Serb mayors in north resign, cut communication with Pristina

"The second point states that the declaration is signed because of continuous violence, the beatings of Serbs, the unlawful arrests and an attempt to kill Milan Radoicic, which also jeopardizes the right to life to Serbs in Kosovo. "

Sounds like sloba in the 90s, we all know how that story ended. Good luck Serbs

don't let the door hit you on the way out

And people blame Croats for Oluja! If they didn't remove Serbs from Krajina they would have witnessed the same story over and over again we witness in Kosova and Bosnia on daily basis.

Wow. None of them resigned when Ivanovic was murdered while opposing the SNS Srpska List, but now they resign in solidarity with the murder suspect.

Inevitable that sane people want to dissociate from a dysgunctional fenced-in ghetto. Heck, even the EU doesn’t want to grant Pristina’s bigots visa-liberalization.

Fortunately Fix, we are not in the 90s anymore although I know Albanians still think we are. In fact, most haven't even left the 90s.

Brilliant it’s about time they did it by their own as they are responsible for the crimes in north.All of you in Serbia it’s the time to say NO to these criminals as they getting reacher and reacher on the Serbs and Albanians back and These are direct responsible for deaths that happened in North,He knows how killed ivanovich,Next is For Prishtina to open the election on these places and these 4 mayors to take the right not to stand again and send them to jail and to allow proper people to be elected.Its time to tell these enough is enough as Law and order will be in ordered in north.

Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis. Do the bigots in Pristina do the same? Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?

Russia, like the EU, has a visa-free agreement with Serbia, which includes residents from KiM who have Serbian passports.

Have my answers fixed your (mis)understanding of the visa-free travel between EU, Serbia and Russia.

I will reword my previous statement as i wont come through.

What they are trying to do with the 100% tax on Serbian goods is an attempt at forced displacement of the Serbian people within kosovo. This is a policy to remove an unwanted group of people and a form of ethnic cleansing through economic means. What they accuse us to be, this is what they prove to be themselves. Instead of forcing people out by the bullet they will try to do with the coin.

Lying is a serb thing! Twisting the truth its a serb thing! They went to arrest Radicic as a suspect of killing Ivanovic... well, no according to serbs they tried to kill him!!!
Now, just imagine what they did during 90's and what was told to you guys(victims of never knowing the truth)or tried to be told to the world!
This simply tells the whole story!
Sad!!!!!

As if those “mayors” actually did any work other than work with the mafia and Serbian government as middle men. Lol!

Serbs are such scumbags. Nobody cares if you remained on the job or quit...Kosovar government is cleaning up the problem. 100% tariffs is only the beginning. Serbs won’t know what’s coming until it actually happens, element of surprise in full effect! MAXIMUM PRESSURE 100%

@zhukov

Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?

Good move!
The resignation of the Serbian mayor's from the so called Kosovaaaa* government and leaving the “Pristina system” is in effect a unilateral act of independence!

The terrorists Pristina have lost the North!
Great move :)

I wonder what the shiptars will do now? Lol

"the 100% tax on Serbian goods is an attempt at forced displacement of the Serbian people within Kosovo"
(Nema)

What sense does that make "genius"? The tariffs are impacting all Kosova citizens the same. I've said it many times before, Serbs need to educate themselves. Serbian ignorance is one of the greatest threats to peace and stability in the region.

These mayors are sell-outs to the Mafia and organized crime and the law will deal with them accordingly. They will be quickly replaced. There are many other Serbs and Albanians that are willing to take their place.
Since you don't like to live in peace and want "frozen conflicts" that's what you will get. And sometimes frozen conflicts unfreeze, so they better not try something else stupid.

These mayors are sell-outs to the Mafia and organized crime and the law will deal with them accordingly. They will be quickly replaced. There are many other Serbs and Albanians that are willing to take their place.
Since you don't like to live in peace and want "frozen conflicts" that's what you will get. And sometimes frozen conflicts unfreeze, so they better not try something else stupid.
(Genti, 27 November 2018 14:42)

@ gentiaj - If you're realistic for one minute, you'll see that the situation has completely turned....now You're the Milosevic looking to tamp down Srb "resistence"...yet you were screaming bloody murder when Milosevic was trying to do the same with Albanian "resistence"....
YOUR cause is JUST, right? Well, genius...the Srbs think THEIR cause is JUST! Now what?
This is why the "world powers" love to start this kinda stuff, play "peacemakers" and end up controlling things....

Lying is a serb thing! Twisting the truth its a serb thing! They went to arrest Radicic as a suspect of killing Ivanovic... well, no according to serbs they tried to kill him!!!
Now, just imagine what they did during 90's and what was told to you guys(victims of never knowing the truth)or tried to be told to the world!
This simply tells the whole story!
Sad!!!!!
(Burim, 27 November 2018 14:15

Burim,

Organ trafficking is an Albanian thing, drug trafficking is an Albanian thing, Stealing is an Albanian thing, Cowardice is an Albanian thing, Terrorism is an Albanian thing, Welfare is an Albanian thing, Land theft is an Albanian thing - so, a little white lie doesn't compare, does it?!?!?

Opet pale raju, a raja ko raja. Možeš sa njom kako hoćeš. Kada se približilo otkrivanje ko je ubica i naručilac ubistva Ivanovića Beograd pravi haos i gura sirotinju u prve redove i štiti ove poštene gradonačelnike što podnesoše ostavke. A šta ste drugo očekivali posle povratka radikala i socijalista na vlast. Da nema NATO-a već koliko sutra bi izbio rat.
(Peace brother, 27. novembar 2018 14:27)

Burim,

Organ trafficking is an Albanian thing, drug trafficking is an Albanian thing, Stealing is an Albanian thing, Cowardice is an Albanian thing, Terrorism is an Albanian thing, Welfare is an Albanian thing, Land theft is an Albanian thing - so, a little white lie doesn't compare, does it?!?!?
(Chi, 27 November 2018 17:08) # Comm

My dear neighbour “Chi”

If you think what I said is a little white lie, then you have been very well brain washed... I understand though, you never heard the truth before 90’s and remind me was Srebrenica a Albanian thing, was Reqak Albanian thing, was Vukovar Albanian...?
Then again Chetniks war crimes during the Second World War were primarily directed towards the non-Serbian population of Yugoslavia (mainly Muslims and Croats) and Communist-led Yugoslav Partisans and their supporters. Since their establishment in 1903, Chetniks had been instrumental to the nationalist and expansionist politics of Serbia. They acted to preserve the centralized Greater Serbian political system, is this Albanians trying to steal land???
Human trafficing is a Russian-Serbian hoax, but because we are not laiers we accepted this to be judged, the Kosova Assambly voted to do so(this would never happen in Serbia, you are afraid others to know who you actualy are).

@Genti

I think it unfortunate that you had to resort to name calling, I would have liked to see your arguments against my statement. No where in my comment did I said that I dindt want to see peace and prosperity in the province of Kosovo. But the law it isnt something you can resort to only when it favors yourself and denounce it when it doesn’t.

But back to the tarrifs, it is on all products which is a volioti

@USA
Read about this before you spill your toxic accusations. The only country that got into a civil war by a ponzi scheme.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Civil_War

Opet pale raju, a raja ko raja. Možeš sa njom kako hoćeš. Kada se približilo otkrivanje ko je ubica i naručilac ubistva Ivanovića Beograd pravi haos i gura sirotinju u prve redove i štiti ove poštene gradonačelnike što podnesoše ostavke. A šta ste drugo očekivali posle povratka radikala i socijalista na vlast. Da nema NATO-a već koliko sutra bi izbio rat.
(Peace brother, 27. novembar 2018 14:27)
(Avni, 27 November 2018 15:27)

@ avniaj - eto, vidis? Da nisu albanci sa natom ukrali nasu svetu zemlju, nebi ovom putu sve islo...a kao sad su "srbi" krivi, jel?
Vratite nasu KiM I popravice se sve to...lopovi, kad tad, cedu naci pravdu;)

Of course they cut ties ...their ties to organized & disorganized crime are coming to an end .Kosova police force doing a great job.
That's why they didn't want kosova in Interpol bcs that would mean 100's of more arrests of Mayors and crime associates/family

Srpska lista demantuje da Srbi izlaze iz svih kosovskih institucija
http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/kosovo/95538/srpska-lista-demantuje-da-srbi-izlaze-iz-svih-kosovskih-institucija

Chi the brain washer ignorant:

Do you have any clue why the International Community (NATO) bombed you for 78 beautiful days and nights !

Since you don’t then it’s obvious you never learned your lesson.

And the lesson was CRIME DOESNT PAY!

Skipping school and you seen how far it has gotten you ......
(Azir, 28 November 2018 02:30

You're so cute Azir! Yes, I do have a clue, and it's only one reason. The US/West's major fear of Russia. They needed an air base in the proximity of KiM and I'm sure that they concluded that Serbia would never allow it because of their historic ties to Russia. But, and this is a big butt, they found the weak link in the Balkans, yes the KiM Albanians. Weak, easy to manipulate, don't have to give them much, and evaluated as an easy puppet state. It's pretty evident that you people were hoodwinked by the US because you've received zero help from them since they built Bondsteel. No industry, no investment to speak of, and no schools - the last one is self-evident since I can see the lack of education level from the people in this forum, you in particular Azir.

"Nowhere _ did I said I dindt want to see peace and prosperity in the province of Kosovo."
(Nema)
Not sure what you mean: if you mean "province of Serbia", then you want war, because we both know only a devastating war could ever make Kosovo a province of Serbia. If you mean "province of Albania", then you may be more realistic. Belgrade politicians can boast that they never recognized Kosovo and Albanians can unite peacefully. It's a win-win.

Your arguments "forcefully displace Serbs" have no merit. Kosovo Serbs can buy from other sources, there is no shortage of anything in Kosovo. If they want to buy from Serbia they have to pay the price, but that is their choice. It's not "forced displacement".

@gentiaj - If you're realistic..You're the Milosevic looking to tamp down Srb "resistence"
(Watcher)

Sure I'm realistic, but you are too brainwashed to even begin to understand the level of repression Kosovo Albanians suffered during Milosevic's regime. Comparing that to the situation of Serbs in Kosovo is far from realistic. The difference is Kosovo is a democratic country with the most advanced minority rights in Europe. The fact that present-day Serbia (who pretends to be an aspiring civilized country) doesn't give the same rights to Albanians in Presheva shows the disparity even 20 years after Milosevic. You can't even compare both countries today, let alone during Milosevic.

Then again Chetniks war crimes during the Second World War were primarily directed towards the non-Serbian population of Yugoslavia (mainly Muslims and Croats) (Burim, 27 November 2018 21:57)

What crimes are you talking about Burek? The Chetnik movement was a reaction to the invasion of Yugoslavia by Nazi Germany of which Albania was part of the Axis of evil and declared war on the US. It was led by Draza Mihailovic, a true hero awarded the legion of merit by US president Harry S. Truman, betrayed by Churchill and Tito's Partisans. Albanians as part of the Nazi Axis of Evil, invaded Greece and Kosovo and massacred thousands of civilians including Orthodox Priests. The only crime Chetniks committed was pulling back from killing German soldiers, retribution was 100 civilians executed for every German solider killed, Tito ignored it as his only goal was to seize power at any cost just like the Albanian Nazi's.

Chi the brain washer ignorant:

Do you have any clue why the International Community (NATO) bombed you for 78 beautiful days and nights !

Since you don’t then it’s obvious you never learned your lesson.

And the lesson was CRIME DOESNT PAY!

Skipping school and you seen how far it has gotten you ......

Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?
(Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

It’s the EU who doesn’t have anything to boast about because it’s residents do not have visa-free travel to Russia.

but then you overreach when you claim that Pristina follows Germany's orders. It is okay to talk about influence and discuss the extent of German sway in Kosovo. But your comments go far beyond that, somewhere off into distant space.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

The only display of “distant space” in this exchange is in JS’ head. Reading and comprehension of the English language is obviously a difficult task for JS.
Fact #31: I asked a series of questions, I did not “claim”.
Fact #32: JS does not understand the difference between a “claim” and a “question”.
Fact #33: I first asked “do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU?”. Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto.

Brilliant it’s about time they did it by their own as they are responsible for the crimes in north.All of you in Serbia it’s the time to say NO to these criminals as they getting reacher and reacher on the Serbs and Albanians back and These are direct responsible for deaths that happened in North,He knows how killed ivanovich,Next is For Prishtina to open the election on these places and these 4 mayors to take the right not to stand again and send them to jail and to allow proper people to be elected.Its time to tell these enough is enough as Law and order will be in ordered in north.
(The Truth,

@ truthaj - Milosevic? Is that you? We thought you were dead....

I would suggest in case of escalation and violence, we beat the politicians on both sides with some sticks to make themself feel the consequences of keeping up hate and fear. They are not the once that will suffer in a conflict. So guys in Pristina prepare to beat up your scumbags and in Belgrade may happen the same.

It will be ordinary people that suffer. And the side that will lose an armed conflict will have much more civilians suffering, none of the sides is better than the other in case of winning.
Better 100 half dead beaten politicians than 1000s of suffering civilians.

Shame on Vucic as he was put on power to moderate his political views not going back to his ancestor Milosevic era.!!what does it have to for one student in Belgrade the mayors in kosova turns down their job? Instead of their leader taking the country to eu is talking sensless nationalist propoganda how to goght with Kosova.You have lost it once for all.Not because you have had it before but Big powers gave it to you in 1913 with the help of Russians.So better shut it down you sick ideas as they will semd another 50 years back in Economy and poverty.Look at your neighbours croatians or slovenians or austrians!!! They are at least 25 years ahead of us albanians and serbians too.Wake up true serbians as we arent comjng to your people and kicking out of your houses as we albanians experienced by your Sick leaders.

"Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis. Do the bigots in Pristina do the same? Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?

Russia, like the EU, has a visa-free agreement with Serbia, which includes residents from KiM who have Serbian passports.

Have my answers fixed your (mis)understanding of the visa-free travel between EU, Serbia and Russia." (Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries. The fact that Pristina allows EU citizens visa-free entry but doesn't receive visa-free entry to EU countries (reciprocity) is the point of your argument. You have a point -- though it isn't a very strong point because Pristina could simply get upset and cut off visa-free travel which could be seen either as a strength or weakness, depending on a person's perspective -- but then you overreach when you claim that Pristina follows Germany's orders. It is okay to talk about influence and discuss the extent of German sway in Kosovo. But your comments go far beyond that, somewhere off into distant space.

@Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)

hm, let me think about that. 40 years of peace? Big misery.
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 18:53)

Tito laid the seeds for the destruction of Yugoslavia.

This is what your hero left behind;

Contents:
1.Wash. Post, April 3, 1981; Yugoslavs Take Emergency Steps In Face of Ethnic Disturbance
2.The Economist, April 11, 1981; Yugoslavia; Home-grown Bother
3.NY Times, April 19, 1981; One Storm Passed, Others Gathering in Yugoslavia
4.Christian Science Monitor (CSM); May 7, 1981; Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge?
5.AP; Oct. 23, 1981; Minorities Leaving Yugoslav Province Dominated by Albanians
6.CSM, Dec. 16, 1981; Why turbulent Kosovo has marble sidewalks but troubled industries
7.Financial Times, Feb. 5, 1982; Police fail to crush resistance in Kosovo
8.Financial Times, June 1, 1982; Kosovo riots jolt the regions
9.NY Times, July 12, 1982; Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia
10.Facts on File World News Digest; September 10, 1982; Serbs in Kosovo Exodus

"Fact#34...Fact#35"

Yep, thoughts do emerge from one's brain and, yes, if you have a problem with the substance of what I comment feel free to bring it to my attention. But, please, only if a person has something constructive to say.

"From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement?
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Well according to JS, this is a “rhetorical question”..."

It was not a rhetorical question. It provided you the opportunity to explain why you think they should -- within their own frame of thinking -- "honor" the agreement reached by a government that they consider a neighboring country. But first you really need to convince them that KiM is an integral part of Serbia. Until then you are only criticizing and venting frustration, not making a sound case for them to change their mind.

"Fact#36: “Fix” asked whether Russia had visa-free travel to the EU?
Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al..." (Zhukov, 29 November 2018 05:13)

Your response was wholly inadequate. A simple "yes" or "no" is sufficient. Then explanatory notes are welcome. But, again, you reveal your racism when you equate Germans so closely with Nazis and Croatians with Ustashe but don't find us Serbs worthy of examination. I guess you believe in the "heavenly Serbia" nonsense.

Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al. My response was not a question, rhetorical or otherwise, it was an unambiguous statement. Please learn to read and comprehend the English language.
(Zhukov, 29 November 2018 05:13)

Your response had something about "nazis" which in the current situation (soon-to-be-2019) has no sense.

Your response was quite silly because before 1991 Soviet Union had no visa regime with the GDR.

Same with Yugoslavia. At that time more nazis from WW-II were alive in GDR and on the territory of Croatia than today.

The responses were poor. I did not rate them - but they were poor.

The same time, today there are more descents of nazis in Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil than in Germany and Croatia combined.

Still, citizens of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil do not need visa to Russia.

Do you know how "difficult" is to get a passport in Paraguay? $5000 in the bank, Spanish language lessons, food costing about 1/3 than in Croatia and wait 3 years.

I am not talking about property or rental prices 1/3 or 1/2 of Croatia or Russia or any other place here nearby.

What would cost a real nazi to get access to the entire Russia for free?
A passport from Paraguay.

Please, do not spread brain disease here, we have Tom, Azir & Co. doing an excellent job.

I would rather see some pressure on our dear politicians regarding visas.

But first you really need to convince them that KiM is an integral part of Serbia. Until then you are only criticizing and venting frustration, not making a sound case for them to change their mind.
(JS, 29 November 2018 18:13)

I am not a KLA accomplice who is convinced by, or convinces, these criminals.
You may be surprised to learn that the bigoted, apartheid separatists in Pristina are irrational evil criminals. They should be arrested and prosecuted for their crimes. That NATO and other accomplices have sponsored and protected these racist bigots, is a fact I will continue to emphasize until the KLA - NATO axis of evil join their WWII Nazi predecessors on the dust heap of history.

But, again, you reveal your racism when you equate Germans so closely with Nazis and Croatians with Ustashe but don't find us Serbs worthy of examination. I guess you believe in the "heavenly Serbia" nonsense.
(JS, 29 November 2018 18:13)

The “close” association of many Germans with Nazis, and many Croats with Ustashe is a recent historical fact. It is undeniable, unless of course your are a “Serb” named JS.
The revival of Ustashe and Nazism in today’s Croatia (like Bandera-loving racists in Ukraine) is also undeniable, unless of course you are “Serb” named JS.
I have not witnessed the composition of heaven, but I do know there are evil people on this earth such as the KLA, NATO, (as well as their apologists and accomplices, some of whom claim to be Serbs) who support the apartheid separation of a multiethnic Serbia.
My view about heaven does not negate the extent and magnitude of evil on earth in places such as Croatia, Ukraine, the Pristina ghetto, and the support this evil receives from Germany/USA and the so called “west”. Your denial of this fact and your attempt to deflect this evil with comments about your supposed ethnicity or some “heavenly Serbia” clearly expose your racism.

Would those kind labels apply to Serbs or Russians in any way"..."By the way, I am still wondering if Serbs or Russians are worthy of examination...
(JS, 1 December 2018 18:40)

I did examine policies from both Serbia and Russia. Neither Serbia, nor Russia support the bigoted apartheid separatist in Pristina. In fact, the KLA terrorists are mainly sponsored and supported by NATO, USA and the so called "west". Just like the USA/NATO/German axis supports the bandera-loving neo-Nazis in Ukraine. You apparently don't have a calendar to realize this revival of evil is occurring in 2018.

Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 12:48)

Smart comment by a Communist, Tito stole the name Yugoslavia. Fitting , his Communist goons also stole the country and robbed the civilians after the war. How could these so called Marxists afford to live in Dedijne including Milos Minic, the lawyer of the show trials of Draza Mihailovic. In one way it was fitting to see Milosevich sit through The Hague sponsored show trials to bring back memories of Tito’s show trials and purges of all nationalities in Yugoslavia.

>>It was a three-year multiple-entry.
>>Yes, it allowed a six month stay.
>>In effect, by leaving the country
>>six times a person could live in
>>Russia for three years!
(JS, 28 November 2018 19:03)

100% correct answer, thanks.

>>In Belgrade. What surprised me the most
>>is that I had to bring an original
>>notarized copy of property in the United States.

Again, a 100% correct answer, thanks.
AFAIK, this is done in Houston and Belgrade ONLY.

I am curious, what happens if someone does
not have any property in the States.

The rules vary from consulate to consulate
because the visa treaty gives the consul a backdoor.

If a consul has a pet idea, he will implement it.
The best is to call the consulate ahead of time
and confirm, what they are asking for.


>>They just seemed very skeptical about the validity of my visa.
>>I don't know why.

Incompetence.
Many border guards do not know, the 3-year visa exists at all.
Typical, we have same story. But at least they tell us.


>>Maybe because it was issued without a picture on it
>>(which seemed unusual to me too).
>>Maybe they didn't like my beard!

Correct observation. In the U.S. the visas are issued
usually without pictures.
It looks, like the consulate in Belgrade works the similar
way as the one in Houston.

I was surprised, in some EU countries they would stamp
a visa with a picture - even if the previous one
(issued in the States) was without it.

I agree completely. The people are nice but the bureaucracy is pure madness.
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

One small mistake and you are ready to be milked to death.
Example: forgetting to renew the passport while living abroad.


If about any kind of paperwork, HU seem to be more "heavy-weight" than either US or RU. Maybe because the small mosquito is more aggressive than the big elephant.

Mostly insults here. Very little substance.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Fact#34: The term “distant space” is from JS’s head.
Fact#35: If you have a problem with the substance of a JS comment, please bring it to the attention of JS.

From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement?
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Well according to JS, this is a “rhetorical question”, which in turn we conclude is statement from an Albanian that Pristina bigots want to maintain Serbia’s reciprocity of visa free travel with EU.

And by answering "fix" with a row of questions.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Fact#36: “Fix” asked whether Russia had visa-free travel to the EU?
Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al. My response was not a question, rhetorical or otherwise, it was an unambiguous statement. Please learn to read and comprehend the English language.

@Jugoslavija: you really want to make communists responsible for the crimes of nationalists? Never mind albanian, bosnian, croatian, serbian,...
Sorry but that seed was there already in the 1930s. Communists holded it down, unfortunately they got undermined by nationalists and were to soft to the nationalists. And the blood in the 90s is on the hands of nationalists. Unfortunately this guys are still at power and preach hate.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

"The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia." The KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia wanted apartheid separatist states. The latter are more at fault, than the "Serbs", unless you are an accomplice of the separatists, like JS.
(Zhukov, 3 December 2018 19:25)


You probably won't believe me but I read somewhere that "Tito is dead." Maybe it's just a rumour...
(JS, 3 December 2018 22:59)

As an accomplice of the bigoted apartheid separatists, JS is completely ignorant to the fact that in the 1990s Tito had nothing to do with the "fault" of the KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia who wanted apartheid separatist states.

I asked you about the general culpability of the Serbs and you cite a single instance 
(JS, 3 December 2018 23:06)

No, I in fact responded clearly about the 1990s wars and the undeniable "general" culpability of the KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia who wanted apartheid separatist states. Yes we know this fact is incomprehensible to JS, whose lame response invoking Tito, doesn't acquit his accomplices of the "general" culpability for the wars in the 90s.


Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis.
Do the bigots in Pristina do the same?
(Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

I believe, that the pro capita ratio of nazis in Western Ukraine was higher than in Germany or Croatia.

At least, most Germans and Croatians today have valid excuse, like age.
Still, all Ukrainians can visit Russia without visa. And with many of them the age is not an excuse, the "nazi" thing seem to be re-born.
That's what I would call "bigot".

On the other hand JS recently visited Russia.
It would be interesting to learn about his side of story with the visa.
When it was? Political wind changes - but we aren't THAT bad, right?

@Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 12:48)

Stfu commie...
Your nick is the main cause for all the post WW2 misery in the Balkans, including the 90's

"On the other hand JS recently visited Russia.
It would be interesting to learn about his side of story with the visa.
When it was? Political wind changes - but we aren't THAT bad, right?" (Honcho, 28 November 2018 02:14)

I enjoyed each visit. I got the five year multiple entry visa. But after I got Serbian citizenship that visa was no longer necessary. I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa, and my first time in the country I was thoroughly screened at passport control in Moscow. But it was worth the hassle. I hope to visit the Old Believers sometime. That should be very interesting!

"The only display of “distant space” in this exchange is in JS’ head. Reading and comprehension of the English language is obviously a difficult task for JS.
Fact #31: I asked a series of questions, I did not “claim”.
Fact #32: JS does not understand the difference between a “claim” and a “question”.
Fact #33: I first asked “do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU?”. Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto." (Zhukov, 28 November 2018 10:30)

Mostly insults here. Very little substance.

From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement? I am not trying to support the Albanian position; I just don't understand why you would expect them to think like a Serb.

And by answering "fix" with a row of questions, I think it fair to conclude that those were rhetorical questions, in other words, statements.

>>I got the five year multiple entry visa.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Wow, how on Planet Earth you could do that?
Only EU citizens can get a 5-year visa and only a business one.
Visas issued to Americans are - by the way - much better than any visa free regime because you can stay 6 months instead of only max. 90 days.

>>I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Which ones and on which consulate you did it?

>>I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

The number of documents in US except Houston or an average EU country, or in Ukraine is now not that big.


The screening is tough if they suspect, you are traveling on business - but use the tourist visa. And it's done by customs because if you have excessive equipment with you, different customs fees do apply.
Like having two cameras for a tourist is OK, having cases of pro equipment is not.

For me two years ago at the airport three cameras and one large desktop computer in a suitcase was OK - but a lot of questions from customs.

On a different trip: having a brand-new car full of household items was fine. In the theory, the weight of all household is limited to 50kg.
They let me through without questions.

But after I got Serbian citizenship that visa was no longer necessary
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Maybe fine if you do not have a car. But for most returnees from United States the local citizenship is a burden, not a blessing.

Keyword: car registration and fees. Nothing political.

The #1 import item every single American takes to his new-old country from the States is the car.

The only exception which can be tolerated more-less is Russia. At least Russians decided to get in bed with Nissan, siblings of some "Lada"-s can be found in the States under "Nissan" nickname and the price of a Lada with automatic (can't drive stick shift!) is kind of OK.

But who was that Serbian genius who sold his soul to FIAT?
That's the worst car in the States, no one buys it.

I tried that THING as a U.S. model and immediately returned it. Thanks FIAT - but no thanks. Understand, in Serbia it's much cheaper and maybe with stick shift and without Federal Crash Test Certificate it drives better.

I rather stick to automatic and Federal Crash Certificate.

Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto.
(Zhukov, 28 November 2018 10:30)

Pardon me. There is not a single direct proof, KLA is ideological accomplice of JS.

I accept at the face value the statement of you both, that you are Americans - and have three farms in Serbia and/or Russia.

What I am doing is exchange of experience. No political crap.

Being a Central European and Russian and American may be seen as a huge benefit. But the same time it is a huge burden because one has to go through a million small day-to-day chores in all these countries. Failing that, will generate a rain of paperwork and very expensive war with bureaucrats. As you understand, the paperwork-war is our daily practice, I may have some experience - but learning from you or JS is always a good idea.

My main objective: to minimize my own costs of such war with bureaucrats. Sounds reasonable?

Your nick is the main cause for all the post WW2 misery in the Balkans, including the 90's
(Miloš Obilić)
hm, let me think about that. 40 years of peace? Big misery.
Preaching brotherhood and unity and warning of nationalistic movements?very bad from communists.
Social system that functioned and enough vacations plus retirement from which people could live. Damn you yugoslavian communists for that.
The 90s hmmmm, I guess I mistakenly thought that this lunatics running around yugoslavia killing the people from other religions were nationalists (never mind bosnian, croat or serbian). Sorry my bad.
I hope you understand sarcasm

"Only EU citizens can get a 5-year visa and only a business one.
Visas issued to Americans are - by the way - much better than any visa free regime because you can stay 6 months instead of only max. 90 days."

Sorry, my mistake. It was a three-year multiple-entry. Yes, it allowed a six month stay. In effect, by leaving the country six times a person could live in Russia for three years!

"Which ones and on which consulate you did it?"

In Belgrade. What surprised me the most is that I had to bring an original notarized copy of property in the United States. That and the bank statements felt a bit invasive but they gave me a three year visa with 180 day stay per visit so I felt that was fair compensation.

"The screening is tough if they suspect, you are traveling on business - but use the tourist visa. And it's done by customs because if you have excessive equipment with you...On a different trip: having a brand-new car full of household items was fine. In the theory, the weight of all household is limited to 50kg.
They let me through without questions." (Honcho, 28 November 2018 16:22)

Interesting. They never checked my bags. They just seemed very skeptical about the validity of my visa. I don't know why. Maybe because it was issued without a picture on it (which seemed unusual to me too). Maybe they didn't like my beard! :)

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

This is only formality. To beat that idiotic set of rules you have to beat certain Russian and certain EU bureaucratic insanity.

American / Russian relationship has a slightly different set of rules. That's the other minor challenge to beat.

Once someone learned all that - the border is barely to notice.

The biggest problem is not political, but technical. More precisely the visa over-stay in the U.S.

U.S. is not equipped with kiosks to monitor the exit of visitors.

The data is just guessed, many lose their I-94-s and no one is sure about how to deal with lost I-94-s.


Here is the cold statistics for 2016:

https://tinyurl.com/yd6537ts

Notice that for Russia the over-stay rate is 1.44% with additional 1.31% travelers "disappearing", pretty much like of Spain and slightly worse than of Austia.
For Albania the same is 4.83% with additional 4.43% "disappearing". That is worse, than Angola.
For Serbia: 2.50% with additional 2.19% "disappearing".

I think that if the relations will be better, Russia will be among the prime candidates into VWP program.

Serbia is quite far from that. And Albania does not even have a remote chance.

"I accept at the face value the statement of you both, that you are Americans - and have three farms in Serbia and/or Russia."

Zhukov is American?

"Being a Central European and Russian and American may be seen as a huge benefit. But the same time it is a huge burden because one has to go through a million small day-to-day chores in all these countries. Failing that, will generate a rain of paperwork and very expensive war with bureaucrats. As you understand, the paperwork-war is our daily practice..."

I agree completely. The people are nice but the bureaucracy is pure madness.

"My main objective: to minimize my own costs of such war with bureaucrats. Sounds reasonable?"
(Honcho...)

What do you suggest? A friend recently suggested to fire lazy life-termers and replace them with friendly diligent handicapped persons who have no other reasonable job opportunities. Then we would finally have government employees that serve the people!

(Honcho, 28 November 2018 17:20)

Another hilarious post.

I don't see the need of a motor vehicle considering the extensive bus and train connections in Europe.

"I rather stick to automatic and Federal Crash Certificate." (Honcho, 28 November 2018 17:20)

It would be safer to drive a horse!

>>Zhukov is American?
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

He claimed that, I take his word. But - if by an accident - it turns out to be a lie, he will need to explain certain things.


>>I don't see the need of a motor vehicle
>>considering the extensive bus and train
>>connections in Europe
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

The public transport is much better, than in Canada or U.S. - but that is not sufficient even in Germany.

The only case if you do not need to rely on the public transportation, is if you live in the downtown area of a city.

A 2000 sq feet home with own garden in BP or Moscow downtown is nice, but you will need more, than $30K extra to the price of the same 20 miles away.

Serbia is much worse. Bus companies are a b*ch, no investment into trains since 1970, older railway cars in disgusting state.

And what about Ашан & Co?


>>It would be safer to drive a horse!
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:36)

Very trendy here and ecologically fine. But costs more, I have no place for the poor thing. And is not maintenance-free. For now let it be Nissan - Honda thing, in some sort of hybrid configuration.

What do you suggest? A friend recently suggested to fire lazy life-termers and replace them with friendly diligent handicapped persons who have no other reasonable job opportunities.
Then we would finally have government employees that serve the people!
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

The situation is very tough, in Germany barely better.
You can't find anyone for a government job, even with disability, people want better salaries and they get them easily.

Suggestion? Raise the salaries in the government sector, ASAP. That helps.

Good move!
The resignation of the Serbian mayor's from the so called Kosovaaaa* government and leaving the “Pristina system” is in effect a unilateral act of independence!

The terrorists Pristina have lost the North!
Great move :)

I wonder what the shiptars will do now? Lol
(So sad, too bad, 27 November 2018 15:50) # Comment link

This is step one in the implementation of the ZSO. Very amusing out of the 30+ comments from the Albanian this is the only comment that is relevant

"The “close” association of many Germans with Nazis, and many Croats with Ustashe is a recent historical fact."

I'm not sure if you noticed that the calendar reads "2018"?

"The revival of Ustashe and Nazism in today’s Croatia (like Bandera-loving racists in Ukraine) is also undeniable..."

I don't live there. I visit once a year and never heard of such a "revival."

"I have not witnessed the composition of heaven, but I do know there are evil people on this earth such as the KLA, NATO, (as well as their apologists and accomplices, some of whom claim to be Serbs) who support the apartheid separation of a multiethnic Serbia. My view about heaven does not negate the extent and magnitude of evil on earth in places such as Croatia, Ukraine, the Pristina ghetto, and the support this evil receives from Germany/USA and the so called “west”."

Would those kind labels apply to Serbs or Russians in any way?

"Your denial of this fact and your attempt to deflect this evil with comments about your supposed ethnicity or some “heavenly Serbia” clearly expose your racism." (Zhukov, 30 November 2018 10:06)

Actually it doesn't. It requires at bare minimum: hatred for persons of Serbian ethnicity. Which is quite difficult considering that I myself am an ethnic Serb. If you think I am wrong about recent history, at worst I would be uninformed.

By the way, I am still wondering if Serbs or Russians are worthy of examination...

" I did examine policies from both Serbia and Russia. Neither Serbia, nor Russia support the bigoted apartheid separatist in Pristina. In fact, the KLA terrorists are mainly sponsored and supported by NATO, USA and the so called "west"." (Zhukov, 3 December 2018 10:22)

You remind me of a little child. Mother asks her son if he stole a chocolate bar from any of the stores in their village today and he responds, "No, I didn't steal a chocolate bar from #such-and-such# store." Of course he will talk about the store that he did not steal from. Just like you limit the conversation to Kosovos declaration of independence even though I am asking about much broader terms.

You give me the distinct impression that you are a hopeless case.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia.
The KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia wanted apartheid separatist states. The latter are more at fault, than the "Serbs", unless you are an accomplice of the separatists, like JS.
The "Serbs", in general, had nothing to do with the overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government and the installation of neo-Nazi, Bander-loving criminals in Kiev. The support for the latter is consistent with NATO's criminal enterprise in the Balkan wars of the 1990's, unless you are NATO/KLA accomplice named JS.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

In contrast to JS, here is what an international judge said about the "fault" of the Serbs: Swedish judge Karphamar, said he left the province (KiM) "after the shock that he experienced" while leading investigation into the bombing of a Nis Express bus in February 2001, when 12 Serbs were killed and 40 others injured.

"Based on DNA evidence at the scene in Livadice, it was determined that one of the potential culprits was Florim Ejupi. I asked that he and three other former KLA members be taken to UN detention where the investigation would continue. However, they were transferred to US camp Bondsteel, into the supposedly safest place in Kosovo, from where the Ejupi escaped," said Karphamar.

It later emerged that Ejupi had been trained by the CIA, said the Swedish judge.

"The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia."
(Zhukov, 3 December 2018 19:25)


You probably won't believe me but I read somewhere that "Tito is dead." Maybe it's just a rumour...

"Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

In contrast to JS, here is what an international judge said about the "fault" of the Serbs: Swedish judge Karphamar, said he left the province (KiM) "after the shock that he experienced" while leading investigation into the bombing of a Nis Express bus in February 2001, when 12 Serbs were killed and 40 others injured..."

More of the same.

I asked you about the general culpability of the Serbs and you cite a single instance of violence against Serbs. Not only does a single instance not prove that the majority of attacks were against Serbs, it doesn't prove your case that all attacks were against Serbs and that Serbs are without any fault during the wars of the 1990s.

And people blame Croats for Oluja! If they didn't remove Serbs from Krajina they would have witnessed the same story over and over again we witness in Kosova and Bosnia on daily basis.

"The second point states that the declaration is signed because of continuous violence, the beatings of Serbs, the unlawful arrests and an attempt to kill Milan Radoicic, which also jeopardizes the right to life to Serbs in Kosovo. "

Sounds like sloba in the 90s, we all know how that story ended. Good luck Serbs

don't let the door hit you on the way out

Inevitable that sane people want to dissociate from a dysgunctional fenced-in ghetto. Heck, even the EU doesn’t want to grant Pristina’s bigots visa-liberalization.

Fortunately Fix, we are not in the 90s anymore although I know Albanians still think we are. In fact, most haven't even left the 90s.

Lying is a serb thing! Twisting the truth its a serb thing! They went to arrest Radicic as a suspect of killing Ivanovic... well, no according to serbs they tried to kill him!!!
Now, just imagine what they did during 90's and what was told to you guys(victims of never knowing the truth)or tried to be told to the world!
This simply tells the whole story!
Sad!!!!!

Brilliant it’s about time they did it by their own as they are responsible for the crimes in north.All of you in Serbia it’s the time to say NO to these criminals as they getting reacher and reacher on the Serbs and Albanians back and These are direct responsible for deaths that happened in North,He knows how killed ivanovich,Next is For Prishtina to open the election on these places and these 4 mayors to take the right not to stand again and send them to jail and to allow proper people to be elected.Its time to tell these enough is enough as Law and order will be in ordered in north.

As if those “mayors” actually did any work other than work with the mafia and Serbian government as middle men. Lol!

Serbs are such scumbags. Nobody cares if you remained on the job or quit...Kosovar government is cleaning up the problem. 100% tariffs is only the beginning. Serbs won’t know what’s coming until it actually happens, element of surprise in full effect! MAXIMUM PRESSURE 100%

Wow. None of them resigned when Ivanovic was murdered while opposing the SNS Srpska List, but now they resign in solidarity with the murder suspect.

Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis. Do the bigots in Pristina do the same? Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?

Russia, like the EU, has a visa-free agreement with Serbia, which includes residents from KiM who have Serbian passports.

Have my answers fixed your (mis)understanding of the visa-free travel between EU, Serbia and Russia.

I will reword my previous statement as i wont come through.

What they are trying to do with the 100% tax on Serbian goods is an attempt at forced displacement of the Serbian people within kosovo. This is a policy to remove an unwanted group of people and a form of ethnic cleansing through economic means. What they accuse us to be, this is what they prove to be themselves. Instead of forcing people out by the bullet they will try to do with the coin.

Brilliant it’s about time they did it by their own as they are responsible for the crimes in north.All of you in Serbia it’s the time to say NO to these criminals as they getting reacher and reacher on the Serbs and Albanians back and These are direct responsible for deaths that happened in North,He knows how killed ivanovich,Next is For Prishtina to open the election on these places and these 4 mayors to take the right not to stand again and send them to jail and to allow proper people to be elected.Its time to tell these enough is enough as Law and order will be in ordered in north.
(The Truth,

@ truthaj - Milosevic? Is that you? We thought you were dead....

@zhukov

Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?

"the 100% tax on Serbian goods is an attempt at forced displacement of the Serbian people within Kosovo"
(Nema)

What sense does that make "genius"? The tariffs are impacting all Kosova citizens the same. I've said it many times before, Serbs need to educate themselves. Serbian ignorance is one of the greatest threats to peace and stability in the region.

These mayors are sell-outs to the Mafia and organized crime and the law will deal with them accordingly. They will be quickly replaced. There are many other Serbs and Albanians that are willing to take their place.
Since you don't like to live in peace and want "frozen conflicts" that's what you will get. And sometimes frozen conflicts unfreeze, so they better not try something else stupid.

Opet pale raju, a raja ko raja. Možeš sa njom kako hoćeš. Kada se približilo otkrivanje ko je ubica i naručilac ubistva Ivanovića Beograd pravi haos i gura sirotinju u prve redove i štiti ove poštene gradonačelnike što podnesoše ostavke. A šta ste drugo očekivali posle povratka radikala i socijalista na vlast. Da nema NATO-a već koliko sutra bi izbio rat.
(Peace brother, 27. novembar 2018 14:27)

Good move!
The resignation of the Serbian mayor's from the so called Kosovaaaa* government and leaving the “Pristina system” is in effect a unilateral act of independence!

The terrorists Pristina have lost the North!
Great move :)

I wonder what the shiptars will do now? Lol

Opet pale raju, a raja ko raja. Možeš sa njom kako hoćeš. Kada se približilo otkrivanje ko je ubica i naručilac ubistva Ivanovića Beograd pravi haos i gura sirotinju u prve redove i štiti ove poštene gradonačelnike što podnesoše ostavke. A šta ste drugo očekivali posle povratka radikala i socijalista na vlast. Da nema NATO-a već koliko sutra bi izbio rat.
(Peace brother, 27. novembar 2018 14:27)
(Avni, 27 November 2018 15:27)

@ avniaj - eto, vidis? Da nisu albanci sa natom ukrali nasu svetu zemlju, nebi ovom putu sve islo...a kao sad su "srbi" krivi, jel?
Vratite nasu KiM I popravice se sve to...lopovi, kad tad, cedu naci pravdu;)

Lying is a serb thing! Twisting the truth its a serb thing! They went to arrest Radicic as a suspect of killing Ivanovic... well, no according to serbs they tried to kill him!!!
Now, just imagine what they did during 90's and what was told to you guys(victims of never knowing the truth)or tried to be told to the world!
This simply tells the whole story!
Sad!!!!!
(Burim, 27 November 2018 14:15

Burim,

Organ trafficking is an Albanian thing, drug trafficking is an Albanian thing, Stealing is an Albanian thing, Cowardice is an Albanian thing, Terrorism is an Albanian thing, Welfare is an Albanian thing, Land theft is an Albanian thing - so, a little white lie doesn't compare, does it?!?!?

These mayors are sell-outs to the Mafia and organized crime and the law will deal with them accordingly. They will be quickly replaced. There are many other Serbs and Albanians that are willing to take their place.
Since you don't like to live in peace and want "frozen conflicts" that's what you will get. And sometimes frozen conflicts unfreeze, so they better not try something else stupid.
(Genti, 27 November 2018 14:42)

@ gentiaj - If you're realistic for one minute, you'll see that the situation has completely turned....now You're the Milosevic looking to tamp down Srb "resistence"...yet you were screaming bloody murder when Milosevic was trying to do the same with Albanian "resistence"....
YOUR cause is JUST, right? Well, genius...the Srbs think THEIR cause is JUST! Now what?
This is why the "world powers" love to start this kinda stuff, play "peacemakers" and end up controlling things....

Burim,

Organ trafficking is an Albanian thing, drug trafficking is an Albanian thing, Stealing is an Albanian thing, Cowardice is an Albanian thing, Terrorism is an Albanian thing, Welfare is an Albanian thing, Land theft is an Albanian thing - so, a little white lie doesn't compare, does it?!?!?
(Chi, 27 November 2018 17:08) # Comm

My dear neighbour “Chi”

If you think what I said is a little white lie, then you have been very well brain washed... I understand though, you never heard the truth before 90’s and remind me was Srebrenica a Albanian thing, was Reqak Albanian thing, was Vukovar Albanian...?
Then again Chetniks war crimes during the Second World War were primarily directed towards the non-Serbian population of Yugoslavia (mainly Muslims and Croats) and Communist-led Yugoslav Partisans and their supporters. Since their establishment in 1903, Chetniks had been instrumental to the nationalist and expansionist politics of Serbia. They acted to preserve the centralized Greater Serbian political system, is this Albanians trying to steal land???
Human trafficing is a Russian-Serbian hoax, but because we are not laiers we accepted this to be judged, the Kosova Assambly voted to do so(this would never happen in Serbia, you are afraid others to know who you actualy are).

@Genti

I think it unfortunate that you had to resort to name calling, I would have liked to see your arguments against my statement. No where in my comment did I said that I dindt want to see peace and prosperity in the province of Kosovo. But the law it isnt something you can resort to only when it favors yourself and denounce it when it doesn’t.

But back to the tarrifs, it is on all products which is a volioti

@USA
Read about this before you spill your toxic accusations. The only country that got into a civil war by a ponzi scheme.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Civil_War

I would suggest in case of escalation and violence, we beat the politicians on both sides with some sticks to make themself feel the consequences of keeping up hate and fear. They are not the once that will suffer in a conflict. So guys in Pristina prepare to beat up your scumbags and in Belgrade may happen the same.

It will be ordinary people that suffer. And the side that will lose an armed conflict will have much more civilians suffering, none of the sides is better than the other in case of winning.
Better 100 half dead beaten politicians than 1000s of suffering civilians.

Of course they cut ties ...their ties to organized & disorganized crime are coming to an end .Kosova police force doing a great job.
That's why they didn't want kosova in Interpol bcs that would mean 100's of more arrests of Mayors and crime associates/family

Shame on Vucic as he was put on power to moderate his political views not going back to his ancestor Milosevic era.!!what does it have to for one student in Belgrade the mayors in kosova turns down their job? Instead of their leader taking the country to eu is talking sensless nationalist propoganda how to goght with Kosova.You have lost it once for all.Not because you have had it before but Big powers gave it to you in 1913 with the help of Russians.So better shut it down you sick ideas as they will semd another 50 years back in Economy and poverty.Look at your neighbours croatians or slovenians or austrians!!! They are at least 25 years ahead of us albanians and serbians too.Wake up true serbians as we arent comjng to your people and kicking out of your houses as we albanians experienced by your Sick leaders.

Chi the brain washer ignorant:

Do you have any clue why the International Community (NATO) bombed you for 78 beautiful days and nights !

Since you don’t then it’s obvious you never learned your lesson.

And the lesson was CRIME DOESNT PAY!

Skipping school and you seen how far it has gotten you ......
(Azir, 28 November 2018 02:30

You're so cute Azir! Yes, I do have a clue, and it's only one reason. The US/West's major fear of Russia. They needed an air base in the proximity of KiM and I'm sure that they concluded that Serbia would never allow it because of their historic ties to Russia. But, and this is a big butt, they found the weak link in the Balkans, yes the KiM Albanians. Weak, easy to manipulate, don't have to give them much, and evaluated as an easy puppet state. It's pretty evident that you people were hoodwinked by the US because you've received zero help from them since they built Bondsteel. No industry, no investment to speak of, and no schools - the last one is self-evident since I can see the lack of education level from the people in this forum, you in particular Azir.

"Nowhere _ did I said I dindt want to see peace and prosperity in the province of Kosovo."
(Nema)
Not sure what you mean: if you mean "province of Serbia", then you want war, because we both know only a devastating war could ever make Kosovo a province of Serbia. If you mean "province of Albania", then you may be more realistic. Belgrade politicians can boast that they never recognized Kosovo and Albanians can unite peacefully. It's a win-win.

Your arguments "forcefully displace Serbs" have no merit. Kosovo Serbs can buy from other sources, there is no shortage of anything in Kosovo. If they want to buy from Serbia they have to pay the price, but that is their choice. It's not "forced displacement".

@gentiaj - If you're realistic..You're the Milosevic looking to tamp down Srb "resistence"
(Watcher)

Sure I'm realistic, but you are too brainwashed to even begin to understand the level of repression Kosovo Albanians suffered during Milosevic's regime. Comparing that to the situation of Serbs in Kosovo is far from realistic. The difference is Kosovo is a democratic country with the most advanced minority rights in Europe. The fact that present-day Serbia (who pretends to be an aspiring civilized country) doesn't give the same rights to Albanians in Presheva shows the disparity even 20 years after Milosevic. You can't even compare both countries today, let alone during Milosevic.

Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?
(Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

It’s the EU who doesn’t have anything to boast about because it’s residents do not have visa-free travel to Russia.

but then you overreach when you claim that Pristina follows Germany's orders. It is okay to talk about influence and discuss the extent of German sway in Kosovo. But your comments go far beyond that, somewhere off into distant space.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

The only display of “distant space” in this exchange is in JS’ head. Reading and comprehension of the English language is obviously a difficult task for JS.
Fact #31: I asked a series of questions, I did not “claim”.
Fact #32: JS does not understand the difference between a “claim” and a “question”.
Fact #33: I first asked “do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU?”. Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto.

Srpska lista demantuje da Srbi izlaze iz svih kosovskih institucija
http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/kosovo/95538/srpska-lista-demantuje-da-srbi-izlaze-iz-svih-kosovskih-institucija

Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis.
Do the bigots in Pristina do the same?
(Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

I believe, that the pro capita ratio of nazis in Western Ukraine was higher than in Germany or Croatia.

At least, most Germans and Croatians today have valid excuse, like age.
Still, all Ukrainians can visit Russia without visa. And with many of them the age is not an excuse, the "nazi" thing seem to be re-born.
That's what I would call "bigot".

On the other hand JS recently visited Russia.
It would be interesting to learn about his side of story with the visa.
When it was? Political wind changes - but we aren't THAT bad, right?

@Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)

But after I got Serbian citizenship that visa was no longer necessary
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Maybe fine if you do not have a car. But for most returnees from United States the local citizenship is a burden, not a blessing.

Keyword: car registration and fees. Nothing political.

The #1 import item every single American takes to his new-old country from the States is the car.

The only exception which can be tolerated more-less is Russia. At least Russians decided to get in bed with Nissan, siblings of some "Lada"-s can be found in the States under "Nissan" nickname and the price of a Lada with automatic (can't drive stick shift!) is kind of OK.

But who was that Serbian genius who sold his soul to FIAT?
That's the worst car in the States, no one buys it.

I tried that THING as a U.S. model and immediately returned it. Thanks FIAT - but no thanks. Understand, in Serbia it's much cheaper and maybe with stick shift and without Federal Crash Test Certificate it drives better.

I rather stick to automatic and Federal Crash Certificate.

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries.
(JS, 28 November 2018 00:39)

This is only formality. To beat that idiotic set of rules you have to beat certain Russian and certain EU bureaucratic insanity.

American / Russian relationship has a slightly different set of rules. That's the other minor challenge to beat.

Once someone learned all that - the border is barely to notice.

The biggest problem is not political, but technical. More precisely the visa over-stay in the U.S.

U.S. is not equipped with kiosks to monitor the exit of visitors.

The data is just guessed, many lose their I-94-s and no one is sure about how to deal with lost I-94-s.


Here is the cold statistics for 2016:

https://tinyurl.com/yd6537ts

Notice that for Russia the over-stay rate is 1.44% with additional 1.31% travelers "disappearing", pretty much like of Spain and slightly worse than of Austia.
For Albania the same is 4.83% with additional 4.43% "disappearing". That is worse, than Angola.
For Serbia: 2.50% with additional 2.19% "disappearing".

I think that if the relations will be better, Russia will be among the prime candidates into VWP program.

Serbia is quite far from that. And Albania does not even have a remote chance.

Then again Chetniks war crimes during the Second World War were primarily directed towards the non-Serbian population of Yugoslavia (mainly Muslims and Croats) (Burim, 27 November 2018 21:57)

What crimes are you talking about Burek? The Chetnik movement was a reaction to the invasion of Yugoslavia by Nazi Germany of which Albania was part of the Axis of evil and declared war on the US. It was led by Draza Mihailovic, a true hero awarded the legion of merit by US president Harry S. Truman, betrayed by Churchill and Tito's Partisans. Albanians as part of the Nazi Axis of Evil, invaded Greece and Kosovo and massacred thousands of civilians including Orthodox Priests. The only crime Chetniks committed was pulling back from killing German soldiers, retribution was 100 civilians executed for every German solider killed, Tito ignored it as his only goal was to seize power at any cost just like the Albanian Nazi's.

>>I got the five year multiple entry visa.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Wow, how on Planet Earth you could do that?
Only EU citizens can get a 5-year visa and only a business one.
Visas issued to Americans are - by the way - much better than any visa free regime because you can stay 6 months instead of only max. 90 days.

>>I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

Which ones and on which consulate you did it?

>>I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:30)

The number of documents in US except Houston or an average EU country, or in Ukraine is now not that big.


The screening is tough if they suspect, you are traveling on business - but use the tourist visa. And it's done by customs because if you have excessive equipment with you, different customs fees do apply.
Like having two cameras for a tourist is OK, having cases of pro equipment is not.

For me two years ago at the airport three cameras and one large desktop computer in a suitcase was OK - but a lot of questions from customs.

On a different trip: having a brand-new car full of household items was fine. In the theory, the weight of all household is limited to 50kg.
They let me through without questions.

>>Zhukov is American?
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

He claimed that, I take his word. But - if by an accident - it turns out to be a lie, he will need to explain certain things.


>>I don't see the need of a motor vehicle
>>considering the extensive bus and train
>>connections in Europe
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

The public transport is much better, than in Canada or U.S. - but that is not sufficient even in Germany.

The only case if you do not need to rely on the public transportation, is if you live in the downtown area of a city.

A 2000 sq feet home with own garden in BP or Moscow downtown is nice, but you will need more, than $30K extra to the price of the same 20 miles away.

Serbia is much worse. Bus companies are a b*ch, no investment into trains since 1970, older railway cars in disgusting state.

And what about Ашан & Co?


>>It would be safer to drive a horse!
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:36)

Very trendy here and ecologically fine. But costs more, I have no place for the poor thing. And is not maintenance-free. For now let it be Nissan - Honda thing, in some sort of hybrid configuration.

Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al. My response was not a question, rhetorical or otherwise, it was an unambiguous statement. Please learn to read and comprehend the English language.
(Zhukov, 29 November 2018 05:13)

Your response had something about "nazis" which in the current situation (soon-to-be-2019) has no sense.

Your response was quite silly because before 1991 Soviet Union had no visa regime with the GDR.

Same with Yugoslavia. At that time more nazis from WW-II were alive in GDR and on the territory of Croatia than today.

The responses were poor. I did not rate them - but they were poor.

The same time, today there are more descents of nazis in Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil than in Germany and Croatia combined.

Still, citizens of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil do not need visa to Russia.

Do you know how "difficult" is to get a passport in Paraguay? $5000 in the bank, Spanish language lessons, food costing about 1/3 than in Croatia and wait 3 years.

I am not talking about property or rental prices 1/3 or 1/2 of Croatia or Russia or any other place here nearby.

What would cost a real nazi to get access to the entire Russia for free?
A passport from Paraguay.

Please, do not spread brain disease here, we have Tom, Azir & Co. doing an excellent job.

I would rather see some pressure on our dear politicians regarding visas.

@Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 12:48)

Stfu commie...
Your nick is the main cause for all the post WW2 misery in the Balkans, including the 90's

Your nick is the main cause for all the post WW2 misery in the Balkans, including the 90's
(Miloš Obilić)
hm, let me think about that. 40 years of peace? Big misery.
Preaching brotherhood and unity and warning of nationalistic movements?very bad from communists.
Social system that functioned and enough vacations plus retirement from which people could live. Damn you yugoslavian communists for that.
The 90s hmmmm, I guess I mistakenly thought that this lunatics running around yugoslavia killing the people from other religions were nationalists (never mind bosnian, croat or serbian). Sorry my bad.
I hope you understand sarcasm

hm, let me think about that. 40 years of peace? Big misery.
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 18:53)

Tito laid the seeds for the destruction of Yugoslavia.

This is what your hero left behind;

Contents:
1.Wash. Post, April 3, 1981; Yugoslavs Take Emergency Steps In Face of Ethnic Disturbance
2.The Economist, April 11, 1981; Yugoslavia; Home-grown Bother
3.NY Times, April 19, 1981; One Storm Passed, Others Gathering in Yugoslavia
4.Christian Science Monitor (CSM); May 7, 1981; Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge?
5.AP; Oct. 23, 1981; Minorities Leaving Yugoslav Province Dominated by Albanians
6.CSM, Dec. 16, 1981; Why turbulent Kosovo has marble sidewalks but troubled industries
7.Financial Times, Feb. 5, 1982; Police fail to crush resistance in Kosovo
8.Financial Times, June 1, 1982; Kosovo riots jolt the regions
9.NY Times, July 12, 1982; Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia
10.Facts on File World News Digest; September 10, 1982; Serbs in Kosovo Exodus

Mostly insults here. Very little substance.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Fact#34: The term “distant space” is from JS’s head.
Fact#35: If you have a problem with the substance of a JS comment, please bring it to the attention of JS.

From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement?
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Well according to JS, this is a “rhetorical question”, which in turn we conclude is statement from an Albanian that Pristina bigots want to maintain Serbia’s reciprocity of visa free travel with EU.

And by answering "fix" with a row of questions.
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Fact#36: “Fix” asked whether Russia had visa-free travel to the EU?
Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al. My response was not a question, rhetorical or otherwise, it was an unambiguous statement. Please learn to read and comprehend the English language.

But first you really need to convince them that KiM is an integral part of Serbia. Until then you are only criticizing and venting frustration, not making a sound case for them to change their mind.
(JS, 29 November 2018 18:13)

I am not a KLA accomplice who is convinced by, or convinces, these criminals.
You may be surprised to learn that the bigoted, apartheid separatists in Pristina are irrational evil criminals. They should be arrested and prosecuted for their crimes. That NATO and other accomplices have sponsored and protected these racist bigots, is a fact I will continue to emphasize until the KLA - NATO axis of evil join their WWII Nazi predecessors on the dust heap of history.

But, again, you reveal your racism when you equate Germans so closely with Nazis and Croatians with Ustashe but don't find us Serbs worthy of examination. I guess you believe in the "heavenly Serbia" nonsense.
(JS, 29 November 2018 18:13)

The “close” association of many Germans with Nazis, and many Croats with Ustashe is a recent historical fact. It is undeniable, unless of course your are a “Serb” named JS.
The revival of Ustashe and Nazism in today’s Croatia (like Bandera-loving racists in Ukraine) is also undeniable, unless of course you are “Serb” named JS.
I have not witnessed the composition of heaven, but I do know there are evil people on this earth such as the KLA, NATO, (as well as their apologists and accomplices, some of whom claim to be Serbs) who support the apartheid separation of a multiethnic Serbia.
My view about heaven does not negate the extent and magnitude of evil on earth in places such as Croatia, Ukraine, the Pristina ghetto, and the support this evil receives from Germany/USA and the so called “west”. Your denial of this fact and your attempt to deflect this evil with comments about your supposed ethnicity or some “heavenly Serbia” clearly expose your racism.

Would those kind labels apply to Serbs or Russians in any way"..."By the way, I am still wondering if Serbs or Russians are worthy of examination...
(JS, 1 December 2018 18:40)

I did examine policies from both Serbia and Russia. Neither Serbia, nor Russia support the bigoted apartheid separatist in Pristina. In fact, the KLA terrorists are mainly sponsored and supported by NATO, USA and the so called "west". Just like the USA/NATO/German axis supports the bandera-loving neo-Nazis in Ukraine. You apparently don't have a calendar to realize this revival of evil is occurring in 2018.

"Yeah because Russia has visa free travel too right?
(Fix, 27 November 2018 11:44)

In contrast to the dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto, Russia does not permit Germans, Croats et al visa-free entry onto our sovereign territory; we prefer to screen former Nazis. Do the bigots in Pristina do the same? Or do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU? Or do the Pristina bigots simply goose step to German orders while being humiliated and discriminated?

Russia, like the EU, has a visa-free agreement with Serbia, which includes residents from KiM who have Serbian passports.

Have my answers fixed your (mis)understanding of the visa-free travel between EU, Serbia and Russia." (Zhukov, 27 November 2018 12:29)

Russia doesn't have anything to boast about because its residents don't have visa-free travel to EU countries. The fact that Pristina allows EU citizens visa-free entry but doesn't receive visa-free entry to EU countries (reciprocity) is the point of your argument. You have a point -- though it isn't a very strong point because Pristina could simply get upset and cut off visa-free travel which could be seen either as a strength or weakness, depending on a person's perspective -- but then you overreach when you claim that Pristina follows Germany's orders. It is okay to talk about influence and discuss the extent of German sway in Kosovo. But your comments go far beyond that, somewhere off into distant space.

Chi the brain washer ignorant:

Do you have any clue why the International Community (NATO) bombed you for 78 beautiful days and nights !

Since you don’t then it’s obvious you never learned your lesson.

And the lesson was CRIME DOESNT PAY!

Skipping school and you seen how far it has gotten you ......

"On the other hand JS recently visited Russia.
It would be interesting to learn about his side of story with the visa.
When it was? Political wind changes - but we aren't THAT bad, right?" (Honcho, 28 November 2018 02:14)

I enjoyed each visit. I got the five year multiple entry visa. But after I got Serbian citizenship that visa was no longer necessary. I had to provide a lot of documents to get the visa, and my first time in the country I was thoroughly screened at passport control in Moscow. But it was worth the hassle. I hope to visit the Old Believers sometime. That should be very interesting!

"The only display of “distant space” in this exchange is in JS’ head. Reading and comprehension of the English language is obviously a difficult task for JS.
Fact #31: I asked a series of questions, I did not “claim”.
Fact #32: JS does not understand the difference between a “claim” and a “question”.
Fact #33: I first asked “do Pristina’s bigots honor Serbia’s visa-free agreement with the EU?”. Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto." (Zhukov, 28 November 2018 10:30)

Mostly insults here. Very little substance.

From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement? I am not trying to support the Albanian position; I just don't understand why you would expect them to think like a Serb.

And by answering "fix" with a row of questions, I think it fair to conclude that those were rhetorical questions, in other words, statements.

Jugoslavija: if you are such a cetnik fan you should maybe reconsider your nick. ;)
(Tito reloaded, 28 November 2018 12:48)

Smart comment by a Communist, Tito stole the name Yugoslavia. Fitting , his Communist goons also stole the country and robbed the civilians after the war. How could these so called Marxists afford to live in Dedijne including Milos Minic, the lawyer of the show trials of Draza Mihailovic. In one way it was fitting to see Milosevich sit through The Hague sponsored show trials to bring back memories of Tito’s show trials and purges of all nationalities in Yugoslavia.

Apparently JS and his ideological accomplices, the KLA, do want to honor Serbia’s policy in their fenced-in ghetto.
(Zhukov, 28 November 2018 10:30)

Pardon me. There is not a single direct proof, KLA is ideological accomplice of JS.

I accept at the face value the statement of you both, that you are Americans - and have three farms in Serbia and/or Russia.

What I am doing is exchange of experience. No political crap.

Being a Central European and Russian and American may be seen as a huge benefit. But the same time it is a huge burden because one has to go through a million small day-to-day chores in all these countries. Failing that, will generate a rain of paperwork and very expensive war with bureaucrats. As you understand, the paperwork-war is our daily practice, I may have some experience - but learning from you or JS is always a good idea.

My main objective: to minimize my own costs of such war with bureaucrats. Sounds reasonable?

"Only EU citizens can get a 5-year visa and only a business one.
Visas issued to Americans are - by the way - much better than any visa free regime because you can stay 6 months instead of only max. 90 days."

Sorry, my mistake. It was a three-year multiple-entry. Yes, it allowed a six month stay. In effect, by leaving the country six times a person could live in Russia for three years!

"Which ones and on which consulate you did it?"

In Belgrade. What surprised me the most is that I had to bring an original notarized copy of property in the United States. That and the bank statements felt a bit invasive but they gave me a three year visa with 180 day stay per visit so I felt that was fair compensation.

"The screening is tough if they suspect, you are traveling on business - but use the tourist visa. And it's done by customs because if you have excessive equipment with you...On a different trip: having a brand-new car full of household items was fine. In the theory, the weight of all household is limited to 50kg.
They let me through without questions." (Honcho, 28 November 2018 16:22)

Interesting. They never checked my bags. They just seemed very skeptical about the validity of my visa. I don't know why. Maybe because it was issued without a picture on it (which seemed unusual to me too). Maybe they didn't like my beard! :)

"I accept at the face value the statement of you both, that you are Americans - and have three farms in Serbia and/or Russia."

Zhukov is American?

"Being a Central European and Russian and American may be seen as a huge benefit. But the same time it is a huge burden because one has to go through a million small day-to-day chores in all these countries. Failing that, will generate a rain of paperwork and very expensive war with bureaucrats. As you understand, the paperwork-war is our daily practice..."

I agree completely. The people are nice but the bureaucracy is pure madness.

"My main objective: to minimize my own costs of such war with bureaucrats. Sounds reasonable?"
(Honcho...)

What do you suggest? A friend recently suggested to fire lazy life-termers and replace them with friendly diligent handicapped persons who have no other reasonable job opportunities. Then we would finally have government employees that serve the people!

(Honcho, 28 November 2018 17:20)

Another hilarious post.

I don't see the need of a motor vehicle considering the extensive bus and train connections in Europe.

"I rather stick to automatic and Federal Crash Certificate." (Honcho, 28 November 2018 17:20)

It would be safer to drive a horse!

What do you suggest? A friend recently suggested to fire lazy life-termers and replace them with friendly diligent handicapped persons who have no other reasonable job opportunities.
Then we would finally have government employees that serve the people!
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

The situation is very tough, in Germany barely better.
You can't find anyone for a government job, even with disability, people want better salaries and they get them easily.

Suggestion? Raise the salaries in the government sector, ASAP. That helps.

Good move!
The resignation of the Serbian mayor's from the so called Kosovaaaa* government and leaving the “Pristina system” is in effect a unilateral act of independence!

The terrorists Pristina have lost the North!
Great move :)

I wonder what the shiptars will do now? Lol
(So sad, too bad, 27 November 2018 15:50) # Comment link

This is step one in the implementation of the ZSO. Very amusing out of the 30+ comments from the Albanian this is the only comment that is relevant

>>It was a three-year multiple-entry.
>>Yes, it allowed a six month stay.
>>In effect, by leaving the country
>>six times a person could live in
>>Russia for three years!
(JS, 28 November 2018 19:03)

100% correct answer, thanks.

>>In Belgrade. What surprised me the most
>>is that I had to bring an original
>>notarized copy of property in the United States.

Again, a 100% correct answer, thanks.
AFAIK, this is done in Houston and Belgrade ONLY.

I am curious, what happens if someone does
not have any property in the States.

The rules vary from consulate to consulate
because the visa treaty gives the consul a backdoor.

If a consul has a pet idea, he will implement it.
The best is to call the consulate ahead of time
and confirm, what they are asking for.


>>They just seemed very skeptical about the validity of my visa.
>>I don't know why.

Incompetence.
Many border guards do not know, the 3-year visa exists at all.
Typical, we have same story. But at least they tell us.


>>Maybe because it was issued without a picture on it
>>(which seemed unusual to me too).
>>Maybe they didn't like my beard!

Correct observation. In the U.S. the visas are issued
usually without pictures.
It looks, like the consulate in Belgrade works the similar
way as the one in Houston.

I was surprised, in some EU countries they would stamp
a visa with a picture - even if the previous one
(issued in the States) was without it.

I agree completely. The people are nice but the bureaucracy is pure madness.
(JS, 28 November 2018 20:32)

One small mistake and you are ready to be milked to death.
Example: forgetting to renew the passport while living abroad.


If about any kind of paperwork, HU seem to be more "heavy-weight" than either US or RU. Maybe because the small mosquito is more aggressive than the big elephant.

"Fact#34...Fact#35"

Yep, thoughts do emerge from one's brain and, yes, if you have a problem with the substance of what I comment feel free to bring it to my attention. But, please, only if a person has something constructive to say.

"From the Albanian perspective why would they "honor" Serbia's visa-free travel arrangement?
(JS, 28 November 2018 14:38)

Well according to JS, this is a “rhetorical question”..."

It was not a rhetorical question. It provided you the opportunity to explain why you think they should -- within their own frame of thinking -- "honor" the agreement reached by a government that they consider a neighboring country. But first you really need to convince them that KiM is an integral part of Serbia. Until then you are only criticizing and venting frustration, not making a sound case for them to change their mind.

"Fact#36: “Fix” asked whether Russia had visa-free travel to the EU?
Fact#37: I responded with an emphatic statement that Russia prefers to screen Germans, Croats et al..." (Zhukov, 29 November 2018 05:13)

Your response was wholly inadequate. A simple "yes" or "no" is sufficient. Then explanatory notes are welcome. But, again, you reveal your racism when you equate Germans so closely with Nazis and Croatians with Ustashe but don't find us Serbs worthy of examination. I guess you believe in the "heavenly Serbia" nonsense.

@Jugoslavija: you really want to make communists responsible for the crimes of nationalists? Never mind albanian, bosnian, croatian, serbian,...
Sorry but that seed was there already in the 1930s. Communists holded it down, unfortunately they got undermined by nationalists and were to soft to the nationalists. And the blood in the 90s is on the hands of nationalists. Unfortunately this guys are still at power and preach hate.

"The “close” association of many Germans with Nazis, and many Croats with Ustashe is a recent historical fact."

I'm not sure if you noticed that the calendar reads "2018"?

"The revival of Ustashe and Nazism in today’s Croatia (like Bandera-loving racists in Ukraine) is also undeniable..."

I don't live there. I visit once a year and never heard of such a "revival."

"I have not witnessed the composition of heaven, but I do know there are evil people on this earth such as the KLA, NATO, (as well as their apologists and accomplices, some of whom claim to be Serbs) who support the apartheid separation of a multiethnic Serbia. My view about heaven does not negate the extent and magnitude of evil on earth in places such as Croatia, Ukraine, the Pristina ghetto, and the support this evil receives from Germany/USA and the so called “west”."

Would those kind labels apply to Serbs or Russians in any way?

"Your denial of this fact and your attempt to deflect this evil with comments about your supposed ethnicity or some “heavenly Serbia” clearly expose your racism." (Zhukov, 30 November 2018 10:06)

Actually it doesn't. It requires at bare minimum: hatred for persons of Serbian ethnicity. Which is quite difficult considering that I myself am an ethnic Serb. If you think I am wrong about recent history, at worst I would be uninformed.

By the way, I am still wondering if Serbs or Russians are worthy of examination...

" I did examine policies from both Serbia and Russia. Neither Serbia, nor Russia support the bigoted apartheid separatist in Pristina. In fact, the KLA terrorists are mainly sponsored and supported by NATO, USA and the so called "west"." (Zhukov, 3 December 2018 10:22)

You remind me of a little child. Mother asks her son if he stole a chocolate bar from any of the stores in their village today and he responds, "No, I didn't steal a chocolate bar from #such-and-such# store." Of course he will talk about the store that he did not steal from. Just like you limit the conversation to Kosovos declaration of independence even though I am asking about much broader terms.

You give me the distinct impression that you are a hopeless case.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia.
The KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia wanted apartheid separatist states. The latter are more at fault, than the "Serbs", unless you are an accomplice of the separatists, like JS.
The "Serbs", in general, had nothing to do with the overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government and the installation of neo-Nazi, Bander-loving criminals in Kiev. The support for the latter is consistent with NATO's criminal enterprise in the Balkan wars of the 1990's, unless you are NATO/KLA accomplice named JS.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

In contrast to JS, here is what an international judge said about the "fault" of the Serbs: Swedish judge Karphamar, said he left the province (KiM) "after the shock that he experienced" while leading investigation into the bombing of a Nis Express bus in February 2001, when 12 Serbs were killed and 40 others injured.

"Based on DNA evidence at the scene in Livadice, it was determined that one of the potential culprits was Florim Ejupi. I asked that he and three other former KLA members be taken to UN detention where the investigation would continue. However, they were transferred to US camp Bondsteel, into the supposedly safest place in Kosovo, from where the Ejupi escaped," said Karphamar.

It later emerged that Ejupi had been trained by the CIA, said the Swedish judge.

"The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia."
(Zhukov, 3 December 2018 19:25)


You probably won't believe me but I read somewhere that "Tito is dead." Maybe it's just a rumour...

"Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

In contrast to JS, here is what an international judge said about the "fault" of the Serbs: Swedish judge Karphamar, said he left the province (KiM) "after the shock that he experienced" while leading investigation into the bombing of a Nis Express bus in February 2001, when 12 Serbs were killed and 40 others injured..."

More of the same.

I asked you about the general culpability of the Serbs and you cite a single instance of violence against Serbs. Not only does a single instance not prove that the majority of attacks were against Serbs, it doesn't prove your case that all attacks were against Serbs and that Serbs are without any fault during the wars of the 1990s.

Are you willing to admit that Serbs had some fault in the wars of the 90s?
(JS, 3 December 2018 14:02)

"The "Serbs", in general, wanted to stay together in Yugoslavia." The KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia wanted apartheid separatist states. The latter are more at fault, than the "Serbs", unless you are an accomplice of the separatists, like JS.
(Zhukov, 3 December 2018 19:25)


You probably won't believe me but I read somewhere that "Tito is dead." Maybe it's just a rumour...
(JS, 3 December 2018 22:59)

As an accomplice of the bigoted apartheid separatists, JS is completely ignorant to the fact that in the 1990s Tito had nothing to do with the "fault" of the KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia who wanted apartheid separatist states.

I asked you about the general culpability of the Serbs and you cite a single instance 
(JS, 3 December 2018 23:06)

No, I in fact responded clearly about the 1990s wars and the undeniable "general" culpability of the KLA terrorists, the neo-Ustashe nationalists in Croatia, the Muslims and the mujahideen in Bosnia who wanted apartheid separatist states. Yes we know this fact is incomprehensible to JS, whose lame response invoking Tito, doesn't acquit his accomplices of the "general" culpability for the wars in the 90s.