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Wednesday, 11.07.2007.

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Ceku to West: Sidestep UN

Agim Ceku urged the EU Wednesday to sidestep the UN Security Council on the issue of Kosovo's future status.

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Canadien

pre 17 godina

Olf said > "Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?

What happened Olf is resolution 1244, clearly Serbia won since Resolution 1244 clearly states that Kosovo will remain Serbian. Clinton had no choice but to agree to that condition because NATO did not want to dare fight the Serbs on the ground, the result would have been 10 times worse then what is going on in Iraq today. So much for your smug "what happened in the end!

Olf

pre 17 godina

Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?
I could have stand against Mike Tyson in a ring easily, of course only once, but what would have happened to me. I would be crazy to go out and fight him again since I would know the result.
Looks like you are not aware what power can do. Thanks god that Serbian military has learned lessons.

Canadien

pre 17 godina

laki,

The news link you posted is ridiculous, first its from Yahoo! WOW a serious source for news! Second it does not name any names, "a European source" it says, that's absolutely ridicules, anyone can be a European source, even you! by the way for less then a couple of thousand dollars anyone can post a Yahoo story! Show me something from a leading and legitimate news source. And did you hear, Russia said NO again. Its not looking good my friend.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

I can't stand it anymore. I realize that English is not the mother tongue of many commentators here but, please look some words up before you use them. You must have goole.com available, or something similar. The people that keep referring to "Serbian rappers committing crimes against Albanians", is the funniest of all. Rappers sing Rap music. I think you are trying to say "Rapists"? Anyway, did the KLA rap also while they raped Serbian women, Olf?

Tirons

pre 17 godina

It seems waiting for Russia is useless at this time. Kosova's government should declare unilateral independence. Other countries (including Serbia) will have to eventually accept the will of the people of Kosova. Enough dealing with Serbia and their corrupt Russian supporters. Kosova deserves its freedom.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Olf, Valdette...

Understand that Serbia has stood up to NATO bombardment for 78 days and a meer 8% of the military was eliminated. Mainly old and immobile units. Serbia is quite capable of securing its own borders with Kosovo. As for why Russia didnt reply right away to the new draft. Simple, they wanted to get drunk and laugh at how many ways america is able to verbaly mask independence. In hopes Russia will not see through it. Independence seekers... Taiwan is more likely to gain independence then you.

Olf

pre 17 godina

Ceku is right. NATO intervention did not need UNSC resolution, same can do for Independence. After 120 days of negotiating if no solution for Serbia to accept the Independence is found than Kosova declare the independence, these are the signs given from the entire world except Serbia. Surprising, this time Russia did not automatically say no to the new draft.
Break thru is on the way, yes. Of course that time is needed and we have the time.
All it matters is not to be living in the same country with terrorist, rapper killers of Serbian regime, the is acceptable.

Valdet, Vushtrri

pre 17 godina

JOVAN: "from CIVILIZED europe with love"
If you mean Western Europe, than forget it. Just see the map of Western Civilization borders on Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations". Due to that, your country (Serbia) belongs to another part of civilization.

To YAROSLAV :
Maybe Aland Islands in Finland are demilitarized entirely, but Kosova has it's police forces armed even with automatic rifles, KPC(ex KLA)Guard also armed with Simonova rifles(7.62 or 7.65 mm rifles, while it's Military Police are carrying AK 47 and pistols 9mm. Due to the Ahtisari plan, Kosova will have it's armed Security Forces. Remember the taxes that 100% are going to Kosova budget (non to the Serbian), School curriculums different from Serbia and similar to Albania. Your story for Aland Islands, is like a title of Thomas More book "Uthopia".

Vuk

pre 17 godina

Unfortunatly Ceku and his friends will be very sweaty as soon as the west decides to withdraw support for Kosovo, because there is litrally no other country in real terms that supports the "greater Albania" idea, and when that time comes the Serbs will carry out justice.
There will be no more persecution of Serbs, there will be no more threats from the KLA, there will be no Albanian indicted war criminals running the country, get ready for the future guys!

If justice is carried out then the Serbs will prosper.

Driton

pre 17 godina

Who cares about Agim Ceku, he is a puppet. The real boss is elsewhere. Go Tirana. You are our heart. We are with you. Do you know that lek is one of the local currencies in use now in Kosova alongside with euro? Do you know that albanian products are gaining more and more terrain every day in Kosova (we love Glina water and even Coca Cola is imported now from the albanian establishment)? Do you know that albanian music productions and TV shows are now the most popular in Kosova (Portokalli rocks)? Do you know that albanian national soccer team have its best fans in Kosova (Edmond Kapllani for president)? Who needs that formal "greater Albania"? We already have it. From Peja with love :)

louie

pre 17 godina

Dear Mike,I always read your comments.They are very interesting and 99%fair.I agree with you on some things but I think Mr.Ceku is right when he questioned the credibility of UN.They are becoming a joke!
Almost a year ago somebody from UN said the Kosova/o status will be decided in ...
So I understand where Mr.Ceku is coming from,he needs to raise the voice because Kosovan Albanians are fed up with this situation!!!
For me he never was my choice as PM.He has respect in Kosova/o but he was to "involved" with Serbs,even though the Serbs killed his father,etc.He holds the Croatian Passport and people like myself who hold a British Passport are not good enough for Kosova/o.
I always liked Mr.Veton Surroi,his dad was an Yougoslavian Ambassador and was killed somehow mysteriously!!!
MR.Surroi was never in KLA,he has "connections" in the politics(recently met with Mr.Bush in Prague)so for me he is an ideal leader for Kosovan Albanians.
Who made Mr.Ceku a PM only God knows.
A President is OK.Mr.F.Sejdiu is a fantastic president.
The biggest problem is that nobody is asking them what they think.They(UN and US)told them to be patient and everything is going to be allright,but that is not happening,at the moment Serbia and Russia are winning!!!
In Kosova/o situation there is a big difference for American People,while in Iraq and Afghanistan the people dislike them,in Kosova/o they will be their heroes.And I think the Americans at the moment need every support they can get in international arena.
So for a born Kosovan Albanian I am greatful that we have friends like US and UK,what the future holds for us,only GOD knows.Cheerio.

papajohn

pre 17 godina

Ceku is not a politician and should never be taken seriously. He is an ex-army officer, and probable war criminal. He was set up by the US, because he was the safest and most reliable person to follow their orders. Otherwise, I'm sure they would turn him over to the Hague. There are arrest warrants out for him. I believe he will eventually have to deal with that.

Whatever he says, is just to pacify the Albanians in Kosovo, and to save his own rear. Honestly, does this guy really look like a knowledgable and credible politician?

GSP

pre 17 godina

Can you believe this guy? Ceku really thinks anyone will take him seriously? Please - that's like letting a bull run through a china factory.

To Dragan's comment - you are right! He IS a KLA terrorist & should be put in prison.

Next -

Jovan

pre 17 godina

"to laster":

if it stays the way it is, there is no need for serbian troops to go in! the european union will supervise the k-albanians autonomy what means they will rule themselves, and that´s it.

there it goes, the naive dream of "greater Albania"...

from CIVILIZED europe with love,
J.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

Dragan, this one made me laugh out loud also for the same reason. Also if he thinks the U.S. will sidestep the UN now with the mess it made by sidestepping international law to invade Iraq this man is delirious.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

laster,
If Kosovo stays part of Serbia it would fall under the Serbian governments formula "more then autonomy, less then independence" and the most likely outcome of this would be something like the Aland Islands in Finland. Those islands are a Finnish province where over 90% of the population is Swede, they are demilitarized entirely, have their own police, most Finnish laws do not apply their (they have their own laws), it also has some degree of autonomy in international instituations (something Kosovo would have to a larger degree if it were to stay part of Serbia). Now using your logic these islands are not part of Finland, but everyone knows that due to international law that has existed since the treaty of Westphalia they are.

spunky

pre 17 godina

Mike
"If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

I wonder why Kosovo is Eurpes mos underdeveloped region! Mike? The serbs ran it for 100 yerars didnt they? besides isnt Kosovo supposed to be a serbian craddle of civilisation?
Hey Mike i think this football thing you mentioned applies to you not to Ceku. wake up and think rational my friend! Kosovo will be independent very soon!

laki NY

pre 17 godina

Princip this is for you

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070711/wl_afp/kosovoserbiaeu_070711174059

I am eagerly waiting for you to read that article and make it sounds like EU said NO no NO no no no to independence. Entertain the board mr Pricnip.

luciano

pre 17 godina

The status quo is great for Serbia.The EU administers Kosovo for the next 50 years and gets all the blame when after all that time Kosovo will still not be economically qualified to join the EU.The ownership deed given to Serbia in 1912 way before Yugoslavia even existed cannot be revoked and the legalist Europeans know this.

JHam

pre 17 godina

the un is the reason why serbs forces are no longer in kosovo and now PM Ceku says to side step the UN. LOL where does he the all the funding comes from for Kosovo.

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Laster,
I don’t think many of us care if Serbian soldiers are stationed in Kosovo or not, as long as our population there is safe. Everyone here keeps telling you guys that we support autonomy and the right for you to rule yourselves in Kosovo. That is exactly why the Serbian government supports maintaining the status quo for now, we can live with the current situation. If you believe Kosovo is already independent, then what is the big hurry? Why all the concerns over possible violence and Albanians losing patience? Why not maintain the status quo forever then? We're cool with it, and you all seem to believe its independence.
You try to claim Kosovo is already "independent", well I can make just as strong an argument that Kosovo is already "partitioned".
Many of you make the claim that because of humanitarian reasons that Kosovo should be independent. I say that the ratio of Serb victims to Albanian victims mirrors the population exactly and that the Albanians were the last ones to engage in violence (twice in fact) so we have just as much right to partition Kosovo based on humanitarian grounds as you do in asking for Independence.
All Ceku will accomplish by side stepping the UN is partition. If he so chooses to do so in that fashion, the end result will be to set back Kosovo's entry into the EU and scare off investors. We must work together in order to find a lasting peaceful solution that will not set a negative precedent in how these issues are handled in all the other countries facing very similar problems. We must show the international community that we both have the political maturity to be considered positive influences on the EU as a whole. If we do not, it will spell the end of the EU at some point in the future.
The fact is 50% of the Serbian population do not support joining the EU if it means giving up Kosovo. The International Community should seriously consider this.

laster

pre 17 godina

u guys are not leaving in the real world. Everyone including ur Kostunica knows Kosova is independant. Even if it stays the way it is, what do u think? Do u really think Kosova is a serbian province the way it is. Do u really believe serb soldiers and police would ever put their feet inside Kosova?
From Tirana with Love

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Solan tells Ceku that there is not going to be a resolution and that the EU will not bypass the UN but Ceku still insists on telling the EU what it should do - lol!!! Solana seems to have immediately put Ceku in place and on public record so it Ceku cannot know go off and continue with lies which he has been aware of since the December visit to Moscow!

At least we have not had the "we will declare unilaterally" - seems like even Ceku has given up on that bluff!!

kate

pre 17 godina

Mike: "If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

Not if you play for Chelsea!

Dragan

pre 17 godina

Ok this one made me laugh out loud. Agime Ceku is telling the world to sidestep the UN and change the order of international law. Does he think he is the emperor of Rome? Reality check - Agim Ceku is a KLA terrorist who is now wearing a suit, he should be in jail in any normal society, but in UN run Kosovo, he is actually an elected leader and the man that albanians look up to. We must be in a twilight zone. This gets funnier and more bizzare every day.

Obilic

pre 17 godina

I love when ceku gets upset..he just shows the world his true colors. The west will never give Kosovo independence, this man seems unstable to me!

luciano

pre 17 godina

The legalist Europeans have come across a Russian and Chinese stone wall in the UNSC.A new formula must be presented by the EU which deals with LONG term stability in all of Europe.Kosovo is just one of many areas needing autonomy but secession cannot be endorsed regardless of past history and who did what to whom.5 of the 7 CEFTA countries have separatist movements and they all must be dealt with uniformly or else you will have chaos.If the Greeks and Turks are ancouraged to reconcile after their bloody past then any 2 other groups(Slavs and Romanians in Moldova,Muslims and Serbs and Croats in Bosnia,Macedonians and Albanians etc.)should also be encouraged to do the same under a European tent.The fate of Europe cannot be held hostage by threats and blackmail by any one group.

Mike

pre 17 godina

See, this is the reason why people like Ceku should only be allowed to enter a house of government as a tourist with a camera, and not as a leader. He needs to learn how to play by the rules, or not play at all. If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified.

Ceku, consider your statement your yellow card.

Mike

pre 17 godina

See, this is the reason why people like Ceku should only be allowed to enter a house of government as a tourist with a camera, and not as a leader. He needs to learn how to play by the rules, or not play at all. If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified.

Ceku, consider your statement your yellow card.

luciano

pre 17 godina

The legalist Europeans have come across a Russian and Chinese stone wall in the UNSC.A new formula must be presented by the EU which deals with LONG term stability in all of Europe.Kosovo is just one of many areas needing autonomy but secession cannot be endorsed regardless of past history and who did what to whom.5 of the 7 CEFTA countries have separatist movements and they all must be dealt with uniformly or else you will have chaos.If the Greeks and Turks are ancouraged to reconcile after their bloody past then any 2 other groups(Slavs and Romanians in Moldova,Muslims and Serbs and Croats in Bosnia,Macedonians and Albanians etc.)should also be encouraged to do the same under a European tent.The fate of Europe cannot be held hostage by threats and blackmail by any one group.

Obilic

pre 17 godina

I love when ceku gets upset..he just shows the world his true colors. The west will never give Kosovo independence, this man seems unstable to me!

Dragan

pre 17 godina

Ok this one made me laugh out loud. Agime Ceku is telling the world to sidestep the UN and change the order of international law. Does he think he is the emperor of Rome? Reality check - Agim Ceku is a KLA terrorist who is now wearing a suit, he should be in jail in any normal society, but in UN run Kosovo, he is actually an elected leader and the man that albanians look up to. We must be in a twilight zone. This gets funnier and more bizzare every day.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Solan tells Ceku that there is not going to be a resolution and that the EU will not bypass the UN but Ceku still insists on telling the EU what it should do - lol!!! Solana seems to have immediately put Ceku in place and on public record so it Ceku cannot know go off and continue with lies which he has been aware of since the December visit to Moscow!

At least we have not had the "we will declare unilaterally" - seems like even Ceku has given up on that bluff!!

kate

pre 17 godina

Mike: "If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

Not if you play for Chelsea!

laster

pre 17 godina

u guys are not leaving in the real world. Everyone including ur Kostunica knows Kosova is independant. Even if it stays the way it is, what do u think? Do u really think Kosova is a serbian province the way it is. Do u really believe serb soldiers and police would ever put their feet inside Kosova?
From Tirana with Love

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Laster,
I don’t think many of us care if Serbian soldiers are stationed in Kosovo or not, as long as our population there is safe. Everyone here keeps telling you guys that we support autonomy and the right for you to rule yourselves in Kosovo. That is exactly why the Serbian government supports maintaining the status quo for now, we can live with the current situation. If you believe Kosovo is already independent, then what is the big hurry? Why all the concerns over possible violence and Albanians losing patience? Why not maintain the status quo forever then? We're cool with it, and you all seem to believe its independence.
You try to claim Kosovo is already "independent", well I can make just as strong an argument that Kosovo is already "partitioned".
Many of you make the claim that because of humanitarian reasons that Kosovo should be independent. I say that the ratio of Serb victims to Albanian victims mirrors the population exactly and that the Albanians were the last ones to engage in violence (twice in fact) so we have just as much right to partition Kosovo based on humanitarian grounds as you do in asking for Independence.
All Ceku will accomplish by side stepping the UN is partition. If he so chooses to do so in that fashion, the end result will be to set back Kosovo's entry into the EU and scare off investors. We must work together in order to find a lasting peaceful solution that will not set a negative precedent in how these issues are handled in all the other countries facing very similar problems. We must show the international community that we both have the political maturity to be considered positive influences on the EU as a whole. If we do not, it will spell the end of the EU at some point in the future.
The fact is 50% of the Serbian population do not support joining the EU if it means giving up Kosovo. The International Community should seriously consider this.

JHam

pre 17 godina

the un is the reason why serbs forces are no longer in kosovo and now PM Ceku says to side step the UN. LOL where does he the all the funding comes from for Kosovo.

luciano

pre 17 godina

The status quo is great for Serbia.The EU administers Kosovo for the next 50 years and gets all the blame when after all that time Kosovo will still not be economically qualified to join the EU.The ownership deed given to Serbia in 1912 way before Yugoslavia even existed cannot be revoked and the legalist Europeans know this.

spunky

pre 17 godina

Mike
"If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

I wonder why Kosovo is Eurpes mos underdeveloped region! Mike? The serbs ran it for 100 yerars didnt they? besides isnt Kosovo supposed to be a serbian craddle of civilisation?
Hey Mike i think this football thing you mentioned applies to you not to Ceku. wake up and think rational my friend! Kosovo will be independent very soon!

laki NY

pre 17 godina

Princip this is for you

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070711/wl_afp/kosovoserbiaeu_070711174059

I am eagerly waiting for you to read that article and make it sounds like EU said NO no NO no no no to independence. Entertain the board mr Pricnip.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

Dragan, this one made me laugh out loud also for the same reason. Also if he thinks the U.S. will sidestep the UN now with the mess it made by sidestepping international law to invade Iraq this man is delirious.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

laster,
If Kosovo stays part of Serbia it would fall under the Serbian governments formula "more then autonomy, less then independence" and the most likely outcome of this would be something like the Aland Islands in Finland. Those islands are a Finnish province where over 90% of the population is Swede, they are demilitarized entirely, have their own police, most Finnish laws do not apply their (they have their own laws), it also has some degree of autonomy in international instituations (something Kosovo would have to a larger degree if it were to stay part of Serbia). Now using your logic these islands are not part of Finland, but everyone knows that due to international law that has existed since the treaty of Westphalia they are.

Jovan

pre 17 godina

"to laster":

if it stays the way it is, there is no need for serbian troops to go in! the european union will supervise the k-albanians autonomy what means they will rule themselves, and that´s it.

there it goes, the naive dream of "greater Albania"...

from CIVILIZED europe with love,
J.

papajohn

pre 17 godina

Ceku is not a politician and should never be taken seriously. He is an ex-army officer, and probable war criminal. He was set up by the US, because he was the safest and most reliable person to follow their orders. Otherwise, I'm sure they would turn him over to the Hague. There are arrest warrants out for him. I believe he will eventually have to deal with that.

Whatever he says, is just to pacify the Albanians in Kosovo, and to save his own rear. Honestly, does this guy really look like a knowledgable and credible politician?

GSP

pre 17 godina

Can you believe this guy? Ceku really thinks anyone will take him seriously? Please - that's like letting a bull run through a china factory.

To Dragan's comment - you are right! He IS a KLA terrorist & should be put in prison.

Next -

louie

pre 17 godina

Dear Mike,I always read your comments.They are very interesting and 99%fair.I agree with you on some things but I think Mr.Ceku is right when he questioned the credibility of UN.They are becoming a joke!
Almost a year ago somebody from UN said the Kosova/o status will be decided in ...
So I understand where Mr.Ceku is coming from,he needs to raise the voice because Kosovan Albanians are fed up with this situation!!!
For me he never was my choice as PM.He has respect in Kosova/o but he was to "involved" with Serbs,even though the Serbs killed his father,etc.He holds the Croatian Passport and people like myself who hold a British Passport are not good enough for Kosova/o.
I always liked Mr.Veton Surroi,his dad was an Yougoslavian Ambassador and was killed somehow mysteriously!!!
MR.Surroi was never in KLA,he has "connections" in the politics(recently met with Mr.Bush in Prague)so for me he is an ideal leader for Kosovan Albanians.
Who made Mr.Ceku a PM only God knows.
A President is OK.Mr.F.Sejdiu is a fantastic president.
The biggest problem is that nobody is asking them what they think.They(UN and US)told them to be patient and everything is going to be allright,but that is not happening,at the moment Serbia and Russia are winning!!!
In Kosova/o situation there is a big difference for American People,while in Iraq and Afghanistan the people dislike them,in Kosova/o they will be their heroes.And I think the Americans at the moment need every support they can get in international arena.
So for a born Kosovan Albanian I am greatful that we have friends like US and UK,what the future holds for us,only GOD knows.Cheerio.

Driton

pre 17 godina

Who cares about Agim Ceku, he is a puppet. The real boss is elsewhere. Go Tirana. You are our heart. We are with you. Do you know that lek is one of the local currencies in use now in Kosova alongside with euro? Do you know that albanian products are gaining more and more terrain every day in Kosova (we love Glina water and even Coca Cola is imported now from the albanian establishment)? Do you know that albanian music productions and TV shows are now the most popular in Kosova (Portokalli rocks)? Do you know that albanian national soccer team have its best fans in Kosova (Edmond Kapllani for president)? Who needs that formal "greater Albania"? We already have it. From Peja with love :)

Vuk

pre 17 godina

Unfortunatly Ceku and his friends will be very sweaty as soon as the west decides to withdraw support for Kosovo, because there is litrally no other country in real terms that supports the "greater Albania" idea, and when that time comes the Serbs will carry out justice.
There will be no more persecution of Serbs, there will be no more threats from the KLA, there will be no Albanian indicted war criminals running the country, get ready for the future guys!

If justice is carried out then the Serbs will prosper.

Valdet, Vushtrri

pre 17 godina

JOVAN: "from CIVILIZED europe with love"
If you mean Western Europe, than forget it. Just see the map of Western Civilization borders on Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations". Due to that, your country (Serbia) belongs to another part of civilization.

To YAROSLAV :
Maybe Aland Islands in Finland are demilitarized entirely, but Kosova has it's police forces armed even with automatic rifles, KPC(ex KLA)Guard also armed with Simonova rifles(7.62 or 7.65 mm rifles, while it's Military Police are carrying AK 47 and pistols 9mm. Due to the Ahtisari plan, Kosova will have it's armed Security Forces. Remember the taxes that 100% are going to Kosova budget (non to the Serbian), School curriculums different from Serbia and similar to Albania. Your story for Aland Islands, is like a title of Thomas More book "Uthopia".

Olf

pre 17 godina

Ceku is right. NATO intervention did not need UNSC resolution, same can do for Independence. After 120 days of negotiating if no solution for Serbia to accept the Independence is found than Kosova declare the independence, these are the signs given from the entire world except Serbia. Surprising, this time Russia did not automatically say no to the new draft.
Break thru is on the way, yes. Of course that time is needed and we have the time.
All it matters is not to be living in the same country with terrorist, rapper killers of Serbian regime, the is acceptable.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Olf, Valdette...

Understand that Serbia has stood up to NATO bombardment for 78 days and a meer 8% of the military was eliminated. Mainly old and immobile units. Serbia is quite capable of securing its own borders with Kosovo. As for why Russia didnt reply right away to the new draft. Simple, they wanted to get drunk and laugh at how many ways america is able to verbaly mask independence. In hopes Russia will not see through it. Independence seekers... Taiwan is more likely to gain independence then you.

Tirons

pre 17 godina

It seems waiting for Russia is useless at this time. Kosova's government should declare unilateral independence. Other countries (including Serbia) will have to eventually accept the will of the people of Kosova. Enough dealing with Serbia and their corrupt Russian supporters. Kosova deserves its freedom.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

I can't stand it anymore. I realize that English is not the mother tongue of many commentators here but, please look some words up before you use them. You must have goole.com available, or something similar. The people that keep referring to "Serbian rappers committing crimes against Albanians", is the funniest of all. Rappers sing Rap music. I think you are trying to say "Rapists"? Anyway, did the KLA rap also while they raped Serbian women, Olf?

Canadien

pre 17 godina

laki,

The news link you posted is ridiculous, first its from Yahoo! WOW a serious source for news! Second it does not name any names, "a European source" it says, that's absolutely ridicules, anyone can be a European source, even you! by the way for less then a couple of thousand dollars anyone can post a Yahoo story! Show me something from a leading and legitimate news source. And did you hear, Russia said NO again. Its not looking good my friend.

Olf

pre 17 godina

Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?
I could have stand against Mike Tyson in a ring easily, of course only once, but what would have happened to me. I would be crazy to go out and fight him again since I would know the result.
Looks like you are not aware what power can do. Thanks god that Serbian military has learned lessons.

Canadien

pre 17 godina

Olf said > "Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?

What happened Olf is resolution 1244, clearly Serbia won since Resolution 1244 clearly states that Kosovo will remain Serbian. Clinton had no choice but to agree to that condition because NATO did not want to dare fight the Serbs on the ground, the result would have been 10 times worse then what is going on in Iraq today. So much for your smug "what happened in the end!

Mike

pre 17 godina

See, this is the reason why people like Ceku should only be allowed to enter a house of government as a tourist with a camera, and not as a leader. He needs to learn how to play by the rules, or not play at all. If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified.

Ceku, consider your statement your yellow card.

luciano

pre 17 godina

The legalist Europeans have come across a Russian and Chinese stone wall in the UNSC.A new formula must be presented by the EU which deals with LONG term stability in all of Europe.Kosovo is just one of many areas needing autonomy but secession cannot be endorsed regardless of past history and who did what to whom.5 of the 7 CEFTA countries have separatist movements and they all must be dealt with uniformly or else you will have chaos.If the Greeks and Turks are ancouraged to reconcile after their bloody past then any 2 other groups(Slavs and Romanians in Moldova,Muslims and Serbs and Croats in Bosnia,Macedonians and Albanians etc.)should also be encouraged to do the same under a European tent.The fate of Europe cannot be held hostage by threats and blackmail by any one group.

Obilic

pre 17 godina

I love when ceku gets upset..he just shows the world his true colors. The west will never give Kosovo independence, this man seems unstable to me!

Dragan

pre 17 godina

Ok this one made me laugh out loud. Agime Ceku is telling the world to sidestep the UN and change the order of international law. Does he think he is the emperor of Rome? Reality check - Agim Ceku is a KLA terrorist who is now wearing a suit, he should be in jail in any normal society, but in UN run Kosovo, he is actually an elected leader and the man that albanians look up to. We must be in a twilight zone. This gets funnier and more bizzare every day.

Princip, UK

pre 17 godina

Solan tells Ceku that there is not going to be a resolution and that the EU will not bypass the UN but Ceku still insists on telling the EU what it should do - lol!!! Solana seems to have immediately put Ceku in place and on public record so it Ceku cannot know go off and continue with lies which he has been aware of since the December visit to Moscow!

At least we have not had the "we will declare unilaterally" - seems like even Ceku has given up on that bluff!!

kate

pre 17 godina

Mike: "If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

Not if you play for Chelsea!

laster

pre 17 godina

u guys are not leaving in the real world. Everyone including ur Kostunica knows Kosova is independant. Even if it stays the way it is, what do u think? Do u really think Kosova is a serbian province the way it is. Do u really believe serb soldiers and police would ever put their feet inside Kosova?
From Tirana with Love

Matthew

pre 17 godina

Laster,
I don’t think many of us care if Serbian soldiers are stationed in Kosovo or not, as long as our population there is safe. Everyone here keeps telling you guys that we support autonomy and the right for you to rule yourselves in Kosovo. That is exactly why the Serbian government supports maintaining the status quo for now, we can live with the current situation. If you believe Kosovo is already independent, then what is the big hurry? Why all the concerns over possible violence and Albanians losing patience? Why not maintain the status quo forever then? We're cool with it, and you all seem to believe its independence.
You try to claim Kosovo is already "independent", well I can make just as strong an argument that Kosovo is already "partitioned".
Many of you make the claim that because of humanitarian reasons that Kosovo should be independent. I say that the ratio of Serb victims to Albanian victims mirrors the population exactly and that the Albanians were the last ones to engage in violence (twice in fact) so we have just as much right to partition Kosovo based on humanitarian grounds as you do in asking for Independence.
All Ceku will accomplish by side stepping the UN is partition. If he so chooses to do so in that fashion, the end result will be to set back Kosovo's entry into the EU and scare off investors. We must work together in order to find a lasting peaceful solution that will not set a negative precedent in how these issues are handled in all the other countries facing very similar problems. We must show the international community that we both have the political maturity to be considered positive influences on the EU as a whole. If we do not, it will spell the end of the EU at some point in the future.
The fact is 50% of the Serbian population do not support joining the EU if it means giving up Kosovo. The International Community should seriously consider this.

JHam

pre 17 godina

the un is the reason why serbs forces are no longer in kosovo and now PM Ceku says to side step the UN. LOL where does he the all the funding comes from for Kosovo.

luciano

pre 17 godina

The status quo is great for Serbia.The EU administers Kosovo for the next 50 years and gets all the blame when after all that time Kosovo will still not be economically qualified to join the EU.The ownership deed given to Serbia in 1912 way before Yugoslavia even existed cannot be revoked and the legalist Europeans know this.

spunky

pre 17 godina

Mike
"If we're supposed to believe that his government can manage Kosovo better than Serbs, then the first thing he needs to do, as leader of one of the most underdeveloped regions of Europe is to start following the rules of the game. If I start playing American football when everyone else is playing European football, I'm going to be disqualified."

I wonder why Kosovo is Eurpes mos underdeveloped region! Mike? The serbs ran it for 100 yerars didnt they? besides isnt Kosovo supposed to be a serbian craddle of civilisation?
Hey Mike i think this football thing you mentioned applies to you not to Ceku. wake up and think rational my friend! Kosovo will be independent very soon!

laki NY

pre 17 godina

Princip this is for you

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070711/wl_afp/kosovoserbiaeu_070711174059

I am eagerly waiting for you to read that article and make it sounds like EU said NO no NO no no no to independence. Entertain the board mr Pricnip.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

Dragan, this one made me laugh out loud also for the same reason. Also if he thinks the U.S. will sidestep the UN now with the mess it made by sidestepping international law to invade Iraq this man is delirious.

Yaroslav

pre 17 godina

laster,
If Kosovo stays part of Serbia it would fall under the Serbian governments formula "more then autonomy, less then independence" and the most likely outcome of this would be something like the Aland Islands in Finland. Those islands are a Finnish province where over 90% of the population is Swede, they are demilitarized entirely, have their own police, most Finnish laws do not apply their (they have their own laws), it also has some degree of autonomy in international instituations (something Kosovo would have to a larger degree if it were to stay part of Serbia). Now using your logic these islands are not part of Finland, but everyone knows that due to international law that has existed since the treaty of Westphalia they are.

Jovan

pre 17 godina

"to laster":

if it stays the way it is, there is no need for serbian troops to go in! the european union will supervise the k-albanians autonomy what means they will rule themselves, and that´s it.

there it goes, the naive dream of "greater Albania"...

from CIVILIZED europe with love,
J.

papajohn

pre 17 godina

Ceku is not a politician and should never be taken seriously. He is an ex-army officer, and probable war criminal. He was set up by the US, because he was the safest and most reliable person to follow their orders. Otherwise, I'm sure they would turn him over to the Hague. There are arrest warrants out for him. I believe he will eventually have to deal with that.

Whatever he says, is just to pacify the Albanians in Kosovo, and to save his own rear. Honestly, does this guy really look like a knowledgable and credible politician?

GSP

pre 17 godina

Can you believe this guy? Ceku really thinks anyone will take him seriously? Please - that's like letting a bull run through a china factory.

To Dragan's comment - you are right! He IS a KLA terrorist & should be put in prison.

Next -

louie

pre 17 godina

Dear Mike,I always read your comments.They are very interesting and 99%fair.I agree with you on some things but I think Mr.Ceku is right when he questioned the credibility of UN.They are becoming a joke!
Almost a year ago somebody from UN said the Kosova/o status will be decided in ...
So I understand where Mr.Ceku is coming from,he needs to raise the voice because Kosovan Albanians are fed up with this situation!!!
For me he never was my choice as PM.He has respect in Kosova/o but he was to "involved" with Serbs,even though the Serbs killed his father,etc.He holds the Croatian Passport and people like myself who hold a British Passport are not good enough for Kosova/o.
I always liked Mr.Veton Surroi,his dad was an Yougoslavian Ambassador and was killed somehow mysteriously!!!
MR.Surroi was never in KLA,he has "connections" in the politics(recently met with Mr.Bush in Prague)so for me he is an ideal leader for Kosovan Albanians.
Who made Mr.Ceku a PM only God knows.
A President is OK.Mr.F.Sejdiu is a fantastic president.
The biggest problem is that nobody is asking them what they think.They(UN and US)told them to be patient and everything is going to be allright,but that is not happening,at the moment Serbia and Russia are winning!!!
In Kosova/o situation there is a big difference for American People,while in Iraq and Afghanistan the people dislike them,in Kosova/o they will be their heroes.And I think the Americans at the moment need every support they can get in international arena.
So for a born Kosovan Albanian I am greatful that we have friends like US and UK,what the future holds for us,only GOD knows.Cheerio.

Driton

pre 17 godina

Who cares about Agim Ceku, he is a puppet. The real boss is elsewhere. Go Tirana. You are our heart. We are with you. Do you know that lek is one of the local currencies in use now in Kosova alongside with euro? Do you know that albanian products are gaining more and more terrain every day in Kosova (we love Glina water and even Coca Cola is imported now from the albanian establishment)? Do you know that albanian music productions and TV shows are now the most popular in Kosova (Portokalli rocks)? Do you know that albanian national soccer team have its best fans in Kosova (Edmond Kapllani for president)? Who needs that formal "greater Albania"? We already have it. From Peja with love :)

Vuk

pre 17 godina

Unfortunatly Ceku and his friends will be very sweaty as soon as the west decides to withdraw support for Kosovo, because there is litrally no other country in real terms that supports the "greater Albania" idea, and when that time comes the Serbs will carry out justice.
There will be no more persecution of Serbs, there will be no more threats from the KLA, there will be no Albanian indicted war criminals running the country, get ready for the future guys!

If justice is carried out then the Serbs will prosper.

Valdet, Vushtrri

pre 17 godina

JOVAN: "from CIVILIZED europe with love"
If you mean Western Europe, than forget it. Just see the map of Western Civilization borders on Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations". Due to that, your country (Serbia) belongs to another part of civilization.

To YAROSLAV :
Maybe Aland Islands in Finland are demilitarized entirely, but Kosova has it's police forces armed even with automatic rifles, KPC(ex KLA)Guard also armed with Simonova rifles(7.62 or 7.65 mm rifles, while it's Military Police are carrying AK 47 and pistols 9mm. Due to the Ahtisari plan, Kosova will have it's armed Security Forces. Remember the taxes that 100% are going to Kosova budget (non to the Serbian), School curriculums different from Serbia and similar to Albania. Your story for Aland Islands, is like a title of Thomas More book "Uthopia".

Olf

pre 17 godina

Ceku is right. NATO intervention did not need UNSC resolution, same can do for Independence. After 120 days of negotiating if no solution for Serbia to accept the Independence is found than Kosova declare the independence, these are the signs given from the entire world except Serbia. Surprising, this time Russia did not automatically say no to the new draft.
Break thru is on the way, yes. Of course that time is needed and we have the time.
All it matters is not to be living in the same country with terrorist, rapper killers of Serbian regime, the is acceptable.

Cvele

pre 17 godina

Olf, Valdette...

Understand that Serbia has stood up to NATO bombardment for 78 days and a meer 8% of the military was eliminated. Mainly old and immobile units. Serbia is quite capable of securing its own borders with Kosovo. As for why Russia didnt reply right away to the new draft. Simple, they wanted to get drunk and laugh at how many ways america is able to verbaly mask independence. In hopes Russia will not see through it. Independence seekers... Taiwan is more likely to gain independence then you.

Tirons

pre 17 godina

It seems waiting for Russia is useless at this time. Kosova's government should declare unilateral independence. Other countries (including Serbia) will have to eventually accept the will of the people of Kosova. Enough dealing with Serbia and their corrupt Russian supporters. Kosova deserves its freedom.

nyoutlawyer

pre 17 godina

I can't stand it anymore. I realize that English is not the mother tongue of many commentators here but, please look some words up before you use them. You must have goole.com available, or something similar. The people that keep referring to "Serbian rappers committing crimes against Albanians", is the funniest of all. Rappers sing Rap music. I think you are trying to say "Rapists"? Anyway, did the KLA rap also while they raped Serbian women, Olf?

Canadien

pre 17 godina

laki,

The news link you posted is ridiculous, first its from Yahoo! WOW a serious source for news! Second it does not name any names, "a European source" it says, that's absolutely ridicules, anyone can be a European source, even you! by the way for less then a couple of thousand dollars anyone can post a Yahoo story! Show me something from a leading and legitimate news source. And did you hear, Russia said NO again. Its not looking good my friend.

Olf

pre 17 godina

Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?
I could have stand against Mike Tyson in a ring easily, of course only once, but what would have happened to me. I would be crazy to go out and fight him again since I would know the result.
Looks like you are not aware what power can do. Thanks god that Serbian military has learned lessons.

Canadien

pre 17 godina

Olf said > "Yes Cvele I understand that Serbia stood against NATO but what happened at the end I forgot. Could you please remind me?

What happened Olf is resolution 1244, clearly Serbia won since Resolution 1244 clearly states that Kosovo will remain Serbian. Clinton had no choice but to agree to that condition because NATO did not want to dare fight the Serbs on the ground, the result would have been 10 times worse then what is going on in Iraq today. So much for your smug "what happened in the end!