actual fact tadic & co are so nervous the couldn't wait for this opportunity to try and threaten the rest of te world, typical. Well guess what mr Hyseni had him so worked out that couldn't bare and typical Serbian politician can't handle a smarter better prepared Albanian, and decided to leave in vain. And only to follow with jeremic taking his seat and not allowed to speak. How ironic, they called this meeting and guess what they heard the unspokable dirty politict tactics being told to the whole world.

Oh didn't that sesion make my day. :)

justthetruth

pre 14 godina

We know that tomorrow, some other country might find itself in a similar situation, and the world would rapidly discover that the rushing river let loose by Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence has become an uncontrolled cascade of secession across the globe. That is why we strongly urge all non-recognizing member states to stay the course," Tadić stated.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,really he seems like and sign like some kind Serbian Nostradamus ... People really think something like that someone will buy to my knowledge only coca cola generation

ximi

pre 14 godina

“Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?”
(Jim, 6 July 2010 21:03)

Dear Jim,
First of all I just shared my opinion for which you are entitled to disagree but there is no need for the insulting language. For this reason I see no point of replying to the points you raised.


“ximi
Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...
(Mikael C, 6 July 2010 19:02)”

Michael C,
All I am saying is that Serbs in other parts of Kosovo have managed to integrate reasonably well. Don’t misunderstand me I am not saying that things are perfect for Serbs in Kosovo, there is lots of work to be done but surely if we keep working together better days will come for all.



“Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.
(Boban, 6 July 2010 18:47)”

Boban,
I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. Can I just ask what Balgrade did for you in the last 10 years?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)

Now this is very funny coment.
Must have been Hyseni's twin brother in the same round table at UNSC.
I watched the whole UNSC session live , and Colin is talking about Google.

Pan

pre 14 godina

Last incidents were created by serbs themselves... it don't take a rocket scientist to know that.
It's time that kosovo reacts more aggressive against these serb thugs.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.
(Peggy, 6 July 2010 23:16)
Very well said Peggy.These guys think that people will easily forget their dirty posts full of hatred and frustration.If someone dares to mention it they start behaving like a rat stuck in the corner.Primitiv counterattack mixed with hysteria.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?
(Ron, 7 July 2010 14:29)


You should file a law suite against Ban ki-Moon,

pss

pre 14 godina

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)
Maybe you should have gone to the UNSC website and viewed the webcast before writing.
Here is the link:
http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/

Not only does it have a recording of the interview of Hyseni after the session it also includes the session itself which has all the speakers including FM Hyseni.

Olf

pre 14 godina

Latest incident is Mitrovica are Milosevic style incidents.
BTW, what is Tadic soing in NY when Kosovo Foreing Minister is there too. I thought that Tadic is not going to attend any meeting where Kosovo officials are present.

winston

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 12:18)

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 14 godina

The world must know what is really happening in Kosovo province and why this western sponsored so called independence project a TOTAL FAILURE.
Correct! The separatists in pristina is trying their best to "fool" everyone in order to gain recognition from non western puppet states.

Michael R

pre 14 godina

If all MUP officers are ordered out of Kosova as agreed to in Res.#1244, then the problem would be solved and Albanians, and Serbs without blood on their hands, would learn to live together once again. It is quite evident that the Serb Gov't had no intention from the beginning to abide by 1244, yet when it serves their purposes screams bloody murder about everyone else not respecting the Resolution. Belgrade does not want peace with the Albanians since it has resorted to all the amateurish tricks of Milosevic. BTW, doesn't Janez sound peculiarly similar to Jason in both tone and dogma.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

I hope Tadic lets loose at the SC and gives the Albanians and their NATO imperialist masters an earful. The world must know what is happening in Kosmet. The Albanians are once again putting the boot onto Kosovo's Serbs, Roma and Bosniaks.

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

It was very unfortunate to se the Serbian President leave the UN session with his head down regretting that he called the emergency session. I guess the world did not buy his intention to destabilize Kosovo. On the other hand Kosovo FM was very professional and used facts to promote peace and stability.

Joe

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.

johny

pre 14 godina

After watching Tadic speak at the UNSC I have to say how grateful I am he is Serbia's president. He's more of a tool than Hyseni. Hoepfuly he'll get another term.

PRN

pre 14 godina

Tadić hints at "reassessing relations"

Well, you better reassess (obey what they say or else you will be bombed)the relations before they reassess with you.

Serbia is no player, and this is why everyone takes Serbia for a ride.

AdamNYC

pre 14 godina

really, have been saying for years that propaganda does nothing and has done nothing for serbs...

this latest bout of nonsense will backfire on serbs.

how little they have changed... the serb govt. that is. the glee in wich they create fiction that insults the intelligence of anyone listening... anyone other than rabid serb nationalists.

Do you guys really not see how sadly transparent it all is?

so sad, so sad.

ximi

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE

Mikael C

pre 14 godina

ximi

Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...

EA

pre 14 godina

I can see a lot of DESPERATION in Tadic's speech especially in blaming the other for Serbia's destructive approach when it comes to Kosovo/a.

Peggy

pre 14 godina

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 21:24)
===================

Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.

kate

pre 14 godina

Kosovaman: "... from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker."

How do you know that? And why would a security officer be such a poor shot that he fired 4 times and only hit the leg of the victim?

And what about the murder of the doctor? Do you really believe that someone in the crowd exploded a grenade, and that it was also a security officer?

Your comment bears no logic whatsoever.

JohnC.

pre 14 godina

Shooting their own people and throwing grenades on crowds... Serbs clearly losing their nervs. But not really surprsising judging from the current development.

Denis

pre 14 godina

The member states of the UN must be made aware of what is going on in Kosovo, and the reign of terror that is being imposed on minorities by the local Albanians. How in the world do the albanians in Pristina expect Serbs to allow them into their territory, when they are being shot at, killed, stoned, persecuted, etc., on a daily basis by local Albanians? Pristina is dying to become a member of the UN and gain recognition as an independent state, at all costs, but they cannot contain themselves from driving Serbs from their own land - the hatred is too strong. Only when the International Community gets tired of these fools in Pristina, and their primitive ways, will there be real, non-biased status talks that will be of benefit to all the citizens in KiM. I am sure that Pristina is wearing the Internationals patience thin.
(winston, 6 July 2010 10:46)


This is not about the Gov in Pristina, nor is it about the int'l presence. This is about the reconciliation of two people with a bitter history. This is about the hate tradition that goes back decades and that was forged primarily under the Serbian rule of Kosovo.

Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.

Karlsdad

pre 14 godina

You may be correct, Olf, the policies that are being conducted in N. Mitrovica may be "Milosevic style", but they are being now practiced by Pristina. You must have heard of that saying, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Pristina Albanians should concentrate on improving the territroy that was given to them by the internationals to control - they should improve it, help people find jobs, establish multi-ethnic tolerance, stop corruption and crime as much as possible, and so on, and then use those successes as reason to establish their presence north of the Ibar. Don't you agree? If not, where do we differ in opinion?

kosovaman

pre 14 godina

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.
(Janez-Beograd, 6 July 2010 14:52)

I never said that it was a one man conspiracy. I just said that serbian security service was involved. If i knew who was it would alert the KFOR or Kosovo Police to make sure they arrest him/them. I am saddend and I feel sorry for doctors family. It is unfortunate that serbian government would do such a crime just to escalate the situation.

nikshala

pre 14 godina

"Tadić pointed out that the incident on Friday, when a group of protesting Serbs was attacked in northern Kosovska Mitrovica, when one person died, was an attempt to increase inter-ethnic tensions and sabotage the quest for comprehensive peace".

Exactly I agree with Tadic on this one - hence why I suspect that this was done by serbian extreme elements in the north.

That is not an emotional statement based on some belief that we albanians do not commit crimes ever - we do - buts its based on analyzing the consequences of the attack and the likely motives.

These attacks in N. of Mitrovica only benefit Belgrade that is trying soo hard to portray the current situation on Kosovo as unstable - had it not been for them incidents, Tadic would not have been able to give this 'glorious' speech. I am not sayin that this might have been done by direct orders from Belgrade but it is likely that is an organised and premeditated attacks by some groups with political motives.

Had this happened in other parts of Kosovo, I would have said that an attack by and angry albanian might have been more likely...but in N. of Mitrovica this makes no sense: 1.serbs are unlikely to leave, 2.it will lead to increased call for partition and 3. it will expose the albanians living there to increased danger and attacks by serbs 4. there were no preceding clashes to incite this attack.

Janez-Beograd

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. I don't understand the reason for your excitement.
(kosovaman, 6 July 2010 14:05)

So this Serbian security officer attacked the protest which killed the Bosniak, shot the Liberal Party guy and fired shots at the Serb journalist.

Is his name Chuck Norris by any chance? I am not excited, it is the yellow press in Pristina that is being excited.

spunky

pre 14 godina

To Staff

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !
(Staff, 6 July 2010 21:13)

I think you watch to many movies my friend. I also would like to thank you and all the Serbs like you that keep on thinking of us Albanians as being nothing but"uneducated people that just made it out of the amazon yesterday afternoon".. With your ignorance and nonsense mythological accusations towards Albanians, you have truly helped speed up the process to solving our cause. While likes of you try to solve conspiracy-theories, the rest of us will get on with our lives and try to make a better life for our children.
cheers
spunky

roberto

pre 14 godina

>Mitrovica Serbs did nothing to prevent the slaughter of K-Alb neighbors in 1999 and their forced expulsion ... and now they want to live in peace as nothing happened.

K-Alb can't seem to stop thinking that any tolerance towards the Serbs in the area will be their demise sooner or later.

The one that might help is a focus on economic issues from both sides, which will calm down the nationalistic rhetoric and promote cooperation and co-existence through economic exchange and trade. But Belgrade will not talk to Pristina about this stuff, it rather prefers to sit on the high horse of primitive Balkan style politics and contribute to polarization of the situation.>
(Denis, 6 July 2010 18:54)

thanks, denis, i appreciate your contribution. as i have been saying, there is some room (and desperate need) to think outside the box.

i agree with you about the blgd regime -- same milosevic-style tactics. we're still not positive who is committing the violence, though for most of us it was pretty obvious. the troubles absolutely play into the blgd regime's game plan: "violence and anarchy, that's what an independent Kosova is all about. ancient animosities, bla bla." so while their immediate target was halting the (re)establishment of the kosovar courthouse, the surrounding fireworks is the "inspired" violence. take it to the UN, and prove that the courthouse opening itself is at fault -- hunh?

and i've read that at least w/the liberal politician, the suspect is a 16 year old serb young man (duh.) if you are any kind of liberal in that world you are at great! risk from your fellow serbs, just ask our frnd cedi how many assassination attempts he and his family have survived, and not by albanian "terrorists," thank you very much.

so i think tadic really embarrassed himself, on the world stage, yet again.

and to once again proclaim that they will NEVER recognize an independent kosova -- what's that, if not the most flagrant arrogance, esp.ly while awaiting the icj ruling, which they themselves demanded.

that isn't a "moderate" -- that's a hard-core nationalist, despite anyone's lecture to the contrary.

as for kosovar serbs and albanians learning to live together: i am very reticent to make these broad generalizations about all serbs or all albanians, even in mitrovica alone. i don't blame all serbs for what happened in 1999 (and before) -- many, but certainly not all. and i certainly don't blame ALL kosovar albanians for retribution attacks, attacks on orthodox churches, cemeteries, etc. there are extremists, moderates, good people (and bad) on all sides.

BUT, we cannot have progress as long as demagogic politicians (esp. from the north) continue to add pressure to an already raw situation, not to mention the pretty blatant importation of foreign agents, mup, whatever! that must be dealt with. EULEX, wake up.

for these reasons and more, i've made the suggestion about a kind of international governance of ALL of mitrovica, ala bosnia's brcko, with a person like raffi gregorian helping to ensure full minority rights, rights of return, rule of law, multi-ethnic education, etc, within the structures of kosova. special protection for members of all groups.

and finally establishing real borders, which is a necessity, however much we wish to deemphasize borders for the future.

i'd appreciate yr thoughts on the idea, denis, and anyone else, whatever yr ethnicity.

and Joe, if yr reading this: my personal advice, which i do not myself always follow, is to ignore the attacks, which always tell so much more about the perpetrator than the target. it isn't easy, and there are many who are just dying to pull us down into their hate fest. it just pushes us off message, and saps necessary, precious energy. learning the hard way :)

ciao!

roberto
frisco

Nelli_Canada

pre 14 godina

Lets work for mutual benefit.
(bganon, 6 July 2010 17:55)


bganon I know exactly what you mean but EU can't afford to do that.
Serbs in N of Mitrovica have to integrate into Kosova's institutions.

Remember that even if Albanians and Serbs say OK for Presheva Valley to join Kosova and the northern part to join Serbia there is EU and USA who won't let it happen.
They simply can't afford another Balkan War involving at least 6 Balkan nations. Once everyone in EU there won't be mentioning any border by anyone in the region.

Staff

pre 14 godina

First of all ! All gratulations to the Serbian people. You have, like it or not, one of the top 10 president AND foreign minister in the world. Ask the EU in Brussels !! They are smart, well educated, real intelligent and many, many world leaders respect and envy them. I know this due to my profession. The K albanians do not seem to get it. Kosovo will never be really independent !! They do not seem to believe that the game is coming to an end, even if it will take several years to come. I will ask the K Albanian readers; Do you REALLY belive that Tadic would stand in New York in front of the UNSC, which represents the WHOLE world and say like he did if he was not 100% sure which side the grenade/bomb came from??! Do you know what intelligence is, do you know what informant handling is, do you know what paid informers are, do you know what high level information exchange is ?? You think you know this, but you have not a brightest clue I can tell you. The ICJs verdict is closing u and believe me, or you will be surprised, the judges read reports from Kosovo, EVERY day !

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well Janez, from what it looks like all the incidents that Tadic is going to represent at the UN today, involve a Serbian security officer being an attacker. kosovaman

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?

Joe

pre 14 godina

A failed and very amateurish Serbian act, that comes back as a boomerang.
(Joe, 6 July 2010 15:05)

Hehe here we go again our big expert of Balkans who has admitidly never been east or south of Cavtat and never met an albanian has already solved the problem and knows exactly who comitted the act.Let us not forget that this is the guy who imidiatly pointed the finger at serbs accusing them of self provocation when some Hungarian nazis from 64 counties desecred some ortodox graves in Vojvodina.These self proclaimed advocates of nazis are the last thing hungarians need today.Too much BS read on those pages edited by relatives of former arrow cross members seem to have developed a heavy ortodoxphobia in his mind.
(szemi, 6 July 2010 17:38)

Will you ever be able to come up with a posting of your own without piggy backing on my comments? Do you have any idea of your own?
Until now you postings were nothing else than either pure lies or in best case distortions or mud slinging.
Are you able to do more than that? Also try to focus on the subject, if possible.

Colin

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.

Joe

pre 14 godina

"Hyseni told the 15-nation council that Pristina viewed the bomb attack in Mitrovica, in north-western Kosovo, as a "criminal act" that Pristina has decided to investigate."

I just read this on a site.
Wait a moment..Hyseni talking to the council? But the Serbs proclamed all the time that he will not be allowed in, much less speaking to the council. Times are changing fast as I see.

szemi

pre 14 godina

Well, it's kind of hard to ignore your postings. Someone has to keep you in line.
You and Roberto can't think that your ridiculous posts won't get shot down in flames.
(Peggy, 6 July 2010 23:16)
Very well said Peggy.These guys think that people will easily forget their dirty posts full of hatred and frustration.If someone dares to mention it they start behaving like a rat stuck in the corner.Primitiv counterattack mixed with hysteria.

Dragan

pre 14 godina

Albanians here seem very nervous, very mad, and they should be, from what was a very effective speech from Tadic. Serbia has most of the world behind her, and Tadic knows this, this is why he is lambasting Eulex, and rightly so. It is not 1999 any more, and there is no more Yeltsin. I would love to see the US try to do what they did now that Putin is in power and that they are bankrupt.
Serbia is in the driver's seat, and time is on our side my friends.

bganon

pre 14 godina

PRN the only problem with some countries of the west ie UK and US wanting to 'reasses' Tadic is that he is the the most moderate player in town and has the support of the majority of Serbians for his Kosovo policy.

If the west was to 'reassess' Tadic they would only likely prolong (and cement) his rule in Serbia. The only way to handle Tadic is to negotiate with him.

The fact is that much of what Tadic says makes sense and it even makes sense from a non partisan western standpoint. Only ardent supporters of Kosovo independence will be upset by it.

The thing is nothing is changing in Kosovo and its helping nobody. Lets do something different, lets change policy. Lets work for mutual benefit.

Boban

pre 14 godina

What about Serbia stops interfering in Kosovo’s internal affairs, give a chance to Serbs in Kosovo to live peacefully with Albanians , allow the Serbs in the North of Mitrovica to join the Kosovo institutions same as all other Serbian people in the rest of Kosovo and at least try to be a good neighbor for once.
PLEASE GIVE PEACE A CHANCE
(ximi, 6 July 2010, 17:54)

Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.

Pan

pre 14 godina

Last incidents were created by serbs themselves... it don't take a rocket scientist to know that.
It's time that kosovo reacts more aggressive against these serb thugs.

UK

pre 14 godina

Big humiliation for Tadic, today at UNSC session.
(Kosova-USA, 6 July 2010 20:16)

And if a huge mob of mexicans decided to march into Washington and make a unilateral declaration of independance and call upon the UN and the rest of the world to recognise them as the new state of Mexicana Washingtonia, you would just expect the President of the US to sit back, accept that it is just democracy in action and not to defend your land? I suspect that the US would behave in a much less diplomatic and peaceful and eloquent fashion than the Serbs have to date. Its ok when it happens to someone else but when it happens to you, things feel so different, something you would do well to appreciate before you spurt your endless anti Serb rhetoric. I, for one, really believe that Tadic has been incredibly effective and principled with the speeches he has made at various gatherings and would wish him and Serbia all the very best luck and support in their continued peaceful quest for justice. Thats my opinion!

Fruskija

pre 14 godina

Well we're happy with our president's speech. He named names and told them they will be out the door. They expected us to ignore what they're doing in north and put it under the carpet instead our president is in UN naming names. I hope everyone understands what this means. Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.

pss

pre 14 godina

Now more important let's see them out the door or restrained. Eulex of course. I don't care about local puppets.
(Fruskija, 6 July 2010 18:16)
All that will take is to get the UNSC to order the withdrawal of EULEX. It took a consensus to let them in, and only a consensus can take them out.
China and Russia agreed to let EULEX in, now you only have to convince US, UK, and France to force them out. Good luck!

Artan S

pre 14 godina

Well well, I can assure most of you that you are all missing a crucial point here, if you read the full article the essence of his speech was very little to do with the incident. In actual fact tadic & co are so nervous the couldn't wait for this opportunity to try and threaten the rest of te world, typical. Well guess what mr Hyseni had him so worked out that couldn't bare and typical Serbian politician can't handle a smarter better prepared Albanian, and decided to leave in vain. And only to follow with jeremic taking his seat and not allowed to speak. How ironic, they called this meeting and guess what they heard the unspokable dirty politict tactics being told to the whole world.

Oh didn't that sesion make my day. :)

Ron

pre 14 godina

So maybe Kosovo 'independence' wasn't such a great idea at all!

The world must be aware that 'Kosovo' opened Pandora's Box.

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?

ximi

pre 14 godina

“Ximi - do you actually listen to what you say? Or are you totally lacking a sense of irony? Just rephrase you comment for the 1980s and Serbia. Did Kosovo Albanians ever show any desire to work well with Belgrade. And now you expect Serbs to work with you. Seriously, this thinking is utterly unbelievable. Do Kosovo Albanians have no self-awareness?”
(Jim, 6 July 2010 21:03)

Dear Jim,
First of all I just shared my opinion for which you are entitled to disagree but there is no need for the insulting language. For this reason I see no point of replying to the points you raised.


“ximi
Albanians will have peace tomorrow if they stop harassing Serbs, stop destroying their property and return Kosmet to the Serbian church and its people. Then, and only then, will there be peace. Until this happens Kosovo is regarded as being under occupation. You will have as much peace as Israel has with its neighbours. Just waiting for the right time...
(Mikael C, 6 July 2010 19:02)”

Michael C,
All I am saying is that Serbs in other parts of Kosovo have managed to integrate reasonably well. Don’t misunderstand me I am not saying that things are perfect for Serbs in Kosovo, there is lots of work to be done but surely if we keep working together better days will come for all.



“Nothing wrong with peace, ximi but we do not want to be part of any Pristina instituton. This will never be accepted here in the north nor will nearly 100% of us ever accept it. This is the reality.
(Boban, 6 July 2010 18:47)”

Boban,
I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. Can I just ask what Balgrade did for you in the last 10 years?

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Or can Mr. Feith explain to Tibetans why they should remain within China? And to Kurds why they must remain in Iraq and Turkey?
(Ron, 7 July 2010 14:29)


You should file a law suite against Ban ki-Moon,

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

I love reading comments from people like Kosovo USA, who occasionally pretend they are involved in things.

His comments below insinuate that Mr Skender Hyseni enjoyed the opportunity to speak at the UN...

However if you look up at UN Security Council meeting on google, you will find links which show Skender was "interviewed by journalists outside".

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)

Now this is very funny coment.
Must have been Hyseni's twin brother in the same round table at UNSC.
I watched the whole UNSC session live , and Colin is talking about Google.

justthetruth

pre 14 godina

We know that tomorrow, some other country might find itself in a similar situation, and the world would rapidly discover that the rushing river let loose by Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence has become an uncontrolled cascade of secession across the globe. That is why we strongly urge all non-recognizing member states to stay the course," Tadić stated.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,really he seems like and sign like some kind Serbian Nostradamus ... People really think something like that someone will buy to my knowledge only coca cola generation

Jim

pre 14 godina

Ximi - it is all very well preaching the need for Serb-Albanian peace and love, but what is truly insulting is that this has to flow one way and not the other. There was never any desire for KAs to work within the confines of the Serbian state, and so it is a bit rich now to ask Kosovo Serbs, especially those living in the north, to play nice with Pristina.

I am sorry if you felt offended by my comments, but I am really fed up with the number of times I hear KAs calling for the north to be integrated - by force, if needs be - and yet never seem to be able to consider that their arguments smack of the very worst kind of hypocrisy. It really is astounding. You may have dressed your comments up in more moderate terms, but the lack of self-awareness is just as acute in your case as in all the other examples that we have on these forums.

If moderate KAs - yourself included - had any decency at all they would be front and centre of the debate preaching the right of the northern Sebs to go their own way, just as Serbia should allow the KAs to have their 'freedom' from Belgrade. Self-determination is surely a right shared by all. If I heard more of this, then I would be willing to take a more charitable view of your comments.

So, will you say that openly?

pss

pre 14 godina

Nice try... but in this day and age you have to realise little white lies can be found out quite quickly.
(Colin, 7 July 2010 04:23)
Maybe you should have gone to the UNSC website and viewed the webcast before writing.
Here is the link:
http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/

Not only does it have a recording of the interview of Hyseni after the session it also includes the session itself which has all the speakers including FM Hyseni.