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Tuesday, 29.05.2018.

11:23

"Creators of fake picture of Serbia in France still there"

Changing the image of Serbia in France is a very important, but difficult task, because the echoes of the propaganda that once existed are still being felt.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)
(icj1, 3 June 2018 01:40)

It must be Albo English because living in Serbia does not automatically make you a Serb since this name refers to an ethnic group plus there are other ethnic groups in Serbia such as Hungarians, Albos etc. Although they are not ethnic Serbs they are citizens of the Republic of Serbia.

If there no end to my having to educate you???????

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 2 June 2018 06:34)

I mention 500,000 Syrians losing there lives and your off with the pixies about radical Muslims. The war was started by the US arming the opposition and radical Muslims mate. In Iraq the US attacked that country based on fake information made up by the US. In both Iraq and Syria the leadership did not nurture radical Islam. Both Iraq and Syria had secular governments. In Syria the Christians are with Assad because the alternative is US backed radical Muslims.

Monthly job creation figures released in the US are mostly low paid work at $7.50/$12.50 an hour. People on those wages must work two jobs just to keep their heads above water and they can’t afford medical insurance.

You cannot compare a burger flipper in the US and the same in Serbia because the cost of living are different. Rent is higher in the US than Serbia; the cost of groceries in the US are higher than in Serbia.

The salary for a primary teacher in Oklahoma is $33,000. They are so drastically underpaid they are forced to donate plasma, work multiple jobs, and go to food pantries to provide for their families. They live from pay check to pay check.

Now these teachers earn more than a burger flipper!!!!!!!
According to their pay scale they are much richer than a US paid burger flipper but due to cost of living being high they have problems living on that salary. See the connection??????

And if you’re a Serb than I am French.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
(Peggy, 1 June 2018 02:03)

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)

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JS

pre 6 godina

"...it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?"

You seem to have a problem understanding three simple letters: Y-E-S. But the bigger problem is that you think ethnicity matters. You remind me of Seselj.

"So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well."

Radical Muslims attack democratic governments and themselves, the US military intervenes to help the many people caught in the violence, and then you turn around and blame the US for the violence. If you don't see the logical problem with your attempt to blame everything bad on the US, then I will never be able to help you.

"Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages."

You cite the wage of a burger flipper and then say "that's a low wage." No duh its a low wage. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

In southern Serbia, taxi drivers earn 600-800 dinars per day. Working ten hours per day, that is $0.60-0.80/hour. With the cost of living being 40% less than in the States, that translates into $0.84-1.12/hour in American wages. That makes an American burger flipper ten times wealthier than a Serbian burger flipper. That is something to brag about, Seselj.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 1 June 2018 22:43)

I dont care where you live be it KiM, Vojvodina, Serbia proper or the US. Serbia has other ethnic groups such as Albos, Bosniaks, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Romanians so it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well. I must agree its all hyperbole.

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia

Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb."

So if I have French citizenship and live in France, I would not thereby be French?!? That's really strange thinking.

"Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships."

I do not live in KiM. And nearly the rest of the country is mono-cultural; so you're statement doesn't really apply.

"So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs. I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much."

I moved to Serbia to make my home here. In fact, I'm the only one in my family to choose this path. If I didn't love Serbs, I would not have moved here. I cannot say that Serbs are good in general because humans are evil from birth (including myself). But there are many fun, interesting Serbs. It has been a pleasant, if sometimes bumpy, experience.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage."

Only as much, or more?

"I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy."

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

"The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL."

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia.

"Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo."

I do not live in KiM. Other than Vojvodina, the rest of Serbia is mono-cultural (except for small pockets of Gypsies)...so what else could I be but Serb?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 19:44)

To answer your original question when the US formulates its policy does it ask Macron, May, Merkel or Dacic? No, they don’t ask anyone since it formulates its policy that suits the US.

The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage. I don’t care what the French think about Serbs; good or bad.

I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy.

The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL.

Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.
(Zoran, 29 May 2018 16:55)

No, dear, they did not blame Serbs; they blamed criminals like Mladic who committed genocide. Just because Mladic happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not make all Serbs criminals.

As for ICTY, that court was proposed by Russia, approved by Russia and all judges were vetted and approved by Russia (several of them more than once) over almost a quarter century of Court's existence. So, if you believe that Russia's goal is to humiliate you, feel free to sort that out with Russia!

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!
(Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj, 31 May 2018 17:47)
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And many haven't evolved at all, especially the ones that went to Kosovo.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.
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@JS, I see you are choosing your words carefully.

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships.

So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs.
I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"No, but where are you getting this stuff from?"

It's the logical conclusion when you combine your statement with your ultra-nationalist views.

"Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?"

It takes third grade reading skills to figure that one out. Having stated "what I am" at least fifteen times, it isn't necessary to repeat.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?"

It is one thing to be thoughtful, another thing to be a hateful ultra-nationalist like sj. I cannot remember sj saying a single positive thing about any western government. It is one thing to be thoughtful, it is an entirely different thing to bash without reservation.

"Well "New Kosova Report" for one."

Never heard of it. Good job with the humor. Share some more... :)

"You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian."

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.

"Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego."

Ahhh, the speculation. Prime material for tabloids. :)

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Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj

pre 6 godina

You people are truly the oldest in the world
(ChiTown, 30 May 2018 10:48)

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.
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No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?
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"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)
(JS, 31 May 2018 11:06)
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Well "New Kosova Report" for one.
You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian.
Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego.

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sj

pre 6 godina

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?
(JS, 31 May 2018 12:30)

No, but where are you getting this stuff from? Talk about smoking wacky to-baccy, what are you on?

Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 11:14)

Me thinks you have no idea what you are talking about.

“It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. - Your post not mine. So what are you talking about?

If not an Albo, what are you?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not."

Your post, not mine.

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?"

It doesn't matter whether you wrote that or not. If you want to belittle France for thinking that they are still a superpower, you need to keep in mind that your own nation is not one and never was. Therefore, you have no basis for criticizing France because they lost something because your country never even achieved superpower status. Think about that for a minute.

"OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what?"

Keep dreaming. You wish I was an ethnic Albanian. Keep in mind that when you visit my Serbia (in Vojvodina, Belgrade, Sumadija, the south, Sandzak, KiM, etc.), you are just a visitor. Don't forget that.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors."

If you had noticed my earlier comments, you would know that I am an ethnic Serb. Therefore, I was adding "living in Serbia" (not, by the way, in our southern province of Kosovo) to "being an ethnic Serb." And in sj's ultra-nationalist views (which I don't subscribe to), I would be "more Serb" than him so it is doubly crazy that sj calls me an Albanian. To summarize: I am more Serbian than sj, so what is this nonsense about calling me an Albanian?

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.

"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)

I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?

You need to be far more knowledgably to converse with me and that is why you like icj so much. It talks drivel, nonsense and its attempts at turning a sentence around to make you foolish is so puerile its laughable.

OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what? Naturally icj appeals to you since your intellect hovers around the 45-percentile band just like icjs.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.
(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)
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Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors.
icj1 is the last person you should praise unless you are icj1 with multiple personalities.
The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj & Peggy

The simple point is this: don't critize someone if you don't have something better to offer. It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. But your beloved country is not a superpower either, and never has been. So you really have nothing to talk about.

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05)

Marioaj, based on your theory, I think Adam and Eve were also Albanian! Adamaj = Adamoxha = Albanian and Eveaja = Eveoxhi = Albanian. You people are truly the oldest in the world..... soooooo ignorant! Keep digging to find some history, or lack thereof, in Europe, but your answer lies in Anatolia buddy - seek and you shall find.....

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sj

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)

I read my posting again and for the life of me can’t see where I mentioned the economy or political situation in France. I did talk about the French like the Brits living in the past thinking it’s the 19 century and they are still super powers.

What is it with you Albos? Are you all dyslexic?

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Niko

pre 6 godina

@ Zoran
Yes, we Albanians, Muslims and Croats are so dumb to deserve our own states , yet at the same time we are smart enough to convince NATO to give you for 78 days a fraction of the experience you gave us from 1991 to 1999 and pull wool over their eyes.
You should be thankful that Serbia exist at current state.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)
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Is your middle name icj?

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!
(the truth, 29 May 2018 15:46)

The Truthaj, I only wish that everything we were accused of actually happened. Europe would be a lot better off for it. Fortunately for the Albos, Croats and certain Bosnians, the Western media was the most active propaganda machine since the Nazis in WW2. Think about this for a moment, and you will realize how lucky you are and were. If everything the Western propaganda machine reported was true, you might not be trolling this forum - you might just be resting in one of those fictitious mass graves. See, be thankful, next time the propaganda might be the truth.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..
(Ljiljana stajic, 29 May 2018 16:09)
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God bless you.
There are some "Serbs" on this site who tell us to keep out of Serbia's business. You see, because we don't live in Serbia we should have no opinion about what goes on there.
They are happy to receive our help but not our input.
I too have spoken to others about the events of the 90s. I remember calling a TV network to correct their ridiculous reporting and asking the producer of that network's news if Muslims had crosses because they were showing footage of a Serb funeral and passing it off as a Muslim funeral hoping to get sympathy for Muslims in Sarajevo.
People carried crosses with Cyrillic writing on them.
I also went on the radio speaking about the Red Cross telling me that they send any donations to Croat and Muslim areas when I asked if I could make a donation to the Serbs in Sarajevo through them.
To this day, like you, I try to get the word out as much as I can so when some "Serb" tells me to mind my own business I ask him if he wants me to stop helping as well.

Again, God bless you and keep up the good work.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05
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Would that make any difference to the truth?
Maybe this guy is more interested in truth and justice than towing the Albanian line even if he had some Albanian blood in him.

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Mario

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back

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JS

pre 6 godina

@sj

"Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke."

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.

Now we are proud for standing up against this evilness as the rest of the world wakes up. The Croats and Albanians are the only two people who get along with none of their neighbours. They still live in the 90s and can only repeat the propaganda of the last century. Serbia will continue to rise from the ashes while our friends are getting stronger and stronger.

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Ljiljana stajic

pre 6 godina

In UK was just a same. I have spent 12yrs.lobbying TV, newspapers and radio telling British nice things about Serbs as a nation.
I had numerous interviews. And went head to head with British high ranking an army officer.
Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..

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the truth

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!

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Darmon

pre 6 godina

The problem in France is that the Albanian lobby is much stronger than Serbian, which is nearly not existing. President Macron is like all the others, determined to give to Kosovo a total independence, including the UN and EU membership.Lately it was announced that M. Levitty the member of parliament will become Thaci's advisor, so everything is clear in French attitude towards Serbia.Mais un grand merci a Arnaud Gouillon pour son aide et sa sincerite. Il est courageux et plus que gentil.

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Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

What the media did to Serbia during the war is disgusting, and Serbs have paid for it over the years since. Whether Kosovo Albanians or Bosnian Muslims, some individuals reaped the rewards of this deception. Unfortunately, what is given doesn't guarantee success. As we see today, there aren't too many success stories from these handouts. Serbia, on the other hand, is rising from the ashes to be a stronger country than it was prior.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke.

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Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

What the media did to Serbia during the war is disgusting, and Serbs have paid for it over the years since. Whether Kosovo Albanians or Bosnian Muslims, some individuals reaped the rewards of this deception. Unfortunately, what is given doesn't guarantee success. As we see today, there aren't too many success stories from these handouts. Serbia, on the other hand, is rising from the ashes to be a stronger country than it was prior.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke.

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Darmon

pre 6 godina

The problem in France is that the Albanian lobby is much stronger than Serbian, which is nearly not existing. President Macron is like all the others, determined to give to Kosovo a total independence, including the UN and EU membership.Lately it was announced that M. Levitty the member of parliament will become Thaci's advisor, so everything is clear in French attitude towards Serbia.Mais un grand merci a Arnaud Gouillon pour son aide et sa sincerite. Il est courageux et plus que gentil.

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the truth

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.

Now we are proud for standing up against this evilness as the rest of the world wakes up. The Croats and Albanians are the only two people who get along with none of their neighbours. They still live in the 90s and can only repeat the propaganda of the last century. Serbia will continue to rise from the ashes while our friends are getting stronger and stronger.

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Ljiljana stajic

pre 6 godina

In UK was just a same. I have spent 12yrs.lobbying TV, newspapers and radio telling British nice things about Serbs as a nation.
I had numerous interviews. And went head to head with British high ranking an army officer.
Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..

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Mario

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..
(Ljiljana stajic, 29 May 2018 16:09)
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God bless you.
There are some "Serbs" on this site who tell us to keep out of Serbia's business. You see, because we don't live in Serbia we should have no opinion about what goes on there.
They are happy to receive our help but not our input.
I too have spoken to others about the events of the 90s. I remember calling a TV network to correct their ridiculous reporting and asking the producer of that network's news if Muslims had crosses because they were showing footage of a Serb funeral and passing it off as a Muslim funeral hoping to get sympathy for Muslims in Sarajevo.
People carried crosses with Cyrillic writing on them.
I also went on the radio speaking about the Red Cross telling me that they send any donations to Croat and Muslim areas when I asked if I could make a donation to the Serbs in Sarajevo through them.
To this day, like you, I try to get the word out as much as I can so when some "Serb" tells me to mind my own business I ask him if he wants me to stop helping as well.

Again, God bless you and keep up the good work.

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Niko

pre 6 godina

@ Zoran
Yes, we Albanians, Muslims and Croats are so dumb to deserve our own states , yet at the same time we are smart enough to convince NATO to give you for 78 days a fraction of the experience you gave us from 1991 to 1999 and pull wool over their eyes.
You should be thankful that Serbia exist at current state.

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05)

Marioaj, based on your theory, I think Adam and Eve were also Albanian! Adamaj = Adamoxha = Albanian and Eveaja = Eveoxhi = Albanian. You people are truly the oldest in the world..... soooooo ignorant! Keep digging to find some history, or lack thereof, in Europe, but your answer lies in Anatolia buddy - seek and you shall find.....

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!
(the truth, 29 May 2018 15:46)

The Truthaj, I only wish that everything we were accused of actually happened. Europe would be a lot better off for it. Fortunately for the Albos, Croats and certain Bosnians, the Western media was the most active propaganda machine since the Nazis in WW2. Think about this for a moment, and you will realize how lucky you are and were. If everything the Western propaganda machine reported was true, you might not be trolling this forum - you might just be resting in one of those fictitious mass graves. See, be thankful, next time the propaganda might be the truth.

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sj

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)

I read my posting again and for the life of me can’t see where I mentioned the economy or political situation in France. I did talk about the French like the Brits living in the past thinking it’s the 19 century and they are still super powers.

What is it with you Albos? Are you all dyslexic?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@sj

"Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke."

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05
=============================
Would that make any difference to the truth?
Maybe this guy is more interested in truth and justice than towing the Albanian line even if he had some Albanian blood in him.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)
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Is your middle name icj?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj & Peggy

The simple point is this: don't critize someone if you don't have something better to offer. It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. But your beloved country is not a superpower either, and never has been. So you really have nothing to talk about.

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.
(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)
===========================
Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors.
icj1 is the last person you should praise unless you are icj1 with multiple personalities.
The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)

I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?

You need to be far more knowledgably to converse with me and that is why you like icj so much. It talks drivel, nonsense and its attempts at turning a sentence around to make you foolish is so puerile its laughable.

OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what? Naturally icj appeals to you since your intellect hovers around the 45-percentile band just like icjs.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors."

If you had noticed my earlier comments, you would know that I am an ethnic Serb. Therefore, I was adding "living in Serbia" (not, by the way, in our southern province of Kosovo) to "being an ethnic Serb." And in sj's ultra-nationalist views (which I don't subscribe to), I would be "more Serb" than him so it is doubly crazy that sj calls me an Albanian. To summarize: I am more Serbian than sj, so what is this nonsense about calling me an Albanian?

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.

"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?"

It doesn't matter whether you wrote that or not. If you want to belittle France for thinking that they are still a superpower, you need to keep in mind that your own nation is not one and never was. Therefore, you have no basis for criticizing France because they lost something because your country never even achieved superpower status. Think about that for a minute.

"OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what?"

Keep dreaming. You wish I was an ethnic Albanian. Keep in mind that when you visit my Serbia (in Vojvodina, Belgrade, Sumadija, the south, Sandzak, KiM, etc.), you are just a visitor. Don't forget that.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 11:14)

Me thinks you have no idea what you are talking about.

“It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. - Your post not mine. So what are you talking about?

If not an Albo, what are you?

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sj

pre 6 godina

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?
(JS, 31 May 2018 12:30)

No, but where are you getting this stuff from? Talk about smoking wacky to-baccy, what are you on?

Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?"

It is one thing to be thoughtful, another thing to be a hateful ultra-nationalist like sj. I cannot remember sj saying a single positive thing about any western government. It is one thing to be thoughtful, it is an entirely different thing to bash without reservation.

"Well "New Kosova Report" for one."

Never heard of it. Good job with the humor. Share some more... :)

"You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian."

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.

"Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego."

Ahhh, the speculation. Prime material for tabloids. :)

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not."

Your post, not mine.

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?

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Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj

pre 6 godina

You people are truly the oldest in the world
(ChiTown, 30 May 2018 10:48)

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.
(Zoran, 29 May 2018 16:55)

No, dear, they did not blame Serbs; they blamed criminals like Mladic who committed genocide. Just because Mladic happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not make all Serbs criminals.

As for ICTY, that court was proposed by Russia, approved by Russia and all judges were vetted and approved by Russia (several of them more than once) over almost a quarter century of Court's existence. So, if you believe that Russia's goal is to humiliate you, feel free to sort that out with Russia!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
(Peggy, 1 June 2018 02:03)

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)

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sj

pre 6 godina

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)
(icj1, 3 June 2018 01:40)

It must be Albo English because living in Serbia does not automatically make you a Serb since this name refers to an ethnic group plus there are other ethnic groups in Serbia such as Hungarians, Albos etc. Although they are not ethnic Serbs they are citizens of the Republic of Serbia.

If there no end to my having to educate you???????

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.
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No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?
==========

"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)
(JS, 31 May 2018 11:06)
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Well "New Kosova Report" for one.
You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian.
Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"No, but where are you getting this stuff from?"

It's the logical conclusion when you combine your statement with your ultra-nationalist views.

"Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?"

It takes third grade reading skills to figure that one out. Having stated "what I am" at least fifteen times, it isn't necessary to repeat.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.
======================
@JS, I see you are choosing your words carefully.

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships.

So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs.
I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!
(Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj, 31 May 2018 17:47)
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And many haven't evolved at all, especially the ones that went to Kosovo.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 19:44)

To answer your original question when the US formulates its policy does it ask Macron, May, Merkel or Dacic? No, they don’t ask anyone since it formulates its policy that suits the US.

The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage. I don’t care what the French think about Serbs; good or bad.

I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy.

The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL.

Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb."

So if I have French citizenship and live in France, I would not thereby be French?!? That's really strange thinking.

"Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships."

I do not live in KiM. And nearly the rest of the country is mono-cultural; so you're statement doesn't really apply.

"So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs. I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much."

I moved to Serbia to make my home here. In fact, I'm the only one in my family to choose this path. If I didn't love Serbs, I would not have moved here. I cannot say that Serbs are good in general because humans are evil from birth (including myself). But there are many fun, interesting Serbs. It has been a pleasant, if sometimes bumpy, experience.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage."

Only as much, or more?

"I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy."

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

"The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL."

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia.

"Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo."

I do not live in KiM. Other than Vojvodina, the rest of Serbia is mono-cultural (except for small pockets of Gypsies)...so what else could I be but Serb?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 1 June 2018 22:43)

I dont care where you live be it KiM, Vojvodina, Serbia proper or the US. Serbia has other ethnic groups such as Albos, Bosniaks, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Romanians so it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well. I must agree its all hyperbole.

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia

Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages.

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JS

pre 6 godina

"...it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?"

You seem to have a problem understanding three simple letters: Y-E-S. But the bigger problem is that you think ethnicity matters. You remind me of Seselj.

"So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well."

Radical Muslims attack democratic governments and themselves, the US military intervenes to help the many people caught in the violence, and then you turn around and blame the US for the violence. If you don't see the logical problem with your attempt to blame everything bad on the US, then I will never be able to help you.

"Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages."

You cite the wage of a burger flipper and then say "that's a low wage." No duh its a low wage. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

In southern Serbia, taxi drivers earn 600-800 dinars per day. Working ten hours per day, that is $0.60-0.80/hour. With the cost of living being 40% less than in the States, that translates into $0.84-1.12/hour in American wages. That makes an American burger flipper ten times wealthier than a Serbian burger flipper. That is something to brag about, Seselj.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 2 June 2018 06:34)

I mention 500,000 Syrians losing there lives and your off with the pixies about radical Muslims. The war was started by the US arming the opposition and radical Muslims mate. In Iraq the US attacked that country based on fake information made up by the US. In both Iraq and Syria the leadership did not nurture radical Islam. Both Iraq and Syria had secular governments. In Syria the Christians are with Assad because the alternative is US backed radical Muslims.

Monthly job creation figures released in the US are mostly low paid work at $7.50/$12.50 an hour. People on those wages must work two jobs just to keep their heads above water and they can’t afford medical insurance.

You cannot compare a burger flipper in the US and the same in Serbia because the cost of living are different. Rent is higher in the US than Serbia; the cost of groceries in the US are higher than in Serbia.

The salary for a primary teacher in Oklahoma is $33,000. They are so drastically underpaid they are forced to donate plasma, work multiple jobs, and go to food pantries to provide for their families. They live from pay check to pay check.

Now these teachers earn more than a burger flipper!!!!!!!
According to their pay scale they are much richer than a US paid burger flipper but due to cost of living being high they have problems living on that salary. See the connection??????

And if you’re a Serb than I am French.

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the truth

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!

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sj

pre 6 godina

Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke.

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Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

What the media did to Serbia during the war is disgusting, and Serbs have paid for it over the years since. Whether Kosovo Albanians or Bosnian Muslims, some individuals reaped the rewards of this deception. Unfortunately, what is given doesn't guarantee success. As we see today, there aren't too many success stories from these handouts. Serbia, on the other hand, is rising from the ashes to be a stronger country than it was prior.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.

Now we are proud for standing up against this evilness as the rest of the world wakes up. The Croats and Albanians are the only two people who get along with none of their neighbours. They still live in the 90s and can only repeat the propaganda of the last century. Serbia will continue to rise from the ashes while our friends are getting stronger and stronger.

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Ljiljana stajic

pre 6 godina

In UK was just a same. I have spent 12yrs.lobbying TV, newspapers and radio telling British nice things about Serbs as a nation.
I had numerous interviews. And went head to head with British high ranking an army officer.
Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..

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JS

pre 6 godina

@sj

"Yep, I'm losing a lot of sleep over what the French think about Serbs. France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not. Macron tries to mirror Trump about making France great again, what a joke."

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?

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Mario

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05
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Would that make any difference to the truth?
Maybe this guy is more interested in truth and justice than towing the Albanian line even if he had some Albanian blood in him.

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

To all Serb trolls,
If it was propaganda as you claim, it will have gone away in no time! But , the truth what you guys did in Balkans(Croatia,Bosnia&Kosova) will never go away, so live with it for eternity!
(the truth, 29 May 2018 15:46)

The Truthaj, I only wish that everything we were accused of actually happened. Europe would be a lot better off for it. Fortunately for the Albos, Croats and certain Bosnians, the Western media was the most active propaganda machine since the Nazis in WW2. Think about this for a moment, and you will realize how lucky you are and were. If everything the Western propaganda machine reported was true, you might not be trolling this forum - you might just be resting in one of those fictitious mass graves. See, be thankful, next time the propaganda might be the truth.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)
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Is your middle name icj?

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

Other Serbs like myself worked tirelessly promoting Serbia Serbs.
Sending humanitarian aid to Serbia 🇷🇸 one must never stop its a name of the game..
(Ljiljana stajic, 29 May 2018 16:09)
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God bless you.
There are some "Serbs" on this site who tell us to keep out of Serbia's business. You see, because we don't live in Serbia we should have no opinion about what goes on there.
They are happy to receive our help but not our input.
I too have spoken to others about the events of the 90s. I remember calling a TV network to correct their ridiculous reporting and asking the producer of that network's news if Muslims had crosses because they were showing footage of a Serb funeral and passing it off as a Muslim funeral hoping to get sympathy for Muslims in Sarajevo.
People carried crosses with Cyrillic writing on them.
I also went on the radio speaking about the Red Cross telling me that they send any donations to Croat and Muslim areas when I asked if I could make a donation to the Serbs in Sarajevo through them.
To this day, like you, I try to get the word out as much as I can so when some "Serb" tells me to mind my own business I ask him if he wants me to stop helping as well.

Again, God bless you and keep up the good work.

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Darmon

pre 6 godina

The problem in France is that the Albanian lobby is much stronger than Serbian, which is nearly not existing. President Macron is like all the others, determined to give to Kosovo a total independence, including the UN and EU membership.Lately it was announced that M. Levitty the member of parliament will become Thaci's advisor, so everything is clear in French attitude towards Serbia.Mais un grand merci a Arnaud Gouillon pour son aide et sa sincerite. Il est courageux et plus que gentil.

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Niko

pre 6 godina

@ Zoran
Yes, we Albanians, Muslims and Croats are so dumb to deserve our own states , yet at the same time we are smart enough to convince NATO to give you for 78 days a fraction of the experience you gave us from 1991 to 1999 and pull wool over their eyes.
You should be thankful that Serbia exist at current state.

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ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Arnaud Gouillon should do some heritage research. Im sure if he looks far back he will find that he is albanian.

Arnaut=Albanian in turkish

Arnautovic, Arnaut, Arnaud. All albanians back
(Mario, 29 May 2018 21:05)

Marioaj, based on your theory, I think Adam and Eve were also Albanian! Adamaj = Adamoxha = Albanian and Eveaja = Eveoxhi = Albanian. You people are truly the oldest in the world..... soooooo ignorant! Keep digging to find some history, or lack thereof, in Europe, but your answer lies in Anatolia buddy - seek and you shall find.....

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sj

pre 6 godina

So what you're saying is that France should follow Serbia's example for economic and political success?
(JS, 29 May 2018 18:25)

I read my posting again and for the life of me can’t see where I mentioned the economy or political situation in France. I did talk about the French like the Brits living in the past thinking it’s the 19 century and they are still super powers.

What is it with you Albos? Are you all dyslexic?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj & Peggy

The simple point is this: don't critize someone if you don't have something better to offer. It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. But your beloved country is not a superpower either, and never has been. So you really have nothing to talk about.

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

You're again calling me an Albanian but I'm the one living in Serbia not you. And Peggy's question is more a compliment than criticism because icj is ten times wittier than sj is intelligent.
(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)
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Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors.
icj1 is the last person you should praise unless you are icj1 with multiple personalities.
The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Living in Serbia doesn't make you a Serb. Many Albanians live there and Serbia is full of traitors."

If you had noticed my earlier comments, you would know that I am an ethnic Serb. Therefore, I was adding "living in Serbia" (not, by the way, in our southern province of Kosovo) to "being an ethnic Serb." And in sj's ultra-nationalist views (which I don't subscribe to), I would be "more Serb" than him so it is doubly crazy that sj calls me an Albanian. To summarize: I am more Serbian than sj, so what is this nonsense about calling me an Albanian?

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.

"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)

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sj

pre 6 godina

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?
(JS, 31 May 2018 12:30)

No, but where are you getting this stuff from? Talk about smoking wacky to-baccy, what are you on?

Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

And, as I have noted before, sj is an ethnic Serb who repeatedly bashes "the West" but lives there and takes its benefits. Hypocricy.
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No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?
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"The fact that Albanians and Croats can come to this site and spew their venom at will is a testament to Serbia's tolerance. You can't say the same thing about your sites."

Which sites are "my sites"? Please humor me some more. :)
(JS, 31 May 2018 11:06)
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Well "New Kosova Report" for one.
You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian.
Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"No, it's not hypocrisy. If you have a thinking mind then you are not going to agree with everything your government does, especially when the government changes. Only idiots would not examine their country and see it how it really is. How else are we supposed to change anything if we think all's rosy? You still think we shouldn't be judgmental of our governments?"

It is one thing to be thoughtful, another thing to be a hateful ultra-nationalist like sj. I cannot remember sj saying a single positive thing about any western government. It is one thing to be thoughtful, it is an entirely different thing to bash without reservation.

"Well "New Kosova Report" for one."

Never heard of it. Good job with the humor. Share some more... :)

"You can stop the pretense. You are no more a Serb than I am Albanian."

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.

"Actually it's not a stretch to assume that you are icj1's alter ego."

Ahhh, the speculation. Prime material for tabloids. :)

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 30 May 2018 23:29)

I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?

You need to be far more knowledgably to converse with me and that is why you like icj so much. It talks drivel, nonsense and its attempts at turning a sentence around to make you foolish is so puerile its laughable.

OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what? Naturally icj appeals to you since your intellect hovers around the 45-percentile band just like icjs.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"I have never said Serbia was a super power. Where do you get this stuff from? Your imagination?"

It doesn't matter whether you wrote that or not. If you want to belittle France for thinking that they are still a superpower, you need to keep in mind that your own nation is not one and never was. Therefore, you have no basis for criticizing France because they lost something because your country never even achieved superpower status. Think about that for a minute.

"OK you are an Albo living in my Serbia. So what?"

Keep dreaming. You wish I was an ethnic Albanian. Keep in mind that when you visit my Serbia (in Vojvodina, Belgrade, Sumadija, the south, Sandzak, KiM, etc.), you are just a visitor. Don't forget that.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 11:14)

Me thinks you have no idea what you are talking about.

“It might be true that France and Britain still consider themselves world powers. - Your post not mine. So what are you talking about?

If not an Albo, what are you?

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"France is much like Great Britain, living in a past and believing it is still important when it's not."

Your post, not mine.

So when the United States makes decisions on foreign policy, they don't call on Macron and Le Drian but Brnabic and Dacic. Is that what you are saying?

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Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj

pre 6 godina

You people are truly the oldest in the world
(ChiTown, 30 May 2018 10:48)

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"No, but where are you getting this stuff from?"

It's the logical conclusion when you combine your statement with your ultra-nationalist views.

"Now since you imply you are not an Albo what are you then?"

It takes third grade reading skills to figure that one out. Having stated "what I am" at least fifteen times, it isn't necessary to repeat.

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am much more of a Serb than sj. I am not only a citizen of the Republic of Serbia, I also live here. Just because I am not a neighbor-hating ultra-nationalist doesn't make me any less of a Serb.
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@JS, I see you are choosing your words carefully.

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships.

So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs.
I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb.
(Peggy, 1 June 2018 02:03)

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)

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Peggy

pre 6 godina

That's nothing, look at TiranAsaurus.
Albanians populated the Planet Earth 65 million years ago!
(Berisha Honchaj-Atamanaj, 31 May 2018 17:47)
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And many haven't evolved at all, especially the ones that went to Kosovo.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

The fake news was strong in the 90s, when the West ruled supreme. They blamed Serbs for crimes committed by Muslims, Croats and Albanians. They exaggerated everything Serbs did and covered up the crimes committed against Serbs. They set up a fake court to humiliate us but we survived and it made us stronger.
(Zoran, 29 May 2018 16:55)

No, dear, they did not blame Serbs; they blamed criminals like Mladic who committed genocide. Just because Mladic happened to be of Serb ethnicity, that does not make all Serbs criminals.

As for ICTY, that court was proposed by Russia, approved by Russia and all judges were vetted and approved by Russia (several of them more than once) over almost a quarter century of Court's existence. So, if you believe that Russia's goal is to humiliate you, feel free to sort that out with Russia!

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 31 May 2018 19:44)

To answer your original question when the US formulates its policy does it ask Macron, May, Merkel or Dacic? No, they don’t ask anyone since it formulates its policy that suits the US.

The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage. I don’t care what the French think about Serbs; good or bad.

I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy.

The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL.

Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ Peggy

"Being a citizen of Serbia and living there DOES NOT make you a Serb."

So if I have French citizenship and live in France, I would not thereby be French?!? That's really strange thinking.

"Like I said before, many Serbian foes live in Serbia and have Serbian citizenships."

I do not live in KiM. And nearly the rest of the country is mono-cultural; so you're statement doesn't really apply.

"So stop pretending to be a Serb. Even if you are critical of your government as a Serb you would say something positive, at least once, about Serbs. I haven't noticed that yet. On the contrary, you don't seem to like Serbs very much."

I moved to Serbia to make my home here. In fact, I'm the only one in my family to choose this path. If I didn't love Serbs, I would not have moved here. I cannot say that Serbs are good in general because humans are evil from birth (including myself). But there are many fun, interesting Serbs. It has been a pleasant, if sometimes bumpy, experience.

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JS

pre 6 godina

@ sj

"The French, much like the British Government, not the Brits themselves, are delusional thinking they matter when they matter as much as little Serbia on the world stage."

Only as much, or more?

"I was born in the west and saw it slowly spiral from being leaders in the world in justice, human rights, fighting poverty, high standards of living to this level now – fighting poor nations and being proud of that fact. Causing death and misery to millions while passing it off as bring freedom and democracy."

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

"The west led in living standards, high wages and jobs. Today the standards are falling, wages stagnant for decades and unemployment in double digits while fiddling the books to make it look like it’s the 1960s like the US level of unemployment at 4.1% LOL."

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia.

"Just because you live in Serbia does not make you a Serb. You may be a citizen of Serbia but not a Serb. I don’t know what you are so indulge me and tell me what ethnic group you belong to other than Serb my little Albo."

I do not live in KiM. Other than Vojvodina, the rest of Serbia is mono-cultural (except for small pockets of Gypsies)...so what else could I be but Serb?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 1 June 2018 22:43)

I dont care where you live be it KiM, Vojvodina, Serbia proper or the US. Serbia has other ethnic groups such as Albos, Bosniaks, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Romanians so it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?

Death to millions? It isn't necessary to use hyperbole when you write about the faults of "the west."

So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well. I must agree its all hyperbole.

There has been a decline but not as dramatic as you make it out to be. The standard of living is still five to ten times higher in the States than in Serbia

Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages.

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JS

pre 6 godina

"...it’s not monocultural. So are you an ethnic Serb my little Albo friend?"

You seem to have a problem understanding three simple letters: Y-E-S. But the bigger problem is that you think ethnicity matters. You remind me of Seselj.

"So it near 500,000 in Syria alone then if we take a look at Iraq that is even higher not taking into account the constant violence there as well."

Radical Muslims attack democratic governments and themselves, the US military intervenes to help the many people caught in the violence, and then you turn around and blame the US for the violence. If you don't see the logical problem with your attempt to blame everything bad on the US, then I will never be able to help you.

"Once again your comparing apples with oranges. Cost of living in the US is much higher than in Serbia so its very stupid to convert your famous $12.50 an hour into dinars. By the way that US $12.5 is still classified as the working poor wages."

You cite the wage of a burger flipper and then say "that's a low wage." No duh its a low wage. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

In southern Serbia, taxi drivers earn 600-800 dinars per day. Working ten hours per day, that is $0.60-0.80/hour. With the cost of living being 40% less than in the States, that translates into $0.84-1.12/hour in American wages. That makes an American burger flipper ten times wealthier than a Serbian burger flipper. That is something to brag about, Seselj.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Well, in English, being an inhabitant of Serbia DOES make somebody a Serb. You might want to get better acquainted with the English language before writing :)
(icj1, 3 June 2018 01:40)

It must be Albo English because living in Serbia does not automatically make you a Serb since this name refers to an ethnic group plus there are other ethnic groups in Serbia such as Hungarians, Albos etc. Although they are not ethnic Serbs they are citizens of the Republic of Serbia.

If there no end to my having to educate you???????

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sj

pre 6 godina

(JS, 2 June 2018 06:34)

I mention 500,000 Syrians losing there lives and your off with the pixies about radical Muslims. The war was started by the US arming the opposition and radical Muslims mate. In Iraq the US attacked that country based on fake information made up by the US. In both Iraq and Syria the leadership did not nurture radical Islam. Both Iraq and Syria had secular governments. In Syria the Christians are with Assad because the alternative is US backed radical Muslims.

Monthly job creation figures released in the US are mostly low paid work at $7.50/$12.50 an hour. People on those wages must work two jobs just to keep their heads above water and they can’t afford medical insurance.

You cannot compare a burger flipper in the US and the same in Serbia because the cost of living are different. Rent is higher in the US than Serbia; the cost of groceries in the US are higher than in Serbia.

The salary for a primary teacher in Oklahoma is $33,000. They are so drastically underpaid they are forced to donate plasma, work multiple jobs, and go to food pantries to provide for their families. They live from pay check to pay check.

Now these teachers earn more than a burger flipper!!!!!!!
According to their pay scale they are much richer than a US paid burger flipper but due to cost of living being high they have problems living on that salary. See the connection??????

And if you’re a Serb than I am French.

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