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Friday, 07.09.2018.

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"We're dealing with lunatics here" - Dacic minces no words

First Deputy PM and Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic told Prva TV on Friday that the current events show "what kind of lunatics Belgrade is dealing with."

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Chi

pre 6 godina

How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.
(Lenard, 7 September 2018 20:38)

That's about right Lenard, Vucic's 1000 Euro salary is about equivalent to your Nazi Croatian State GDP....

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(icj1, 11 September 2018 03:43)

So who is this other Peggy
(Peggy, 12 September 2018 02:01)

That's the one who wrote on 8 September 2018 at 10:12 "tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence" :)

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
====================
So who is this other Peggy who you think asked for your input?
It certainly wasn't me.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
----------

Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I only participated in conversions which are open to the public on B92 forums. Rest assured that I'll never participate in your private conversations since I have no time to waste!
---------

You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

I'm not here to entertain you, dear, so I couldn't care less whether you are entertained or not!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)
==================
I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of. You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.

JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence."

I'm not 'Tito reloaded' and I'm not a socialist but I agree with many of his points. At the base of it all, I think we would say it doesn't matter how the borders are drawn, it doesn't matter whether Kosovo is inside or outside Serbia. After all, ethnicities are created over time and could be drawn and named very differently. When people fight over such things, they are being senseless.

I believe that God created us with a good nature but that we distort it through yielding to sin, through evil inclinations. Ethnicities can be fun. God created humans with creative minds. But the problem is when we yield to sin, and turn something into a tool of evil. The ultimate identity -- and the only identity that really matters -- is being identified with the crucified and risen Savior. All other identities disappear in the presence of his power and glory.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

You keep condemning everyone here
(Peggy)
is anybody from the 2 'governments' here on the site?
There are several solutions.
1st stay officially together join EU and then still a seperation is possible, plus people could move and work freely after a secession.
2nd split Kosovo, north to serbia, presevo if they want to kosovo.
3rd keep the status and work on reducing hate and fear of the other side. Instead of provocating politics, it would be better to bring the children together. Student exchange, weeks in the nature anything that helps to reduce hate and fear.
4th time machine and put the political leaders and their entourage from the 90s to Goli Otok in 1985.
In general it is a shame for the region that the warlords, propaganda guys, politicians from the 90s and their political inheritance are still at power in the republics of former yugoslavia.
People like thaci and vucic should be in prisons and not be politicians. They brought far too much suffering to the people in the past.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

This the problem. Serbia has been dealing wit h the belief that on the opposite side are reasonable, decent intelligent people. This has never been the case.
I am sure Merkel and everyone have been telling the Serbs how they understand, that they know what these crazies are like, and that they will deal with it when the time comes. But they never do.the time is now and still they do nothing to put these criminals in their place.
The anti Serb bigotry lives strong in Brussels. They made the lie and now don’t know how to stop it, even if they wanted to. The bureaucracy there still consists and is proud of those who engineered the break up of Yugoslavia.

Lunatic

pre 6 godina

Referencing your opposition as lunatic's isn't going to help your cause. This is perhaps what you would expect from the likes of Dacic. Bantering to your own masses for your own politic gain is quite clearly the only objective you hold. For people like yourself it's self preservation ahead of those your responsible for. Your constituents.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Both 'governments' should be badly beaten for what they did in the 90s and for the hate and fear they still keep alive.
(Tito reloaded, 7 September 2018 20:35)
===============================
OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the only reason Vucic went to Brussels (on Friday) is to avoid having Serbia accused of not attending meetings"

Well, Vucic pulled out of the meetings. Thaci came to meet and to discuss, but Vucic didn't want to hear his requests about Presheva. Better get used to hearing it, every time you ask about Serb rights in Kosovo you will hear about Albanian rights in Presheva.

And if you want to change borders, you will have to "give something to get something in return". And no, that doesn't mean you can get Trepca or Ujmani, because we won't exchange those even if you gave us Belgrade in return. A deal involves two parties agreeing and being sneaky will not win you a deal. The EU sees it too.

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Serbs like to project their own issues on others, but they are being taught a very valuable lesson in International Relations: You don’t win by projecting, you win by being real! And you are not being real and straightforward right now, you are undermining the process by provoking through unauthorized visits. You can visit when the north is yours and Presevo Valley goes to Kosovo. You never wanted these negotiations to happen, and that’s why Lithuania is being used to block your EU chapters. The EU is not blind.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Not just lunatics, but childish infantile lunatics suffering from delusions of grandeur that whatever power they have comes from themselves, and not whatever the US and the EU throw on the floor for them to hungrily devour. It's been like this for 20 years and more. The only thing you can do is laugh at their stupidity and get amazed every time walk into their own jokes.

Tommy Boy

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

Allow me to make a small wager by guessing that you are one of them CSers that's still in the grooming stage when it comes to lying and attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs.
However, I'll give you some credit for trying so hard and for using big words which must delight your employers and ignorant followers. Your comrades in key boards are not as ambitious as you are, for years all they are doing is attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs and tirelessly repeating admitted and proven lies from CNN, BBC, and other biased and unreliable media outlets.

P.S. Got kidneys???

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Why would Vucic visit Kosovo when the negotiations are still ongoing? He can’t wait until a deal is reached? Or does he want to capitalize politically? These negotiations are not meant for politicians to play games with them, they are meant to establish a permanent solution. Visits like that can happen afterwards, not now, as now they can be seen as provocations.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ivica get a job stop BS every one especially the delusional Serbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPyNTqCI3To your the lunatic fringe. That's it keep practicing your belly dancing routine and learn more Turk folk songs what a talent. How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.

vratnica

pre 6 godina

All these ALBO comments about the 90's. Dude it's 2018 perhaps your people are living in the caveman days, Serbia will always be better off without all the egg heads. Good riddance go back to Albania I'm sure your family missis you.

Ian

pre 6 godina

Haha! It is truley funny how some people can gind a way to spin this in their own crazy heads as Serbia doing something wrong. The hypocracy is blinding. Albanians want to have independence because they are a mojority in certain regions. Yet when Serbia want thr same for its people it is spun into some kind of aggression. Its perfectly clear which side is pushing things to the point of no return. One thing i can guarantee is that when things get out of control the outcome will be drastcally different that 1999. The support to Serbia is 100x greater and the support for albanians is much weaker.

John

pre 6 godina

I admire Dacic, he says it like it is, calls a spade a spade and continues on in the best interests of his country. Good luck my friend, do whatever it takes to win your province back, you have my support. Most important of all: watch your back.

Ivan

pre 6 godina

The only lunatics here are Serbs who are running Serbia today. Weren't they the same who ran Serbia during the 1990s? Serbs seem to not be able to move.

Chi

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

What's rich is that you continue to be ignorant and ill unformatted - stop reading the KLA Gazette and get your news from a reliable source. The biggest ethnic cleansing during the Balkan Wars was Serbs from the Krajina region (250,000+) out of the Nazi State of Croatia - even an uneducated fool like you can find this out. As far as raping and killing children, this started in your back yard prior to the war in 1990 - you know this, and i would assume you and your hateful comrades participated. It's also rich, that this incoming from you, belonging to the only know terrorist organization (KLA) in Europe.

Albanopolis

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.

Albanopolis

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.

Ivan

pre 6 godina

The only lunatics here are Serbs who are running Serbia today. Weren't they the same who ran Serbia during the 1990s? Serbs seem to not be able to move.

Chi

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

What's rich is that you continue to be ignorant and ill unformatted - stop reading the KLA Gazette and get your news from a reliable source. The biggest ethnic cleansing during the Balkan Wars was Serbs from the Krajina region (250,000+) out of the Nazi State of Croatia - even an uneducated fool like you can find this out. As far as raping and killing children, this started in your back yard prior to the war in 1990 - you know this, and i would assume you and your hateful comrades participated. It's also rich, that this incoming from you, belonging to the only know terrorist organization (KLA) in Europe.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ivica get a job stop BS every one especially the delusional Serbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPyNTqCI3To your the lunatic fringe. That's it keep practicing your belly dancing routine and learn more Turk folk songs what a talent. How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Why would Vucic visit Kosovo when the negotiations are still ongoing? He can’t wait until a deal is reached? Or does he want to capitalize politically? These negotiations are not meant for politicians to play games with them, they are meant to establish a permanent solution. Visits like that can happen afterwards, not now, as now they can be seen as provocations.

Tommy Boy

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

Allow me to make a small wager by guessing that you are one of them CSers that's still in the grooming stage when it comes to lying and attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs.
However, I'll give you some credit for trying so hard and for using big words which must delight your employers and ignorant followers. Your comrades in key boards are not as ambitious as you are, for years all they are doing is attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs and tirelessly repeating admitted and proven lies from CNN, BBC, and other biased and unreliable media outlets.

P.S. Got kidneys???

vratnica

pre 6 godina

All these ALBO comments about the 90's. Dude it's 2018 perhaps your people are living in the caveman days, Serbia will always be better off without all the egg heads. Good riddance go back to Albania I'm sure your family missis you.

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Serbs like to project their own issues on others, but they are being taught a very valuable lesson in International Relations: You don’t win by projecting, you win by being real! And you are not being real and straightforward right now, you are undermining the process by provoking through unauthorized visits. You can visit when the north is yours and Presevo Valley goes to Kosovo. You never wanted these negotiations to happen, and that’s why Lithuania is being used to block your EU chapters. The EU is not blind.

Ian

pre 6 godina

Haha! It is truley funny how some people can gind a way to spin this in their own crazy heads as Serbia doing something wrong. The hypocracy is blinding. Albanians want to have independence because they are a mojority in certain regions. Yet when Serbia want thr same for its people it is spun into some kind of aggression. Its perfectly clear which side is pushing things to the point of no return. One thing i can guarantee is that when things get out of control the outcome will be drastcally different that 1999. The support to Serbia is 100x greater and the support for albanians is much weaker.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Not just lunatics, but childish infantile lunatics suffering from delusions of grandeur that whatever power they have comes from themselves, and not whatever the US and the EU throw on the floor for them to hungrily devour. It's been like this for 20 years and more. The only thing you can do is laugh at their stupidity and get amazed every time walk into their own jokes.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the only reason Vucic went to Brussels (on Friday) is to avoid having Serbia accused of not attending meetings"

Well, Vucic pulled out of the meetings. Thaci came to meet and to discuss, but Vucic didn't want to hear his requests about Presheva. Better get used to hearing it, every time you ask about Serb rights in Kosovo you will hear about Albanian rights in Presheva.

And if you want to change borders, you will have to "give something to get something in return". And no, that doesn't mean you can get Trepca or Ujmani, because we won't exchange those even if you gave us Belgrade in return. A deal involves two parties agreeing and being sneaky will not win you a deal. The EU sees it too.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

This the problem. Serbia has been dealing wit h the belief that on the opposite side are reasonable, decent intelligent people. This has never been the case.
I am sure Merkel and everyone have been telling the Serbs how they understand, that they know what these crazies are like, and that they will deal with it when the time comes. But they never do.the time is now and still they do nothing to put these criminals in their place.
The anti Serb bigotry lives strong in Brussels. They made the lie and now don’t know how to stop it, even if they wanted to. The bureaucracy there still consists and is proud of those who engineered the break up of Yugoslavia.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)
==================
I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of. You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.

John

pre 6 godina

I admire Dacic, he says it like it is, calls a spade a spade and continues on in the best interests of his country. Good luck my friend, do whatever it takes to win your province back, you have my support. Most important of all: watch your back.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Both 'governments' should be badly beaten for what they did in the 90s and for the hate and fear they still keep alive.
(Tito reloaded, 7 September 2018 20:35)
===============================
OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.

Lunatic

pre 6 godina

Referencing your opposition as lunatic's isn't going to help your cause. This is perhaps what you would expect from the likes of Dacic. Bantering to your own masses for your own politic gain is quite clearly the only objective you hold. For people like yourself it's self preservation ahead of those your responsible for. Your constituents.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

You keep condemning everyone here
(Peggy)
is anybody from the 2 'governments' here on the site?
There are several solutions.
1st stay officially together join EU and then still a seperation is possible, plus people could move and work freely after a secession.
2nd split Kosovo, north to serbia, presevo if they want to kosovo.
3rd keep the status and work on reducing hate and fear of the other side. Instead of provocating politics, it would be better to bring the children together. Student exchange, weeks in the nature anything that helps to reduce hate and fear.
4th time machine and put the political leaders and their entourage from the 90s to Goli Otok in 1985.
In general it is a shame for the region that the warlords, propaganda guys, politicians from the 90s and their political inheritance are still at power in the republics of former yugoslavia.
People like thaci and vucic should be in prisons and not be politicians. They brought far too much suffering to the people in the past.

JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence."

I'm not 'Tito reloaded' and I'm not a socialist but I agree with many of his points. At the base of it all, I think we would say it doesn't matter how the borders are drawn, it doesn't matter whether Kosovo is inside or outside Serbia. After all, ethnicities are created over time and could be drawn and named very differently. When people fight over such things, they are being senseless.

I believe that God created us with a good nature but that we distort it through yielding to sin, through evil inclinations. Ethnicities can be fun. God created humans with creative minds. But the problem is when we yield to sin, and turn something into a tool of evil. The ultimate identity -- and the only identity that really matters -- is being identified with the crucified and risen Savior. All other identities disappear in the presence of his power and glory.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
----------

Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I only participated in conversions which are open to the public on B92 forums. Rest assured that I'll never participate in your private conversations since I have no time to waste!
---------

You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

I'm not here to entertain you, dear, so I couldn't care less whether you are entertained or not!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
====================
So who is this other Peggy who you think asked for your input?
It certainly wasn't me.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(icj1, 11 September 2018 03:43)

So who is this other Peggy
(Peggy, 12 September 2018 02:01)

That's the one who wrote on 8 September 2018 at 10:12 "tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence" :)

Chi

pre 6 godina

How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.
(Lenard, 7 September 2018 20:38)

That's about right Lenard, Vucic's 1000 Euro salary is about equivalent to your Nazi Croatian State GDP....

Albanopolis

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.

Chi

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

What's rich is that you continue to be ignorant and ill unformatted - stop reading the KLA Gazette and get your news from a reliable source. The biggest ethnic cleansing during the Balkan Wars was Serbs from the Krajina region (250,000+) out of the Nazi State of Croatia - even an uneducated fool like you can find this out. As far as raping and killing children, this started in your back yard prior to the war in 1990 - you know this, and i would assume you and your hateful comrades participated. It's also rich, that this incoming from you, belonging to the only know terrorist organization (KLA) in Europe.

Tommy Boy

pre 6 godina

"We're dealing with lunatics here"

That's rich coming from Milosevic's apprentice. Dacic, you were a minister in the government that inflicted the worst ethnic cleansing in Europe since WWII, killing children, raping women, burning innocent villagers alive. You and your friend Vucic are the definition of lunacy.
(Albanopolis, 7 September 2018 17:13)

Allow me to make a small wager by guessing that you are one of them CSers that's still in the grooming stage when it comes to lying and attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs.
However, I'll give you some credit for trying so hard and for using big words which must delight your employers and ignorant followers. Your comrades in key boards are not as ambitious as you are, for years all they are doing is attributing Albanian atrocities to Serbs and tirelessly repeating admitted and proven lies from CNN, BBC, and other biased and unreliable media outlets.

P.S. Got kidneys???

John

pre 6 godina

I admire Dacic, he says it like it is, calls a spade a spade and continues on in the best interests of his country. Good luck my friend, do whatever it takes to win your province back, you have my support. Most important of all: watch your back.

Ian

pre 6 godina

Haha! It is truley funny how some people can gind a way to spin this in their own crazy heads as Serbia doing something wrong. The hypocracy is blinding. Albanians want to have independence because they are a mojority in certain regions. Yet when Serbia want thr same for its people it is spun into some kind of aggression. Its perfectly clear which side is pushing things to the point of no return. One thing i can guarantee is that when things get out of control the outcome will be drastcally different that 1999. The support to Serbia is 100x greater and the support for albanians is much weaker.

vratnica

pre 6 godina

All these ALBO comments about the 90's. Dude it's 2018 perhaps your people are living in the caveman days, Serbia will always be better off without all the egg heads. Good riddance go back to Albania I'm sure your family missis you.

Ivan

pre 6 godina

The only lunatics here are Serbs who are running Serbia today. Weren't they the same who ran Serbia during the 1990s? Serbs seem to not be able to move.

LOL

pre 6 godina

Not just lunatics, but childish infantile lunatics suffering from delusions of grandeur that whatever power they have comes from themselves, and not whatever the US and the EU throw on the floor for them to hungrily devour. It's been like this for 20 years and more. The only thing you can do is laugh at their stupidity and get amazed every time walk into their own jokes.

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Serbs like to project their own issues on others, but they are being taught a very valuable lesson in International Relations: You don’t win by projecting, you win by being real! And you are not being real and straightforward right now, you are undermining the process by provoking through unauthorized visits. You can visit when the north is yours and Presevo Valley goes to Kosovo. You never wanted these negotiations to happen, and that’s why Lithuania is being used to block your EU chapters. The EU is not blind.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Ivica get a job stop BS every one especially the delusional Serbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPyNTqCI3To your the lunatic fringe. That's it keep practicing your belly dancing routine and learn more Turk folk songs what a talent. How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Both 'governments' should be badly beaten for what they did in the 90s and for the hate and fear they still keep alive.
(Tito reloaded, 7 September 2018 20:35)
===============================
OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

This the problem. Serbia has been dealing wit h the belief that on the opposite side are reasonable, decent intelligent people. This has never been the case.
I am sure Merkel and everyone have been telling the Serbs how they understand, that they know what these crazies are like, and that they will deal with it when the time comes. But they never do.the time is now and still they do nothing to put these criminals in their place.
The anti Serb bigotry lives strong in Brussels. They made the lie and now don’t know how to stop it, even if they wanted to. The bureaucracy there still consists and is proud of those who engineered the break up of Yugoslavia.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.

Provokacija

pre 6 godina

Why would Vucic visit Kosovo when the negotiations are still ongoing? He can’t wait until a deal is reached? Or does he want to capitalize politically? These negotiations are not meant for politicians to play games with them, they are meant to establish a permanent solution. Visits like that can happen afterwards, not now, as now they can be seen as provocations.

Genti

pre 6 godina

"the only reason Vucic went to Brussels (on Friday) is to avoid having Serbia accused of not attending meetings"

Well, Vucic pulled out of the meetings. Thaci came to meet and to discuss, but Vucic didn't want to hear his requests about Presheva. Better get used to hearing it, every time you ask about Serb rights in Kosovo you will hear about Albanian rights in Presheva.

And if you want to change borders, you will have to "give something to get something in return". And no, that doesn't mean you can get Trepca or Ujmani, because we won't exchange those even if you gave us Belgrade in return. A deal involves two parties agreeing and being sneaky will not win you a deal. The EU sees it too.

Tito reloaded

pre 6 godina

You keep condemning everyone here
(Peggy)
is anybody from the 2 'governments' here on the site?
There are several solutions.
1st stay officially together join EU and then still a seperation is possible, plus people could move and work freely after a secession.
2nd split Kosovo, north to serbia, presevo if they want to kosovo.
3rd keep the status and work on reducing hate and fear of the other side. Instead of provocating politics, it would be better to bring the children together. Student exchange, weeks in the nature anything that helps to reduce hate and fear.
4th time machine and put the political leaders and their entourage from the 90s to Goli Otok in 1985.
In general it is a shame for the region that the warlords, propaganda guys, politicians from the 90s and their political inheritance are still at power in the republics of former yugoslavia.
People like thaci and vucic should be in prisons and not be politicians. They brought far too much suffering to the people in the past.

Lunatic

pre 6 godina

Referencing your opposition as lunatic's isn't going to help your cause. This is perhaps what you would expect from the likes of Dacic. Bantering to your own masses for your own politic gain is quite clearly the only objective you hold. For people like yourself it's self preservation ahead of those your responsible for. Your constituents.

JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"OK, and then what?
You keep condemning everyone here all the time but I have not seen one bit of a solution to the problem from you nor any opinion on whether Kosovo deserves independence or not.
So how about you lay your cards on the table, tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence."

I'm not 'Tito reloaded' and I'm not a socialist but I agree with many of his points. At the base of it all, I think we would say it doesn't matter how the borders are drawn, it doesn't matter whether Kosovo is inside or outside Serbia. After all, ethnicities are created over time and could be drawn and named very differently. When people fight over such things, they are being senseless.

I believe that God created us with a good nature but that we distort it through yielding to sin, through evil inclinations. Ethnicities can be fun. God created humans with creative minds. But the problem is when we yield to sin, and turn something into a tool of evil. The ultimate identity -- and the only identity that really matters -- is being identified with the crucified and risen Savior. All other identities disappear in the presence of his power and glory.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)
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I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of. You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
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Kindly keep out of a conversation you are not part of.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I only participated in conversions which are open to the public on B92 forums. Rest assured that I'll never participate in your private conversations since I have no time to waste!
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You are neither smart nor entertaining despite what you think.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

I'm not here to entertain you, dear, so I couldn't care less whether you are entertained or not!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
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So who is this other Peggy who you think asked for your input?
It certainly wasn't me.

icj1

pre 6 godina

tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(Peggy, 8 September 2018 10:12)

The solution is already achieved dear with Kosovo being independent from Serbia and Kosovo does not have to tell a certain Peggy anything.
(icj1, 9 September 2018 17:29)

I didn't ask Kosovo nor you anything.
(Peggy, 10 September 2018 02:44)

Of course, dear, which is why I said nothing to you. I replied to another "Peggy" who asked to be told how a solution might be coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence.
(icj1, 11 September 2018 03:43)

So who is this other Peggy
(Peggy, 12 September 2018 02:01)

That's the one who wrote on 8 September 2018 at 10:12 "tell us how do you see a solution coming about and whether Kosovo deserves independence" :)

Chi

pre 6 godina

How much do you get paid anyways? Vucic makes barley 1,000 Euros as president of very poor Serbia.
(Lenard, 7 September 2018 20:38)

That's about right Lenard, Vucic's 1000 Euro salary is about equivalent to your Nazi Croatian State GDP....