Nikolić quits Radicals

Bluster won't help repair the holes in SRS now, as it has in the past.

As soon as the primativism, fire and brimstone is turned upon fellow radicals all ideology is lost. The only thing that is left is fear of the Leader.

And Seselj needs to get something else straight - his party took money from Miskovic, as all others did, with the exception of LDP. How can this best be seen? The election campaign, SRS did not make a whisper of complaint about Miskovic and sadly the only party that did was LDP.

Nilolic 'Serbia has enormous problems that cannot be solved by waiting', whilst you are at it Toma you might want to tell this to Kostunica too.

It will be interesting to see the political realignment in Serbian politics. In principle Nikolic's idea is sound, if say he was to get a quarter of SRS votes in the future. But the idea of a right wing alliance in the future in government is fading. It would mean that Seselj and Nikolic would have to get together again with Kostunica and Ilic and that does not appear likely after this acrimony.

I think that Seselj destroyed his own chances by not compromising with Nikolic.

Princip

Quite seriously its hillarious that you would accuse Nikolic of being dictatorial, when we all know who is the dictator in that party.

This is indeed a tough time for the right in Serbia. And you won't find me crying about it. But I am hopeful that we can gain a constructive, less primative opposition with real ideas as how to solve the problems of Serbian citizens.

Nikolic did the right thing at the right time for Serbia.

a modern conservative party could contribute much more, than than "the old SRS".

Good bye, S(tari)RS :))

how on earth can Seselj defend Serb interests when he still got to answer for very serious crimes in the former Yugoslavia at the Hague tribunal.is this extremist the man to defend Serbia interests? recent history suggests otherwise.is extremists like him that brought Serbia to it's knees and now ranks in par with the poorest countries in Europe.

"Nikolić said that he could not imagine a government where his party, which still has no name, could be with the Democratic Party or G17 Plus, but that he did see the Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) and New Serbia (NS) as partners, because, he said, “right now there is nothing between us”. "

- Nikolic has lost the plot and clearly he is now clutching at straws in the realisation that he failed to listen to his party who did not want to sign SAA and as for Nikloc wanting to be nearer to DSS and NS why didnt he vote against SAA is he believes he is close to them?

This is a tough time for SRS but its clear Nikolic will not survive as he as tried to emulate Tadic in his executive directives (bordering on dicctatorial) dicision making for the rest of his party - may have worked for Tadic but for Nikolic such a poorly chosen move has eneded his poltical career - he knows it and so do the others who joined him.

The Serbian Radical Party has been sabotaged by the western Powers who have imprisoned it leader, Vojislav Seselj, for 7 years on such trivial charges that they would thrown out of any normal court in the western world. Seselj will be locked up until the west is sure of its control over Serbia. Seselj is a Political Prisoner.

Nikolic is vain and foolish to want to start a new political party. If he is so close to the DSS, then he should join them. Perhaps the DSS, NS and the Nikolic faction of the SRS should re-brand themselves as the KS (Konservative Stranka)?

Princip what SRS wanted had nothing to do with the SAA. It was not what Nikolic or SRS wanted, it was about what Seselj wanted. If you don't understand this you don't have a hope of understanding the nature of Serbian politics and the old fashioned tendency for autocratic leaders. Surely you are not blind.

By the way if what you said was true, lets put it to the test. How did Nikolic's faction vote on the SAA? How did SRS vote on the SAA?

Care to explain again how Nikolic believed one thing and SRS believed another.

This was about one man's ego and the desire to control. Unfortunately that man destroyed his party and with it the rights only realistic chance of gaining power within the next 5 years.

Let me ask you something else. How is the deputy leader of SRS elected. Is it through the party congress (where Nikolic was elected) or is it through the order of the divine Leader?

Remind me who is to blame here?

As I have repeatedly noted in other posts, Nikolic's shelf life as the acting Radical party leader expired some time ago. However, he does still attract the votes of a certain segment of the electorate that will not vote for a group under the control or influence of Seselj. Nikolic's departure is therefore good both for himself (renewing his viability as a candidate) and for the "right" as it provides a method for the expansion of the total voting base for Radicals and ex-Radicals to a group broader than that which will accept Seselj. The net effect is to make room for Vucic and/or Seselj (if he ever escapes the Inquisition) in the role of party leaders.

In the technical game that is proportional representation, a division of the Radicals will surely produce yet another grouping that is certain to exceed the 5% cutoff for parliamentary representation, thereby inexorably pushing both the SPS and the LDP beyond the point of no return as they slip irretrievably below that same cutoff margin. Do the math yourself to confirm...

Whether they are aware of the this mathematical advantage resulting from their actions or not, the Radicals' subdivision into two parties that will certainly govern together in coalition is a death-knell for the Tadic group which had been manipulating this computational game of parliamentary control up until now under the tutelage of U.S.-based "democracy consultants".

The fact that Russians have always been much better mathematicians than Americans leads me to speculate as to whether they might have suggested both the method and this ideal timing for the elimination of the SPS and LDP from Serbian parliamentary politics.

Having previously stated that the Radicals are finally beginning to grasp the practical techniques needed to assume and retain power, I guess the best closing line for these comments is... Q.E.D.

Best regards to all,

John Bosnitch
john.b@imcnews.com

PS: See you in Serbia later this month.

Pity, really. Say what you want about Nikolic, I think he almost single-handedly tried to transform the SRS into a fully legitimate national populist party. He could have done a lot to make the SRS the party of anti-corruption, anti-EU, anti-globalism.

He's free to form his own party, and I truly wish him well. I also don't think it would be too much of an exaggeration to find Napred Srbijo coalescing with Kostunica, Ilic, and other like-minded individuals.

We'll see where the electorate follows. If it follows Nikolic, the SRS may very well descend into a fringe group on the Far Right.

Regardless, ZES is now the most powerful group in Serbia.

Every country needs the Left, the Center and the Right.
But Mr. Seseljs vision of Right is wrong, destructive and pointless. The electorate currently supporting the Radical Party are doing so not because they necessary share all of his ideas but simply due to lack of any other alternative.
Mr. Nikolic’s move is long overdue.
A moderate, constructive Right in Serbia, once fully established, will win the election and be able to form a STABLE government in the future.
One that will be able to articulate the will of the people while not being confrontational for a sake of it.
Being Serb patriot (not a nationalist) , being a responsible EU citizen , being aware of the importance of close links with Russia, while taking a keen interest in compatriots in neighboring countries are not mutually exclusive.
On contrary – those things DO compliment each other.
In summary – those who are already writing the obituary for the Right in Serbia are doing it prematurely.
The problem is that the EU will not help (AGAIN!?) and all this will be much more painful and slower than necessary.
To paraphrase one late US president : “…Mr. Nikolic, please, tear that Wall down…”

Bganon,

Nikolic did try to dictate his choice of supporting SAA on the rest of his party - unfortunetly for him he did not have a full appreciation of what his party wanted with regards SAA. Especially after illegal moves by certain EU countries with it must be added consent of the EU hierachy of the likes of Solano and Barroso since they abandonded the central EU concept of joint single forign policy. Nikolic did not consult nor have support of the rest of his party members bar the other 10 who have blindly followed him - he did not comprehend that he does not have the same exectutive powers as that of Tadic to dictate all decisions.

Hope this clarifies my point!

How is it possible that a prisoner jailed in the Hague still rules a political party in Serbia?
There's something wrong in all this story and the Dutch prison guards should lock Seselj in a dark hole and let him out just to attend the tribunal sessions!!

And the article concludes: "Asked what his relationship with Šešelj would be once he returned from the Hague, the Forward Serbia leader said that he expected he would have a few choice words for him in parliament"

In 25 years or so, when Seselj migh get out of prison, hopefully it will be a very different situation in Serbian parlament.

Although I was never a Seselj's supporter, I must admit I agree with every point he makes in his letter.
How can any Serb argue otherwise?
Serbs have NO alternative but to join forces with Russia, if they want to save anything of their heritage. Russia accepts us as we are and that should be decisive.Everything else is humiliation and slavery
The usual rubbish such as "we have to look to the future" ( mostly preached by these numerous foreign ambassadors who have become some sort of our Gurues) is to be expected, but the undeniable fact is that Serbs are being demanded to surrender their honor, after having lost just about everything else. Aren't we sick of this Euro-masochism?
Nikolic might be an honourable politician, but it is he, who is out of touch with the Serbian reality, which is not only ugly but promises to become much worse.
He's is about to be granted the title of a"reformer", "moderate" or/and "courageous" by our Euro-Nato servile media, but- so what else is new?.( By now everybody knows that whenever any of Serbian politicians abandons the trenches of the battleline, the only thing he risks is to be knighted by the English Queen.)
To borrow expression from the serbian political vernacular, Nikolic is simply "pozuteo".

What can you say about a man like him,even from so called prison he is asking his colleges not to forget the radical teaching which is his teaching to keep it a live.Basically ignoring his very much "LOVED" country's interest(Serbia)what a leader, i am sure serbia "LOVES" you to,YEAH.

Bravo Toma, this hate distributers do not deserve you, Good Luck

I also have a few select words for the honorable Mr. Seselj, but something tells me that pro-democracy outlet b-92 would never print them. so i shall have to leave it to my highly-esteemed fellow posters to imagine them. they are very, very special words, fit for a NICE guy like seselj.

roberto

the headline must read in the meantime:

Nikolic quitted Radicals :))

I am convinced, Nikolic can achieve more for Serbia with only 10 percent, than Seselj ever did with the 30 - 40 percent of Serbian votes.

Peggy instead of looking at the fact you prefer to see what your 'enemy' believes and then oppose it.

Instead of opposing others how about using your own brain to decide whether Nikolic or Seselj are right on this. Look at Seselj's past record and then look at Nikolic's. I think its obvious who is the more principled.

Looking at how many Albanians are supporting Nikolic now tells me that Nikolic is wrong.
As usual bganon has chosen to be in the same group with the Albanians. Nikolic was not bganon's cup of tea before but now he/she is supporting him. What a shocker. All he had to do was abandon Serbian interests and he's alright.

This confirms without a doubt that Tadic is all wrong to lead Serbia and Seselj supporters have it right.

Miri, how do you know Seselj will be in Hague for the next 25 years? Do share your information sources with us.

I do fear that too much time has passed and it doesn't matter who is running the country now it's too late for Serbia. Tadic has missed all the opportunities to stop UDI taking hold in Kosovo. All he ever did was sit back and let it happen. I haven't even heard him complain about medicine shipments being stopped at the border.

Well done Tadic and your loyal supporters. You have cost Serbia dearly and you won't be forgotten.

How is it possible that a prisoner jailed in the Hague still rules a political party in Serbia?
There's something wrong in all this story and the Dutch prison guards should lock Seselj in a dark hole and let him out just to attend the tribunal sessions!!

Nikolic did the right thing at the right time for Serbia.

a modern conservative party could contribute much more, than than "the old SRS".

Good bye, S(tari)RS :))

Bluster won't help repair the holes in SRS now, as it has in the past.

As soon as the primativism, fire and brimstone is turned upon fellow radicals all ideology is lost. The only thing that is left is fear of the Leader.

And Seselj needs to get something else straight - his party took money from Miskovic, as all others did, with the exception of LDP. How can this best be seen? The election campaign, SRS did not make a whisper of complaint about Miskovic and sadly the only party that did was LDP.

Nilolic 'Serbia has enormous problems that cannot be solved by waiting', whilst you are at it Toma you might want to tell this to Kostunica too.

It will be interesting to see the political realignment in Serbian politics. In principle Nikolic's idea is sound, if say he was to get a quarter of SRS votes in the future. But the idea of a right wing alliance in the future in government is fading. It would mean that Seselj and Nikolic would have to get together again with Kostunica and Ilic and that does not appear likely after this acrimony.

I think that Seselj destroyed his own chances by not compromising with Nikolic.

how on earth can Seselj defend Serb interests when he still got to answer for very serious crimes in the former Yugoslavia at the Hague tribunal.is this extremist the man to defend Serbia interests? recent history suggests otherwise.is extremists like him that brought Serbia to it's knees and now ranks in par with the poorest countries in Europe.

What can you say about a man like him,even from so called prison he is asking his colleges not to forget the radical teaching which is his teaching to keep it a live.Basically ignoring his very much "LOVED" country's interest(Serbia)what a leader, i am sure serbia "LOVES" you to,YEAH.

Every country needs the Left, the Center and the Right.
But Mr. Seseljs vision of Right is wrong, destructive and pointless. The electorate currently supporting the Radical Party are doing so not because they necessary share all of his ideas but simply due to lack of any other alternative.
Mr. Nikolic’s move is long overdue.
A moderate, constructive Right in Serbia, once fully established, will win the election and be able to form a STABLE government in the future.
One that will be able to articulate the will of the people while not being confrontational for a sake of it.
Being Serb patriot (not a nationalist) , being a responsible EU citizen , being aware of the importance of close links with Russia, while taking a keen interest in compatriots in neighboring countries are not mutually exclusive.
On contrary – those things DO compliment each other.
In summary – those who are already writing the obituary for the Right in Serbia are doing it prematurely.
The problem is that the EU will not help (AGAIN!?) and all this will be much more painful and slower than necessary.
To paraphrase one late US president : “…Mr. Nikolic, please, tear that Wall down…”

Princip

Quite seriously its hillarious that you would accuse Nikolic of being dictatorial, when we all know who is the dictator in that party.

This is indeed a tough time for the right in Serbia. And you won't find me crying about it. But I am hopeful that we can gain a constructive, less primative opposition with real ideas as how to solve the problems of Serbian citizens.

And the article concludes: "Asked what his relationship with Šešelj would be once he returned from the Hague, the Forward Serbia leader said that he expected he would have a few choice words for him in parliament"

In 25 years or so, when Seselj migh get out of prison, hopefully it will be a very different situation in Serbian parlament.

Bravo Toma, this hate distributers do not deserve you, Good Luck

Pity, really. Say what you want about Nikolic, I think he almost single-handedly tried to transform the SRS into a fully legitimate national populist party. He could have done a lot to make the SRS the party of anti-corruption, anti-EU, anti-globalism.

He's free to form his own party, and I truly wish him well. I also don't think it would be too much of an exaggeration to find Napred Srbijo coalescing with Kostunica, Ilic, and other like-minded individuals.

We'll see where the electorate follows. If it follows Nikolic, the SRS may very well descend into a fringe group on the Far Right.

Regardless, ZES is now the most powerful group in Serbia.

Princip what SRS wanted had nothing to do with the SAA. It was not what Nikolic or SRS wanted, it was about what Seselj wanted. If you don't understand this you don't have a hope of understanding the nature of Serbian politics and the old fashioned tendency for autocratic leaders. Surely you are not blind.

By the way if what you said was true, lets put it to the test. How did Nikolic's faction vote on the SAA? How did SRS vote on the SAA?

Care to explain again how Nikolic believed one thing and SRS believed another.

This was about one man's ego and the desire to control. Unfortunately that man destroyed his party and with it the rights only realistic chance of gaining power within the next 5 years.

Let me ask you something else. How is the deputy leader of SRS elected. Is it through the party congress (where Nikolic was elected) or is it through the order of the divine Leader?

Remind me who is to blame here?

"Nikolić said that he could not imagine a government where his party, which still has no name, could be with the Democratic Party or G17 Plus, but that he did see the Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) and New Serbia (NS) as partners, because, he said, “right now there is nothing between us”. "

- Nikolic has lost the plot and clearly he is now clutching at straws in the realisation that he failed to listen to his party who did not want to sign SAA and as for Nikloc wanting to be nearer to DSS and NS why didnt he vote against SAA is he believes he is close to them?

This is a tough time for SRS but its clear Nikolic will not survive as he as tried to emulate Tadic in his executive directives (bordering on dicctatorial) dicision making for the rest of his party - may have worked for Tadic but for Nikolic such a poorly chosen move has eneded his poltical career - he knows it and so do the others who joined him.

The Serbian Radical Party has been sabotaged by the western Powers who have imprisoned it leader, Vojislav Seselj, for 7 years on such trivial charges that they would thrown out of any normal court in the western world. Seselj will be locked up until the west is sure of its control over Serbia. Seselj is a Political Prisoner.

Nikolic is vain and foolish to want to start a new political party. If he is so close to the DSS, then he should join them. Perhaps the DSS, NS and the Nikolic faction of the SRS should re-brand themselves as the KS (Konservative Stranka)?

As I have repeatedly noted in other posts, Nikolic's shelf life as the acting Radical party leader expired some time ago. However, he does still attract the votes of a certain segment of the electorate that will not vote for a group under the control or influence of Seselj. Nikolic's departure is therefore good both for himself (renewing his viability as a candidate) and for the "right" as it provides a method for the expansion of the total voting base for Radicals and ex-Radicals to a group broader than that which will accept Seselj. The net effect is to make room for Vucic and/or Seselj (if he ever escapes the Inquisition) in the role of party leaders.

In the technical game that is proportional representation, a division of the Radicals will surely produce yet another grouping that is certain to exceed the 5% cutoff for parliamentary representation, thereby inexorably pushing both the SPS and the LDP beyond the point of no return as they slip irretrievably below that same cutoff margin. Do the math yourself to confirm...

Whether they are aware of the this mathematical advantage resulting from their actions or not, the Radicals' subdivision into two parties that will certainly govern together in coalition is a death-knell for the Tadic group which had been manipulating this computational game of parliamentary control up until now under the tutelage of U.S.-based "democracy consultants".

The fact that Russians have always been much better mathematicians than Americans leads me to speculate as to whether they might have suggested both the method and this ideal timing for the elimination of the SPS and LDP from Serbian parliamentary politics.

Having previously stated that the Radicals are finally beginning to grasp the practical techniques needed to assume and retain power, I guess the best closing line for these comments is... Q.E.D.

Best regards to all,

John Bosnitch
john.b@imcnews.com

PS: See you in Serbia later this month.

Bganon,

Nikolic did try to dictate his choice of supporting SAA on the rest of his party - unfortunetly for him he did not have a full appreciation of what his party wanted with regards SAA. Especially after illegal moves by certain EU countries with it must be added consent of the EU hierachy of the likes of Solano and Barroso since they abandonded the central EU concept of joint single forign policy. Nikolic did not consult nor have support of the rest of his party members bar the other 10 who have blindly followed him - he did not comprehend that he does not have the same exectutive powers as that of Tadic to dictate all decisions.

Hope this clarifies my point!

Although I was never a Seselj's supporter, I must admit I agree with every point he makes in his letter.
How can any Serb argue otherwise?
Serbs have NO alternative but to join forces with Russia, if they want to save anything of their heritage. Russia accepts us as we are and that should be decisive.Everything else is humiliation and slavery
The usual rubbish such as "we have to look to the future" ( mostly preached by these numerous foreign ambassadors who have become some sort of our Gurues) is to be expected, but the undeniable fact is that Serbs are being demanded to surrender their honor, after having lost just about everything else. Aren't we sick of this Euro-masochism?
Nikolic might be an honourable politician, but it is he, who is out of touch with the Serbian reality, which is not only ugly but promises to become much worse.
He's is about to be granted the title of a"reformer", "moderate" or/and "courageous" by our Euro-Nato servile media, but- so what else is new?.( By now everybody knows that whenever any of Serbian politicians abandons the trenches of the battleline, the only thing he risks is to be knighted by the English Queen.)
To borrow expression from the serbian political vernacular, Nikolic is simply "pozuteo".

I also have a few select words for the honorable Mr. Seselj, but something tells me that pro-democracy outlet b-92 would never print them. so i shall have to leave it to my highly-esteemed fellow posters to imagine them. they are very, very special words, fit for a NICE guy like seselj.

roberto

the headline must read in the meantime:

Nikolic quitted Radicals :))

I am convinced, Nikolic can achieve more for Serbia with only 10 percent, than Seselj ever did with the 30 - 40 percent of Serbian votes.

Looking at how many Albanians are supporting Nikolic now tells me that Nikolic is wrong.
As usual bganon has chosen to be in the same group with the Albanians. Nikolic was not bganon's cup of tea before but now he/she is supporting him. What a shocker. All he had to do was abandon Serbian interests and he's alright.

This confirms without a doubt that Tadic is all wrong to lead Serbia and Seselj supporters have it right.

Miri, how do you know Seselj will be in Hague for the next 25 years? Do share your information sources with us.

I do fear that too much time has passed and it doesn't matter who is running the country now it's too late for Serbia. Tadic has missed all the opportunities to stop UDI taking hold in Kosovo. All he ever did was sit back and let it happen. I haven't even heard him complain about medicine shipments being stopped at the border.

Well done Tadic and your loyal supporters. You have cost Serbia dearly and you won't be forgotten.

Peggy instead of looking at the fact you prefer to see what your 'enemy' believes and then oppose it.

Instead of opposing others how about using your own brain to decide whether Nikolic or Seselj are right on this. Look at Seselj's past record and then look at Nikolic's. I think its obvious who is the more principled.