Hague reacts to Krstić incident

Somewhat strange to send him to a prison in West Yorkshire (the UK's largest concentration of Muslims - Bradford, Leeds, Wakefield, Keighley etc). No suprise an Albanian was involved. Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list.

The British and Albanians up to their old tricks.

Right, so they put him in a prison with Muslims and Albanians, is this a joke?
As much as the west would like to be percieved (and is to a great extent) as just and honourable it is clear that when given the chance they will break rules to punish what they see as their enemies.

yep and it took 3 muslims and albanian to beat a 62 year old man that shows how tough albanians and muslims really are. what a joke.

So he was found guilty of the lesser crime of aiding and abettting genocide and sentenced to 35 years and yet Oric was set free on much more evidence of killing Serbs? Double standards and shame on the British government for letting this happen.

This man has been convicted of "aiding and abetting GENOCIDE", who cares if he's roughed up in prison!?
David Wright

You don't seem to have confidence in your own legal system? Until you introduce the death penalty Krstic should be left alone to serve his jail time. Besides, those muslims that attacked him are probably terrorists and drugsmugglers, responsible for the killing of innocent people. What gives those hypocrites the right to punish someone else for crimes they themselves are guilty off?

Really?? An albanian trying to kill a Serb, no way... I forgot he is in prison just for being Serb and protecting his people from islamic terrorist fanatics. muslim fanatics get a out of jail free card for their heinous war crimes, they even brag in public and media how they butchered Serbs, but Serbs have to be punished for being Serb. What a nice just world.

Krstic didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve to be in prison in the first place. Under most democratic Western legal systems, Krstic wouldn't have any criminal liability for what happened in Srebrenica. The fact that the Hague convicted him proves that the Hague is a Kangaroo court.

The killer part is that the Hague admits they never had the goods on him. The verdict against him literally says, "Radislav Krstic and the Drina Corps under his command did not personally commit any crimes against the Bosnian Muslim civilians" It goes on to say that, "there was no evidence that the Drina Corps devised or instigated any of the atrocities." And it says, "the Trial Chamber accepted that the transfer of the Bosnian Muslim civilians organised by the Drina Corps was a disciplined and orderly operation, and that Krstic specifically ordered that no harm was to befall the Bosnian Muslim civilians being transferred."

There is not a shred of evidence that Krstic was even aware of any crimes. The judgement against him says, "Notably, it was established that Krstic was only present in Potocari for an hour or two at the most, and there was no evidence that he actually witnessed any of the crimes being committed against the Bosnian Muslim civilians, or that his subordinates in the Drina Corps directly witnessed them and reported to Krstic."

The Hague convincted Krstic on a technicality. Their judgement says, "it was unnecessary for the Trial Chamber to conclude that Radislav Krstic was actually aware that those other criminal acts were being committed; it was sufficient that their occurrence was foreseeable to him and that those other crimes did in fact occur."

The man is being punished for criminal acts that he was unaware of that were committed by people he had no control over -- and the only reason he's guilty is because he wasn't a clairvoyant who could predict the future. No democratic legal system would convict somebody on such flimsy resoning. Krstic does not deserve to be in prison with real criminals in the first place, and he certainly does not deserve to have had his throat slashed by a bunch of angry Muslims.

The Albanian in question is Indrit Krasniqi. He was convicted along with 5 other scumbags of kidnapping two underage girls. He then raped them both, forced them to smoke heroin and crack cocaine, sexually humiliated them, before stabbing one girl to death and shooting the other in the head. See the link below....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/mar/20/ukcrime1

I think that the general's 'bus' related crimes seem somewhat modest against Mr Krasniqi.

Brave albanians and muslims trying to kill Serb while he sleeps..
Seen that before..!
Thanks to their brave efforts he`ll go home sooner..

yeah tommy, 3 scumsters on one 62year old and they lose ...

rubbish at it´s best ...

Meanwhile, Bosnian war criminals walk Sarajevo after very short sentences or deemed "not guilty" for similar crimes.

So, if our albanian posters and supporters feel that the action of those three CRIMINALS is justified, I say Fine.

In response, the Serbs should parade albanian prisoners in their custody and whip them in public by other prisoners. Just for the fun of it, we'll pass out popcorn and soda, make it a real spectacle.

I wonder what the reaction would be? Guess it's worth a try so that we can better understand where our peaceful albanian neighbors stand on this issue of prisoner abuse.

The fact that he's imprisoned in West Yorkshire is of no real significance. There are Muslims all over Europe, and we all know that. Just go to Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Spain -- anywhere.

Prison is a horrible place and inmates are regularly brutalized, particularly when they've committed certain types of crimes (such as against women and children).

The best way to avoid this fate is to avoid the cooler in the first place. Maybe Krstic shouldn't have taken part in the cold-blooded murder of thousands of unarmed Muslims in the first place.

Oh, yeah, but he was just defending his beloved Serbs.

Or what's the other one I always read?

Oh, that's right -- Srebrenica never happened.

Please! Dream on! And Serbs wonder why half the world is against them.

This man has been convicted of "aiding and abetting GENOCIDE", who cares if he's roughed up in prison!?

Typical of the usual pundits to politisize everything. What happened to Kristic is no Western conspiracy.

Oh that poor mass murderer! I just feel so bad for somebody who helped execute a genocide =(.
When will there be justice in the world? When will war criminals be able to walk free? I have a dream!

(David Wright, 11 May 2010 20:43)

Yeah I can see that the US has a lot of sympathy towards muslims; they are killing them at an alarming rate but telling them that it’s not them being targeted but the those nasty Taliban or Osama.

Now that you have “as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars”, tell us Serbs who is going to prison for the Abu Grahid prison matter – you know the prison in Iraq ran by the freedom loving democratic hugging US that broke every human rights law on this planet? No one except two or three nasty privates and corporals? Hmm now that US justice!

Confidence in what legal system? I am American and a firm believer in the death penalty when used properly. I don't have no sympathy for anyone who finds themselves in prison. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not as a vacation or timeout.

The only reason you are worked up by this story is because Krstic is a Serb. I dont care what race or religion he is. I have as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars. Noone is defending the Muslims involved in this attack either, they have obviously done horrible things in their life to be in a prison with a convicted war criminal.
(David Wright, 11 May 2010 20:43)

To remind you: there is a crime and there is a punishment for the crime. If the legal punishment is 55 years hard labor, than it's 55 years hard labor. Not 55 years of abuse. As I recalled, the legal punishment in this case was not being beaten by inmates. Such event is considered to be a major scandal and embarrassment of the legal system. Look at your comment and judge what you wrote.

BTW: may I remind you - grammatical forms like "I don't have no sympathy" are considered not very proper and usually sign of missing education. Such sentences are not to be tolerated from a native American-speaker. Sorry, that improper English did hurt my Russian ear.

Shalom!

Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list.
(Anthony Boskovic

Its nice that you made friends there.
If you feel like this than why didnt the Serb government give him also a fake passport to escape, like in NEw York?
You can talk all you want, but please dont bring the usual "victim card".
Oh the Albanians atacked him becouse he was a Serb...
That guy is in prison for warcrimes, Guess how many more Serbs are there next to him?

@David Wright,
We don't care about the American legal system. This isn't America John Wayne. Love your films by the way...
This man didn't kill anyone and didn't know of any 'killings' which took place. So how does that make him guilty Sheriff?

He received a custodial sentence not a custodial sentence with daily beatings.

Does any Albanian or their sympathiser actually not see this or are they just pretending?

So how many beatings should Albanians in prison get daily? What's that, none? Why not? Once you are in prison it's open season on you. Or is it just open season on Serbian prisoners?

@ Mikael C

Confidence in what legal system? I am American and a firm believer in the death penalty when used properly. I don't have no sympathy for anyone who finds themselves in prison. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not as a vacation or timeout.

The only reason you are worked up by this story is because Krstic is a Serb. I dont care what race or religion he is. I have as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars. Noone is defending the Muslims involved in this attack either, they have obviously done horrible things in their life to be in a prison with a convicted war criminal.

I wonder how many prisoners in prisons around the world were attacked in the last week, probably none except this western conspiracy, right?

"Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list."

This comment is very true , sure that every 50th UK prisoner is an albanian.

yep and it took 3 muslims and albanian to beat a 62 year old man that shows how tough albanians and muslims really are. what a joke.
(tommy, 11 May 2010 16:28)

This guy basically made people dig their own graves and killed them.

I see some Serbs haven't changed.

Out with the old, in with the new.

Peggy,

Krstic got what he deserved!

btw, I don't believe there are any Albanians at the Hague. That part of the story is pure propaganda. I work for a Law Firm that deals with these types of cases. I did some research and found no Albanians at the Hague prisons.
(Mark Rosen, 14 May 2010 01:41)
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Mark, if you work for a law firm then you must know that prison is the punishment and not beating you get there.

Do you also believe that prisoners should be subjected to beating there or is it just Serbian prisoners who should get beaten up?

What do you think those prisoners who beat him up were in there for? Do they deserve to be beaten up too?

Please do answer these questions especially the one where I ask do all prisoners deserve beatings while in prison or just the Serbian ones?

@David Wright,
We don't care about the American legal system. This isn't America John Wayne. Love your films by the way...
This man didn't kill anyone and didn't know of any 'killings' which took place. So how does that make him guilty Sheriff?
(care, 12 May 2010 03:01)
So they just picked innocent John Doe off the street and threw him in prison, get real!

Peggy,

Krstic got what he deserved!

btw, I don't believe there are any Albanians at the Hague. That part of the story is pure propaganda. I work for a Law Firm that deals with these types of cases. I did some research and found no Albanians at the Hague prisons.

This man has been convicted of "aiding and abetting GENOCIDE", who cares if he's roughed up in prison!?

Oh that poor mass murderer! I just feel so bad for somebody who helped execute a genocide =(.
When will there be justice in the world? When will war criminals be able to walk free? I have a dream!

Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list.
(Anthony Boskovic

Its nice that you made friends there.
If you feel like this than why didnt the Serb government give him also a fake passport to escape, like in NEw York?
You can talk all you want, but please dont bring the usual "victim card".
Oh the Albanians atacked him becouse he was a Serb...
That guy is in prison for warcrimes, Guess how many more Serbs are there next to him?

@ Mikael C

Confidence in what legal system? I am American and a firm believer in the death penalty when used properly. I don't have no sympathy for anyone who finds themselves in prison. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not as a vacation or timeout.

The only reason you are worked up by this story is because Krstic is a Serb. I dont care what race or religion he is. I have as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars. Noone is defending the Muslims involved in this attack either, they have obviously done horrible things in their life to be in a prison with a convicted war criminal.

The fact that he's imprisoned in West Yorkshire is of no real significance. There are Muslims all over Europe, and we all know that. Just go to Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Spain -- anywhere.

Prison is a horrible place and inmates are regularly brutalized, particularly when they've committed certain types of crimes (such as against women and children).

The best way to avoid this fate is to avoid the cooler in the first place. Maybe Krstic shouldn't have taken part in the cold-blooded murder of thousands of unarmed Muslims in the first place.

Oh, yeah, but he was just defending his beloved Serbs.

Or what's the other one I always read?

Oh, that's right -- Srebrenica never happened.

Please! Dream on! And Serbs wonder why half the world is against them.

The British and Albanians up to their old tricks.

Right, so they put him in a prison with Muslims and Albanians, is this a joke?
As much as the west would like to be percieved (and is to a great extent) as just and honourable it is clear that when given the chance they will break rules to punish what they see as their enemies.

Somewhat strange to send him to a prison in West Yorkshire (the UK's largest concentration of Muslims - Bradford, Leeds, Wakefield, Keighley etc). No suprise an Albanian was involved. Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list.

I wonder how many prisoners in prisons around the world were attacked in the last week, probably none except this western conspiracy, right?

So, if our albanian posters and supporters feel that the action of those three CRIMINALS is justified, I say Fine.

In response, the Serbs should parade albanian prisoners in their custody and whip them in public by other prisoners. Just for the fun of it, we'll pass out popcorn and soda, make it a real spectacle.

I wonder what the reaction would be? Guess it's worth a try so that we can better understand where our peaceful albanian neighbors stand on this issue of prisoner abuse.

Really?? An albanian trying to kill a Serb, no way... I forgot he is in prison just for being Serb and protecting his people from islamic terrorist fanatics. muslim fanatics get a out of jail free card for their heinous war crimes, they even brag in public and media how they butchered Serbs, but Serbs have to be punished for being Serb. What a nice just world.

Typical of the usual pundits to politisize everything. What happened to Kristic is no Western conspiracy.

So he was found guilty of the lesser crime of aiding and abettting genocide and sentenced to 35 years and yet Oric was set free on much more evidence of killing Serbs? Double standards and shame on the British government for letting this happen.

The Albanian in question is Indrit Krasniqi. He was convicted along with 5 other scumbags of kidnapping two underage girls. He then raped them both, forced them to smoke heroin and crack cocaine, sexually humiliated them, before stabbing one girl to death and shooting the other in the head. See the link below....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/mar/20/ukcrime1

I think that the general's 'bus' related crimes seem somewhat modest against Mr Krasniqi.

Brave albanians and muslims trying to kill Serb while he sleeps..
Seen that before..!
Thanks to their brave efforts he`ll go home sooner..

yep and it took 3 muslims and albanian to beat a 62 year old man that shows how tough albanians and muslims really are. what a joke.

yep and it took 3 muslims and albanian to beat a 62 year old man that shows how tough albanians and muslims really are. what a joke.
(tommy, 11 May 2010 16:28)

This guy basically made people dig their own graves and killed them.

I see some Serbs haven't changed.

Out with the old, in with the new.

This man has been convicted of "aiding and abetting GENOCIDE", who cares if he's roughed up in prison!?
David Wright

You don't seem to have confidence in your own legal system? Until you introduce the death penalty Krstic should be left alone to serve his jail time. Besides, those muslims that attacked him are probably terrorists and drugsmugglers, responsible for the killing of innocent people. What gives those hypocrites the right to punish someone else for crimes they themselves are guilty off?

yeah tommy, 3 scumsters on one 62year old and they lose ...

rubbish at it´s best ...

@David Wright,
We don't care about the American legal system. This isn't America John Wayne. Love your films by the way...
This man didn't kill anyone and didn't know of any 'killings' which took place. So how does that make him guilty Sheriff?
(care, 12 May 2010 03:01)
So they just picked innocent John Doe off the street and threw him in prison, get real!

Meanwhile, Bosnian war criminals walk Sarajevo after very short sentences or deemed "not guilty" for similar crimes.

Krstic didn't do anything wrong. He doesn't deserve to be in prison in the first place. Under most democratic Western legal systems, Krstic wouldn't have any criminal liability for what happened in Srebrenica. The fact that the Hague convicted him proves that the Hague is a Kangaroo court.

The killer part is that the Hague admits they never had the goods on him. The verdict against him literally says, "Radislav Krstic and the Drina Corps under his command did not personally commit any crimes against the Bosnian Muslim civilians" It goes on to say that, "there was no evidence that the Drina Corps devised or instigated any of the atrocities." And it says, "the Trial Chamber accepted that the transfer of the Bosnian Muslim civilians organised by the Drina Corps was a disciplined and orderly operation, and that Krstic specifically ordered that no harm was to befall the Bosnian Muslim civilians being transferred."

There is not a shred of evidence that Krstic was even aware of any crimes. The judgement against him says, "Notably, it was established that Krstic was only present in Potocari for an hour or two at the most, and there was no evidence that he actually witnessed any of the crimes being committed against the Bosnian Muslim civilians, or that his subordinates in the Drina Corps directly witnessed them and reported to Krstic."

The Hague convincted Krstic on a technicality. Their judgement says, "it was unnecessary for the Trial Chamber to conclude that Radislav Krstic was actually aware that those other criminal acts were being committed; it was sufficient that their occurrence was foreseeable to him and that those other crimes did in fact occur."

The man is being punished for criminal acts that he was unaware of that were committed by people he had no control over -- and the only reason he's guilty is because he wasn't a clairvoyant who could predict the future. No democratic legal system would convict somebody on such flimsy resoning. Krstic does not deserve to be in prison with real criminals in the first place, and he certainly does not deserve to have had his throat slashed by a bunch of angry Muslims.

@David Wright,
We don't care about the American legal system. This isn't America John Wayne. Love your films by the way...
This man didn't kill anyone and didn't know of any 'killings' which took place. So how does that make him guilty Sheriff?

Confidence in what legal system? I am American and a firm believer in the death penalty when used properly. I don't have no sympathy for anyone who finds themselves in prison. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not as a vacation or timeout.

The only reason you are worked up by this story is because Krstic is a Serb. I dont care what race or religion he is. I have as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars. Noone is defending the Muslims involved in this attack either, they have obviously done horrible things in their life to be in a prison with a convicted war criminal.
(David Wright, 11 May 2010 20:43)

To remind you: there is a crime and there is a punishment for the crime. If the legal punishment is 55 years hard labor, than it's 55 years hard labor. Not 55 years of abuse. As I recalled, the legal punishment in this case was not being beaten by inmates. Such event is considered to be a major scandal and embarrassment of the legal system. Look at your comment and judge what you wrote.

BTW: may I remind you - grammatical forms like "I don't have no sympathy" are considered not very proper and usually sign of missing education. Such sentences are not to be tolerated from a native American-speaker. Sorry, that improper English did hurt my Russian ear.

Shalom!

Peggy,

Krstic got what he deserved!

btw, I don't believe there are any Albanians at the Hague. That part of the story is pure propaganda. I work for a Law Firm that deals with these types of cases. I did some research and found no Albanians at the Hague prisons.

"Every UK prison has a growing Albanian 'guest' list."

This comment is very true , sure that every 50th UK prisoner is an albanian.

Peggy,

Krstic got what he deserved!

btw, I don't believe there are any Albanians at the Hague. That part of the story is pure propaganda. I work for a Law Firm that deals with these types of cases. I did some research and found no Albanians at the Hague prisons.
(Mark Rosen, 14 May 2010 01:41)
=====================
Mark, if you work for a law firm then you must know that prison is the punishment and not beating you get there.

Do you also believe that prisoners should be subjected to beating there or is it just Serbian prisoners who should get beaten up?

What do you think those prisoners who beat him up were in there for? Do they deserve to be beaten up too?

Please do answer these questions especially the one where I ask do all prisoners deserve beatings while in prison or just the Serbian ones?

(David Wright, 11 May 2010 20:43)

Yeah I can see that the US has a lot of sympathy towards muslims; they are killing them at an alarming rate but telling them that it’s not them being targeted but the those nasty Taliban or Osama.

Now that you have “as much sympathy for Krstic as I would a child molestor or rapist who gets slapped around while behind bars”, tell us Serbs who is going to prison for the Abu Grahid prison matter – you know the prison in Iraq ran by the freedom loving democratic hugging US that broke every human rights law on this planet? No one except two or three nasty privates and corporals? Hmm now that US justice!

He received a custodial sentence not a custodial sentence with daily beatings.

Does any Albanian or their sympathiser actually not see this or are they just pretending?

So how many beatings should Albanians in prison get daily? What's that, none? Why not? Once you are in prison it's open season on you. Or is it just open season on Serbian prisoners?