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Tuesday, 08.12.2009.

11:12

Feith announces privatization of ski center

EU special representative in Kosovo Pieter Feith says the Inex ski center on Mt. Brezovica in Štrpce will be privatized.

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Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands.

You mean it is about changing ownership? About change?

Change can hardly be considered conservative. Conservation is about preservation. Keeping things the way they are. Putting an enterprise into new hands is a change. It can not be a conservative thing.

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

NewSpeak anyone?

Liberal comes from the Latin word Liber, meaning Free.

Free to do as you like.
Free to own.
Free to create to your own enterprise.
Free to earn a lot of money from that enterprise.
Free from government control.
Free from YOU telling ME what to do.

At the extreme end of that liberal liberalism with all its liberties, you end up with anarchism, where YOU don't care what OTHER thinks.

Now how Mike made the associateion from Liberal to Left Wing to Communist is beyond me.

Communism is about:

The state, the county, the local commune, telling me what I can (not) do.
What I can (not) own.
Which private enterprise I can (not) engage in.
How much money I can (not) make.
Communism is about a sovjet (from Russian, "sovyet" meaning council) running the local factory instead of the original owner.
--

DimTuc

pre 14 godina

Matthew:
"Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR"

Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands. But they use the term "neo-liberal" to describe an extreme form of "economic liberalism", whereby economics is "free", ie, for those who have the money and power, to lord it over everyone else. Blasphemous use of the term, perhaps, but we've got it.

Where I disagree with Niall on this is his seeming belief that in Serbia privatisation/theft only began after Milosevic, or perhaps only exists in non-Serb parts of ex-Yugo, or something. But if you want to see theft on a massive scale of public assets flowing into private hands )and on to Cypriot banks or wherever) while the population was being pauperised, well it began in Yugo in the 1980s and reached its zenith under the corrupt/crony privatisation and half-privatisation and under the table privatisaiton (as well as the legal type, eg telecom) under Milosevic (and under Tudjman in Croatia). It was only clarified in those two states after these guys were swept away.

BKK

pre 14 godina

So what Albanians should not be able to go to Serbian Areas.

Only Serbs have this strange ideas its serbian population there u cant go.

If Albanians buy it let them hire who they like,

lets say Trepca is bought by French does this mean only Serbs should work in Trepca please.

we dont say anything when you sell stuff to whome you like Russians Chinese Italians.

Is this what Autonomy really have been.

Sooner or later will go to Mitrovica as well no worry the plans are being put most of north will be repopulated no worry.

Mister

pre 14 godina

It would be a good gesture to give the ownership and the running of the centre to the locals and enthusiasts. I doubt that though.

Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

It is quite usual that mountain cmmunities keep control over their own ski centers.

What Feith is doing is just creating the pretext for ethnic cleansing by economic exclusion. You can wait for the next step: "our customers are mostly Albanians who prefer to be served by Albanians". Bye bye, Serb employment. So much for self-determination for Serbs.

http://outsidewalls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kosovo-what-happens-to-strpce.html

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Niall, Vladimir & Dim Tuc,

Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR.

Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

What happened, I thought us liberal folks were all commies in disguise?

Mike

pre 14 godina

"“The privatization will be done in a transparent way, in cooperation between the EU, Belgrade and Priština, because regional cooperation is an important condition for the Union,” said Feith."

-- When was the last time any sort of cooperation took place when all three of the above-mentioned parties were at the same table? Best to leave this matter with EULEX and Belgrade. As Strpce is a Serbian municipality, Pristina has, or should have, no say over it.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 14 godina

Thief´s who have stolen something always try to get rid of the goods as quickly as possible - no doubt this needs to be done before ICJ judgement!

One can only wonder why the haste by this Feith?

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.
(Kosova-USA, 8 December 2009 12:57)

If Feith and the EUrocrats attempt to get their grubby capitalist neo-liberal hands on the complex, Inex, the State company will take them to court and sue them since it owns the complex and has the deeds to prove it. You cannot take something that you do not own. It would be like me coming along and taking your house. Its called theft and its wrong.

This episode sums up the real intention of the Imperialists to dismember Yugoslavia. To dismantle socialism and impose their crooked neo liberal agenda (mass privitisations and poverty) on the Balkans. Brezovica should remain in the hands of the Serbian people - public ownership. No to privatisation.

Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

Regardless of the issue of whether creating jobs requires privatisation - sounds like some hackneyed old neo-liberal phrase from what should by now be considered a bad piece of recent history, but hey, maybe the state is just too broke to invest, I dunno.

And regardless of what one may think of the claim that it belongs not to the state but to a "limited" or "holding" company or something, which basically means the Serbian state has already crony privatised it and handed it to cronies in the time honoured east European pattern of the last 20 years, perfected by Milosevic, via which billions were ripped out of citizens hands to end up in a few pockets ... somewhere.

Regardless of all the above. Let's say for argument's sake it is Kosova property, and it will be privatised because the state has no cash to invest.

OK. But are not Kosovar Albanians a little embarassed that the announcement of the privatisation of their assets is made by ... Feith, rather than by their government?

Uranik

pre 14 godina

And who will buy it, internationally established ski operators with the capacity to invest in and develop the resort, or members of our government. Sadly, I think we all know the answer to that.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Serb residents do not agree with the quick privatization plans, and state that the resort belongs to the Belgrade-based company Inex.


Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.

miles

pre 14 godina

Is Feith, the friendly face of corruption? Actually his face doesn't look that friendly.

Belgrade should hand over ownership to local Serbian residents who could then accept funding from Belgrade and the EU without having to deal with the crooks in Prishtina.

The local residents could form an elected board employing local people. Distributing profits to every employee.

In England we have a retail company called 'John Lewis' that works on this principle. It is more successful than any other retail company on the High Street in the UK.

Unfortunately I think this is just another way of stealing EU money by Thaci and his buddies. Hand the business over to a friend of the Snake, do nothing, pay peanuts, and steal the cash.

miles

pre 14 godina

Is Feith, the friendly face of corruption? Actually his face doesn't look that friendly.

Belgrade should hand over ownership to local Serbian residents who could then accept funding from Belgrade and the EU without having to deal with the crooks in Prishtina.

The local residents could form an elected board employing local people. Distributing profits to every employee.

In England we have a retail company called 'John Lewis' that works on this principle. It is more successful than any other retail company on the High Street in the UK.

Unfortunately I think this is just another way of stealing EU money by Thaci and his buddies. Hand the business over to a friend of the Snake, do nothing, pay peanuts, and steal the cash.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.
(Kosova-USA, 8 December 2009 12:57)

If Feith and the EUrocrats attempt to get their grubby capitalist neo-liberal hands on the complex, Inex, the State company will take them to court and sue them since it owns the complex and has the deeds to prove it. You cannot take something that you do not own. It would be like me coming along and taking your house. Its called theft and its wrong.

This episode sums up the real intention of the Imperialists to dismember Yugoslavia. To dismantle socialism and impose their crooked neo liberal agenda (mass privitisations and poverty) on the Balkans. Brezovica should remain in the hands of the Serbian people - public ownership. No to privatisation.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"“The privatization will be done in a transparent way, in cooperation between the EU, Belgrade and Priština, because regional cooperation is an important condition for the Union,” said Feith."

-- When was the last time any sort of cooperation took place when all three of the above-mentioned parties were at the same table? Best to leave this matter with EULEX and Belgrade. As Strpce is a Serbian municipality, Pristina has, or should have, no say over it.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 14 godina

Thief´s who have stolen something always try to get rid of the goods as quickly as possible - no doubt this needs to be done before ICJ judgement!

One can only wonder why the haste by this Feith?

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Serb residents do not agree with the quick privatization plans, and state that the resort belongs to the Belgrade-based company Inex.


Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.

Uranik

pre 14 godina

And who will buy it, internationally established ski operators with the capacity to invest in and develop the resort, or members of our government. Sadly, I think we all know the answer to that.

Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

It is quite usual that mountain cmmunities keep control over their own ski centers.

What Feith is doing is just creating the pretext for ethnic cleansing by economic exclusion. You can wait for the next step: "our customers are mostly Albanians who prefer to be served by Albanians". Bye bye, Serb employment. So much for self-determination for Serbs.

http://outsidewalls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kosovo-what-happens-to-strpce.html

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Niall, Vladimir & Dim Tuc,

Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR.

Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

What happened, I thought us liberal folks were all commies in disguise?

Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

Regardless of the issue of whether creating jobs requires privatisation - sounds like some hackneyed old neo-liberal phrase from what should by now be considered a bad piece of recent history, but hey, maybe the state is just too broke to invest, I dunno.

And regardless of what one may think of the claim that it belongs not to the state but to a "limited" or "holding" company or something, which basically means the Serbian state has already crony privatised it and handed it to cronies in the time honoured east European pattern of the last 20 years, perfected by Milosevic, via which billions were ripped out of citizens hands to end up in a few pockets ... somewhere.

Regardless of all the above. Let's say for argument's sake it is Kosova property, and it will be privatised because the state has no cash to invest.

OK. But are not Kosovar Albanians a little embarassed that the announcement of the privatisation of their assets is made by ... Feith, rather than by their government?

DimTuc

pre 14 godina

Matthew:
"Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR"

Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands. But they use the term "neo-liberal" to describe an extreme form of "economic liberalism", whereby economics is "free", ie, for those who have the money and power, to lord it over everyone else. Blasphemous use of the term, perhaps, but we've got it.

Where I disagree with Niall on this is his seeming belief that in Serbia privatisation/theft only began after Milosevic, or perhaps only exists in non-Serb parts of ex-Yugo, or something. But if you want to see theft on a massive scale of public assets flowing into private hands )and on to Cypriot banks or wherever) while the population was being pauperised, well it began in Yugo in the 1980s and reached its zenith under the corrupt/crony privatisation and half-privatisation and under the table privatisaiton (as well as the legal type, eg telecom) under Milosevic (and under Tudjman in Croatia). It was only clarified in those two states after these guys were swept away.

BKK

pre 14 godina

So what Albanians should not be able to go to Serbian Areas.

Only Serbs have this strange ideas its serbian population there u cant go.

If Albanians buy it let them hire who they like,

lets say Trepca is bought by French does this mean only Serbs should work in Trepca please.

we dont say anything when you sell stuff to whome you like Russians Chinese Italians.

Is this what Autonomy really have been.

Sooner or later will go to Mitrovica as well no worry the plans are being put most of north will be repopulated no worry.

Mister

pre 14 godina

It would be a good gesture to give the ownership and the running of the centre to the locals and enthusiasts. I doubt that though.

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

NewSpeak anyone?

Liberal comes from the Latin word Liber, meaning Free.

Free to do as you like.
Free to own.
Free to create to your own enterprise.
Free to earn a lot of money from that enterprise.
Free from government control.
Free from YOU telling ME what to do.

At the extreme end of that liberal liberalism with all its liberties, you end up with anarchism, where YOU don't care what OTHER thinks.

Now how Mike made the associateion from Liberal to Left Wing to Communist is beyond me.

Communism is about:

The state, the county, the local commune, telling me what I can (not) do.
What I can (not) own.
Which private enterprise I can (not) engage in.
How much money I can (not) make.
Communism is about a sovjet (from Russian, "sovyet" meaning council) running the local factory instead of the original owner.
--

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands.

You mean it is about changing ownership? About change?

Change can hardly be considered conservative. Conservation is about preservation. Keeping things the way they are. Putting an enterprise into new hands is a change. It can not be a conservative thing.

Kosova-USA

pre 14 godina

Serb residents do not agree with the quick privatization plans, and state that the resort belongs to the Belgrade-based company Inex.


Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.

Dim Tuc

pre 14 godina

Regardless of the issue of whether creating jobs requires privatisation - sounds like some hackneyed old neo-liberal phrase from what should by now be considered a bad piece of recent history, but hey, maybe the state is just too broke to invest, I dunno.

And regardless of what one may think of the claim that it belongs not to the state but to a "limited" or "holding" company or something, which basically means the Serbian state has already crony privatised it and handed it to cronies in the time honoured east European pattern of the last 20 years, perfected by Milosevic, via which billions were ripped out of citizens hands to end up in a few pockets ... somewhere.

Regardless of all the above. Let's say for argument's sake it is Kosova property, and it will be privatised because the state has no cash to invest.

OK. But are not Kosovar Albanians a little embarassed that the announcement of the privatisation of their assets is made by ... Feith, rather than by their government?

miles

pre 14 godina

Is Feith, the friendly face of corruption? Actually his face doesn't look that friendly.

Belgrade should hand over ownership to local Serbian residents who could then accept funding from Belgrade and the EU without having to deal with the crooks in Prishtina.

The local residents could form an elected board employing local people. Distributing profits to every employee.

In England we have a retail company called 'John Lewis' that works on this principle. It is more successful than any other retail company on the High Street in the UK.

Unfortunately I think this is just another way of stealing EU money by Thaci and his buddies. Hand the business over to a friend of the Snake, do nothing, pay peanuts, and steal the cash.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 14 godina

Who is stoping Inex and any other company to submit a bid. That is property of Kosova and not Belgrade based comapny!?
Even Jeremic himself can submit a bid,who cares. Who ever gives the best price and fulfils all requirements wins.
(Kosova-USA, 8 December 2009 12:57)

If Feith and the EUrocrats attempt to get their grubby capitalist neo-liberal hands on the complex, Inex, the State company will take them to court and sue them since it owns the complex and has the deeds to prove it. You cannot take something that you do not own. It would be like me coming along and taking your house. Its called theft and its wrong.

This episode sums up the real intention of the Imperialists to dismember Yugoslavia. To dismantle socialism and impose their crooked neo liberal agenda (mass privitisations and poverty) on the Balkans. Brezovica should remain in the hands of the Serbian people - public ownership. No to privatisation.

Mike

pre 14 godina

"“The privatization will be done in a transparent way, in cooperation between the EU, Belgrade and Priština, because regional cooperation is an important condition for the Union,” said Feith."

-- When was the last time any sort of cooperation took place when all three of the above-mentioned parties were at the same table? Best to leave this matter with EULEX and Belgrade. As Strpce is a Serbian municipality, Pristina has, or should have, no say over it.

Princip, Gracanica, KiM, Srbija

pre 14 godina

Thief´s who have stolen something always try to get rid of the goods as quickly as possible - no doubt this needs to be done before ICJ judgement!

One can only wonder why the haste by this Feith?

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

Uranik

pre 14 godina

And who will buy it, internationally established ski operators with the capacity to invest in and develop the resort, or members of our government. Sadly, I think we all know the answer to that.

BKK

pre 14 godina

So what Albanians should not be able to go to Serbian Areas.

Only Serbs have this strange ideas its serbian population there u cant go.

If Albanians buy it let them hire who they like,

lets say Trepca is bought by French does this mean only Serbs should work in Trepca please.

we dont say anything when you sell stuff to whome you like Russians Chinese Italians.

Is this what Autonomy really have been.

Sooner or later will go to Mitrovica as well no worry the plans are being put most of north will be repopulated no worry.

Matthew

pre 14 godina

Niall, Vladimir & Dim Tuc,

Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR.

Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

What happened, I thought us liberal folks were all commies in disguise?

Wim Roffel

pre 14 godina

It is quite usual that mountain cmmunities keep control over their own ski centers.

What Feith is doing is just creating the pretext for ethnic cleansing by economic exclusion. You can wait for the next step: "our customers are mostly Albanians who prefer to be served by Albanians". Bye bye, Serb employment. So much for self-determination for Serbs.

http://outsidewalls.blogspot.com/2009/11/kosovo-what-happens-to-strpce.html

Mister

pre 14 godina

It would be a good gesture to give the ownership and the running of the centre to the locals and enthusiasts. I doubt that though.

DimTuc

pre 14 godina

Matthew:
"Privatization can hardly be called a “liberal” idea, it’s clearly conservative and EXACTLY what Reagan intended when he took on the USSR"

Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands. But they use the term "neo-liberal" to describe an extreme form of "economic liberalism", whereby economics is "free", ie, for those who have the money and power, to lord it over everyone else. Blasphemous use of the term, perhaps, but we've got it.

Where I disagree with Niall on this is his seeming belief that in Serbia privatisation/theft only began after Milosevic, or perhaps only exists in non-Serb parts of ex-Yugo, or something. But if you want to see theft on a massive scale of public assets flowing into private hands )and on to Cypriot banks or wherever) while the population was being pauperised, well it began in Yugo in the 1980s and reached its zenith under the corrupt/crony privatisation and half-privatisation and under the table privatisaiton (as well as the legal type, eg telecom) under Milosevic (and under Tudjman in Croatia). It was only clarified in those two states after these guys were swept away.

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Liberal = Left Wing = Communist.

NewSpeak anyone?

Liberal comes from the Latin word Liber, meaning Free.

Free to do as you like.
Free to own.
Free to create to your own enterprise.
Free to earn a lot of money from that enterprise.
Free from government control.
Free from YOU telling ME what to do.

At the extreme end of that liberal liberalism with all its liberties, you end up with anarchism, where YOU don't care what OTHER thinks.

Now how Mike made the associateion from Liberal to Left Wing to Communist is beyond me.

Communism is about:

The state, the county, the local commune, telling me what I can (not) do.
What I can (not) own.
Which private enterprise I can (not) engage in.
How much money I can (not) make.
Communism is about a sovjet (from Russian, "sovyet" meaning council) running the local factory instead of the original owner.
--

Jan Andersen (DK)

pre 14 godina

> Yeh privatisation is ultraconservative, it is stealing from the public to put assets into a few hands.

You mean it is about changing ownership? About change?

Change can hardly be considered conservative. Conservation is about preservation. Keeping things the way they are. Putting an enterprise into new hands is a change. It can not be a conservative thing.