Minister dismisses ISG conclusions, criticizes Feith

"The plan for Kosovo's supervised independence was never approved by the UN and is rejected by both Serbia and Russia."

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.

If there is ever a plan to reintegrate Kosovo into Serbia, I hope our ethnic Albanian citizens are just as accepting towards it as this plan to integrate the North.

Better to sit down and negotiate a peaceful and prosperous future for all I think.

Oli was better of as an MP in Kosova/o Parlament. As Secretary of phantom Ministry , he has no chance in hell to put his behind in chair inside Serbian Parlament, or for that matter he will never get the floor to address the said parlament.

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.
(troika melb, 9 February 2010 10:14)

Troika - refused so called "Ahtissaari Plan" - is nothing more as piece of paper, becouse it wasn't accepted by all sides.

Bogdanović evaluated that Feith's double function, that of the ICO head, and special representative of the European Union in Kosovo, "is the main obstacle for the cooperation in the field".
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Absolutely, there is a conflict of interest in this double role - which I can only assume was engineered that way.

You Bogdanović and Tadić are going to have to do a lot more than just talk. We want concrete actions to strengthen our intitutions and to ensure they never integrate the north into parallel institutions in Pristina.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.

Serbian politicians dismiss anything that is not in their line.

Rest assure that the World only hears to what Serbia says but it doesn't listen. The more you continue with this mentality the World will IGNORE YOU completely which is a step to final ISOLATION which would lead to further inevitable disintegration.

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.
(troika melb, 9 February 2010 10:14)

neither albanians nor americans have contributed anything to the welfare of Kosmet except bombs,depleted uranium,death,al qaeda,kla terrorists etc.God bless Kosmet.

The reality on the ground is that there is a great divide between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo. This divided must be closed. The only way to close it is to find a mutually acceptable solution. Some people cannot get this through their thick skulls. The divide isn't going away. Kosovo's ethnic Albanians declared independence nearly two years ago and the gap is as real today as it was then. The strategy to sit on one's behinds and wait for Serb resolve to decline has failed. Serbs will not stop insisting on a negotiated solution. So long as they don't recognitions, if they come, will trickle in at a snail's pace. Anything less than full recognition, particularly recognition by Serbia, is inadequate to pretend Kosovo is a true independent country. So, the solution is to go back to the negotiating table. Who knows what the outcome will be, but anything is better than the mess we have now.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.
(Zoran, 9 February 2010 13:05)

Zoran I am all for negotiations but for some reason I have a hard time trusting Serbia will ever be "peaceful" towards Albanians.

Also it seem like there's plenty of news re: Kosova that B92 is not posting especially comments by a certain Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut. What is going on guys falling asleep at your desks?

It really is beginning to seem that this plan was deliberately designed to widen the gap between Serbs and Albanians to the point that Belgrade is almost forced to intervene to stop plans to "integrate" the north. I could be completely optimistic, but perhaps this is hoped to send an indirect message back to Pristina that all their hopes of grabbing areas they don't control will be met with stiff resistance. Perhaps Belgrade will also call for a compromise in which is formally writes off the Albanian parts of Kosovo in exchange for retaining formal control of the Serbian parts. Other than that, I fail to see how any activity in "integrating" the Serbian enclaves is any different than Milosevic's efforts at "integrating" Kosovo in 1999. It's also interesting how the most viscerally anti-Serb Albanians on this site are the most in favor of this ridiculous Anschluss, while the more moderate Albanians who probably couldn't care less about the Serb enclaves have remained noticeably silent.

Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut.
(Zoti, 9 February 2010 15:57)
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Umm, can you point to a source? The only one I found is the West giving Jeremic orders as their Kosovo policy is failing. Check http://waz.euobserver.com/887/29432

Feith is dangerous to the stability of Kosovo. He, like Ahtissari, are paid by the Albanian lobby to push independence for them at all costs. It will not happen - especially in the North where it is totally against the will of the people. It would be better for Pristina to create some jobs for unemployed Albanians, than to worry about grabbing more land - and unemploying even more people.

As ever, Mike hits the nail right on the head. I am also amazed at the way in which more militant KAs here insist on forcible integration of the North and yet scream that Kosovo can never be integrated back into Serbia. By the way, from what I am hearing there are thoughts in certain international quarters that the ICJ case might well go Serbia's way. If so, I think it is almost certain that new talks will take place, and sooner rather than later. Let's see.

To words: "By out!"
The puny "Ministry of Kosovo" exists only to sooth the radical feelings among Serbs. Every time a concession is made by Serb government to EU, these two people open the mouth.
(miri, 9 February 2010 18:05)

The “puny” State of Kosova only exists for Camp Bondsteel. “The plan for Kosovo's supervised independence was never approved by the UN and is rejected by both Serbia and Russia”. Hope you got the message.


Also it seem like there's plenty of news re: Kosova that B92 is not posting especially comments by a certain Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut. What is going on guys falling asleep at your desks?
(Zoti, 9 February 2010 15:57)

Oh! I know what you’re talking about; yes the fact that Jeremic was making statements that were sounding to offer a compromise. The Russians are not going to allow any compromises here because Serbia would slip out of its influence. They have stopped NATO expansion in the east – Georgia and Ukraine. Now it’s Serbia to the rescue – NO Serbia = NATO expansion dead in its tracks.

As far as negotiations are concerned, you guys are really behind the eight ball. Serbia is not interested in negotiating with the Albanians, it’s much like the Israel and Palestine where they talk about talking but nothing ever happens. You guys are in for a shock of your lives very soon. The EU is now in deep financial …. And the money is running out – you’ll b

Sirs
Can somebody explain that:
24 Countries accept north integration plan into Kosovo Government in which group of countries mostly are European and Nato members but Serbia says no we don't recognise this international group and on other side Serbia want to be part of EU and NATO.
Is it logical or not.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.
(Zoran, 9 February 2010 13:05)


So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????

Interesting how the tables have turned. Just a few years back it was Albanians who demanded the start of negotiations. Serbs were very dismissive and avoided direct talks at any cost.

What are Serbs asking for now?

"What are Serbs asking for now?" (Ptoleme)

-- The same thing Albanians were given but refuse to grant.

So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????
(Hans, 9 February 2010 20:18)
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Because UNSCR1244 confirms Serbia's sovereignty. It is still in force while KiM is under temporary administration by the UN.

Jim, I read an article yesterday that the US, UK, France, Germany and Italy have asked Jeremic to keep quiet as his lobbying and ICJ case seem to be far more successful than they expected. Lets see if the DS tow the line or protect the interests of Serbia.

(Daniel, 9 February 2010 14:16)

One good Point you make that both Sides are stuck in their positions.

Negotiations is not a solution in regards to all Kosovo I would say Negotiation regarding North Mitrovica and Gracanica yes.

K-Albanians will not go to negotiations for Kosovo as much as Serbia wants it.

But as it looks West does not want either so why bother Albanians Have more than they would get from being part of Serbia so they wont budge.

50% unemployment still better than what it was living in fear of Serbian Police.

This is the point Albanians are willing to suffer and not go under Serbia.

Its hard to explain the feeling you get when we think of the days till 1999, regardless of the war it was just very tough life even if some here do not accept it as true.

"Other than that, I fail to see how any activity in "integrating" the Serbian enclaves is any different than Milosevic's efforts at "integrating" Kosovo in 1999"

To words: "By out!"
The puny "Ministry of Kosovo" exists only to sooth the radical feelings among Serbs. Every time a concession is made by Serb government to EU, these two people open the mouth.

Well simply said: Eulex was never supposed to be allowed at Kosovo.

It may get to late now. Tadic decision to allow this Eulex nonsense was catastrophic political mistake whose consequences are being paid now.

Mr. Pieter Feith has fallen between 2 stools.
One stool is the International Civilian Office (ICO).
The other stool is the office of the European Union Special Representative (EUSR).
Both stools should be flushed immediately as they pose a serious health hazard.

MB,Ireland

So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????
(Hans, 9 February 2010 20:18)

When you had east and west Gernmany, the western part always claimed East Germany even though it was separate, that’s how! However, this is a moot point – what’s most important is that Serbia will never allow any investment in Kosovo and after 11 years of so called independence it suffers from staggering unemployment in the order of 70% per year.
When Serbia can do this to Kosovo then you know who owns it. Let the west pay for this bottomless pit and when they go broke Serbia will just walk in and take over. Same as its doing in Bosnia. Remember the old saying that revenge is a dish best served cold and by God these two places are freezing.

What are Serbs asking for now?
(Ptoleme, 9 February 2010 22:42)

I don’t know for sure but if it was me I’d call for negotiations with the aim of never having them but look good in the eyes of the world. Why negotiate when Kosovo is going nowhere quickly; it’s going to sit there not moving one micro millimeter forward without Belgrade’s agreement year in year out.

offcourse Peter Faith is the bad guy! he doesn't support the serb dream now does he!

Because UNSCR1244 confirms Serbia's sovereignty. .
(Zoran, 10 February 2010 09:05)

can you please elaborate how did you reach to this interpretation of 1244 ? thank you

If there is ever a plan to reintegrate Kosovo into Serbia, I hope our ethnic Albanian citizens are just as accepting towards it as this plan to integrate the North.

Better to sit down and negotiate a peaceful and prosperous future for all I think.

"The plan for Kosovo's supervised independence was never approved by the UN and is rejected by both Serbia and Russia."

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.

Oli was better of as an MP in Kosova/o Parlament. As Secretary of phantom Ministry , he has no chance in hell to put his behind in chair inside Serbian Parlament, or for that matter he will never get the floor to address the said parlament.

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.
(troika melb, 9 February 2010 10:14)

Troika - refused so called "Ahtissaari Plan" - is nothing more as piece of paper, becouse it wasn't accepted by all sides.

Bogdanović evaluated that Feith's double function, that of the ICO head, and special representative of the European Union in Kosovo, "is the main obstacle for the cooperation in the field".
--
Absolutely, there is a conflict of interest in this double role - which I can only assume was engineered that way.

You Bogdanović and Tadić are going to have to do a lot more than just talk. We want concrete actions to strengthen our intitutions and to ensure they never integrate the north into parallel institutions in Pristina.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.

The reality on the ground is that there is a great divide between Serbs and Albanians in Kosovo. This divided must be closed. The only way to close it is to find a mutually acceptable solution. Some people cannot get this through their thick skulls. The divide isn't going away. Kosovo's ethnic Albanians declared independence nearly two years ago and the gap is as real today as it was then. The strategy to sit on one's behinds and wait for Serb resolve to decline has failed. Serbs will not stop insisting on a negotiated solution. So long as they don't recognitions, if they come, will trickle in at a snail's pace. Anything less than full recognition, particularly recognition by Serbia, is inadequate to pretend Kosovo is a true independent country. So, the solution is to go back to the negotiating table. Who knows what the outcome will be, but anything is better than the mess we have now.

It really is beginning to seem that this plan was deliberately designed to widen the gap between Serbs and Albanians to the point that Belgrade is almost forced to intervene to stop plans to "integrate" the north. I could be completely optimistic, but perhaps this is hoped to send an indirect message back to Pristina that all their hopes of grabbing areas they don't control will be met with stiff resistance. Perhaps Belgrade will also call for a compromise in which is formally writes off the Albanian parts of Kosovo in exchange for retaining formal control of the Serbian parts. Other than that, I fail to see how any activity in "integrating" the Serbian enclaves is any different than Milosevic's efforts at "integrating" Kosovo in 1999. It's also interesting how the most viscerally anti-Serb Albanians on this site are the most in favor of this ridiculous Anschluss, while the more moderate Albanians who probably couldn't care less about the Serb enclaves have remained noticeably silent.

Interesting how the tables have turned. Just a few years back it was Albanians who demanded the start of negotiations. Serbs were very dismissive and avoided direct talks at any cost.

What are Serbs asking for now?

Serbian politicians dismiss anything that is not in their line.

Rest assure that the World only hears to what Serbia says but it doesn't listen. The more you continue with this mentality the World will IGNORE YOU completely which is a step to final ISOLATION which would lead to further inevitable disintegration.

(Daniel, 9 February 2010 14:16)

One good Point you make that both Sides are stuck in their positions.

Negotiations is not a solution in regards to all Kosovo I would say Negotiation regarding North Mitrovica and Gracanica yes.

K-Albanians will not go to negotiations for Kosovo as much as Serbia wants it.

But as it looks West does not want either so why bother Albanians Have more than they would get from being part of Serbia so they wont budge.

50% unemployment still better than what it was living in fear of Serbian Police.

This is the point Albanians are willing to suffer and not go under Serbia.

Its hard to explain the feeling you get when we think of the days till 1999, regardless of the war it was just very tough life even if some here do not accept it as true.

Feith is dangerous to the stability of Kosovo. He, like Ahtissari, are paid by the Albanian lobby to push independence for them at all costs. It will not happen - especially in the North where it is totally against the will of the people. It would be better for Pristina to create some jobs for unemployed Albanians, than to worry about grabbing more land - and unemploying even more people.

Neither Serbia or Russia has ever contributed to the wellfare of Kosovo,other than "scorpions" and mercenerys, who cares what they think, Kosovo is in a European family and Russia should mind its own afairs.
Kosovo has already compromised with the A plan. Serbs are still were they left of in 99. Good luck i guess to both sides.
(troika melb, 9 February 2010 10:14)

neither albanians nor americans have contributed anything to the welfare of Kosmet except bombs,depleted uranium,death,al qaeda,kla terrorists etc.God bless Kosmet.

Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut.
(Zoti, 9 February 2010 15:57)
--
Umm, can you point to a source? The only one I found is the West giving Jeremic orders as their Kosovo policy is failing. Check http://waz.euobserver.com/887/29432

"Other than that, I fail to see how any activity in "integrating" the Serbian enclaves is any different than Milosevic's efforts at "integrating" Kosovo in 1999"

To words: "By out!"
The puny "Ministry of Kosovo" exists only to sooth the radical feelings among Serbs. Every time a concession is made by Serb government to EU, these two people open the mouth.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.
(Zoran, 9 February 2010 13:05)


So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????

As ever, Mike hits the nail right on the head. I am also amazed at the way in which more militant KAs here insist on forcible integration of the North and yet scream that Kosovo can never be integrated back into Serbia. By the way, from what I am hearing there are thoughts in certain international quarters that the ICJ case might well go Serbia's way. If so, I think it is almost certain that new talks will take place, and sooner rather than later. Let's see.

It's quite simple, if they fail to control the north then Pristina does not control the provincial borders or the entire territory and as such, you cannot claim to be independent. It's as simple as that my friends - the time for negotiations and a peaceful agreement for all is approaching.
(Zoran, 9 February 2010 13:05)

Zoran I am all for negotiations but for some reason I have a hard time trusting Serbia will ever be "peaceful" towards Albanians.

Also it seem like there's plenty of news re: Kosova that B92 is not posting especially comments by a certain Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut. What is going on guys falling asleep at your desks?

Well simply said: Eulex was never supposed to be allowed at Kosovo.

It may get to late now. Tadic decision to allow this Eulex nonsense was catastrophic political mistake whose consequences are being paid now.

Sirs
Can somebody explain that:
24 Countries accept north integration plan into Kosovo Government in which group of countries mostly are European and Nato members but Serbia says no we don't recognise this international group and on other side Serbia want to be part of EU and NATO.
Is it logical or not.

offcourse Peter Faith is the bad guy! he doesn't support the serb dream now does he!

To words: "By out!"
The puny "Ministry of Kosovo" exists only to sooth the radical feelings among Serbs. Every time a concession is made by Serb government to EU, these two people open the mouth.
(miri, 9 February 2010 18:05)

The “puny” State of Kosova only exists for Camp Bondsteel. “The plan for Kosovo's supervised independence was never approved by the UN and is rejected by both Serbia and Russia”. Hope you got the message.


Also it seem like there's plenty of news re: Kosova that B92 is not posting especially comments by a certain Russian politician and orders given to Jeremic to keep his mouth shut. What is going on guys falling asleep at your desks?
(Zoti, 9 February 2010 15:57)

Oh! I know what you’re talking about; yes the fact that Jeremic was making statements that were sounding to offer a compromise. The Russians are not going to allow any compromises here because Serbia would slip out of its influence. They have stopped NATO expansion in the east – Georgia and Ukraine. Now it’s Serbia to the rescue – NO Serbia = NATO expansion dead in its tracks.

As far as negotiations are concerned, you guys are really behind the eight ball. Serbia is not interested in negotiating with the Albanians, it’s much like the Israel and Palestine where they talk about talking but nothing ever happens. You guys are in for a shock of your lives very soon. The EU is now in deep financial …. And the money is running out – you’ll b

"What are Serbs asking for now?" (Ptoleme)

-- The same thing Albanians were given but refuse to grant.

Mr. Pieter Feith has fallen between 2 stools.
One stool is the International Civilian Office (ICO).
The other stool is the office of the European Union Special Representative (EUSR).
Both stools should be flushed immediately as they pose a serious health hazard.

MB,Ireland

So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????
(Hans, 9 February 2010 20:18)
--
Because UNSCR1244 confirms Serbia's sovereignty. It is still in force while KiM is under temporary administration by the UN.

Jim, I read an article yesterday that the US, UK, France, Germany and Italy have asked Jeremic to keep quiet as his lobbying and ICJ case seem to be far more successful than they expected. Lets see if the DS tow the line or protect the interests of Serbia.

So, according to your logic, could you explain me how Serbia can claim to be a State since it has no control on 90% of its "southern province" and 90% of the people down there ????
(Hans, 9 February 2010 20:18)

When you had east and west Gernmany, the western part always claimed East Germany even though it was separate, that’s how! However, this is a moot point – what’s most important is that Serbia will never allow any investment in Kosovo and after 11 years of so called independence it suffers from staggering unemployment in the order of 70% per year.
When Serbia can do this to Kosovo then you know who owns it. Let the west pay for this bottomless pit and when they go broke Serbia will just walk in and take over. Same as its doing in Bosnia. Remember the old saying that revenge is a dish best served cold and by God these two places are freezing.

What are Serbs asking for now?
(Ptoleme, 9 February 2010 22:42)

I don’t know for sure but if it was me I’d call for negotiations with the aim of never having them but look good in the eyes of the world. Why negotiate when Kosovo is going nowhere quickly; it’s going to sit there not moving one micro millimeter forward without Belgrade’s agreement year in year out.

Because UNSCR1244 confirms Serbia's sovereignty. .
(Zoran, 10 February 2010 09:05)

can you please elaborate how did you reach to this interpretation of 1244 ? thank you