84 percent of Serbians oppose NATO membership - poll

I too oppose Serbia joining Nato, and the EU. TO JE VELIKA ZLO!!!

@redon

Don't flatter yourself. Nobody is recruiting any of you nor would we want you in an ALLIANCE, except for maybe Slovenia!!!

I too am oppose Serbia joining NAZISM,Sorry I mean NATO (same organization).
I am not for Serbia joining EU ,but will not stop the EU from trying to buy us with their hand outs .Free money is always welcome .
If Serbia join the EU , it will be at Serbian terms , not Americans terms.
It is good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.

It is good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 23 March 2018 15:19) You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia. It is like Americans going to Mexico with out the beaches in comparison, so very cheap in Serbia like in Mexico. Serbs don't forget to visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUPGZmk5VBk beautiful Croatia I know you want to.

I think the real figure would be 99%. The people who want to be in NATO are either a) not serbs or b) sociopaths

Pollster can claim this result only if they managed to get the opinion of every single Serbian.

It is apparent that in Serbia journalist are not statistically savvy and cannot make difference between the sample to whom this question was directed and the entire population of Serbians.

The article also gives no explanation as to how the sample was chosen. Though, for Serbian nationalists, equating the entire number of Serbs with a sample of 1203 people should be rather concerning.

A typical example of ignorance.

NATO is a EU-phemism for NAZI.

How many Albanians/Croatians/Bosnians/Slovenians would oppose a membership in a Russian counterpart to NATO? I find this question much more meaningful.

... That did not work well for Them and the people and Nations who they destroyed are picking up the pieces and are trying to rebuild they shattered lives.

NATO is a obsolete organisation and theirs role as peace keeping alliance long has ended by NATO inveding countries and taking sides in civil wars. The NAZI Germany did the same.
(@News, 24 March 2018 09:18)

May I kindly ask you to enlighten us less fortunate mortals by mentioning the exact names of those countries that are 'picking up the pieses' - as you put it after, noticeably, your beloved Russia invaded but without taking side in civilian war. One tiny little example will suffice.

good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 23 March 2018 15:19) You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia. It is like Americans going to Mexico with out the beaches in comparison, so very cheap in Serbia like in Mexico. Serbs don't forget to visit [link] beautiful Croatia I know you want to.
(Lenard, 24 March 2018 19:53) # Comment

We have Croatian's living in Serbia , but visiting,not many . You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .
Majority of Serbs visit Greek beaches and enjoy the friendly serves from fellow brother ,Greece.
I haven't been to Mexico to see the Yanks and don't know how may go there .I have seen plenty of Yanks in Serbia ,Greece and Montenegro.

NATO was established by America after WW2 to stop the Spread of communist Russia and they primary role was to be a Peace keeping joint military co operation Force. The Corrupted well organized politicians in America ( Clintons ) had use for NATO to expand they border and to exploit they resources on which they wanted to build they so called New World order. That did not work well for Them and the people and Nations who they destroyed are picking up the pieces and are trying to rebuild they shattered lives.

NATO is a obsolete organisation and theirs role as peace keeping alliance long has ended by NATO inveding countries and taking sides in civil wars. The NAZI Germany did the same.

Well the bombing was against international law, without UN approval. Bombing is never the right thing, it always hits innocent civilians too, never mind how CNN, BBC or RT are trying to tell that only their military can bomb without killing any civilians.

But I would not say that Yugoslavia was bombed. It was the citizens of the former Yugoslavian Republic Serbia that was in the hand of criminal nationalists.

From the article.

About two thirds of citizens oppose any kind of cooperation between Serbia and NATO, while 26 percent of respondents, MOSTLY HIGHLY EDUCATED, SUPPORT IT.

—————————————

It is nice to see many of you not being embarrassed to publicly oppose it.

You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 25 March 2018 01:49)

Unemployment rate in 2017:
Serbia 14.4%
Croatia 11.5%

Reduction in unemployment rate in 2017 compared to 2016:
Serbia 0.9%
Croatia 1.6%

So, not only is Croatia better than Serbia as far as unemployment goes, but Croatia is also improving faster than Serbia.

We have Croatian's living in Serbia , but visiting,not many . You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .

(Sasa from near Jagodina, 25 March 2018


@Sasa

Actually you are wrong.


https://www.total-croatia-news.com/business/26733-100-000-job-vacancies-expected-in-second-quarter-of-2018

Croatia’s problem is not having enough employees in the locations where they are needed.

Many from the Slavonia region have found better paying jobs in other countries which is forcing employers in Croatia to raise wages and import workers.
There was an article just a few days ago which stated employers are going to the Ukraine for seasonal workers.

It is nice to see many of you not being embarrassed to publicly oppose it.
(Mark.W, 24 March 2018 14:57)
===========================
Just because someone is highly educated doesn't mean they have common sense. There are many book smart people out there who can't organize their lives.
We have a section in our university here which is only for the highly gifted students. A while go they were looking to employ someone whose job would be to organize these students, help them keep a timetable of just ordinary chores that the rest of us mere mortals wouldn't have any problems in organizing ourselves and keeping to. Simple things like making sure they don't forget their laptops to a lecture.

These people know books, not real life.

Can you enlighten us less fortunate and less versed in work with a moodometer, how did you manage to measure the 'well known mood of Serbians towards NATO' without a need to ask every single Serbian about it?!!! Is it because you say so?
(Tom L'Orizi, 26 March 2018 10:17)
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LOL! Statistics have been used for centuries Mr Rice for the exact purpose of measuring "moods" without the need to ask everyone. If you don't know that, you are beyond being enlightened. Sure they can be rigged but the support towards NATO in Serbia has consistently been low, for all polls taken so far. You belong in the same boat as icj1, or maybe you are the same person. Same nonsense mentality.

A typical example of ignorance.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37)
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Speaking about ignorance Mr Rice, I would suggest reading statistics for dummies. The mood towards NATO is well known in Serbia, no need to ask every single person.

So, not only is Croatia better than Serbia as far as unemployment goes, but Croatia is also improving faster than Serbia.
(icj1, 25 March 2018 17:27)

Yes, Croatia is moving faster than Serbia, but what I don’t understand is why have 260,000 Croats left Croatia in the last 3 years, especially since only in January 2018 it was mentioned in the Croat parliament that the minimum wage was KN131,500 or Є17,424 per year?

I cannot understand why under such excellent conditions they estimate that a further 50,000, mostly young and well qualified, are leaving in 2018? Surely the estimated 60,000 who will lose their jobs in 2018 due to shut downs will find plenty of those minimum paid jobs?

In the last 5 years how many industries have opened facilities in Croatia? Was it Continental, Siemens, Mei Ta, auto parts manufacturer or perhaps Schneider Electrics? No not one, but they all opened in Serbia.

Yep when you do the maths Croatia is leading in leaps and bounds, and the tooth fairy will leave you a dollar under your pillow tonight.

Serbia will never gain membership in the EU without first joining NATO.

A typical example of ignorance.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37)
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Speaking about ignorance Mr Rice, I would suggest reading statistics for dummies. The mood towards NATO is well known in Serbia, no need to ask every single person.
(Zoran, 25 March 2018 17:10)

Dear Zoran,

Can you enlighten us less fortunate and less versed in work with a moodometer, how did you manage to measure the 'well known mood of Serbians towards NATO' without a need to ask every single Serbian about it?!!! Is it because you say so?

A tipical example of ignorance. You better hold firmly Statistics for Dummies.

You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia.
(Lenard, 24 March 2018 19:53)
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You are correct Lenard, Croatians can't afford to go anywhere else. Serbia is cheap and Serbs can afford to travel. I see them all over Europe. Croatians are nowhere to be seen, except Serbia. It's a great place to visit and relatively safe too.

The article also gives no explanation as to how the sample was chosen.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37) #

It was a poll conducted across Serbia, if you want more detail why don't you contact B-92. The fact of the matter is that you portray to understand statistics and polls more than B-92 , an actual news station. The reality is the only think you know about statistics is the number of hairs up your arse.

My dearest almost favourite nearly friend sj,

You seem to have a wonderful time, again and again, investing German money in Serbia!

I am feeling rather jealous why you are not sharing the tooth fairy with all of us. We would aldo like to invest some German money in Serbia too. Don't be so selfish!

Before I forget, how's your 230 years old family doing in Australia?

Hope you live as long as them. You know how much German money you can invest in Serbia for that time?!! Nudge nudge.
(Tom L'Orizi, 27 March 2018 19:46)

I really thought you might be a challenge, but you’re not one sandwich short of a picnic basket but the basket is completely empty. Very sad indeed.

You can’t debate so you resort to this drivel LOL. Good one icj1. Only you could come up with this type of irrational nonsense.

I read this same story on this site 18 years ago.

... In the last 5 years how many industries have opened facilities in Croatia? Was it Continental, Siemens, Mei Ta, auto parts manufacturer or perhaps Schneider Electrics? No not one, but they all opened in Serbia.

Yep when you do the maths Croatia is leading in leaps and bounds, and the tooth fairy will leave you a dollar under your pillow tonight.
(sj, 27 March 2018 12:20)

My dearest almost favourite nearly friend sj,

You seem to have a wonderful time, again and again, investing German money in Serbia!

I am feeling rather jealous why you are not sharing the tooth fairy with all of us. We would aldo like to invest some German money in Serbia too. Don't be so selfish!

Before I forget, how's your 230 years old family doing in Australia?

Hope you live as long as them. You know how much German money you can invest in Serbia for that time?!! Nudge nudge.

It is good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 23 March 2018 15:19) You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia. It is like Americans going to Mexico with out the beaches in comparison, so very cheap in Serbia like in Mexico. Serbs don't forget to visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUPGZmk5VBk beautiful Croatia I know you want to.

Pollster can claim this result only if they managed to get the opinion of every single Serbian.

It is apparent that in Serbia journalist are not statistically savvy and cannot make difference between the sample to whom this question was directed and the entire population of Serbians.

The article also gives no explanation as to how the sample was chosen. Though, for Serbian nationalists, equating the entire number of Serbs with a sample of 1203 people should be rather concerning.

A typical example of ignorance.

I too am oppose Serbia joining NAZISM,Sorry I mean NATO (same organization).
I am not for Serbia joining EU ,but will not stop the EU from trying to buy us with their hand outs .Free money is always welcome .
If Serbia join the EU , it will be at Serbian terms , not Americans terms.
It is good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.

Well the bombing was against international law, without UN approval. Bombing is never the right thing, it always hits innocent civilians too, never mind how CNN, BBC or RT are trying to tell that only their military can bomb without killing any civilians.

But I would not say that Yugoslavia was bombed. It was the citizens of the former Yugoslavian Republic Serbia that was in the hand of criminal nationalists.

... That did not work well for Them and the people and Nations who they destroyed are picking up the pieces and are trying to rebuild they shattered lives.

NATO is a obsolete organisation and theirs role as peace keeping alliance long has ended by NATO inveding countries and taking sides in civil wars. The NAZI Germany did the same.
(@News, 24 March 2018 09:18)

May I kindly ask you to enlighten us less fortunate mortals by mentioning the exact names of those countries that are 'picking up the pieses' - as you put it after, noticeably, your beloved Russia invaded but without taking side in civilian war. One tiny little example will suffice.

I too oppose Serbia joining Nato, and the EU. TO JE VELIKA ZLO!!!

NATO is a EU-phemism for NAZI.

How many Albanians/Croatians/Bosnians/Slovenians would oppose a membership in a Russian counterpart to NATO? I find this question much more meaningful.

NATO was established by America after WW2 to stop the Spread of communist Russia and they primary role was to be a Peace keeping joint military co operation Force. The Corrupted well organized politicians in America ( Clintons ) had use for NATO to expand they border and to exploit they resources on which they wanted to build they so called New World order. That did not work well for Them and the people and Nations who they destroyed are picking up the pieces and are trying to rebuild they shattered lives.

NATO is a obsolete organisation and theirs role as peace keeping alliance long has ended by NATO inveding countries and taking sides in civil wars. The NAZI Germany did the same.

I think the real figure would be 99%. The people who want to be in NATO are either a) not serbs or b) sociopaths

good to see a lot of Chinese ,Turkish ,Iranian ,Russian ,Japanese ,South Korean tourist in Serbia.
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 23 March 2018 15:19) You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia. It is like Americans going to Mexico with out the beaches in comparison, so very cheap in Serbia like in Mexico. Serbs don't forget to visit [link] beautiful Croatia I know you want to.
(Lenard, 24 March 2018 19:53) # Comment

We have Croatian's living in Serbia , but visiting,not many . You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .
Majority of Serbs visit Greek beaches and enjoy the friendly serves from fellow brother ,Greece.
I haven't been to Mexico to see the Yanks and don't know how may go there .I have seen plenty of Yanks in Serbia ,Greece and Montenegro.

From the article.

About two thirds of citizens oppose any kind of cooperation between Serbia and NATO, while 26 percent of respondents, MOSTLY HIGHLY EDUCATED, SUPPORT IT.

—————————————

It is nice to see many of you not being embarrassed to publicly oppose it.

You forgot to mention Croatians the No 1 tourist to Serbia.
(Lenard, 24 March 2018 19:53)
--
You are correct Lenard, Croatians can't afford to go anywhere else. Serbia is cheap and Serbs can afford to travel. I see them all over Europe. Croatians are nowhere to be seen, except Serbia. It's a great place to visit and relatively safe too.

A typical example of ignorance.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37)
--
Speaking about ignorance Mr Rice, I would suggest reading statistics for dummies. The mood towards NATO is well known in Serbia, no need to ask every single person.
(Zoran, 25 March 2018 17:10)

Dear Zoran,

Can you enlighten us less fortunate and less versed in work with a moodometer, how did you manage to measure the 'well known mood of Serbians towards NATO' without a need to ask every single Serbian about it?!!! Is it because you say so?

A tipical example of ignorance. You better hold firmly Statistics for Dummies.

A typical example of ignorance.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37)
--
Speaking about ignorance Mr Rice, I would suggest reading statistics for dummies. The mood towards NATO is well known in Serbia, no need to ask every single person.

Can you enlighten us less fortunate and less versed in work with a moodometer, how did you manage to measure the 'well known mood of Serbians towards NATO' without a need to ask every single Serbian about it?!!! Is it because you say so?
(Tom L'Orizi, 26 March 2018 10:17)
--
LOL! Statistics have been used for centuries Mr Rice for the exact purpose of measuring "moods" without the need to ask everyone. If you don't know that, you are beyond being enlightened. Sure they can be rigged but the support towards NATO in Serbia has consistently been low, for all polls taken so far. You belong in the same boat as icj1, or maybe you are the same person. Same nonsense mentality.

@redon

Don't flatter yourself. Nobody is recruiting any of you nor would we want you in an ALLIANCE, except for maybe Slovenia!!!

Serbia will never gain membership in the EU without first joining NATO.

You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 25 March 2018 01:49)

Unemployment rate in 2017:
Serbia 14.4%
Croatia 11.5%

Reduction in unemployment rate in 2017 compared to 2016:
Serbia 0.9%
Croatia 1.6%

So, not only is Croatia better than Serbia as far as unemployment goes, but Croatia is also improving faster than Serbia.

... In the last 5 years how many industries have opened facilities in Croatia? Was it Continental, Siemens, Mei Ta, auto parts manufacturer or perhaps Schneider Electrics? No not one, but they all opened in Serbia.

Yep when you do the maths Croatia is leading in leaps and bounds, and the tooth fairy will leave you a dollar under your pillow tonight.
(sj, 27 March 2018 12:20)

My dearest almost favourite nearly friend sj,

You seem to have a wonderful time, again and again, investing German money in Serbia!

I am feeling rather jealous why you are not sharing the tooth fairy with all of us. We would aldo like to invest some German money in Serbia too. Don't be so selfish!

Before I forget, how's your 230 years old family doing in Australia?

Hope you live as long as them. You know how much German money you can invest in Serbia for that time?!! Nudge nudge.

The article also gives no explanation as to how the sample was chosen.
(Tom L'Orizi, 24 March 2018 20:37) #

It was a poll conducted across Serbia, if you want more detail why don't you contact B-92. The fact of the matter is that you portray to understand statistics and polls more than B-92 , an actual news station. The reality is the only think you know about statistics is the number of hairs up your arse.

So, not only is Croatia better than Serbia as far as unemployment goes, but Croatia is also improving faster than Serbia.
(icj1, 25 March 2018 17:27)

Yes, Croatia is moving faster than Serbia, but what I don’t understand is why have 260,000 Croats left Croatia in the last 3 years, especially since only in January 2018 it was mentioned in the Croat parliament that the minimum wage was KN131,500 or Є17,424 per year?

I cannot understand why under such excellent conditions they estimate that a further 50,000, mostly young and well qualified, are leaving in 2018? Surely the estimated 60,000 who will lose their jobs in 2018 due to shut downs will find plenty of those minimum paid jobs?

In the last 5 years how many industries have opened facilities in Croatia? Was it Continental, Siemens, Mei Ta, auto parts manufacturer or perhaps Schneider Electrics? No not one, but they all opened in Serbia.

Yep when you do the maths Croatia is leading in leaps and bounds, and the tooth fairy will leave you a dollar under your pillow tonight.

My dearest almost favourite nearly friend sj,

You seem to have a wonderful time, again and again, investing German money in Serbia!

I am feeling rather jealous why you are not sharing the tooth fairy with all of us. We would aldo like to invest some German money in Serbia too. Don't be so selfish!

Before I forget, how's your 230 years old family doing in Australia?

Hope you live as long as them. You know how much German money you can invest in Serbia for that time?!! Nudge nudge.
(Tom L'Orizi, 27 March 2018 19:46)

I really thought you might be a challenge, but you’re not one sandwich short of a picnic basket but the basket is completely empty. Very sad indeed.

You can’t debate so you resort to this drivel LOL. Good one icj1. Only you could come up with this type of irrational nonsense.

We have Croatian's living in Serbia , but visiting,not many . You need a job to visit Serbia and Croatian's have a very high unemployment problem that us getting worse .

(Sasa from near Jagodina, 25 March 2018


@Sasa

Actually you are wrong.


https://www.total-croatia-news.com/business/26733-100-000-job-vacancies-expected-in-second-quarter-of-2018

Croatia’s problem is not having enough employees in the locations where they are needed.

Many from the Slavonia region have found better paying jobs in other countries which is forcing employers in Croatia to raise wages and import workers.
There was an article just a few days ago which stated employers are going to the Ukraine for seasonal workers.

It is nice to see many of you not being embarrassed to publicly oppose it.
(Mark.W, 24 March 2018 14:57)
===========================
Just because someone is highly educated doesn't mean they have common sense. There are many book smart people out there who can't organize their lives.
We have a section in our university here which is only for the highly gifted students. A while go they were looking to employ someone whose job would be to organize these students, help them keep a timetable of just ordinary chores that the rest of us mere mortals wouldn't have any problems in organizing ourselves and keeping to. Simple things like making sure they don't forget their laptops to a lecture.

These people know books, not real life.

I read this same story on this site 18 years ago.