Kosovo “doesn’t want“ white Schengen

Before Team Albania twist this piece of information for there benefit of the Fake Kosovo state, EU wants serbs in its organisation. What they dont want is 2 million plus Albanians entering the EU and given freem roam or Western Europe, if you dont belive me look at Turkey in Nato because of there mass number of troops but not in EU because of the mass immigrants!!!

Kosovo Je Srbija

"Kosovo “doesn’t want“ Serbian white Schengen"

It's not that Kosovo doesn't want white Schengen, it can't have it! Not now, and not for a long time, if ever.
I'm surprised Albania is not closer to getting it. Albania has had time to build a stable country for much longer than Serbia. Could be that Europe is realizing the muslim threat and want's to keep Turkey and Albanian out. Or that Albania has failed as a country. Except when it comes to joining NATO and fighting Europes/Americas wars. Then muslims are welcome to fight and die for the West.

Well that's the decision of the nationalists in Pristina, but I guess since K Serbs still use Serbian passports, they can travel as they please. It's also no surprise many Albanians haven't gotten rid of their Serbian/Yugoslav passports either as this is universally recognized. Those who want Kosovo to apply as a separate "state" are more than welcome to sit in the dark as long as their pround hearts wish.

Brilliant - no Schengen means no new gastarbeiters means no new remittances. Therefore, revel in this independence that means the right to starve yourselves. "Kosova" clearly has the government it deserves if it honestly believes this is a good result.

Just ask any European on any blog what do they think about Kosovo Albanians having a white Schengen .... haha ... The answer will be veeery eloquent.

I understand that Serbian people are tired of all these unbearable long-lasting sufferings, which they have been experiencing for the last decades... and a certain part of Serbian society has a great temptation to @ all this and build the highest wall in the world to separate themselves from Kosovo and to enter EU, given that Kosovo is the only real obstacle on this way - we know that Europe will never treat Kosovo as something more than a US military base in the Balkans...
But you feel a strong intrinsic resistence to this temptation... maybe coming from your DNA, maybe from your soul. The same resistance felt your ancestors when they had been under Turkish oppression and finally, despite everything, secured their land and their churches.
Now you face this nearly biblical dilemma and your Slavic soul already knows the correct answer - Косово je Србија.

"Kosovo "doesn't want" Serbia's white Schengen". Hm, well one cannot refuse something one has not been given/offered. And it is all likelihood our fellow countrymen will not be granted visa-free travel as long as it is a mafia/criminals-led state, as it is today. EU shows once more it does not want Kosovo Albanians - it is easier to keep them in Kosovo and pump in international aid, then have them in the EU, engaging in criminal activities.

Dave (6) is absolutely right. This Mr. Kuqi should think about it why Albanians sell homes to buy illegal Visa (about 2000 EUR let by Slovenia, abbout 3000EUR let by Greece) just to leave the "country" and stay somewhere illegally. Kosovo authorities have clearly prooved their incompetence in improving something, now they start harming. Of course Albanians will continue to ask for serbian Passports! What else is left to them. Maybee Kosovos FM Hyseni should get one to. Didn't he recently excuse himself -This is NO joke- he couldn't travel to ask for recognitions because he had no valid traveling documents. How bizar is this?

There is probably no alternative to this policy. But I do think it is very dubious as it encourages Kosovo Serbs to move to Serbia. Maybe someone can ask the EU whether Kosovo refugees who return to Kosovo will lose there right to visa free travel to the EU.

Thaci is betraying us with this policy. He wants Kosova isolated to create a mafia state from which he and his thugs can run their criminal enterprises into the rest of Europe. New elections in Kosova now!

Kosovo doesn't want" white Schengen

"...And I really don't want the grapes - it's sour!" - said the fox.

pss,
for whatever reason you are completely negative against anything positive for Serbs. What is it that Serbia can't offer the EU. Serbia was and is a player, entertainer and great host on the international scene.

What are Serbia's weaknesses, other than being a technological, economical and athletic threat to all.

When was the last time you seen the USA play against Albania on any given sporting event. When was the last time Albania hosted a musical event. When will you stop hating the Serbs and concentrate on your own culture and leave Serbia alone, Serbs don't need your advise.

Oh yeah, it seems that you are correct in assuming that everyone wants the Albanians in joining the CLUB.

Kosovo government and civil society should accuse EU of being xenophobic and discriminating Albanians. They should create a mood where they give this impression at least, that's what Serbia did and now they are entering the Schengen white list. Serbs said whole world hates us, they are sending us to Hague, we will vote Seselj blah blah blah and suddenly EU offers carrots.

"Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia."
EU is the future

Eeehh! Are you sure? Is that why Obama is in Russia as we speak? Without Russia Europe will freeze to death. At least they have something to offer, what does your country have??? Drugsmuglers, refugees etc etc. I rest my case!

Fortunately or unofortunately we dont want use(even if there are benefits) anything implemented without our consent.

Since Thaci/Sejdiu did not signed anything reflecting our future travel, we Kosovar citizens ought to respect and follow what our leaders say.


If Serbia enters the EU through the door we will enter through the window, or vice-versa, BUT not in the same way/manner.

Enough is enough!

Since Thaci/Sejdiu did not signed anything reflecting our future travel, we Kosovar citizens ought to respect and follow what our leaders say.
(PRN, 7 July 2009 11:00)

It would be interesting to know, how widespread is this kind of thinking among Albanians.

See, I am American, Hungarian and Russian at the same time. I have very little respect what most of our "leaders" do say, do not follow what they ask and at any occasion I don't mind to show all of them my middle finger if they ask some unreasonable thing.

Even more... I don't regard them "leaders". Obama and few other personalities in each country are OK more-less and if I vote for any I usually vote because their opponents are even worse.

As far as I understand, the majority of Serbs have similar approach.

It is sad to read what the EU is doing to our Southern citizens. But just remember that everyone is eligible to obtain a Serbian passport and with that you have access to all of Serbia and you are free to move to another part, from where you can obtain visa free travel. Don't despair my fellow citizens - where there's a will there's a way! Serbia can help so try being nice for a change.

"Albania has 3.5 million people. Out these 600 hundred thousand live in Greece, 300 thousand in Italy, and another 200 thousands live in other EU states. So bearing that in mind how many more can Albania afford to send to other EU countries."

Besim, tell this to Europeans and look into their happy faces ...:))

Looks like there will be many Agims in Pristina ringing up Gjons living in Presevo/Belgrade to ask for a 'favour'.

If this is true than this represent blatant discrimination by the EU towards ethnic Albanians. How dare the EU order Serbia who and who it cannot issue passports to. Belgrade should turn this down full stop and demand that all its citizens irrespective of nationality be entitled to a passport. Outrageous and disgusting.

Anyway until its confirmed we should treat it as tabloid trash.

For every K-Albanian immigrant in EU there are 2 Serbs immigrants.

The Serbian immigration and mafia is much much older and in Balkans comparable only to Greek immigration.

Kosovo “doesn’t want“ white Schengen"

As part of Serbia, B92.

I laugh when some posters say tat EU wants Serbs but not Albanians. Serbs, you use to have visas till 1990. If EU wanted you, you would not ave stayed isolated all this time.

Albania is getting visas next year (must fulfill criteria) and by October they will find a solution for Kosova.

Serbia is getting visas because of Tadic and cooperation with EULEX. Te brilliance of this: will you accept visas without Kosova or not? Think of the message it sends.

"I agree with you little Russia but life goes on. EU and NATO are the way to go for the Balkan countries. Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia
(EU is the future, 7 July 2009 15:58) "

Happy to inform you, we are getting only closer with Belarus - abolishing customs, creating operative military forces, common bank etc - the process has just begun. As for this tired argument about milk war - the closer partners are, the more trivial problems they have .. like France and Germany over EU agriculture spending...

"ancestors when they "collaborated"..."
@EU in future,

You shouldn't use fraud and forgery. This is one of the reasons for such a negative image of Kosovo Albanians in Europe....

I challenge any one in this Blog to this.

Listen I said it few days ago and will say it once more If u have the passport Serbian you can be living in Pristina, Adis Abebe thats it you are Serbian Citizen.

If an K-Albanian chooses to have dual citizenship great No one on earth can not tell him this is reason not to be let in the country ok.

IF u have it, so please stop with this strange stuff really dont understand it.

You know how many Serbs Have Craoatian passports very few and they been travelling for many years with them, same for this situation if they see u as a person they want to present Serbia then fine I am not sure of their process but the moment you get it from the right authorities u are set.

Again I challange any one to say contrary and if so you are free to sue this govermant that says you are not Serbian, but my friends you will have to say you are serbian in the end The choice is yours.

Albania has 3.5 million people. Out these 600 hundred thousand live in Greece, 300 thousand in Italy, and another 200 thousands live in other EU states. So bearing that in mind how many more can Albania afford to send to other EU countries. The reality is that Albania will get EU membership as a matter of formality rather than its citizens being able to travel abroad. Most of the people can already travel and anly those who can not afford that can't travel

I was watching the football on TV tonight and as I was dozing off in the chair it suddenly hit me the sheer farcical nature & stupidity of this.

I mean, come on guys, think. How in the name of God can this be enforced. Has the EU the brass neck to tell a sovereign state that it cannot issue passports to a certain ethnic group living within its internationally recognised borders. How are EULEX/KPS going to prevent a flood of ethnic Albanians converging on the bus station in Kosovska Mitrovica for the buses to Nis. Is the Snake going to prevent them leaving? Will Jovan the jovial bus driver have a steady supply of Albanian customers waiting for him.

Will there be an EU peacekeeping force sent to occupy Nis, take over the passport office? Belgrade will simply laugh in their faces and issue the passports anyway. Who is going to stop them?

The EUrocrats seem to forget that there are many ethnic Albanians living in Presevo, Nis, Belgrade and Novi Sad. How will they differentiate between Agim from Pristina, Teuta from Belgrade and Gonxha from Prizren? Will the young university graduate, Agim when he arrives in Berlin on the flight from Belgrade be told 'Nein' and sent back on the next flight despite showing his Serbian biometric passport, lichna carta and his brother Gjon's Presevo address? Will Teuta, on her way to a summer school in Vienna, when arriving at Kiskunhalas on the Belgrade to Budapest express train be thrown off, taken to and interrogated at the local police station and accompanied by the Rendorség on the next train back to Belgrade.

Will Immigation Officials from every EU state be stopping every ethnic Albanian on a Serbian passport from entering their borders?

This is ridiculous and frankly speaking, ludicrous.

“The visa liberalization proposal applies to citizens living on the territory of the Republic of Serbia, but not to citizens living on the territory of Kosovo under Resolution 1244,” the draft proposal states.
If this is true, I’m of the opinion that the EC will make a huge mistake, since will clear interfere with human rights. A person has the right to choose its citizenship, no matter where you are living in this case. With this "restriction" they are imposing to the minorities (Serbs, Bosnians) borne in Kosovo to accept the Kosovo independence. The fact that Kosovo as a population composed by a majority of Albanians does not mean that everyone who lives in Kosovo is in favor of the so called proclamation of independence. What has been done by the international community to change this?
Based on this news, a person borne in Kosovo and presently living in Belgrade as the right to the white Visa list policy and one that for different reasons could not moved to Belgrade or other city in Serbia cannot be cover with the same rights? Shall all minorities living in Kosovo move to Serbia? Is that the EU plan- “The exodus of the minorities from Kosovo? Where we stand regarding the 6 point plan?
The population should not be "punished" because of the Politicians premature decisions, and mistakes. Did the EC change its policies towards to the EU countries that did not recognize Kosovo? Can these countries accept ALL Serbian citizens in a possession of a valid biometric passport to entry their countries?
Why they don’t wait for the ECJ decision and then establish the necessary policies?
Kosovo is an issue that is far way to be solved. USA followed by other countries created a problem to the World that will not be easy to solve without harming the interests of the Serbia and Kosovo population.

Yes, Serbia is entering the EU. Albanians of Tirana and Pristina are not being accepted there just like Turkey. Oh, Europe, you are considering us as second european citizens, as if we were not original ancient Europe inhabitants but new comers just 3-400 years ago. This is painful for us. It's not fair for us. Just as they mutilated our country in 1912 they are leaving us apart just favouring their Serbian christian friends. Albanians, victims of history, like always. Serbs, privileged, like always. Maybe, they'll understand their wrong decision once their Serbian friends enter the EU first. Maybe. How about Serbia not accepting to enter without Kosovo and Albania? Just for the sake of principles that Serbia has recently discovered and defended with particular fervour?

I have read some of the coments and quite often the residents is kosovo are mentioned as refugees. I just wanted to mention that all the people that live in Kosovo, despite their ethnicity, are the citizens and there are no refugees. All people in Kosovo have citizenship status and no refugee status.

-One day we hear that Serbian Government doesn't want to enter to Europe without Kosova/o/,
the other day we hear Kosovan Gov. that this is a victory for them
and to top up this nuisance, EU openly discrimates people born in Kosova/o!!!

At the present,I don't know whom to believe!!!

I am more worried about the swine flu and existence then what our Governments are saying!
End of the day, they are all polititans,no matter which nationality,
I don't see how we can trust them when they brought us in this crisis,
when we don't know if we have the jobs tmw,
or we won't have the money to pay our mortgages,
to put the food on the plate for our children!

Peace and Love from London!

I'd give every albanian in Serbia a passport especially in Kosovo...let em all get out and let the goddamn EU deal with them.

I think the EC has found the way how to solve northern mitro problem in Kosova, without firing a bullet or having to use riot squads from eulex police.
Very few coments made any sence regarding this article. coment# 10 was right on the money with exception of last paragrapgh.

But you feel a strong intrinsic resistence to this temptation... maybe coming from your DNA, maybe from your soul. The same resistance felt your ancestors when they collaborated with the Turkish oppressors and finally, despite everything, secured their land and their churches.

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I agree with you little Russia but life goes on. EU and NATO are the way to go for the Balkan countries. Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia

How is that possible. After 200.000 bosnian victims, 10.000 croats and 14.000 kosovo albanians victims, Europe rewarded Serbia with Shchengen liberalization but not Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo. Shame on you Europe.
(Tony, Monaco, 8 July 2009 14:10)

Rather than make up more fantastical claims, can you provide us proof of those dreamed up figures of yours?

Anyway, I dont see Europe continually punishing Germany for crimes committed in WW2.

I see Serbs all fired up with this supposed "EU discrimination towards ethnic Albanians". Hah, very touching indeed. Perhaps those 1500 Albanians that wasted their money to get a Serbian passport, will see it as a bad investment, but that's about it. Perhaps in the coming months you might occasionally run across a Serbian pasosh in a garbage can, but then again 1500 is really not all that many.

Vuk #7
EU IS trying to lure Serbia into the fold, however not because they would be receiving some type of blessed addition as you interpret. If you cannot figure out the real reasons, just enjoy your new found home, as it will become obvious soon.
It is a small step process and any agreement on Serbia's part to not include Kosovo in anything is one more small step to the final stage.

the eu will never progress without basic ethical principles, but then who am i even speaking to?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 7 July 2009 23:41)

To us and I am shaking my head in disapproval.

OK, Everyone is having own limits. My limits are these "bollahs" - you know, "his - bollah", "your-bollah", "their-bollah". None of them is "my-bollah" and if I would be in charge of MoFA in Serbia or Hungary or any other place I would think twice, would I ever give a visa to someone who could be some "bollah" and pace under interrogation at the border everyone who was lucky to get it. And by first suspicious sign send them back quicker than you can say "inshallah".

You are with Serbia, where I am with "bollah". But it's quite a distance. But if Saudis would out of sudden de-recognize Kosovo I would never dare to call them "friends" as you did the day they recognized.

I think, that day you made the victims of Arab terror and even victims of Holocaust rotate in their graves...

Read it again: No deal for ANY person (be it Roma, serb, Turk, Bosniak or Albanian.) If the passports says "Kosovo" in the address you will be turned back, Agim or Igor.

If Serbia ignores the EU directive, EU will block everyone from Schengen
(Albano, 8 July 2009 04:49)

Nonsense, There will always be away around it. Agim can get through if his residency on his passport states Beograd, Nis, Novi Sad or Presevo. Besides this is a hair brained scheme from the EU and is unlucky to be enforced.

Belgrade will ignore any restrcitions on its passports imposed by a supernational body and issue the passports to Serbs, Albanians, Bosniaks etc. irrespective of nationality.

To deny residents of Kosmet the same privileges and rights of say a person in Nis is outright discrimination. Its merely speculation. No way would Belgrade comply with this immoral directive.

This tentative decision by eu officials is a bizarre one, as is the um news story about it. i would say that more than one reading is required as well as additional (different) media coverage.

as for the eu itself, it is, as i have often said, ethically challenged. big time. i've seen how their versions of compromise are played out, watched it thru the war (genocide) in bosnia by u-no-whom, and it wasn't pretty, it was sickening. now, while bosnia is still reeling in PTS (thanks to u no who and w the complicity of us, the so called intl comm)and kosovo/a is still getting on its feet (despite the constant pressures fr u-no-who), serbia alone is "rewarded" with special visa protocol. it is absolutely crazy and sends all the wrong messages.

as for the decision not to include anyone on kosovar soil, this is also full of hypocrisy -- some hold serbian passports, but are held back because of residence. lots of mixed messages, badly mixed.

the eu will never progress without basic ethical principles, but then who am i even speaking to?

roberto
frisco

How is that possible. After 200.000 bosnian victims, 10.000 croats and 14.000 kosovo albanians victims, Europe rewarded Serbia with Shchengen liberalization but not Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo. Shame on you Europe.

Happy to inform you, we are getting only closer with Belarus - abolishing customs, creating operative military forces, common bank etc - the process has just begun. As for this tired argument about milk war - the closer partners are, the more trivial problems they have .. like France and Germany over EU agriculture spending...

(Little Russia, 7 July 2009 20:34)

Actually, I just wonder why no one dropped in yet telling us about Ukrainians and Belarussians having nothing to do with Russians, now being free from deadly bear-hug. We want to hear that native people are celebrating their freedom 7/24 and hoping, one day to become central part of NATO.

I have some candidates and want to have a good laugh.

Apropos, "milk war". There was more serious war in the neighborhood than about "milk". What some geniuses do not get, is that the worst and most ugly fight can happen within family. It is still a family with very tight ties (without NECKTIES). The best sample is General Bagration. But of course the geniuses have no idea about Bagration. All they do is feeding a crazy "Misha" with promises and neckties. A stupid game.

Has the EU the brass neck to tell a sovereign state that it cannot issue passports to a certain ethnic group living within its internationally recognised borders
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Read it again: No deal for ANY person (be it Roma, serb, Turk, Bosniak or Albanian.) If the passports says "Kosovo" in the address you will be turned back, Agim or Igor.

If Serbia ignores the EU directive, EU will block everyone from Schengen

ok for k-albanians...but why for k-serbs belgrade use them and now they left them in the midle of the road

covering, among other things, the issue of visas and ways of facilitating travel for citizens of the province who elect not to take out Serbian passports.
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Anyone in Kosova can't travel wit it, so it's meaningless.

It will be a huge challenge however for Kosova authorities to stop Serbian citizens from Serbia (w/ residence there) to vote, get benefits, or move in Kosova.

"Kosovo “doesn’t want“ Serbian white Schengen"

It's not that Kosovo doesn't want white Schengen, it can't have it! Not now, and not for a long time, if ever.
I'm surprised Albania is not closer to getting it. Albania has had time to build a stable country for much longer than Serbia. Could be that Europe is realizing the muslim threat and want's to keep Turkey and Albanian out. Or that Albania has failed as a country. Except when it comes to joining NATO and fighting Europes/Americas wars. Then muslims are welcome to fight and die for the West.

For every K-Albanian immigrant in EU there are 2 Serbs immigrants.

The Serbian immigration and mafia is much much older and in Balkans comparable only to Greek immigration.

Yes, Serbia is entering the EU. Albanians of Tirana and Pristina are not being accepted there just like Turkey. Oh, Europe, you are considering us as second european citizens, as if we were not original ancient Europe inhabitants but new comers just 3-400 years ago. This is painful for us. It's not fair for us. Just as they mutilated our country in 1912 they are leaving us apart just favouring their Serbian christian friends. Albanians, victims of history, like always. Serbs, privileged, like always. Maybe, they'll understand their wrong decision once their Serbian friends enter the EU first. Maybe. How about Serbia not accepting to enter without Kosovo and Albania? Just for the sake of principles that Serbia has recently discovered and defended with particular fervour?

Kosovo “doesn’t want“ white Schengen"

As part of Serbia, B92.

I laugh when some posters say tat EU wants Serbs but not Albanians. Serbs, you use to have visas till 1990. If EU wanted you, you would not ave stayed isolated all this time.

Albania is getting visas next year (must fulfill criteria) and by October they will find a solution for Kosova.

Serbia is getting visas because of Tadic and cooperation with EULEX. Te brilliance of this: will you accept visas without Kosova or not? Think of the message it sends.

Before Team Albania twist this piece of information for there benefit of the Fake Kosovo state, EU wants serbs in its organisation. What they dont want is 2 million plus Albanians entering the EU and given freem roam or Western Europe, if you dont belive me look at Turkey in Nato because of there mass number of troops but not in EU because of the mass immigrants!!!

Kosovo Je Srbija

Vuk #7
EU IS trying to lure Serbia into the fold, however not because they would be receiving some type of blessed addition as you interpret. If you cannot figure out the real reasons, just enjoy your new found home, as it will become obvious soon.
It is a small step process and any agreement on Serbia's part to not include Kosovo in anything is one more small step to the final stage.

Fortunately or unofortunately we dont want use(even if there are benefits) anything implemented without our consent.

Since Thaci/Sejdiu did not signed anything reflecting our future travel, we Kosovar citizens ought to respect and follow what our leaders say.


If Serbia enters the EU through the door we will enter through the window, or vice-versa, BUT not in the same way/manner.

Enough is enough!

I think the EC has found the way how to solve northern mitro problem in Kosova, without firing a bullet or having to use riot squads from eulex police.
Very few coments made any sence regarding this article. coment# 10 was right on the money with exception of last paragrapgh.

Well that's the decision of the nationalists in Pristina, but I guess since K Serbs still use Serbian passports, they can travel as they please. It's also no surprise many Albanians haven't gotten rid of their Serbian/Yugoslav passports either as this is universally recognized. Those who want Kosovo to apply as a separate "state" are more than welcome to sit in the dark as long as their pround hearts wish.

But you feel a strong intrinsic resistence to this temptation... maybe coming from your DNA, maybe from your soul. The same resistance felt your ancestors when they collaborated with the Turkish oppressors and finally, despite everything, secured their land and their churches.

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I agree with you little Russia but life goes on. EU and NATO are the way to go for the Balkan countries. Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia

Kosovo government and civil society should accuse EU of being xenophobic and discriminating Albanians. They should create a mood where they give this impression at least, that's what Serbia did and now they are entering the Schengen white list. Serbs said whole world hates us, they are sending us to Hague, we will vote Seselj blah blah blah and suddenly EU offers carrots.

Brilliant - no Schengen means no new gastarbeiters means no new remittances. Therefore, revel in this independence that means the right to starve yourselves. "Kosova" clearly has the government it deserves if it honestly believes this is a good result.

I see Serbs all fired up with this supposed "EU discrimination towards ethnic Albanians". Hah, very touching indeed. Perhaps those 1500 Albanians that wasted their money to get a Serbian passport, will see it as a bad investment, but that's about it. Perhaps in the coming months you might occasionally run across a Serbian pasosh in a garbage can, but then again 1500 is really not all that many.

This tentative decision by eu officials is a bizarre one, as is the um news story about it. i would say that more than one reading is required as well as additional (different) media coverage.

as for the eu itself, it is, as i have often said, ethically challenged. big time. i've seen how their versions of compromise are played out, watched it thru the war (genocide) in bosnia by u-no-whom, and it wasn't pretty, it was sickening. now, while bosnia is still reeling in PTS (thanks to u no who and w the complicity of us, the so called intl comm)and kosovo/a is still getting on its feet (despite the constant pressures fr u-no-who), serbia alone is "rewarded" with special visa protocol. it is absolutely crazy and sends all the wrong messages.

as for the decision not to include anyone on kosovar soil, this is also full of hypocrisy -- some hold serbian passports, but are held back because of residence. lots of mixed messages, badly mixed.

the eu will never progress without basic ethical principles, but then who am i even speaking to?

roberto
frisco

I have read some of the coments and quite often the residents is kosovo are mentioned as refugees. I just wanted to mention that all the people that live in Kosovo, despite their ethnicity, are the citizens and there are no refugees. All people in Kosovo have citizenship status and no refugee status.

Albania has 3.5 million people. Out these 600 hundred thousand live in Greece, 300 thousand in Italy, and another 200 thousands live in other EU states. So bearing that in mind how many more can Albania afford to send to other EU countries. The reality is that Albania will get EU membership as a matter of formality rather than its citizens being able to travel abroad. Most of the people can already travel and anly those who can not afford that can't travel

"ancestors when they "collaborated"..."
@EU in future,

You shouldn't use fraud and forgery. This is one of the reasons for such a negative image of Kosovo Albanians in Europe....

Dave (6) is absolutely right. This Mr. Kuqi should think about it why Albanians sell homes to buy illegal Visa (about 2000 EUR let by Slovenia, abbout 3000EUR let by Greece) just to leave the "country" and stay somewhere illegally. Kosovo authorities have clearly prooved their incompetence in improving something, now they start harming. Of course Albanians will continue to ask for serbian Passports! What else is left to them. Maybee Kosovos FM Hyseni should get one to. Didn't he recently excuse himself -This is NO joke- he couldn't travel to ask for recognitions because he had no valid traveling documents. How bizar is this?

covering, among other things, the issue of visas and ways of facilitating travel for citizens of the province who elect not to take out Serbian passports.
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Anyone in Kosova can't travel wit it, so it's meaningless.

It will be a huge challenge however for Kosova authorities to stop Serbian citizens from Serbia (w/ residence there) to vote, get benefits, or move in Kosova.

There is probably no alternative to this policy. But I do think it is very dubious as it encourages Kosovo Serbs to move to Serbia. Maybe someone can ask the EU whether Kosovo refugees who return to Kosovo will lose there right to visa free travel to the EU.

Just ask any European on any blog what do they think about Kosovo Albanians having a white Schengen .... haha ... The answer will be veeery eloquent.

I understand that Serbian people are tired of all these unbearable long-lasting sufferings, which they have been experiencing for the last decades... and a certain part of Serbian society has a great temptation to @ all this and build the highest wall in the world to separate themselves from Kosovo and to enter EU, given that Kosovo is the only real obstacle on this way - we know that Europe will never treat Kosovo as something more than a US military base in the Balkans...
But you feel a strong intrinsic resistence to this temptation... maybe coming from your DNA, maybe from your soul. The same resistance felt your ancestors when they had been under Turkish oppression and finally, despite everything, secured their land and their churches.
Now you face this nearly biblical dilemma and your Slavic soul already knows the correct answer - Косово je Србија.

"Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia."
EU is the future

Eeehh! Are you sure? Is that why Obama is in Russia as we speak? Without Russia Europe will freeze to death. At least they have something to offer, what does your country have??? Drugsmuglers, refugees etc etc. I rest my case!

"Albania has 3.5 million people. Out these 600 hundred thousand live in Greece, 300 thousand in Italy, and another 200 thousands live in other EU states. So bearing that in mind how many more can Albania afford to send to other EU countries."

Besim, tell this to Europeans and look into their happy faces ...:))

Thaci is betraying us with this policy. He wants Kosova isolated to create a mafia state from which he and his thugs can run their criminal enterprises into the rest of Europe. New elections in Kosova now!

How is that possible. After 200.000 bosnian victims, 10.000 croats and 14.000 kosovo albanians victims, Europe rewarded Serbia with Shchengen liberalization but not Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo. Shame on you Europe.

Looks like there will be many Agims in Pristina ringing up Gjons living in Presevo/Belgrade to ask for a 'favour'.

If this is true than this represent blatant discrimination by the EU towards ethnic Albanians. How dare the EU order Serbia who and who it cannot issue passports to. Belgrade should turn this down full stop and demand that all its citizens irrespective of nationality be entitled to a passport. Outrageous and disgusting.

Anyway until its confirmed we should treat it as tabloid trash.

pss,
for whatever reason you are completely negative against anything positive for Serbs. What is it that Serbia can't offer the EU. Serbia was and is a player, entertainer and great host on the international scene.

What are Serbia's weaknesses, other than being a technological, economical and athletic threat to all.

When was the last time you seen the USA play against Albania on any given sporting event. When was the last time Albania hosted a musical event. When will you stop hating the Serbs and concentrate on your own culture and leave Serbia alone, Serbs don't need your advise.

Oh yeah, it seems that you are correct in assuming that everyone wants the Albanians in joining the CLUB.

It is sad to read what the EU is doing to our Southern citizens. But just remember that everyone is eligible to obtain a Serbian passport and with that you have access to all of Serbia and you are free to move to another part, from where you can obtain visa free travel. Don't despair my fellow citizens - where there's a will there's a way! Serbia can help so try being nice for a change.

Read it again: No deal for ANY person (be it Roma, serb, Turk, Bosniak or Albanian.) If the passports says "Kosovo" in the address you will be turned back, Agim or Igor.

If Serbia ignores the EU directive, EU will block everyone from Schengen
(Albano, 8 July 2009 04:49)

Nonsense, There will always be away around it. Agim can get through if his residency on his passport states Beograd, Nis, Novi Sad or Presevo. Besides this is a hair brained scheme from the EU and is unlucky to be enforced.

Belgrade will ignore any restrcitions on its passports imposed by a supernational body and issue the passports to Serbs, Albanians, Bosniaks etc. irrespective of nationality.

To deny residents of Kosmet the same privileges and rights of say a person in Nis is outright discrimination. Its merely speculation. No way would Belgrade comply with this immoral directive.

“The visa liberalization proposal applies to citizens living on the territory of the Republic of Serbia, but not to citizens living on the territory of Kosovo under Resolution 1244,” the draft proposal states.
If this is true, I’m of the opinion that the EC will make a huge mistake, since will clear interfere with human rights. A person has the right to choose its citizenship, no matter where you are living in this case. With this "restriction" they are imposing to the minorities (Serbs, Bosnians) borne in Kosovo to accept the Kosovo independence. The fact that Kosovo as a population composed by a majority of Albanians does not mean that everyone who lives in Kosovo is in favor of the so called proclamation of independence. What has been done by the international community to change this?
Based on this news, a person borne in Kosovo and presently living in Belgrade as the right to the white Visa list policy and one that for different reasons could not moved to Belgrade or other city in Serbia cannot be cover with the same rights? Shall all minorities living in Kosovo move to Serbia? Is that the EU plan- “The exodus of the minorities from Kosovo? Where we stand regarding the 6 point plan?
The population should not be "punished" because of the Politicians premature decisions, and mistakes. Did the EC change its policies towards to the EU countries that did not recognize Kosovo? Can these countries accept ALL Serbian citizens in a possession of a valid biometric passport to entry their countries?
Why they don’t wait for the ECJ decision and then establish the necessary policies?
Kosovo is an issue that is far way to be solved. USA followed by other countries created a problem to the World that will not be easy to solve without harming the interests of the Serbia and Kosovo population.

"Kosovo "doesn't want" Serbia's white Schengen". Hm, well one cannot refuse something one has not been given/offered. And it is all likelihood our fellow countrymen will not be granted visa-free travel as long as it is a mafia/criminals-led state, as it is today. EU shows once more it does not want Kosovo Albanians - it is easier to keep them in Kosovo and pump in international aid, then have them in the EU, engaging in criminal activities.

"I agree with you little Russia but life goes on. EU and NATO are the way to go for the Balkan countries. Even Belarus wants nothing to do with Russia
(EU is the future, 7 July 2009 15:58) "

Happy to inform you, we are getting only closer with Belarus - abolishing customs, creating operative military forces, common bank etc - the process has just begun. As for this tired argument about milk war - the closer partners are, the more trivial problems they have .. like France and Germany over EU agriculture spending...

How is that possible. After 200.000 bosnian victims, 10.000 croats and 14.000 kosovo albanians victims, Europe rewarded Serbia with Shchengen liberalization but not Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo. Shame on you Europe.
(Tony, Monaco, 8 July 2009 14:10)

Rather than make up more fantastical claims, can you provide us proof of those dreamed up figures of yours?

Anyway, I dont see Europe continually punishing Germany for crimes committed in WW2.

the eu will never progress without basic ethical principles, but then who am i even speaking to?

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 7 July 2009 23:41)

To us and I am shaking my head in disapproval.

OK, Everyone is having own limits. My limits are these "bollahs" - you know, "his - bollah", "your-bollah", "their-bollah". None of them is "my-bollah" and if I would be in charge of MoFA in Serbia or Hungary or any other place I would think twice, would I ever give a visa to someone who could be some "bollah" and pace under interrogation at the border everyone who was lucky to get it. And by first suspicious sign send them back quicker than you can say "inshallah".

You are with Serbia, where I am with "bollah". But it's quite a distance. But if Saudis would out of sudden de-recognize Kosovo I would never dare to call them "friends" as you did the day they recognized.

I think, that day you made the victims of Arab terror and even victims of Holocaust rotate in their graves...

Since Thaci/Sejdiu did not signed anything reflecting our future travel, we Kosovar citizens ought to respect and follow what our leaders say.
(PRN, 7 July 2009 11:00)

It would be interesting to know, how widespread is this kind of thinking among Albanians.

See, I am American, Hungarian and Russian at the same time. I have very little respect what most of our "leaders" do say, do not follow what they ask and at any occasion I don't mind to show all of them my middle finger if they ask some unreasonable thing.

Even more... I don't regard them "leaders". Obama and few other personalities in each country are OK more-less and if I vote for any I usually vote because their opponents are even worse.

As far as I understand, the majority of Serbs have similar approach.

-One day we hear that Serbian Government doesn't want to enter to Europe without Kosova/o/,
the other day we hear Kosovan Gov. that this is a victory for them
and to top up this nuisance, EU openly discrimates people born in Kosova/o!!!

At the present,I don't know whom to believe!!!

I am more worried about the swine flu and existence then what our Governments are saying!
End of the day, they are all polititans,no matter which nationality,
I don't see how we can trust them when they brought us in this crisis,
when we don't know if we have the jobs tmw,
or we won't have the money to pay our mortgages,
to put the food on the plate for our children!

Peace and Love from London!

ok for k-albanians...but why for k-serbs belgrade use them and now they left them in the midle of the road

I was watching the football on TV tonight and as I was dozing off in the chair it suddenly hit me the sheer farcical nature & stupidity of this.

I mean, come on guys, think. How in the name of God can this be enforced. Has the EU the brass neck to tell a sovereign state that it cannot issue passports to a certain ethnic group living within its internationally recognised borders. How are EULEX/KPS going to prevent a flood of ethnic Albanians converging on the bus station in Kosovska Mitrovica for the buses to Nis. Is the Snake going to prevent them leaving? Will Jovan the jovial bus driver have a steady supply of Albanian customers waiting for him.

Will there be an EU peacekeeping force sent to occupy Nis, take over the passport office? Belgrade will simply laugh in their faces and issue the passports anyway. Who is going to stop them?

The EUrocrats seem to forget that there are many ethnic Albanians living in Presevo, Nis, Belgrade and Novi Sad. How will they differentiate between Agim from Pristina, Teuta from Belgrade and Gonxha from Prizren? Will the young university graduate, Agim when he arrives in Berlin on the flight from Belgrade be told 'Nein' and sent back on the next flight despite showing his Serbian biometric passport, lichna carta and his brother Gjon's Presevo address? Will Teuta, on her way to a summer school in Vienna, when arriving at Kiskunhalas on the Belgrade to Budapest express train be thrown off, taken to and interrogated at the local police station and accompanied by the Rendorség on the next train back to Belgrade.

Will Immigation Officials from every EU state be stopping every ethnic Albanian on a Serbian passport from entering their borders?

This is ridiculous and frankly speaking, ludicrous.

I'd give every albanian in Serbia a passport especially in Kosovo...let em all get out and let the goddamn EU deal with them.

Kosovo doesn't want" white Schengen

"...And I really don't want the grapes - it's sour!" - said the fox.

I challenge any one in this Blog to this.

Listen I said it few days ago and will say it once more If u have the passport Serbian you can be living in Pristina, Adis Abebe thats it you are Serbian Citizen.

If an K-Albanian chooses to have dual citizenship great No one on earth can not tell him this is reason not to be let in the country ok.

IF u have it, so please stop with this strange stuff really dont understand it.

You know how many Serbs Have Craoatian passports very few and they been travelling for many years with them, same for this situation if they see u as a person they want to present Serbia then fine I am not sure of their process but the moment you get it from the right authorities u are set.

Again I challange any one to say contrary and if so you are free to sue this govermant that says you are not Serbian, but my friends you will have to say you are serbian in the end The choice is yours.

Happy to inform you, we are getting only closer with Belarus - abolishing customs, creating operative military forces, common bank etc - the process has just begun. As for this tired argument about milk war - the closer partners are, the more trivial problems they have .. like France and Germany over EU agriculture spending...

(Little Russia, 7 July 2009 20:34)

Actually, I just wonder why no one dropped in yet telling us about Ukrainians and Belarussians having nothing to do with Russians, now being free from deadly bear-hug. We want to hear that native people are celebrating their freedom 7/24 and hoping, one day to become central part of NATO.

I have some candidates and want to have a good laugh.

Apropos, "milk war". There was more serious war in the neighborhood than about "milk". What some geniuses do not get, is that the worst and most ugly fight can happen within family. It is still a family with very tight ties (without NECKTIES). The best sample is General Bagration. But of course the geniuses have no idea about Bagration. All they do is feeding a crazy "Misha" with promises and neckties. A stupid game.

Has the EU the brass neck to tell a sovereign state that it cannot issue passports to a certain ethnic group living within its internationally recognised borders
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Read it again: No deal for ANY person (be it Roma, serb, Turk, Bosniak or Albanian.) If the passports says "Kosovo" in the address you will be turned back, Agim or Igor.

If Serbia ignores the EU directive, EU will block everyone from Schengen